Creepy Woke Disney shows transgender man offering little girl advice

[Crimson Dynamo]

:facepalm:

Woke Disney shows transgender man offering little girl advice on which tampons to buy in new children's animated series Baymax!


The new show, Baymax!, features what is believed to be the company's first transgender character, who offers period advice (cancel your sub)
In one of the episodes, Baymax asks a woman in the tampon aisle for advice, as he is shopping for period products for Sofia, who got her first period
After asking for help, a swarm of people offer the robot advice, including a male character wearing a transgender flag shirt
He tells Baymax he prefers pads with wings as others suggest an array of options
Parents took to Twitter to criticize the notion, saying it was 'stealing childhood from children' and teaching that 'men can have periods to children'


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A new Disney+ animated kids series Baymax!, features what is believed to
be the company's first transgender character, buying tampons at a
supermarket.

The Big Hero 6 spinoff, which is a series of shorts, features robot nurse
Baymax caring for residents in the futuristic, fictional town of San Fransokyo.

In the controversial episode, Baymax is browsing the menstrual product aisle
at a supermarket on behalf of a 12-year-old girl, when he asks his fellow
shoppers for help.

One of those customers is a trans man, wearing a transgender flag shirt, who hands him a box of pads and tells the robot: 'I always get the ones with wings.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10975901/Disneys-new-kids-animated-series-Baymax-shows-transgender-man-buying-tampons-supermarket.html

[Glenn.]

Imagine being triggered by a Disney cartoon

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine being triggered by a Disney cartoon

imagine not caring what children watch

:umm2:

[Glenn.]

Imagine being triggered by a Disney cartoon :umm2:

[Liam-]

A health robot received a load of different advice from a bunch of people from a multitude of backgrounds so that said health robot could best help a child be comfortable with her changing body, people really need to stop calling everybody else snowflakes if this is what they’re going to constantly whinge about, it’s actually embarrassing

[Liam-]

Although good thread title, you could be a dailyheil writer, completely misrepresents everything that happened with a personal touch of your own bigotry, top notch stuff, I’m almost impressed

[ThomasC]

Sick to death of people being offended by non fecking entities.

There's no story, no outrage to discuss. It is what it is.... Someone asking for advice, several gave advice.

Pisses me off

[ThomasC]

imagine not caring what children watch

:umm2:

Get over yourself, seriously, and grow the hell up

[ThomasC]

Parents took to Twitter to criticize the notion, saying it was 'stealing childhood from children' and teaching that 'men can have periods to children'

What thick parents they must have. They're not teaching that at all.

[bots]

imagine attacking the op for posting a story from a daily newspaper

[Mystic Mock]

Forget the Transgender character, I honestly don't give a **** if they have one or not, as long as the decision that they make works for the series then good for them.

However why does a kids Show want to talk about periods? I always thought kids Shows were meant to be adventurous, funny, and fantastical, a period episode doesn't fit into any of those categories.

And before anyone says Educational, again do you see Doc McStuffin doing an episode on Periods?

[ThomasC]

Forget the Transgender character, I honestly don't give a **** if they have one or not, as long as the decision that they make works for the series then good for them.

However why does a kids Show want to talk about periods? I always thought kids Shows were meant to be adventurous, funny, and fantastical, a period episode doesn't fit into any of those categories.

And before anyone says Educational, again do you see Doc McStuffin doing an episode on Periods?

It is educational and common sense really why they would.

Just like they include maths, brushing your teeth, life skills.... Some are funny, some are funny and educational, some are adventure which include elements of education.

I don't get what there isn't to understand :conf:

[Mystic Mock]

It is educational and common sense really why they would.

Just like they include maths, brushing your teeth, life skills.... Some are funny, some are funny and educational, some are adventure which include elements of education.

I don't get what there isn't to understand :conf:

What child would want to watch an episode about Periods? In fact what adult would want to watch an episode about Periods?

I feel like sometimes writers are forgetting that they're in an entertainment medium when they write certain episodes.

[thesheriff443]

Trans women can’t have periods because they have no womb, so to put a trans woman in an episode saying she uses sanitary towels is not educational, it’s taking the p1ss

The world is seriously fcuked up at this stage

[Barry.]

Trans women can’t have periods because they have no womb, so to put a trans woman in an episode saying she uses sanitary towels is not educational, it’s taking the p1ss

The world is seriously fcuked up at this stage

Maybe she was talking on the when he was a she? He will remember using tampons you know.

[Jordan.]

Trans women can’t have periods because they have no womb, so to put a trans woman in an episode saying she uses sanitary towels is not educational, it’s taking the p1ss

The world is seriously fcuked up at this stage

The character is a trans man as stated in the article.

[thesheriff443]

The character is a trans man as stated in the article.

I stand corrected
So the trans man must still have a womb and not taking meds to stop periods
And is pre op.

All this going on in an episode for kids.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tragic

[jet]

How will kids know this is a transman? Will they think that men have periods?
That wouldn't be educational in the slightest to kids, it would be confusing. Madness.

[Glenn.]

Well hopefully they have intelligent parents to answer any questions they may or may not ask

[thesheriff443]

Well hopefully they have intelligent parents to answer any questions they may or may not ask

The same intelligent parents that are criticising the episode.

Parents decide what their kids should watch not people with no kids

The sense of entitlement from some on here thinking they know what’s best.

[Swan]

Disney, the same company who airbrush out gay characters for China, alter their posters so black people are barely visible.

I also don't agree with this new show. Can we just allow kids to be kids for a bit maybe?

[Mystic Mock]

Disney, the same company who airbrush out gay characters for China, alter their posters so black people are barely visible.

I also don't agree with this new show. Can we just allow kids to be kids for a bit maybe?

Which country hates black people so much that they can't even look at them in a poster?

Trust me I believe you that it exists because it's 2022, but whatever country that Disney has to make this edit for needs to get a grip, even if it's a country that I normally like.

[Glenn.]

The same intelligent parents that are criticising the episode.

Parents decide what their kids should watch not people with no kids

The sense of entitlement from some on here thinking they know what’s best.

If they were intelligent they wouldn’t be criticising it.

[thesheriff443]

If they were intelligent they wouldn’t be criticising it.

Well you would know what’s best for their kids.

Oh wait you don’t, you just think you do.

[ThomasC]

What child would want to watch an episode about Periods? In fact what adult would want to watch an episode about Periods?

I feel like sometimes writers are forgetting that they're in an entertainment medium when they write certain episodes.

Well actually periods is huge and most probably frightening for young people. You blow it out of massive context. It's someone going to purchase sanitary products....this makes young people curious and opens up debate with parents...in turn the child is less worried when the time comes. It's not flat out an episode with periods, how you menstruate, pictures of wombs... Adults probably wouldn't want to watch it because they already know about them.

