Trans woman, 29, beats girl, 13, to win women's skateboarding contest in NYC

[Niamh.]

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A 29-year-old trans woman beat a girl aged 13 to win first place at a skateboarding contest in New York.

Ricci Tres won the Boardr Open, a street skateboarding contest that is "open to all participants at all skill levels" but is split into male and female contests.

Tres won the women’s title and $500 prize money. Shiloh Catori, from Tampa, Florida, came in second place, winning $250.

Another skater, who did not compete in the NY contest, posted on Instagram: "Male wins women’s finals and money at Boardr Open NYC presented by DC today. My story is not unique in skateboarding. My story is not unique in sports in general."

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Several weeks ago she had posted about how she had twice placed second in contests behind trans competitors.

She wrote: “At the last contest series I did for Redbull, I placed second. The trans competitor who won took $1,000 dollars in qualifiers, $3,000 in finals and $1,000 in best trick.

“This totalled to $5,000 of the prize money meant for female athletes.

“I deserved to place first, be acknowledged for my win, and get paid. I reached out to Redbull and was ignored.”

Read more: Trans swimmers banned from competing in women’s elite events by sport's governing body

Earlier this month swimming’s world governing body voted to stop trans athletes taking part in women’s races if they have gone through any part of the process of male puberty.

Under the new policy voted on by Fina, swimming’s world governing body, competitors must have completed their transition by the age of 12 in order to compete in women’s competitions.

Former Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies said the decision gave her ‘pride’ for the sport. She has been an advocate for equality and fairness in sport and has repeatedly spoken out agains trans swimmers in women’s races.

She wrote: “I can’t tell you how proud I am of my sport @fina & @fina_president for doing the science, asking the athletes/coaches and standing up for fair sport for females. “Swimming will always welcome everyone no matter how you identify but fairness is the cornerstone of sport.”

But British Olympic diving Champion and Sports Personality of the Year Tom Daley said he is “furious” at the decision.

He said the decision was “not on”.

"Anyone that's told that they can't compete or can't do something they love just because of who they are, it's not on.

"It's something I feel really strongly about. Giving trans people the chance to share their side,” he said at the British LGBT awards.

Fina took the decision after a report by a scientific panel said that going through male puberty meant trans women retained a performance advantage over biological women, even after medication to reduce testosterone.

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[bots]

i hope the trans woman is thrilled to win an unfair competition

[Liam-]

Sounds like someone’s hyped the kid up too much and she can’t handle losing

[Niamh.]

Sounds like someone’s hyped the kid up too much and she can’t handle losing

Imagine taking the side of an adult male competing in women's sports and beating a female teenager........ #Rightsideofhistorymyass

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

apart from the trans issue, its very strange to have adults competing against children

[Liam-]

Imagine taking the side of an adult male competing in women's sports and beating a female teenager........ #Rightsideofhistorymyass

I might be able to concede with the fact that you have a more valid point with things like swimming/weightlifting/rugby/etc, but sorry, skateboarding is all based on skill, it doesn’t matter what gender you are, if you’re better than someone you’ll beat them, simple as that.

I’m not gonna get into another row about your open bigotry tbh, so I’m gonna leave it at that for the day

[Liam-]

apart from the trans issue, its very strange to have adults competing against children

Yup, someone with possibly a decade more experience at a skill event is going to have an incredible advantage over a child in the same event, but let’s not talk about that, let’s demonise trans people some more, they deserve it

[Niamh.]

apart from the trans issue, its very strange to have adults competing against children

It says it's open to all age groups but is should be divided by sex.

Oddly back in 2015 they seemed concerned about women and girls and wanted to encourage them to skate.....

https://www.redbull.com/in-en/an-open-letter-from-why-girls-should-skate

[Niamh.]

I might be able to concede with the fact that you have a more valid point with things like swimming/weightlifting/rugby/etc, but sorry, skateboarding is all based on skill, it doesn’t matter what gender you are, if you’re better than someone you’ll beat them, simple as that.

I’m not gonna get into another row about your open bigotry tbh, so I’m gonna leave it at that for the day

Likewise with your open misogyny :douf:

[Niamh.]

Yup, someone with possibly a decade more experience at a skill event is going to have an incredible advantage over a child in the same event, but let’s not talk about that, let’s demonise trans people some more, they deserve it

If thats the reason why that person won, how come the adult women didn't beat her too? Also this isn't the first, if you read the article you would see transwomen are beating adult women in other competitions too, also if men have no physical advantage in skateboarding why is it split into sex categories in the first place?

[Kate!]

Niamhs not a bigot. Don't get on your high horse.

It's just not right that trans people can enter these events and win all that money. Its cheating tbh.

[Niamh.]

Niamhs not a bigot. Don't get on your high horse.

