Keir Starmer Backs Snap General Election

[arista]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/johnson-sunak-resigns-election-starmer-b2116510.html


He does not want Johnson staying as a Care Taker

[Gusto Brunt]

More wasteful cost to the taxpayer.

[arista]

More wasteful cost to the taxpayer.


He does not care

Johnson must not be a Care Taker

[rusticgal]

Probably thinks a quick election will ensure him a win...:laugh:

[arista]

Probably thinks a quick election will ensure him a win...:laugh:



Could back fire

[thesheriff443]

He’s got a big head literally

[arista]

He’s got a big head literally


Yes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

d3PKE8uTSp8

[arista]

Yes LT Classic.

And T. May Snap Election
was a Mega Error
lost her majority

[Zizu]

Boris Johnson to resign as Tory leader but hopes to stay as PM until autumn !!?!


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[Oliver_W]

Could back fire

It can't backfire, not really - the Tories wouldn't get a bigger majority, and at least a chunk of the Red Wall would probably revert back to Labour, now things have changed since 2019.
The Tories are no longer lead by a "likeable Buffon who'd be fun down the pub"; Labour are no longer lead by someone whose actions and statements were covered in a way to make his party unvoteable for; and Brexit is "done" - a GE around now would have a pretty different result!

[arista]

Starmer will now call for NO Confidence Vote


He will not allow Johnson as Care Taker

[Zizu]

Starmer will now call for NO Confidence Vote


He will not allow Johnson as Care Taker


They may vote a no confidence in Starmer


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[Zizu]

It can't backfire, not really - the Tories wouldn't get a bigger majority, and at least a chunk of the Red Wall would probably revert back to Labour, now things have changed since 2019.
The Tories are no longer lead by a "likeable Buffon who'd be fun down the pub"; Labour are no longer lead by someone whose actions and statements were covered in a way to make his party unvoteable for; and Brexit is "done" - a GE around now would have a pretty different result!


Will the masses vote for a spineless , clueless Starmer though ??


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[bots]

the rumours are that starmer will soon be gone too

[arista]

the rumours are that starmer will soon be gone too



I hope that is true

[hijaxers]

Could back fire

Starmer has no hope , no one likes him and his inane comments, running ound with that Punch and Judy face of his.

[arista]

David Lammy MP
Labour Shadow Foreign
Live on SkyNewsHD


Confirmed next week
a Vote of No Confidence
Starmer will do.

Gives us the Bloody date.


They do not want Johnson as Care Taker until October

[bots]

the tories are never going to vote themselves out of government, so it's a completely pointless threat

[arista]

the tories are never going to vote themselves out of government, so it's a completely pointless threat


Yes Strange they never mention
that

[arista]

The Other Moaner is
John Major

Who also wants Johnson out of Downing St.
now

Is that a Brexit Fight again?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/07/john-major-urges-1922-committee-to-remove-boris-johnson-quickly

[Zizu]

The Other Moaner is
John Major

Who also wants Johnson out of Downing St.
now

Is that a Brexit Fight again?


I wonder if he keeps in touch with Edwina ??

:)


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[arista]

I wonder if he keeps in touch with Edwina ??

:)




No his Wife Bans that

[Oliver_W]

the tories are never going to vote themselves out of government, so it's a completely pointless threat

It might give whoever makes the decisions the incentive to kick him out sooner rather than later though!

[Mystic Mock]

Of course he would.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Will the masses vote for a spineless , clueless Starmer though ??


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Well it depends on how much support the Tories have lost with the general public.

[arista]

the tories are never going to vote themselves out of government, so it's a completely pointless threat



Today Live
he claims many Conservatives will vote with him
like the 50 who resigned?


He did a Rushed Meeting
as he was cleared from Durham Police
some newspapers not there
at the Live TV press talk

[bots]

Today Live
he claims many Conservatives will vote with him
like the 50 who resigned?