Trans women can’t have periods because they have no womb, so to put a trans woman in an episode saying she uses sanitary towels is not educational, it’s taking the p1ss

The world is seriously fcuked up at this stage

Trans man and sanitary products are not just used for periods.

No the world is fecked up because of people's very narrow minded outlooks on life.

I stand corrected
So the trans man must still have a womb and not taking meds to stop periods
And is pre op.

All this going on in an episode for kids.

No it's not. You are blowing it out of context. Shall we wrap kids up on cotton wool?

How will kids know this is a transman? Will they think that men have periods?
That wouldn't be educational in the slightest to kids, it would be confusing. Madness.

The world is confusing. This is where the role of a parent and other adults come into play.

Well hopefully they have intelligent parents to answer any questions they may or may not ask

100% spot on!!

The same intelligent parents that are criticising the episode.

Parents decide what their kids should watch not people with no kids

The sense of entitlement from some on here thinking they know what’s best.

And here lies one of the problems. It's a children's programme and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Are these likely to be the same parents who would object to their children be taught about gays?

It just wraps children up in a bubble, unprepares them for the real world, makes them less open minded.

Please tell me what harm it does to show someone going into a store to buy sanitary products? Please tell me what the big fuss is about?


Disney, the same company who airbrush out gay characters for China, alter their posters so black people are barely visible.

I also don't agree with this new show. Can we just allow kids to be kids for a bit maybe?

How is it not allowing kids to be kids?

If they were intelligent they wouldn’t be criticising it.

Yeah I agree

[AnnieK]

Yeah, I'm not quite getting the furore over this. Its probably, what, a 5 minute part at most? Most kids won't think anything of it, the ones that do will probably ask their parents what a period is and that's that. Kids are so accepting that they'll only think its a big thing if the adults around them make it a big thing.

I've been open with my kid about all things sex and body functions since he started to ask about things. I've always been honest and answered his questions properly and in language he will get. We don't get embarrassed and he knows he can ask anything. He is nearly 12 now and hitting puberty hard and so lots of changes happening. We chat, no-one is embarrassed and nothing is a big deal. If you explain things to kids they accept it and get on with their day. There will be kids out there with trans parents or family members so normalising it in this way makes sense to me.

Parents going mad about it will make kids think either a) periods shouldn't be discussed or b) trans =bad

[Beso]

I imagine the little babies plonked in front of the telly to appease them all day have a million questions to ask....when they can talk.

[thesheriff443]

Imagine thinking you have more rights than the actual parents when it comes to what their children should be exposed to at a young age.

End of conversation, if you want to continue go to a primary school gates and start telling parents what their kids should be watching, they won’t be as polite as I’ve been in this thread.

[ThomasC]

Yeah, I'm not quite getting the furore over this. Its probably, what, a 5 minute part at most? Most kids won't think anything of it, the ones that do will probably ask their parents what a period is and that's that. Kids are so accepting that they'll only think its a big thing if the adults around them make it a big thing.

I've been open with my kid about all things sex and body functions since he started to ask about things. I've always been honest and answered his questions properly and in language he will get. We don't get embarrassed and he knows he can ask anything. He is nearly 12 now and hitting puberty hard and so lots of changes happening. We chat, no-one is embarrassed and nothing is a big deal. If you explain things to kids they accept it and get on with their day. There will be kids out there with trans parents or family members so normalising it in this way makes sense to me.

Parents going mad about it will make kids think either a) periods shouldn't be discussed or b) trans =bad

I would give you a gold medal of I could.

Nail on the bloody head.

Especially your part about A) and B)

Social learning theory, or in simple terms, what children learn from others and how they are brought up will really shape them.

We will install fear in children and not prepare them if we don't have open debate and dialogue and just taboo subjects.

[Oliver_W]

The character is a trans man as stated in the article.

Having it as two words is confusing. It should be transman, adding the space makes it sound like "man who is trans", which would be a transwoman.

[ThomasC]

Imagine thinking you have more rights than the actual parents when it comes to what their children should be exposed to at a young age.

End of conversation, if you want to continue go to a primary school gates and start telling parents what their kids should be watching, they won’t be as polite as I’ve been in this thread.

Exposed to?

:joker:

It's certainly nothing harmful. It's a natural process that young children will end up going through. How much of the, half an hour maybe, do you think is around periods? When I say periods, I mean actually going to buy some sanitary products? Maybe we should blindfold children as they walk past sanitary items in the supermarket, in case, god forbid, they might ask what they are and what they are used for.

No one has anymore more rights. The parent has the right, does it make it right? Questionable and hence the debate...which I think is all quite mad it is a debate.

End of conversation? So basically you don't want to engage in a debate on the matter.

[Beso]

Where does baymax keep his cash..he doesnt have any pockets.

[Oliver_W]

Where does baymax keep his cash..he doesnt have any pockets.

He has wireless payment built into his software.

[ThomasC]

Also periods/ejaculation can start as low as 8/9 so again I don't think there's any harm in discussing this.

I actually think they have done a brilliant thing in having children's shows including elements of real life and things children will experience. It builds resilience. Without it you may have problems that cause long term psychological damage

[Nicky91]

can we pretty please throw words like ''woke'' and ''cancel culture'' in the trash bin


i love Disney+, love its variety of content (also good for them in the US, having taken over Dancing with the Stars from ABC also with the original producer whom was with them from seasons 1 to 10, very good move which will get all of the hardcore DWTS viewers signing up with them)


Netflix started off well but is beginning to lose the streaming services war, also thanks to new HBO Max grabbing away most of its content rights from big companies such as Warner Bros, more people will be put off i think with them putting in ad breaks in their series, films


in terms of the topic of this discussion, have nothing to say about a ''nothingness debate'' since there isn't such thing as ''woke'' well the only people who are ''woke'' are the far right, especially those groups such as Golden Dawn and other far right extremist groups who are anti-freedom of speech

[AnnieK]

Imagine thinking you have more rights than the actual parents when it comes to what their children should be exposed to at a young age.

End of conversation, if you want to continue go to a primary school gates and start telling parents what their kids should be watching, they won’t be as polite as I’ve been in this thread.

But you're trying to do the same? By saying it shouldn't be shown you are telling those same parents what their kids should be exposed to? Its not for us to be outraged for every parent because for every person who thinks like you that its wrong, there will be someone else who thinks otherwise.

Basic sex education starts in year 2 now so its natural that programmes will tackle similar issues

[Beso]

Its not for us to be outraged for every parent because for every person who thinks like you that its wrong, there will be someone else who thinks otherwise.

What if the worlds population is an odd number?

[AnnieK]

What if the worlds population is an odd number?

:laugh: I have no answer to that

[thesheriff443]

But you're trying to do the same? By saying it shouldn't be shown you are telling those same parents what their kids should be exposed to? Its not for us to be outraged for every parent because for every person who thinks like you that its wrong, there will be someone else who thinks otherwise.

