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ThomasC
27-06-2022, 08:28 PM
Not necessary.
The problem with pride is that it's an excuse for SOME gay people to dress up like sluts and try get laid.... Too much pretentious bull**** and queens. No thank you
Crimson Dynamo
27-06-2022, 08:29 PM
Disgusting
Not necessary.
The problem with pride is that it's an excuse for SOME gay people to dress up like sluts and try get laid.... Too much pretentious bull**** and queens. No thank youIt's actually the gay people I feel sorry for because these are just giving the community a bad name.
ThomasC
27-06-2022, 08:31 PM
It's actually the gay people I feel sorry for because these are just giving the community a bad name.
Well yeah you can't tar everyone with the same brush.
I don't think it's necessary...does it bother me, nah not really. It's a willy or a fanny.... We all have one or the other.
AnnieK
27-06-2022, 08:32 PM
I think naked bike riding has become a thing recently. I was driving back from work recently and say a couple on a tandem naked.....it was naked bike riding day or something :laugh:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/cyclists-take-part-naked-bike-4323642
ThomasC
27-06-2022, 08:34 PM
I don't think children seeing it is the problem....
But it's just not really necessary.
It's actually illegal. It's indecent exposure.
What a knob head
1541177605822578694
ThomasC
27-06-2022, 08:50 PM
What a knob head
1541177605822578694
:joker::joker:
It's actually illegal. It's indecent exposure.
Cops were probably dancing along side them.
GoldHeart
27-06-2022, 10:00 PM
I don't think children seeing it is the problem....
But it's just not really necessary.
Well children SHOULDN'T really be seeing naked adults should they ,as a matter of fact other adults don't want to see it either. And it is indecent exposure.
This ISN'T a nudist beach ,so why are they doing this in front of families etc ??. Typical selfish idiots wanting attention.
ThomasC
27-06-2022, 10:10 PM
Well children SHOULDN'T really be seeing naked adults should they ,as a matter of fact other adults don't want to see it either. And it is indecent exposure.
This ISN'T a nudist beach ,so why are they doing this in front of families etc ??. Typical selfish idiots wanting attention.
No one really wants to see. It's just a few dangly bits though, children see worse. It's not like they're having sex,,,they're just riding some bikes.
Oliver_W
27-06-2022, 10:11 PM
When there's nothing left to fight for, the only reason Pride still has to exist is to make money for the organisera.
ThomasC
27-06-2022, 10:11 PM
As for the willy penetrating the fanny, yeah that's just not acceptable
ThomasC
27-06-2022, 10:12 PM
When there's nothing left to fight for, the only reason Pride still has to exist is to make money for the organisera.
Well there is but some just take the piss
GoldHeart
27-06-2022, 10:41 PM
No one really wants to see. It's just a few dangly bits though, children see worse. It's not like they're having sex,,,they're just riding some bikes.
What about the naked weirdo in a bugs bunny mask, standing with I assume his bits out .
Tbh, and this is nothing against gay people at all, but had this been the behaviour of straight people flashing their bits in front of kids, it would be first story on the 10 O'Clock news.
It's defended in the name of 'pride' though. All logic and common sense is on a pretty steep downward spiral in the current climate.
Tbh, and this is nothing against gay people at all, but had this been the behaviour of straight people flashing their bits in front of kids, it would be first story on the 10 O'Clock news.
It's defended in the name of 'pride' though. All logic and common sense is on a pretty steep downward spiral in the current climate.
I agree 100 percent with this swan. There is no defence for these perverts actions.
Cherie
28-06-2022, 06:31 AM
Tbh, and this is nothing against gay people at all, but had this been the behaviour of straight people flashing their bits in front of kids, it would be first story on the 10 O'Clock news.
It's defended in the name of 'pride' though. All logic and common sense is on a pretty steep downward spiral in the current climate.
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ThomasC
28-06-2022, 08:47 AM
What about the naked weirdo in a bugs bunny mask, standing with I assume his bits out .