He did a Rushed Meeting
as he was cleared from Durham Police
some newspapers not there
at the Live TV press talk

not a chance in hell

[joeysteele]

Hardly surprising.
There won't be one though.

Of course had The Cons been a good number of points ahead in polls then I could have seen Johnson even in the midst of all his scandalous behaviour calling one.

However Labour really has to put much more detail yet to their policies.
Not present just hopes.

[arista]

not a chance in hell


Yes SNP /Labour and some Conservatives


But still he will not give a date?

About 8 days left of Working Parliament Days
then Recess

[bots]

it's completely unrealistic that any tory would vote to put themselves out of government. It's a publicity stunt by labour

[Zizu]

it's completely unrealistic that any tory would vote to put themselves out of government. It's a publicity stunt by labour


That’s what I was wondering


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[joeysteele]

Yes SNP /Labour and some Conservatives


But still he will not give a date?

About 8 days left of Working Parliament Days
then Recess



This isn't the best idea.

However, it will show to the Country at large, just in fact where all the opposition parties are too.
Plus since the Cons have themselves stated no confidence in Johnson, and
while it will be easily defeated, to voters, it could demonstrate the problems with this current Conservative party.

Because in effect the Cons will also be voting to leave this now shamefully disgraced Johnson in place despite them pulling ALL support away from him.
Albeit left in place for a possible 2 to 3 months.

Really the 1922 committee should look for how to remove this creep from being Prime Minister NOW and having a more acceptable transitional administrator PM in place until the new leader is elected.

It will actually help expose further the internal despair in the Cons at present and their continued failure to remove this charletan and lawbreaker at a stroke.

[arista]

[Really the 1922 committee should look for how to remove this creep from being Prime Minister]


But they have
Happy to leave him there
They work Slow
Joey.

[bots]

at the moment the tory party is absolutely stuffed, i don't blame opposition parties for sticking the boot in, they deserve it.

The tories have 2 years to sort themselves out during a cost of living nightmare, they are going to have to be very caring toward the voting public or else they will get wiped out

[The Slim Reaper]

at the moment the tory party is absolutely stuffed, i don't blame opposition parties for sticking the boot in, they deserve it.

The tories have 2 years to sort themselves out during a cost of living nightmare, they are going to have to be very caring toward the voting public or else they will get wiped out

If there's one thing the tories are known for, it's being caring towards voters :laugh:

They'll just blame wokeness and brown people again and the pain that voters have lived through will be forgotten.

[arista]

at the moment the tory party is absolutely stuffed, i don't blame opposition parties for sticking the boot in, they deserve it.

The tories have 2 years to sort themselves out during a cost of living nightmare, they are going to have to be very caring toward the voting public or else they will get wiped out


I think Starmer will Force a General Election
at some point.


Not Sure when.

[bots]

I think Starmer will Force a General Election
at some point.


Not Sure when.

he cant force a general election, it's posturing

[arista]

If there's one thing the tories are known for, it's being caring towards voters :laugh:

They'll just blame wokeness and brown people again and the pain that voters have lived through will be forgotten.


No Slim
no need for that


Starmer does have trouble on what a Women is
though

[The Slim Reaper]

No Slim
no need for that


Starmer does have trouble on what a Women is
though

There you go. Wokeness. :laugh:

[arista]

he cant force a general election, it's posturing


Yes he can not Force one
but there maybe a trick or something
to get one.

[arista]

There you go. Wokeness. :laugh:


No, even his one nice Labour MP says it


Nice Labour MP Rosie Duffield.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ff19447a-bd91-4887-9adf-bdac51229854.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[Alf]

Is that the guy who got on his knees to the political organisation "Black Lives Matter" thinking people care what he thinks?

Well obviously some care but they're crazy.

[arista]

Back in 2010

Take Note Starmer

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXA61gxWIAE6SRB?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1546059468609404928


You Pathetic Labour Women MP

[arista]

The Conservatives are Leaving Johnson PM there
in 10 Downing St.
that is normal.