Basic sex education starts in year 2 now so its natural that programmes will tackle similar issues

I’m saying it’s the parents right to decide what’s right for their children.

By putting a trans man in the episode saying he use’s sanitary is where it goes wrong

A man can’t have periods which we have all been taught in school, so the trans man still has a womb.
That will be confusing for children

Would you let strangers decide what your son should watch .?

I’m not anti trans but give kids a chance to be kids.

[AnnieK]

I’m saying it’s the parents right to decide what’s right for their children.

By putting a trans man in the episode saying he use’s sanitary is where it goes wrong

A man can’t have periods which we have all been taught in school, so the trans man still has a womb.
That will be confusing for children

Would you let strangers decide what your son should watch .?

I’m not anti trans but give kids a chance to be kids.

No, I decide what my son can watch. Anything that is put on TV though could be questionable and is put on there by strangers. Emmerdale has a trans character that discussed having his breast removed, that was shown when most kids are still up. No mass furore then.

If parent's are worried about what their kids could see that could confuse them, they shouldn't be letting them watch TV alone.

Kids are far more aware than they are given credit for. Trans is a fact of life now and the older they get the more they already know. Its not a show aimed at preschoolers. If we have better awareness then is becomes more normal and people aren't shocked by things such as this. Live and let live comes into play and the world is a happier place.

[jet]

The issue for me is nothing to do with educating a child about periods/ sanitary products or transmen/woman in a cartoon - fire away. (Though I think many young children could be confused/disturbed and NOT ask questions - they are not all duplicates.
It is what the cartoon child is perceiving as a man telling her he uses ‘the ones with wings’. Therefore many children may believe that it a given that everyone has periods and not even question it, why would they if they need that education in the first place? That scene isn’t ‘educational’, it’s totally misleading.

[ThomasC]

The issue for me is nothing to do with educating a child about periods/ sanitary products or transmen/woman in a cartoon - fire away. (Though I think many young children could be confused/disturbed and NOT ask questions - they are not all duplicates.
It is what the cartoon child is perceiving as a man telling her he uses ‘the ones with wings’. Therefore many children may believe that it a given that everyone has periods and not even question it, why would they if they need that education in the first place? That scene isn’t ‘educational’, it’s totally misleading.

A lot of children are very inquisitive so are likely to ask why is that man giving advice and then an adult would be able to explain. I would consider that a positive to moving forward in society.

Whether you understand it at the time doesn't really matter as you will eventually learn these things and of they're that worried then they are likely to ask.

I hate this whole cancel culture and level of political correctness. The world has gone mad. I suppose the simple solution is that, as a parent, if you're not happy with your child watching it then you don't let them. I think it's ridiculous myself

[Beso]

Mummy, whybis my cartoon all woke all of a sudden.

[Glenn.]

Well you would know what’s best for their kids.

Oh wait you don’t, you just think you do.

Exposed to?

:joker:

It's certainly nothing harmful. It's a natural process that young children will end up going through. How much of the, half an hour maybe, do you think is around periods? When I say periods, I mean actually going to buy some sanitary products? Maybe we should blindfold children as they walk past sanitary items in the supermarket, in case, god forbid, they might ask what they are and what they are used for.

No one has anymore more rights. The parent has the right, does it make it right? Questionable and hence the debate...which I think is all quite mad it is a debate.

End of conversation? So basically you don't want to engage in a debate on the matter.

There it is. “Exposed to”

[jet]

A lot of children are very inquisitive so are likely to ask why is that man giving advice and then an adult would be able to explain. I would consider that a positive to moving forward in society.

Whether you understand it at the time doesn't really matter as you will eventually learn these things and of they're that worried then they are likely to ask.

I hate this whole cancel culture and level of political correctness. The world has gone mad. I suppose the simple solution is that, as a parent, if you're not happy with your child watching it then you don't let them. I think it's ridiculous myself

If a child doesn't know about periods in the first place and who will have them and who won't, why would they ask "why is that man giving advice"? - they would then take it as a given that all people have them.
Just as many children are as likely to NOT ask questions about everything they see.

I just think the transman scene is totally misleading and unnecessary and probably a 'jump on the bandwagon' exercise by Disney designed to gain maximum publicity for the cartoon.

I agree with you that the world has gone mad. Totally. :hee:

[Swan]

Which country hates black people so much that they can't even look at them in a poster?

Trust me I believe you that it exists because it's 2022, but whatever country that Disney has to make this edit for needs to get a grip, even if it's a country that I normally like.

For the China market. Good old Disney, claiming to be all about pride and diversity in the west, gay characters, edit most things relating to gay anything out of their films, and editing film posters so you can barely see the black characters in any of their films.

Translation, Disney couldn't give a toss about diversity, they're not lgbt whatsoever. If they think it can make them more money, they'll use it though.

[AnnieK]

Kids won't ask why their cartoons are suddenly woke....the kids themselves are far more aware than that. I've just googled it and this show is particularly aimed at kids aged 10 and older (although younger kids will be watching im sure). Kids at 10 will have had the mandatory sex education in school and be aware of periods and trans issues etc. But yeah, agree with Thomas, if you're not happy with your kids watching shows that may or may not be appropriate, watch it with them or switch off the tv and go out and do something else.
The fact is, there are transmen around who do need to buy sanitary products so its not like it doesn't happen.

[jet]

The fact is, there are transmen around who do need to buy sanitary products so its not like it doesn't happen.

Well, as adults we know that. I think you are missing my point completely (if you read my post that is) :hee:

[AnnieK]

If a child doesn't know about periods in the first place and who will have them and who won't, why would they ask "why is that man giving advice"? - they would then take it as a given that all people have them.
Just as many children are as likely to NOT ask questions about everything they see.

I just think the transman scene is totally misleading and unnecessary and probably a 'jump on the bandwagon' exercise by Disney designed to gain maximum publicity for the cartoon.

I agree with you that the world has gone mad. Totally. :hee:

If a child is watching the show and doesn't know about periods, they are of an age where it isn't an issue if they have all the facts or not. :shrug:
If their parents haven't told them about it yet, they will learn in school about them when they are of an age that it matters. Thinking everyone has them is not confusing, if they don't know about them, they probably won't think anything else about it.

[AnnieK]

Well, as adults we know that. I think you are missing my point completely (if you read my post that is) :hee:

My reply was at Parms comments about woke cartoons really but I had read your post. I just don't understand what the issue is.

[jet]

If a child is watching the show and doesn't know about periods, they are of an age where it isn't an issue if they have all the facts or not. :shrug:
If their parents haven't told them about it yet, they will learn in school about them when they are of an age that it matters. Thinking everyone has them is not confusing, if they don't know about them, they probably won't think anything else about it.

Children aren't all copies of one another so they won't all react exactly like you assume they will.