It's just not right that trans people can enter these events and win all that money. Its cheating tbh.

Thanks Kate but it's water off a ducks back at this stage, I won't stop speaking about women's rights, the words bigot and transphobe have become utterly meaningless on this topic imo, it's just a way to try and shut people up and stop discussions about it.

[Liam-]

As opposed to the belief that anybody that disagrees with the anti-trans movement is just a woman hater

[rusticgal]

I might be able to concede with the fact that you have a more valid point with things like swimming/weightlifting/rugby/etc, but sorry, skateboarding is all based on skill, it doesn’t matter what gender you are, if you’re better than someone you’ll beat them, simple as that.

I’m not gonna get into another row about your open bigotry tbh, so I’m gonna leave it at that for the day


So why was there a Womens competition and a Mens competition???....Because it does matter what Gender you are...

[Niamh.]

As opposed to the belief that anybody that disagrees with the anti-trans movement is just a woman hater

Being for fairness and safety for women isn't an "anti-trans" movement it's a womens rights issue

[Alf]

Good on the trans woman. Take that beating you little brat.

[Swan]

As opposed to the belief that anybody that disagrees with the anti-trans movement is just a woman hater

Why is it anti trans to be against biological men being allowed to compete against biological women in sports though?

The natural physical advantage can't be argued. It's not anti trans at all, it's common sense.

[Cherie]

It says it's open to all age groups but is should be divided by sex.

Oddly back in 2015 they seemed concerned about women and girls and wanted to encourage them to skate.....

https://www.redbull.com/in-en/an-open-letter-from-why-girls-should-skate

yep no need to divide it into sex categories if there is no physical advantage for men

its seems poor planning all round though

[Crimson Dynamo]

How conceited must that "trans woman" be

so full of their own importance as to not see this as blatant cheating

:crazy:

[Liam-]

People, rightfully, call the removal of various right for woman exactly what it is, sexist and anti-women.

The want to remove various rights for trans people is transphobic and anti-trans, yet people mask it as something else to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Either the removal of certain demographics rights is bad or it’s not, but certain people are quite happy to pick and choose when it’s okay to take peoples rights away as it suits them

[Swan]

People, rightfully, call the removal of various right for woman exactly what it is, sexist and anti-women.

The want to remove various rights for trans people is transphobic and anti-trans, yet people mask it as something else to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Either the removal of certain demographics rights is bad or it’s not, but certain people are quite happy to pick and choose when it’s okay to take peoples rights away as it suits them

It shouldn't be a right for a biological man to compete against a biological women in sports. How can you not see that, giving the logistics of this particular argument?

[Niamh.]

People, rightfully, call the removal of various right for woman exactly what it is, sexist and anti-women.

The want to remove various rights for trans people is transphobic and anti-trans, yet people mask it as something else to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Either the removal of certain demographics rights is bad or it’s not, but certain people are quite happy to pick and choose when it’s okay to take peoples rights away as it suits them

In a lot of areas these rights transpeople are looking for directly conflict with women's rights though, there's where the difference is.

[thesheriff443]

This is one of those topics like others that if you challenge what is happening and the people you are challenging are different from you it makes you a hater.

For me, adults competing against children is just as wrong as trans competitors against non trans competitors

[MTVN]

apart from the trans issue, its very strange to have adults competing against children

According to the pic the young girl has the highest world ranking so much be quite common in skateboarding, guess its a bit like how you get young teens competing in things like figure skating and snowboarding as well

[rusticgal]

I might be able to concede with the fact that you have a more valid point with things like swimming/weightlifting/rugby/etc, but sorry, skateboarding is all based on skill, it doesn’t matter what gender you are, if you’re better than someone you’ll beat them, simple as that.

I’m not gonna get into another row about your open bigotry tbh, so I’m gonna leave it at that for the day


Sadly you are so hell bent on labelling people you fail to see the logic...

[Oliver_W]

People, rightfully, call the removal of various right for woman exactly what it is, sexist and anti-women.

The want to remove various rights for trans people is transphobic and anti-trans, yet people mask it as something else to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Either the removal of certain demographics rights is bad or it’s not, but certain people are quite happy to pick and choose when it’s okay to take peoples rights away as it suits them

The right being removed in this case is the right for women to compete against only other women. Women only competing against women, or transwomen competing against women - two ideas which contradict each other. Women and transwomen can't simulateously be catered to in this situation.

[Jordan.]

Sounds like someone’s hyped the kid up too much and she can’t handle losing

Isn't it only an issue when the transwomen beat them? you don't hear about all the times transwomen compete and don't win.

[Niamh.]

Isn't it only an issue when the transwomen beat them? you don't hear about all the times transwomen compete and don't win.

So do you think transwomen should be able to compete against women then? If so why do we have any sex categories at all in sport?