Yeah it's not necessary and no one really wants to see it apart from a minority I would imagine.
Tbh, and this is nothing against gay people at all, but had this been the behaviour of straight people flashing their bits in front of kids, it would be first story on the 10 O'Clock news.
It's defended in the name of 'pride' though. All logic and common sense is on a pretty steep downward spiral in the current climate.
I don't really agree. It would have been put down to nataurism probably and exhibitionists
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 08:53 AM
It's not about getting naked in front of kids....that's not the objective.
Nataurism is a way of life.... Can actually help with body confidence.
Do I find it necessary? No.... Do I find it appropriate?.... hmmmm, not really but I'm conflicted.... Is it damaging? Depends to the degree, but I don't really think so...
Most just don't want to see it though.
Big difference to just randomly deciding to take your clothes off though with the intent to cause alarm and distress.
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 08:57 AM
Tbh, and this is nothing against gay people at all, but had this been the behaviour of straight people flashing their bits in front of kids, it would be first story on the 10 O'Clock news.
It's defended in the name of 'pride' though. All logic and common sense is on a pretty steep downward spiral in the current climate.
I think what is defended is their way of life with nataurism being their way of life. I think that's how it fits into the pride category. In the sense of being able to be them and try to remove barriers of adversity
I spent some time with some hippies in Australia. I stayed at her house in a teepee in her garden whilst I was picking fruit.....they'd all painted this teepee on one of their naked retreats....bit mad, but lovely lady....it's a way of life for them
I think what is defended is their way of life with nataurism being their way of life. I think that's how it fits into the pride category. In the sense of being able to be them and try to remove barriers of adversity
I spent some time with some hippies in Australia. I stayed at her house in a teepee in her garden whilst I was picking fruit.....they'd all painted this teepee on one of their naked retreats....bit mad, but lovely lady....it's a way of life for them
Do you not agree that it's becoming over sexualised in what is promoted as being a 'family friendly environment' though?
It's hard to remember what we'd think as kids being adults now, but im sure seeing a man in a bunny mask walking down the street with his knob out would just frighten kids. It's becoming less about liberation and 'pride' and more about 'sticking it to the man' imo. And the problem is any criticism for the most part is met with cries of homophobia, which isn't the case at all.
Cherie
28-06-2022, 10:08 AM
As for the willy penetrating the fanny, yeah that's just not acceptable
Not sure that is a vagina? it is pride after all...:laugh:
Niamh.
28-06-2022, 10:09 AM
Not sure that is a vagina? it is pride after all...:laugh:
Looks like it's supposed to be
user104658
28-06-2022, 10:13 AM
It's being entirely hijacked, and many of the people who will ultimately be worst affected by this hijacking are giving their blessing - often on the sidelines clapping feverishly - in the name of unquestioning inclusion. Because of the historical context, I do understand why many people find it challenging to draw a line, but it's sad and ultimately worrying. The bubble will burst.
The authorities that the public pay for are encouraging this by not dealing with it.
It should be dealt with in the same way they'd deal with a streaker at a sporting event. The streaker is chased until caught and taken away.
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 10:38 AM
Do you not agree that it's becoming over sexualised in what is promoted as being a 'family friendly environment' though?
It's hard to remember what we'd think as kids being adults now, but im sure seeing a man in a bunny mask walking down the street with his knob out would just frighten kids. It's becoming less about liberation and 'pride' and more about 'sticking it to the man' imo. And the problem is any criticism for the most part is met with cries of homophobia, which isn't the case at all.
Yeah I can't disagree.
The actual meaning of pride is lost, like I say I think it's an excuse for some to just wear outrageous outfits, often for attention and to try get laid. They couldn't care less about the actual meaning of it...it's just a big shag fest party
arista
28-06-2022, 10:40 AM
Yes Alf
this Pride should say NO Children,
The Slim Reaper
28-06-2022, 10:41 AM
I thought Alf had made a thread about his favourite U2 song :hehe:
Niamh.