[thesheriff443]

Come on Anniek your boy is 14, he should be watching what he wants so he is prepared for life.
Who gives these people the rights to put controversial material in cartoons

[AnnieK]

Come on Anniek your boy is 14, he should be watching what he wants so he is prepared for life.
Who gives these people the rights to put controversial material in cartoons

No he isn't, he's 11 and still in primary school :shrug:

[jet]

My reply was at Parms comments about woke cartoons really but I had read your post. I just don't understand what the issue is.

It's a misleading scene in a children's cartoon. Young boys may think they will get periods and not all will ask their parents about that. It could even lead to them being bullied for being 'stupid' by more aware peers.

[AnnieK]

Children aren't all copies of one another so they won't all react exactly like you assume they will.

But you are assuming they'll be confused so I could say they same thing back to you:shrug:

[thesheriff443]

No he isn't, he's 11 and still in primary school :shrug:

Again in this thread I Stand corrected
My view is that’s it’s up to the parents to decide what their children watch and are taught.

[jet]

But you are assuming they'll be confused so I could say they same thing back to you:shrug:

No, I specifically referred to many/some who may not ask questions.

[AnnieK]

It's a misleading scene in a children's cartoon. Young boys may think they will get periods and not all will ask their parents about that. It could even lead to them being bullied for being 'stupid' by more aware peers.

There's a lot of hypotheticals there.

The key to tolerance and understanding is education. Like it or not the TV plays a part in educating a lot of kids and these are very real issues in today's society and kids need to be aware of trans issues in order to promote a more accepting society

[AnnieK]

No, I specifically referred to many/some who may not ask questions.

And where did I say ALL kids would ask questions. Surely its a given that they're not all robots?

I didn't say ALL kids would act the same way, I've just read back and nowhere have I categorically said that ALL kids will react in the same way.

[Liam-]

Hiding certain real world aspect of life away from children as they’re entering their tween years, going into being teenagers isn’t protecting them, it’s making them completely ignorant and naive to things that they’re going to need to talk about, the way people are talking about this one scene as if either periods should be one big dirty secret that nobody should talk about, or that trans people shouldn’t exist in just general life and conversations, if you want kids to grow up being just as ignorant as their parents, just say that y’know, let’s not pretend that a less than 5 minute scene in a tv show is going to radically alter the minds of vulnerable children, it’s becoming ****ing pantomime for the purposefully ignorant

[AnnieK]

Again in this thread I Stand corrected
My view is that’s it’s up to the parents to decide what their children watch and are taught.

I quite agree with that. I don't agree that this type of material shouldn't be out there so parents can make that decision. If mine was watching something I don't think is appropriate I make him turn it off, I don't kick up a fuss as I know sone parent's will be happy with their kids watching it

[jet]

There's a lot of hypotheticals there.

The key to tolerance and understanding is education. Like it or not the TV plays a part in educating a lot of kids and these are very real issues in today's society and kids need to be aware of trans issues in order to promote a more accepting society

So you disagree that a man (as perceived by a child) referring to himself as having periods is misleading children?

[Liam-]

In the movie in which this health robot is from, one of the characters died a horrible, on screen death in a fire/explosion, but no we can’t have children hearing about periods or seeing trans people, that’s too emotionally challenging!

[ThomasC]

There's a lot of hypotheticals there.

The key to tolerance and understanding is education. Like it or not the TV plays a part in educating a lot of kids and these are very real issues in today's society and kids need to be aware of trans issues in order to promote a more accepting society

Agreed.


Hiding certain real world aspect of life away from children as they’re entering their tween years, going into being teenagers isn’t protecting them, it’s making them completely ignorant and naive to things that they’re going to need to talk about, the way people are talking about this one scene as if either periods should be one big dirty secret that nobody should talk about, or that trans people shouldn’t exist in just general life and conversations, if you want kids to grow up being just as ignorant as their parents, just say that y’know, let’s not pretend that a less than 5 minute scene in a tv show is going to radically alter the minds of vulnerable children, it’s becoming ****ing pantomime for the purposefully ignorant

Agreed

[ThomasC]

So you disagree that a man (as perceived by a child) referring to himself as having periods is not misleading children?

Why does it even matter?

If this was hair dye we were on about would anyone care? Even though on the box there's a picture of a woman....would this be controversial because it might mislead children?

What's the harm in misleading children? It opens it up to questions. At what age would you expect a child to find out that some transmen use sanitary products?

[ThomasC]

In the movie in which this health robot is from, one of the characters died a horrible, on screen death in a fire/explosion, but no we can’t have children hearing about periods or seeing trans people, that’s too emotionally challenging!

Don't talk sense :joker:

Apparently children seeing this though is going to cause them damage because it's misleading.

What a joke. We really are going backwards. No wonder there's issues in today's youth and adults. People just don't want to speak about the elephant in the room and we unnecessarily shield children from reality.... This in turn leads to a society in which things are less accepted and there is prejudice and deragatory outlooks

[jet]

Why does it even matter?

If this was hair dye we were on about would anyone care? Even though on the box there's a picture of a woman....would this be controversial because it might mislead children?

What's the harm in misleading children? It opens it up to questions. At what age would you expect a child to find out that some transmen use sanitary products?

Well you carry on thinking its okay to mislead some young boys into thinking they will have periods (and misleading girls too) and I'll carry on thinking they shouldn't be misled by the bandwagon jumping Disney for publicity and more money money money.

Good day to you. :douf:

[AnnieK]

So you disagree that a man (as perceived by a child) referring to himself as having periods is misleading children?

I disagree with the cartoon being demonised for presenting real life scenarios that can and do happen.

As I said I am a parent of a similar aged child. I don't let him watch shows I feel are inappropriate, he doesn't have a tv in his room so I am aware of what he is watching and will talk to him about issues I think he needs to know or if I feel he shouldn't watch something. That is where I disagree. If kids are left to watch tv and don't understand or don't ask, that's not the shows fault. Its a parenting issue. Too many parents use the tv as a babysitter and then complain about the shows they're watching rather than explaining things to their kids

[ThomasC]

Well you carry on thinking its okay to mislead some young boys into thinking they will have periods (and misleading girls too) and I'll carry on thinking they shouldn't be misled by the bandwagon jumping Disney for publicity and more money money money.

Good day to you. :douf:

I don't think it's misleading anyone.

You're just presuming that....and what's the worse thing that misleading is going to do?

There's a whole heap of stuff which children should not see and will get mislead by. That's part of growing up! It's not easy, but with a good support network around them they should be fine.

I would personally focus on bigger issues than this! Maybe just stop kids watching TV full stop, hay, maybe not even let them leave the house... Big world out there and a very diverse one, but with unfortunately non-diverse attitudes.

Focus on a real issues like CSE, grooming, bullying, anti-social behaviour, drinking, drugs, aggression, peer pressure etc

Not one where a man buys a sanitary product.