If you want him out
you are out of luck.



Starmer you Ponce

[joeysteele]

The Conservatives are Leaving Johnson PM there
in 10 Downing St.
that is normal.

If you want him out
you are out of luck.



Starmer you Ponce



Not really.
This PM is disgraced for deceit and lies.
No other PM has acted in power like this one has by abusing his trust even to lawbreaking.

It's not normal at all.

He should be gone NOW.
Every day he stays in any form of being Prime Minister just adds to the disgrace he's brought to the trusted elected office of being so.

[bots]

there is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

[arista]

Not really.
This PM is disgraced for deceit and lies.
No other PM has acted in power like this one has by abusing his trust even to lawbreaking.

It's not normal at all.

He should be gone NOW.
Every day he stays in any form of being Prime Minister just adds to the disgrace he's brought to the trusted elected office of being so.


Yes Joey
you are correct

But this Labour leader
is happy to go Front Page
with a load of bollocks

[arista]

There is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

Very True

[Zizu]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/johnson-sunak-resigns-election-starmer-b2116510.html


He does not want Johnson staying as a Care Taker


Hardly surprising

:)


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[joeysteele]

there is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

I think you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately.

This is what Labour is really pushing for from the newly elected 1922 committee to be elected tomorrow.
I think you'll find they CAN find the way IF they really want to.

They can and do have the greatest influence.
There are Conservative MPs who will be demanding him gone sooner rather than later.

If the 1922 committee don't alter by not holding a members vote for the new leader.
They'll need to look at all and other possible option.

[arista]

"you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately."


Joey that would be great

Raab the Deputy is not in the Race
and could move right in.

[joeysteele]

"you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately."


Joey that would be great

Raab the Deputy is not in the Race
and could move right in.


Yes, I agree.
That's what Labour is hoping to pressure the committee to set out to do.

Raab as Deputy PM is already in place to act in the caretaking role.
It should have been explored on the day all was changing.

[bots]

the tories could just resign from Boris's cabinet again on mass, so that's one option, but i cant imagine a situation where they would give the power to a committee to decide who could and couldnt run the country

[Zizu]

I didn’t think this is a unique situation ..

Isn’t it normal for the PM to stay in situ for about 3 months after resignation to give the party time to choose a replacement ?


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[joeysteele]

the tories could just resign from Boris's cabinet again on mass, so that's one option, but i cant imagine a situation where they would give the power to a committee to decide who could and couldnt run the country

He's only a puppet PM now bots.
It's ludicrous he's left in place.

It's a powerful committee which acts on the will of the backbenchers.

It's even more ludicrous to have current, possibly even temporary Cabinet Ministers.
Now running to be leader and some setting out to tear up the policies of Johnson now.
It seems farcical and ridiculous.

This is NOT a normal dismissing of a leader.
It's that this leader Johnson has thrown out endless deceit and lies to parliament, his Ministers, his MPs and even worse to the whole of the UK.

He should have been gone over this weekend if the Cons hoped to get some decency and credibility back.

This is no way a normal end to a PM's premiership due to his absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

[Zizu]

He's only a puppet PM now bots.
It's ludicrous he's left in place.

It's a powerful committee which acts on the will of the backbenchers.

It's even more ludicrous to have current, possibly even temporary Cabinet Ministers.
Now running to be leader and some setting out to year up the policies of Johnson now.
It seems farcical and ridiculous.

This is NOT a normal dismissing of a leader.
It's that this leader Johnson has thrown out endless deceit and lies to parliament, his Ministers, his MPs and even worse to the whole of the UK.

He should have been gone over this weekend if the Cons hoped to get some decency and credibility back.

This is no way a normal end to a PM's premiership due to his absolutely disgraceful behaviour.


What has he actually done that is so disgraceful , specifically ?


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[joeysteele]

What has he actually done that is so disgraceful , specifically ?


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With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

[Zizu]

With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.