28-06-2022, 10:43 AM
Yeah I can't disagree.
The actual meaning of pride is lost, like I say I think it's an excuse for some to just wear outrageous outfits, often for attention and to try get laid. They couldn't care less about the actual meaning of it...it's just a big shag fest party
That's quite sad isn't it?
Yeah I can't disagree.
The actual meaning of pride is lost, like I say I think it's an excuse for some to just wear outrageous outfits, often for attention and to try get laid. They couldn't care less about the actual meaning of it...it's just a big shag fest party
And the thing is, there is nothing wrong with all the above, as long as it's done away from kids and not on public streets, there'd be no issue. But when that kind of thing is promoted as family friendly, and kids are being exposed to sex, suggestiveness (in a very real form) that's when Pride starts to lose all credibility imo. You have to ask what the ultimate goal is now, what is Pride trying to achieve?!
Oliver_W
28-06-2022, 10:51 AM
There are some real creeps who actually want to encourage "kink"' at supposedly family friendly Pride events...
Cherie
28-06-2022, 11:01 AM
Yes Alf
this Pride should say NO Children,
But lots of gay couples have children so why should they be excluded
arista
28-06-2022, 11:05 AM
But lots of gay couples have children so why should they be excluded
Yes but it is Nowdays Adults Only
They are Sluts in Parade
The Children,
can stay with someone who is not
going
Niamh.
28-06-2022, 11:07 AM
Yes but it is Nowdays Adults Only
They are Sluts in Parade
The Children,
can stay with someone who is not
going
You can't have an adults only rule for something that goes through Public main streets and cities
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 11:53 AM
That's quite sad isn't it?
Yes and no. If you're out to have fun then I see no problem as long as it's not hurting anyone else. I imagine pride means more to older generations who have had to fight more for equality. The meaning of it is often lost. The real meaning is an acceptance and to be able to live without persecution for loving someone of the same sex.
And the thing is, there is nothing wrong with all the above, as long as it's done away from kids and not on public streets, there'd be no issue. But when that kind of thing is promoted as family friendly, and kids are being exposed to sex, suggestiveness (in a very real form) that's when Pride starts to lose all credibility imo. You have to ask what the ultimate goal is now, what is Pride trying to achieve?!
Suggestive sex and nudism are completely different imo...but I don't think either belong in pride marches or pride events.
As for children attending, of course they should. This is where real change happens. Out with the old and in with the new. Newer generations should be taught to be open minded and treat people with respect. It's older generations who are often behind the times and homophobia is steeped in beliefs passed on through parents and generations.....and religion.
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 11:55 AM
Yes but it is Nowdays Adults Only
They are Sluts in Parade
The Children,
can stay with someone who is not
going
Do you ever post something that isn't robotic nonsense and has some content to it? I like you, but you don't half talk some bollox.
arista
28-06-2022, 11:57 AM
You can't have an adults only rule for something that goes through Public main streets and cities
Things change all the time,
If I was in charge of a City
I would put up signs telling all children to return home
Gay Sluts on the Street
is not suitable for under 16 year olds
arista
28-06-2022, 11:59 AM
Do you ever post something that isn't robotic nonsense and has some content to it? I like you, but you don't half talk some bollox.
I like You TC
But under
16 year olds do not need Gay Sluts Performing
in front of them
Sign Of The Times
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 12:00 PM
Things change all the time,
If I was in charge of a City
I would put up signs telling all children to return home
Gay Sluts on the Street
is not suitable for under 16 year olds
Thank god you're not in charge then.
I can be a slut. Nothing wrong with being a slut.
I love the dick and absolutely nothing wrong with that.... The problem comes in when you dress too provocative
arista
28-06-2022, 12:02 PM
Thank god you're not in charge then.
I can be a slut. Nothing wrong with being a slut.
I love the dick and absolutely nothing wrong with that.... The problem comes in when you dress too provocative
Sure Shake it all about
Not a problem
you are an Adult,
Oliver_W
28-06-2022, 12:10 PM
Thank god you're not in charge then.