[Beso]

Kids won't ask why their cartoons are suddenly woke....the kids themselves are far more aware than that. I've just googled it and this show is particularly aimed at kids aged 10 and older (although younger kids will be watching im sure). Kids at 10 will have had the mandatory sex education in school and be aware of periods and trans issues etc. But yeah, agree with Thomas, if you're not happy with your kids watching shows that may or may not be appropriate, watch it with them or switch off the tv and go out and do something else.
The fact is, there are transmen around who do need to buy sanitary products so its not like it doesn't happen.




What do they use them for?

[ThomasC]

What do they use them for?

Ermmm.... They may still have a womb.

They might have a weak bladder... They might have prostate issues, they might have loose bowels, they might suffer with anxiety which could cause them to wet themselves, they might be buying them for someone else etc etc

[AnnieK]

What do they use them for?

The same reason women use them. If they are pre-op and haven't had hormone treatment to stop their periods, they will still bleed monthly. What should they do then? Not use anything? Shove a load of tissue in their pants? Or buy the products that are for periods?

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Disney: &quot;Men can have periods.&quot;<br><br>Also Disney: &quot;We promise we aren't grooming your kids.&quot;<br><br>No more special Congressional treatment for this woke nonsense. <a href="https://t.co/C2G4s33JOx">https://t.co/C2G4s33JOx</a></p>&mdash; Rep. Dan Bishop (@RepDanBishop) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepDanBishop/status/1542570138469285893?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jet]

I'm reminded of the reason I don't normally participate in these sort of discussions (or political ones etc.)
You have an opinion on one aspect alone (like the scene I see as misleading in this case) and you get lectures on how your opinion is completely wrong and what you should be focusing on instead and you must be anti - trans and anti - progressive yadda yadda yadda.
People can't have discussions anymore without OTT assumptions being thrown around.
Can't be arsed.

[Oliver_W]

Well you carry on thinking its okay to mislead some young boys into thinking they will have periods (and misleading girls too) and I'll carry on thinking they shouldn't be misled by the bandwagon jumping Disney for publicity and more money money money.

Good day to you. :douf:

I guess it might have helped if they specified that transmen are actually women, which is why they can menstruate.

[rusticgal]

I'm reminded of the reason I don't normally participate in these sort of discussions (or political ones etc.)
You have an opinion on one aspect alone (like the scene I see as misleading in this case) and you get lectures on how your opinion is completely wrong and what you should be focusing on instead and you must be anti - trans and anti - progressive yadda yadda yadda.
People can't have discussions anymore without OTT assumptions being thrown around.
Can't be arsed.


Which is why I dont bother on these issues. People get defensive and name call and cannot discuss respectfully.
....and Jet your point was completely valid and I totally agree. Young children today...let them be children...it must be so confusing for them.

[AnnieK]

Which is why I dont bother on these issues. People get defensive and name call and cannot discuss respectfully.
....and Jet your point was completely valid and I totally agree. Young children today...let them be children...it must be so confusing for them.

Where is the disrespectful discussion? I have been respectful at all points. We cant all agree, but this has remained pretty respectful from all sides. I've not seen name calling at all.

My point is, it can be turned off but shouldn't be removed as sone parent's will feel it is an education opportunity to discuss trans issues with their children. Where is the harm?

Do we ban Emmerdale as Matty is trans and has discussed issues of gender realignment as that might be confusing as why does a man have breasts? Emmerdale is on pre watershed when most kids at watching tv?

[jet]

Which is why I dont bother on these issues. People get defensive and name call and cannot discuss respectfully.
....and Jet your point was completely valid and I totally agree. Young children today...let them be children...it must be so confusing for them.

Thank you. :love:

[Glenn.]

I disagree with the cartoon being demonised for presenting real life scenarios that can and do happen.

As I said I am a parent of a similar aged child. I don't let him watch shows I feel are inappropriate, he doesn't have a tv in his room so I am aware of what he is watching and will talk to him about issues I think he needs to know or if I feel he shouldn't watch something. That is where I disagree. If kids are left to watch tv and don't understand or don't ask, that's not the shows fault. Its a parenting issue. Too many parents use the tv as a babysitter and then complain about the shows they're watching rather than explaining things to their kids

Spot on and an extension to what I said earlier about intelligent parents answering any question a child may have. It’s the way of the world no matter what the hateful and bigots want. Instead of hushing up the real world scenarios Disney should be applauded imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That we are even talking about Disney and politics in the same breath suggests
that damage has already been done. Disney’s brand has always rested on its
universality. When people watch Encanto or visit Disney World, it’s not because
they want to signal something about their political identity but because they
want to laugh, sigh, scream or weep. Disney is not meant to be a participant in
the culture wars; it is meant to be a refuge from them.



https://www.newstatesman.com/quickfire/2022/06/disney-dont-say-gay-woke-capitalism

[Mystic Mock]

Well actually periods is huge and most probably frightening for young people. You blow it out of massive context. It's someone going to purchase sanitary products....this makes young people curious and opens up debate with parents...in turn the child is less worried when the time comes. It's not flat out an episode with periods, how you menstruate, pictures of wombs... Adults probably wouldn't want to watch it because they already know about them.



Trans man and sanitary products are not just used for periods.

No the world is fecked up because of people's very narrow minded outlooks on life.



No it's not. You are blowing it out of context. Shall we wrap kids up on cotton wool?



The world is confusing. This is where the role of a parent and other adults come into play.



100% spot on!!



And here lies one of the problems. It's a children's programme and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Are these likely to be the same parents who would object to their children be taught about gays?

It just wraps children up in a bubble, unprepares them for the real world, makes them less open minded.

Please tell me what harm it does to show someone going into a store to buy sanitary products? Please tell me what the big fuss is about?




How is it not allowing kids to be kids?



Yeah I agree

Adults wouldn't want to watch it because it doesn't make for an entertaining episode, it doesn't matter how they dress the episode up, it just isn't an interesting episode idea.

Plus aren't Schools supposed to teach the older kids this stuff?

[Liam-]

Sorry, but if an adult refuses to watch a show because it talks about periods for a little bit then they just need to grow up

[AnnieK]

Adults wouldn't want to watch it because it doesn't make for an entertaining episode, it doesn't matter how they dress the episode up, it just isn't an interesting episode idea.

Plus aren't Schools supposed to teach the older kids this stuff?

When I was a kid, everyone read Judy Bloom books, one of them was about periods. Literally every girl I knew read it. Its a fact of life so while you may not find it interesting doesn't mean some won't find it interesting /educational. :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

For the China market. Good old Disney, claiming to be all about pride and diversity in the west, gay characters, edit most things relating to gay anything out of their films, and editing film posters so you can barely see the black characters in any of their films.

