Bullfight stand collapses in Colombia

[Crimson Dynamo]

At least four people have died and hundreds more have been injured after a stand collapsed during a bullfight

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[Niamh.]

The stands look very flimsy tbf. Not a fan of Bullfighting, it's very cruel for entertainments sake. Still RIP to those who died

[user104658]

It's somewhat difficult to sympathise although I feel for their families, and I hope that none of the victims were children taken along by adults.

But yeah... "I was hurt or killed when I went to an event about torturing and fighting extremely dangerous animals for sport" is a tough sell for empathy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id like to have a look at the health and safety report for that stand as i have a few questions..

[Swan]

Oh well.

[Kazanne]

Sorry no sympathy from me,people who pay to watch the torture and murder of an animal mean nothing to me.

[Swan]

Sorry no sympathy from me,people who pay to watch the torture and murder of an animal mean nothing to me.

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[Nicky91]

karma :hehe:

bullfighting should've been cancelled many many years ago

[Liam-]

Sorry no sympathy from me,people who pay to watch the torture and murder of an animal mean nothing to me.

Lovely way to think about people that

[arista]

Yes made of Wood

Was on GMBHD itv


Bound to collapse.

[Strictly Jake]

I don't get how bullfighting is still allowed. I remember going to Spain when I was about nine and there were tourist posters everywhere advertising it. As in it was something you should go and see in Spain for culture or something. I tried to persuade my parents to take me they refused. I thought it was just a man with a red cloth doing stunts with a bull. When I got older and discovered what it actually was I was so relieved my parents never took me. It's awful!

[Kazanne]

Lovely way to think about people that

I think of animals more,humans have a choice,animals don't.

[Niamh.]

I think of animals more,humans have a choice,animals don't.

Sure but there could have been children in those stands too Kaz, they wouldn't have had a choice.

[Liam-]

Imagine not caring that people die in a tragic accident because they like something you don’t

[ThomasC]

Dear god, I do hope the bull was alright.

Accident waiting to happen though. Hardly looks secure, a bullring made out of wood.

[ThomasC]

Imagine going out for the day to watch the bulls.

You're sat there watching intensely and then the floor caves beneath you.

Splat

[Kazanne]

Sure but there could have been children in those stands too Kaz, they wouldn't have had a choice.

You would hope people wouldnt take thier children Niamh,that would be sad , but I have no time for adults who will pay for that for thier entertainment. Hopefully no children involved.

[bots]

these events are a family day out so it's a certainty there were kids there

[Kazanne]

Imagine not caring that people die in a tragic accident because they like something you don’t

People can do what they like,but when it comes to animal cruelty like that ,then I lose any empathy for them as they obviously have none for the animal that suffers. thats my opinion and it wont change.

[Beso]

The kids wouldnt have paid, their parents would have.

Kazanne clearly stated in her op "people who pay to watch mean nothing to her"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe if the workers who built the stadium had an effective UNion it would have been built properly?

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[thesheriff443]

One of the dead was a baby

[Niamh.]

One of the dead was a baby

aw no, that's very sad

[thesheriff443]

Today, I pulled up Beside two donkeys
Got out and gave one a head rub while the other one looked over at me

I love donkeys.

[Kazanne]

One of the dead was a baby

That is really sad tbh . I love donkeys too,they are worked so hard sometimes.

[Swan]

Liam can say what he likes, but im the same as Kaz on this one. If you find entertainment in watching a defenceless animal being tortured to death then i really don't have any sympathy whatsoever. Children on the other hand is different, they don't have a choice, their parents take them along. Children dying is tragic, anyone will agree with that. But as for the adults, meh.

[ThomasC]

Today, I pulled up Beside two donkeys
Got out and gave one a head rub while the other one looked over at me

I love donkeys.

:joker:

That's cute.

[Liam-]

Thank you for your permission to voice my opinion Swan, truly appreciated

[Swan]

Always happy to help, Liam.

[Strictly Jake]

Today, I pulled up Beside two donkeys
Got out and gave one a head rub while the other one looked over at me

I love donkeys.

I've become a lot more confident around animals lately. There is a really nice family friendly farm near me and I get to stroke and feed the goats, sheep, cows and pigs and it's the most comforting thing they are all so cute. So I hate anyone that would want to see animals tortured

[user104658]

Imagine not caring that people die in a tragic accident because they like something you don’t

I mean it's not like they're fans of the Game of Thrones Season 8 finale or into frisbee golf... they're spectating an evenet that involves an animal being tortured for fun. Like I said early in the thread I do have sympathy, especially for their families, and especially when children are involved. It's just not really to paint it as people "just enjoying an innocent activity" - not only is it morally questionable, it's CLEARLY dangerous, even without the risk of an accident like this ... it's people running around deliberately enraging very dangerous animals. Madness to think that it could ever be a safe family event.

One of the dead was a baby

Really tragic, taking young children and babies along to an event like this is just insane to be honest.

[arista]

Don't make stands out of Wood alone

[Kazanne]

Don't make stands out of Wood alone

Better still arista dont make bull fighting rings at all.

[arista]

Better still arista dont make bull fighting rings at all.



Sure
they are thing of the past.

[MTVN]

Seems strange to have no sympathy as if being a bullfighting spectator is the only aspect of their personality, never mind the fact they would also be parents, children, siblings etc to other people and might also have done a lot of good in their lives

[MTVN]

Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..

[Niamh.]

Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..

yes definitely. I don't like it and think it's a terribly cruel form of entertainment but people could judge meat eaters in the same way if they came from a culture that were all vegetarians for example

[Swan]

yes definitely. I don't like it and think it's a terribly cruel form of entertainment but people could judge meat eaters in the same way if they came from a culture that were all vegetarians for example

They could, but it's completely different when you're actively paying to watch an animal be tortured purely for 'entertainment'.

[Zizu]

Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..


That’s an interesting point although why ANYONE would want to see a completely innocent creature tortured then killed bemuses me .. I’d feel the same if it was for food but this was for pure entertainment


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[Beso]

Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..


Aye true...same goes for growing up in places where the builders are cowboys, injury or death through incompetence is to be expected.

[thesheriff443]

Plus people are products of their upbringing and their environment. If you grow up in a town where bullfighting is still seen as an art form and have parents who instil that then you're going to have a very different view than someone in the UK where its never existed and seems alien. Always best not to be too judgey imo..

It’s traditional acts masking cruelty
To give Sympathy or not is an individuals choice the same choice to go and watch animal’s Be tortured .