I can be a slut. Nothing wrong with being a slut.
I love the dick and absolutely nothing wrong with that.... The problem comes in when you dress too provocative
No-one needs to know it though, and it definitely doesn't need to be flaunted at events which are nominally family friendly.
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 12:15 PM
No-one needs to know it though, and it definitely doesn't need to be flaunted at events which are nominally family friendly.
Yes they do need to know it to a degree as it helps getting laid.l and it's an atmosphere where a lot of gay men will be.
Show a bit of leg off...I'm partial to some short shorts and a nice tan as it does my complexion wonders.
Like I say, it depends how provocative..... Would I wear a jockstrap or a gimp mask *shudders*, no I would not and I don't think it's acceptable....if that's your thing then save it for the bedroom
Niamh.
28-06-2022, 12:15 PM
Yes and no. If you're out to have fun then I see no problem as long as it's not hurting anyone else. I imagine pride means more to older generations who have had to fight more for equality. The meaning of it is often lost. The real meaning is an acceptance and to be able to live without persecution for loving someone of the same sex.
Suggestive sex and nudism are completely different imo...but I don't think either belong in pride marches or pride events.
As for children attending, of course they should. This is where real change happens. Out with the old and in with the new. Newer generations should be taught to be open minded and treat people with respect. It's older generations who are often behind the times and homophobia is steeped in beliefs passed on through parents and generations.....and religion.
Yep agree with all that
Oliver_W
28-06-2022, 12:45 PM
Yes they do need to know it to a degree as it helps getting laid.l and it's an atmosphere where a lot of gay men will be.
Show a bit of leg off...I'm partial to some short shorts and a nice tan as it does my complexion wonders.
Like I say, it depends how provocative..... Would I wear a jockstrap or a gimp mask *shudders*, no I would not and I don't think it's acceptable....if that's your thing then save it for the bedroom
Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony :joker:
There are simply no real battles left to be won, so of course it's meaningless now. The occasional random homophobe is more likely to face backlash than any gay guy, and acceptance isn't going to be won by the freakshow Pride has become.
Niamh.
28-06-2022, 12:48 PM
Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony :joker:
There are simply no real battles left to be won, so of course it's meaningless now. The occasional random homophobe is more likely to face backlash than any gay guy, and acceptance isn't going to be won by the freakshow Pride has become.
It isn't meaningless though or shouldn't be, it should be a celebration of all that has been achieved and a reminder of those who fought hard for gay rights. Unfortunately all this kind of stuff actually damages that legacy rather than celebrates it imo
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 12:51 PM
Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony :joker:
There are simply no real battles left to be won, so of course it's meaningless now. The occasional random homophobe is more likely to face backlash than any gay guy, and acceptance isn't going to be won by the freakshow Pride has become.
No it's not the only purpose, but I think for quite a lot it is.
Ohh, there's loads of battles to be won....is pride the answer? Yes part of it regardless of people's personal reasons for attending. It highlights that's it's OK who you love, it's OK to be LGBT.
It's more than our message, it's an international message. You can still be imprisoned for being gay, you can still be stones to death forr being gay, you can still be viciously assaulted and verbally abused for it, you can still be bullied for being gay etc so to say there are no real battles left to be won is astonishingly ignorant!... It's not just the issues in this country, but fighting for acceptance globally that certain behaviours, views, beliefs are wrong.
Crimson Dynamo
28-06-2022, 12:52 PM
Give me an Orange Walk any day
https://eurofree3.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/clockworkorangemen.gif
user104658
28-06-2022, 12:54 PM
Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony :joker:
Oh it's absolutely been HEAVILY commercialised into a money-making machine... but we're three decades into neoliberal capitalism so the question of "what isn't??" comes to mind there.
user104658
28-06-2022, 12:55 PM
Give me an Orange Walk any day
https://eurofree3.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/clockworkorangemen.gif
Plenty of old men with their cocks out at those too, let's face it.