Translation, Disney couldn't give a toss about diversity, they're not lgbt whatsoever. If they think it can make them more money, they'll use it though.

God and I thought Japan was racist.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I'm reminded of the reason I don't normally participate in these sort of discussions (or political ones etc.)
You have an opinion on one aspect alone (like the scene I see as misleading in this case) and you get lectures on how your opinion is completely wrong and what you should be focusing on instead and you must be anti - trans and anti - progressive yadda yadda yadda.
People can't have discussions anymore without OTT assumptions being thrown around.
Can't be arsed.

Tbf it's a debates section of the Forum so people are gonna disagree with you on topics, it's natural with these threads.

[Mystic Mock]

Sorry, but if an adult refuses to watch a show because it talks about periods for a little bit then they just need to grow up

Let's be honest would anyone on here find an episode about periods entertaining? Don't forget TV Shows are suppose to entertain first and foremost before anything else, so would you want to watch an episode about someone buying sanitary products? That's not immature to say that's an extremely boring concept for an episode.

Everyone is talking about the Trans character, but ignoring that Disney thinks that buying sanitary products is an entertaining idea for an episode.:laugh:

To me personally I wouldn't ban the episode like some people are suggesting as I don't support censorship, but I do question why Disney thought that someone buying sanitary products for an episode is entertaining.

[ThomasC]

Tbf it's a debates section of the Forum so people are gonna disagree with you on topics, it's natural with these threads.

Exactly. Just ridiculous.

You don't like an opposing opinion so you get the hump.

Get a grip. :joker::joker:

[ThomasC]

Adults wouldn't want to watch it because it doesn't make for an entertaining episode, it doesn't matter how they dress the episode up, it just isn't an interesting episode idea.

Plus aren't Schools supposed to teach the older kids this stuff?


It's not made for adults. I don't get your point?

It's not just schools. TV programmes can be fun but educationally. It's a multi-aspected approach that is needed. It's not just on schools to teach this.

[Liam-]

Let's be honest would anyone on here find an episode about periods entertaining? Don't forget TV Shows are suppose to entertain first and foremost before anything else, so would you want to watch an episode about someone buying sanitary products? That's not immature to say that's an extremely boring concept for an episode.

Everyone is talking about the Trans character, but ignoring that Disney thinks that buying sanitary products is an entertaining idea for an episode.:laugh:

To me personally I wouldn't ban the episode like some people are suggesting as I don't support censorship, but I do question why Disney thought that someone buying sanitary products for an episode is entertaining.

The entire episode obviously isn’t about buying pads or tampons, it’s a tiny scene in a full episode and if the idea of watching a scene like that puts someone off of watching something then they seriously have issues

[Mystic Mock]

When I was a kid, everyone read Judy Bloom books, one of them was about periods. Literally every girl I knew read it. Its a fact of life so while you may not find it interesting doesn't mean some won't find it interesting /educational. :shrug:

Fair enough.

I just don't get why TV/Streamers seem to have lost the art form of entertainment.

[ThomasC]

Let's be honest would anyone on here find an episode about periods entertaining? Don't forget TV Shows are suppose to entertain first and foremost before anything else, so would you want to watch an episode about someone buying sanitary products? That's not immature to say that's an extremely boring concept for an episode.

Everyone is talking about the Trans character, but ignoring that Disney thinks that buying sanitary products is an entertaining idea for an episode.:laugh:

To me personally I wouldn't ban the episode like some people are suggesting as I don't support censorship, but I do question why Disney thought that someone buying sanitary products for an episode is entertaining.

Everyone is focusing on the trans character, which you admit, but then ignore that there were 4 other people on that conversation making recommendations.

I haven't seen the whole episode, but I very highly doubt it was a whole episode on periods. It just happened to contain a segment that did.

How you can miss the point that this isn't aimed at adults so why would they find it entertaining? It's for children and it's a 1 minute clip

[ThomasC]

Fair enough.

I just don't get why TV/Streamers seem to have lost the art form of entertainment.

Because of a 1 minute clip when the whole thing was probably 30 minutes long? :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

It's not made for adults. I don't get your point?

It's not just schools. TV programmes can be fun but educationally. It's a multi-aspected approach that is needed. It's not just on schools to teach this.

Because you said that adults wouldn't watch this type of episode because they already know the basics of the topic, so I responded with that most adults also wouldn't find it entertaining either.

And speaking for myself, when I was a kid I was into things like Spongebob, Phineas & Ferb, Sonic X, Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy, Horrid Henry & The Cramp Twins etc, none of them were busy trying to be uber realistic.

Now think back to your favourite children's Shows, did you like any kids Show that was about sanitary products or did you like the kids shows that made you laugh and had fun watching?

[ThomasC]

Let's just put our heads in our laps and pretend that people don't have periods?

And then when the day comes that your child or children have them they can be really distressed because we didn't want to discuss it or see anything about it.

Ohh, and let's just leave it down to the schools to educate them. Not our business.

[Oliver_W]

Because you said that adults wouldn't watch this type of episode because they already know the basics of the topic,

You say that, but some people think men can have periods and women can have penises :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Exactly. Just ridiculous.

You don't like an opposing opinion so you get the hump.

Get a grip. :joker::joker:

Tbf I get that it's a topic that a lot of people get worked up over.

It's just Jet has to be prepared that there will be other people that will feel the same way on the other side of the debate.

[Mystic Mock]

The entire episode obviously isn’t about buying pads or tampons, it’s a tiny scene in a full episode and if the idea of watching a scene like that puts someone off of watching something then they seriously have issues

It's a really boring sounding scene as well.

Admittedly though less intimidating than an entire episode like our beloved Netflix would go for.:joker:

[ThomasC]

Because you said that adults wouldn't watch this type of episode because they already know the basics of the topic, so I responded with that most adults also wouldn't find it entertaining either.

And speaking for myself, when I was a kid I was into things like Spongebob, Phineas & Ferb, Sonic X, Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy, Horrid Henry & The Cramp Twins etc, none of them were busy trying to be uber realistic.

Now think back to your favourite children's Shows, did you like any kids Show that was about sanitary products or did you like the kids shows that made you laugh and had fun watching?

No you said:

What child would want to watch an episode about Periods? In fact what adult would want to watch an episode about Periods?

And that's when I said well it's not aimed at adults yet you keep going on about adults finding it entertaining and even asking who of us on here would...which just not relevant as it's a children's programme....

Well, :joker: this isn't realistic either...it's a robot asking for recommendations which as I kid I would probably have found funny. The role that children's TV plays has changed somewhat over the years. I feel they are able to add in educational aspects whilst still making it fun... Mr Tumble springs to mind.....the wombles
...I can't think but there's loads, the one where they explain how stuff works and lots of them include maths for example... You are taking something massively out of context to try and say it's not entertaining when all we have seen is a 1 minute clip in which they're in a supermarket buying some sanitary products

[Mystic Mock]

Everyone is focusing on the trans character, which you admit, but then ignore that there were 4 other people on that conversation making recommendations.

I haven't seen the whole episode, but I very highly doubt it was a whole episode on periods. It just happened to contain a segment that did.

How you can miss the point that this isn't aimed at adults so why would they find it entertaining? It's for children and it's a 1 minute clip

Would children find this content entertaining though?

Don't get me wrong it sounds better now that I know it's not an entire episode, but it's still one of those scenes that sounds like it'd be a really boring scene.

[rusticgal]

Where is the disrespectful discussion? I have been respectful at all points. We cant all agree, but this has remained pretty respectful from all sides. I've not seen name calling at all.

My point is, it can be turned off but shouldn't be removed as sone parent's will feel it is an education opportunity to discuss trans issues with their children. Where is the harm?

Do we ban Emmerdale as Matty is trans and has discussed issues of gender realignment as that might be confusing as why does a man have breasts? Emmerdale is on pre watershed when most kids at watching tv?


Annie...you always hold a respectful discussion. My comments were not aimed at you. Its more than obvious who the name callers are....

[Mystic Mock]

Because of a 1 minute clip when the whole thing was probably 30 minutes long? :joker:

There are Shows out there that aren't that entertaining at the moment imo, because they pride realism over entertainment.

Ironically this Show isn't even the worst sounding Show that I've heard about.

[rusticgal]

Exactly. Just ridiculous.

You don't like an opposing opinion so you get the hump.

Get a grip. :joker::joker:

There is debating...and there is name calling which is just uncalled for.

[ThomasC]

Would children find this content entertaining though?

Don't get me wrong it sounds better now that I know it's not an entire episode, but it's still one of those scenes that sounds like it'd be a really boring scene.

Well if they didn't then they would turn it off:conf:

What you find entertaining as a child will not be the same as an adult

It would solve this whole debate if parents did if they're not happy.

[ThomasC]

There is debating...and there is name calling which is just uncalled for.

Like what?

Show me the name calling?

I think someone called someone a bigot at worse. :laugh:

Which only means you won't change your opinion on something.

Shall we just shut down the debate section?

[Mystic Mock]

Let's just put our heads in our laps and pretend that people don't have periods?

And then when the day comes that your child or children have them they can be really distressed because we didn't want to discuss it or see anything about it.

Ohh, and let's just leave it down to the schools to educate them. Not our business.

It's one of those topics that I personally just don't find interesting to watch.

I wouldn't ban the scene or anything like that because I'm not a lunatic, but I just think it's one of them that's weird to be apart of a Big Hero 6 which looks like a more fantastical story of our world.

So a story about sanitary products just looks to Slice Of Life for that Show.:joker:

[ThomasC]

It's one of those topics that I personally just don't find interesting to watch.

I wouldn't ban the scene or anything like that because I'm not a lunatic, but I just think it's one of them that's weird to be apart of a Big Hero 6 which looks like a more fantastical story of our world.

So a story about sanitary products just looks to Slice Of Life for that Show.:joker:

Omg. It's like arguing with cotton wool.

You're not a CHILD

[Beso]

Let's just put our heads in our laps and pretend that people don't have periods?

And then when the day comes that your child or children have them they can be really distressed because we didn't want to discuss it or see anything about it.

Ohh, and let's just leave it down to the schools to educate them. Not our business.


You can pick up plenty of leaflets at the doctors surgery, you dont need a white blob on the telly confusing the issue.

[Mystic Mock]

You say that, but some people think men can have periods and women can have penises :joker:

I don't think anyone thinks that is biologically possible.

And tbf I wouldn't want Disney to deliberately offend Trans people either, it's supposed to be an entertainment company at the end of the day.

[Mystic Mock]

No you said:

What child would want to watch an episode about Periods? In fact what adult would want to watch an episode about Periods?

And that's when I said well it's not aimed at adults yet you keep going on about adults finding it entertaining and even asking who of us on here would...which just not relevant as it's a children's programme....

Well, :joker: this isn't realistic either...it's a robot asking for recommendations which as I kid I would probably have found funny. The role that children's TV plays has changed somewhat over the years. I feel they are able to add in educational aspects whilst still making it fun... Mr Tumble springs to mind.....the wombles
...I can't think but there's loads, the one where they explain how stuff works and lots of them include maths for example... You are taking something massively out of context to try and say it's not entertaining when all we have seen is a 1 minute clip in which they're in a supermarket buying some sanitary products


No I've asked about children & adults, who would find this entertaining?

Thinking about kids taste in Shows and scenes, they tend to normally love one of three things.

1. Gross humour like Sanjay & Craig.
2. Adventure Shows.
3. Musicals are a big hit with kids.

But ironically you're just jumping onto one part of what I've said, and have completely ignored posts where I've said about who in general (including kids) will find a scene, an episode or a season about Sanitary products entertaining? Thinking of when I was a kid, my Niece & Nephew's taste in Shows, and kids in general, they aren't really that interested in this type of scene so it's weird for Disney to make it imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Well if they didn't then they would turn it off:conf:

What you find entertaining as a child will not be the same as an adult

It would solve this whole debate if parents did if they're not happy.

Tbf I haven't seen the scene in question so maybe it is less boring than it sounds.

It's just to me personally the idea sounds dull, speaking for myself as a kid too, it just sounds like a really dull scene.

And for me an entertainment medium should be providing entertainment for it's audience, maybe Disney can prove me wrong though and kids will rate this scene really highly.

[jet]

Exactly. Just ridiculous.

You don't like an opposing opinion so you get the hump.

Get a grip. :joker::joker:

I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, and I had an opinion on one aspect only, as I repeatedly said.
It’s when they go on to expand and lecture you on things you didn’t even refer to or have a problem with in the first place, that its not worth the bother. My personal choice.

[Mystic Mock]

There is debating...and there is name calling which is just uncalled for.

Have I missed something?

I feel like me and ThomasC at least have debated each other respectfully, and Jet & AnnieK seemed fine to me.

I mean this is a 5 page thread so I might've missed something, but everyone seems reasonably respectful in the debate from what I've read.

[Black Dagger]

I'm actually ashamed at what this forum has become. Really don't know why I bothered to log in but it had to be said.

[rusticgal]

Like what?

Show me the name calling?

I think someone called someone a bigot at worse. :laugh:

Which only means you won't change your opinion on something.

Shall we just shut down the debate section?


Look at the put downs to anyone who dare challenge the point....'Thick' 'Unintelligent' 'Bigots'....and you quoted them and agreed :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

I'm actually ashamed at what this forum has become. Really don't know why I bothered to log in but it had to be said.

Welcome back Black Dagger.

Not meant as sarcasm btw, I'm happy to see you back.