Niamh.
28-06-2022, 12:59 PM
Give me an Orange Walk any day
https://eurofree3.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/clockworkorangemen.gif
https://media0.giphy.com/media/4baoNZ5Qo8dX2/200.gif
Crimson Dynamo
28-06-2022, 01:02 PM
:joker:
Oliver_W
28-06-2022, 01:03 PM
I guess Pride would be more constructive if held in the hellholes that need to catch up with the modern world. Holding the parades over here does nothing for the gays being thrown off roofs or, as you say, being imprisoned, or having their genitals removed like in Iran...
Funny thing is, all these hell holes and backward thinking nations that still persecute the gay communities also have people fleeing from them and are welcomed with open arms into the UK by the uks gay activists.
user104658
28-06-2022, 01:09 PM
I guess Pride would be more constructive if held in the hellholes that need to catch up with the modern world. Holding the parades over here does nothing for the gays being thrown off roofs or, as you say, being imprisoned, or having their genitals removed like in Iran...
There are unfortunately places in the world where it would still be an absolute bloodbath (parts of the Middle East and Africa). There are however some places still in the "middle" that I think are still where the UK/US etc were decades ago, good example would be a lot of eastern European EU members where homosexuality is now legally accepted (because of compliance with various EU laws) but still not widely accepted socially in any overt sense.
user104658
28-06-2022, 01:13 PM
Funny thing is, all these hell holes and backward thinking nations that still persecute the gay communities also have people fleeing from them and are welcomed with open arms into the UK by the uks gay activists.
To be fair Parmy many of the people fleeing those countries and seeking refuge ARE the gay communities of those countries, as they're at serious risk of persecution (or injury, or death). There are sadly places in the world where the violence against the LGBT community is still primarily literal violence, rather than mean tweets.
ThomasC
28-06-2022, 01:20 PM
Funny thing is, all these hell holes and backward thinking nations that still persecute the gay communities also have people fleeing from them and are welcomed with open arms into the UK by the uks gay activists.
And so we should welcome them with open arms and crack down more on economic migration
Oliver_W
28-06-2022, 01:26 PM
Funny thing is, all these hell holes and backward thinking nations that still persecute the gay communities also have people fleeing from them and are welcomed with open arms into the UK by the uks gay activists.
To be fair Parmy many of the people fleeing those countries and seeking refuge ARE the gay communities of those countries, as they're at serious risk of persecution (or injury, or death). There are sadly places in the world where the violence against the LGBT community is still primarily literal violence, rather than mean tweets.
One just has to hope they leave behind their homophobic and misogynistic cultures...
To be fair Parmy many of the people fleeing those countries and seeking refuge ARE the gay communities of those countries, as they're at serious risk of persecution (or injury, or death). There are sadly places in the world where the violence against the LGBT community is still primarily literal violence, rather than mean tweets.
I know, that's why I never pay much attention to the "they are all men of fighting age" argument.
Oliver_W
28-06-2022, 01:40 PM
I know, that's why I never pay much attention to the "they are all men of fighting age" argument.
Oi, we gays can fight, thank you very much :fist:
Crimson Dynamo
28-06-2022, 01:48 PM
Oi, we gays can fight, thank you very much :fist:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0ZY691nXTpk/maxresdefault.jpg
Oi, we gays can fight, thank you very much :fist:
:joker:
I didn't mean it like that.
arista
02-07-2022, 08:40 AM
Today Pride takes over Central London
Blocking roads
Some Old Gay Men
have moaned many companies
put the Rainbow flag up
but do not give any money.
Well,
Some Companies are
funding HIV help.
So Shut up moaning
arista
02-07-2022, 08:42 AM
Give me an Orange Walk any day
https://eurofree3.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/clockworkorangemen.gif
Top Adult Film
Got Banned, but now on BluRay.