I apologize if my posts have put you off coming back on here, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was thinking about the episode from an entertainment/interest perspective.

I don't perceive myself to be in the transphobic camp, but people can correct me on that if they feel otherwise.

[rusticgal]

Have I missed something?

I feel like me and ThomasC at least have debated each other respectfully, and Jet & AnnieK seemed fine to me.

I mean this is a 5 page thread so I might've missed something, but everyone seems reasonably respectful in the debate from what I've read.

The random few come on here and spoil the tone...calling any parent or anyone that objects "Thick, uneducated and unintelligent"....TC offers good debate but he quoted these comments and agreed with them...
...and that was up to page 2.

[Mystic Mock]

Omg. It's like arguing with cotton wool.

You're not a CHILD

I know.

No offence intended here, but I think you're not judging this Show through the lens of what a child would want to watch.

I'm judging it from a child's perspective first and foremost, and when I was a child I wouldn't watch a programme that had such a realistic approach to storytelling, and a lot of kids don't like realistic kids stories like this either as they're immature and normally want to watch something more juvenile or adventurous.

And then I judge the programme through my own personal tastes that I have now, and that scene sounds incredibly dull, and as it's the only thing that I know about the programme then it's the only thing that I have to go off.

I hope that I've made my point clear.

[Black Dagger]

Welcome back Black Dagger.

Not meant as sarcasm btw, I'm happy to see you back.

I apologize if my posts have put you off coming back on here, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was thinking about the episode from an entertainment/interest perspective.

I don't perceive myself to be in the transphobic camp, but people can correct me on that if they feel otherwise.

Oh it's not you that has made me not want to post anymore. Don't worry about that.

[Mystic Mock]

Oh it's not you that has made me not want to post anymore. Don't worry about that.

Well I'm relieved about that.

Hopefully you do reconsider and stick around though, you have made really good posts over the years.

[Mystic Mock]

The random few come on here and spoil the tone...calling any parent or anyone that objects "Thick, uneducated and unintelligent"....TC offers good debate but he quoted these comments and agreed with them...
...and that was up to page 2.

Fair enough, I've probably missed them when skimming through the thread.

I'm gonna be off now anyway, I've enjoyed the debate.

See you guys later.:wavey:

[jet]

Tbf it's a debates section of the Forum so people are gonna disagree with you on topics, it's natural with these threads.

I'll reply to you too Mock as I did to Thomas:

I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, and I had an opinion on one aspect only, as I repeatedly said.
It’s when they go on to expand and lecture you on things you didn’t even refer to or have a problem with in the first place, that its not worth the bother. My personal choice.

[rusticgal]

Fair enough, I've probably missed them when skimming through the thread.

I'm gonna be off now anyway, I've enjoyed the debate.

See you guys later.:wavey:


:wavey:

[Beso]

Welcome back Black Dagger.

Not meant as sarcasm btw, I'm happy to see you back.

I apologize if my posts have put you off coming back on here, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was thinking about the episode from an entertainment/interest perspective.

I don't perceive myself to be in the transphobic camp, but people can correct me on that if they feel otherwise.



Half the problem is the fact you've been made to feel like you have to apologise.

[Jordan.]

Having it as two words is confusing. It should be transman, adding the space makes it sound like "man who is trans", which would be a transwoman.

Okay? Well take it up with the dictionary or something then pick me

[ThomasC]

No I've asked about children & adults, who would find this entertaining?

Thinking about kids taste in Shows and scenes, they tend to normally love one of three things.

1. Gross humour like Sanjay & Craig.
2. Adventure Shows.
3. Musicals are a big hit with kids.

But ironically you're just jumping onto one part of what I've said, and have completely ignored posts where I've said about who in general (including kids) will find a scene, an episode or a season about Sanitary products entertaining? Thinking of when I was a kid, my Niece & Nephew's taste in Shows, and kids in general, they aren't really that interested in this type of scene so it's weird for Disney to make it imo.

I think children are entertained by animation to a degree regardless of what is being talked about.

We'll agree to disagree anyway. I can't make the guess that children would find it boring when I've only seen 1 minute of it

Parents took to Twitter to criticize the notion, saying it was 'stealing childhood from children' and teaching that 'men can have periods to children'

What thick parents they must have. They're not teaching that at all.

This is all I really said with the 'thick' comment, not referring to anyone on here, but come on.....someone on Twitter saying it's stealing children's childhood.... Sorry but I do consider that a thick comment.... You can very easily change the chanel. Cancer, illness, suicide, bullying...those sort of things steal childhoods NOT this when it's the decision of the parent as to whether they watch it in the first place

[ThomasC]

I'm actually ashamed at what this forum has become. Really don't know why I bothered to log in but it had to be said.

Talk about drama queen.

No time for a pity party here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Talk about drama queen.

No time for a pity party here.

:joker:

he has been saying the same thing for the last umpteen years

[Mystic Mock]

I'll reply to you too Mock as I did to Thomas:

I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, and I had an opinion on one aspect only, as I repeatedly said.
It’s when they go on to expand and lecture you on things you didn’t even refer to or have a problem with in the first place, that its not worth the bother. My personal choice.

That's a fair statement.

[Mystic Mock]

Half the problem is the fact you've been made to feel like you have to apologise.

I'll defend Black Dagger here, it's just the way I behave in recent years.

I'm not as big on slanging matches like I used to be as I don't like to deliberately go out of my way to upset people.

And to the topic, when I've got the time I will check this Show out with an open mind, just to see if ThomasC has a point here, because there's no better way to judge a Show or a scene than there is by actually watching it in execution.

[Mystic Mock]

I think children are entertained by animation to a degree regardless of what is being talked about.

We'll agree to disagree anyway. I can't make the guess that children would find it boring when I've only seen 1 minute of it



This is all I really said with the 'thick' comment, not referring to anyone on here, but come on.....someone on Twitter saying it's stealing children's childhood.... Sorry but I do consider that a thick comment.... You can very easily change the chanel. Cancer, illness, suicide, bullying...those sort of things steal childhoods NOT this when it's the decision of the parent as to whether they watch it in the first place

Oh the Show can't steal kids childhood, because the parents can ultimately stop the kid from watching the Show if it's traumatizing them.

[Beso]

I'll defend Black Dagger here, it's just the way I behave in recent years.

I'm not as big on slanging matches like I used to be as I don't like to deliberately go out of my way to upset people.

And to the topic, when I've got the time I will check this Show out with an open mind, just to see if ThomasC has a point here, because there's no better way to judge a Show or a scene than there is by actually watching it in execution.



LT posted it a page or 2 ago.

[Mystic Mock]

LT posted it a page or 2 ago.

I get that, but sometimes seeing the episode in context away from just a singular scene can give off a better impression of what the Show is like.

[Beso]

Andrew Tate says it best..

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[Beso]

Andrew Tate says it best..

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