Well worth watching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film)
[During the filming of the Ludovico technique scene,
McDowell scratched a cornea
and was temporarily blinded.
The doctor standing next to him
in the scene, dropping saline
solution into Alex's forced-open eyes,
was a real physician present]
Oliver_W
02-07-2022, 09:22 AM
I've never actually seen Clockwork Orange! I call myself a Filmie and a Kubrick fan, so it's really something i shouldnremedy.
Oliver_W
02-07-2022, 09:27 AM
There are unfortunately places in the world where it would still be an absolute bloodbath (parts of the Middle East and Africa). There are however some places still in the "middle" that I think are still where the UK/US etc were decades ago, good example would be a lot of eastern European EU members where homosexuality is now legally accepted (because of compliance with various EU laws) but still not widely accepted socially in any overt sense.
Well yeah, even back when homosexuality wasn't widely accepted in the West, people in a Pride parade would never really be putting their lives at risk. But the places that REALLY need it ... as you say, it would be a bloodbath.
But I agree there should be a greater Pride presence in certain European countries - they're not beyond help, marchers wouldn't be killed, acceptance is probably within reach.
BUT there shouldn't be the kind of displays which go on in the parades here and in America. Way to go guys, reinforcing every bad gay stereotype. That'll win people over!!
arista
02-07-2022, 09:54 AM
I've never actually seen Clockwork Orange! I call myself a Filmie and a Kubrick fan, so it's really something i shouldnremedy.
Its a 1971 Groundbreaking Film 10 Outta 10
He used Tiny Cassettes for music HI Fi
instead of the new standard cassettes
that had just started
Its a Political film,
After He released it in the UK
some crimes were said to be because of his film
He then Withdrew it from UK Cinemas
But OK in USA.
[The film was withdrawn from British release in 1973
by Warner Bros at the request of Kubrick.
In response to allegations that the film was
responsible for copycat violence Kubrick agreed.]
[In Ireland, the film was banned on 10 April 1973.]
Has Adult Rape Scenes
not good for under 18
arista
02-07-2022, 11:58 AM
lSS1S0dinlU
Another Live Feed Stream
Central London Pride
arista
02-07-2022, 12:39 PM
The Fight Goes on.
Older Protestors - get Police help.
https://twitter.com/SkyScottBeasley/status/1543207313015709697
arista
02-07-2022, 03:19 PM
Uniformed Police are banned
But Peter Tatchell told SkyNewsHD
he has permitted plain closed Police to help him
today on his march through London.
On that above Tweet
Police are with the Anti Gay Protestors
only.
How can anyone ban the police ?
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Crimson Dynamo
02-07-2022, 03:36 PM
F me the police should be out catching crims not attending this "parade"
:umm2:
Liam-
02-07-2022, 03:42 PM
They’re not ‘attending pride’ they’re there to make sure those horrible, vicious bigots don’t attack all those gay people having fun
Crimson Dynamo
02-07-2022, 03:45 PM
They’re not ‘attending pride’ they’re there to make sure those horrible, vicious bigots don’t attack all those gay people having fun
:joker: what the 2 guys in the suits - they are both over 70!
arista
02-07-2022, 04:09 PM
How can anyone ban the police ?
Because of the Gays Death
Murders
the evil bloke that drugged the lads
Reports say Police left him to carry on.
But he has Clothed Covert Coppers
Mystic Mock
02-07-2022, 08:38 PM
They’re not ‘attending pride’ they’re there to make sure those horrible, vicious bigots don’t attack all those gay people having fun
I imagine the Police are there for this reason as well.
hijaxers
02-07-2022, 08:52 PM
To be fair Parmy many of the people fleeing those countries and seeking refuge ARE the gay communities of those countries, as they're at serious risk of persecution (or injury, or death). There are sadly places in the world where the violence against the LGBT community is still primarily literal violence, rather than mean tweets.
Well funny that a woman who works with migrants said on news today that everyone thinks most of them are single young men ~ but they are not most of them are married with families at home ?
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