As I understand things , most of his detractors were remainers ... the rest presumably just followed to save face and save their own skins - not wanting to be seen to be loyal to Boris ...

Then when they were asked afterwards who they would like to be PM not a single one of them had the courage to put a name forward as they were all keeping their cards close to their chests ( self preservation) ..

So what specifically do you find so abhorrent about Boris .. that wouldn’t apply to just about every politician you care to name ....

I saw a photo of Boris having a sandwich in a huge garden but there’s a video of Starmer knocking back a beer in a tiny room full of people ..


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[hijaxers]

With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

Bunch of out for themselves back stabbers. So Tory

[joeysteele]

As I understand things , most of his detractors were remainers ... the rest presumably just followed to save face and save their own skins - not wanting to be seen to be loyal to Boris ...

Then when they were asked afterwards who they would like to be PM not a single one of them had the courage to put a name forward as they were all keeping their cards close to their chests ( self preservation) ..

So what specifically do you find so abhorrent about Boris .. that wouldn’t apply to just about every politician you care to name ....

I saw a photo of Boris having a sandwich in a huge garden but there’s a video of Starmer knocking back a beer in a tiny room full of people ..


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I don't know of a single PM who.while in office has been found to have broken the law.
His own law too.

Johnson relaxed the covid rules in April/May 2021 in order to allow campaigning work in the Council, mayoral and Hartlepool by election/s too.
Johnson broke his laws in 2020 during the intense and rigid rules HE laid down for everyone in the Country.
He's a serial political deceiver, liar and a lawbreaker too.

If I was to list all the things I consider bad about Johnson.
I'd be making my.longest ever post on tibb.
So I'll pass on that.

I appreciate you like and support him.
I'll never understand why, just as it seems you don't understand those who don't like or don't support him.

I've NEVER liked him and wouldn't ever have trusted him with power.
My hand is up that I'm biased against him.
I think for his deceit and lies and lawbreaking, for me he is the worst ever PM the UK has had.

However I appreciate of course you see him differently and that of course is fine for you.

[bots]

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense :laugh:

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

[joeysteele]

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense :laugh:

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

I fear you could be worryingly right here.
Which is why it should have been he was ...'made in sorts'... to go right away.

You have raised a possible strong point there.

[Zizu]

I don't know of a single PM who.while in office has been found to have broken the law.
His own law too.

Johnson relaxed the covid rules in April/May 2021 in order to allow campaigning work in the Council, mayoral and Hartlepool by election/s too.
Johnson broke his laws in 2020 during the intense and rigid rules HE laid down for everyone in the Country.
He's a serial political deceiver, liar and a lawbreaker too.

If I was to list all the things I consider bad about Johnson.
I'd be making my.longest ever post on tibb.
So I'll pass on that.

I appreciate you like and support him.
I'll never understand why, just as it seems you don't understand those who don't like or don't support him.

I've NEVER liked him and wouldn't ever have trusted him with power.
My hand is up that I'm biased against him.
I think for his deceit and lies and lawbreaking, for me he is the worst ever PM the UK has had.

However I appreciate of course you see him differently and that of course is fine for you.


No worries ..

I certainly wouldn’t want to fall out over a bladdy politician !!

:)


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[Zizu]

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense :laugh:

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all


A tiny part of me wonders what WOULD happen if hundreds of thousands of Boris supporters actually did go down to London on masse to protest at the way he’s been ousted .. there has been talk about this .


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[Liam-]

I mean, if those people want to make fools of themselves by protesting the ‘ousting’ of a man who knowingly promoted an admitted sex pest through the ranks of the party, then let them knock themselves out if that’s the hill they want to die on

[Zizu]

I mean, if those people want to make fools of themselves by protesting the ‘ousting’ of a man who knowingly promoted an admitted sex pest through the ranks of the party, then let them knock themselves out if that’s the hill they want to die on


They interviewed a group of them the other night on Sky - they all looked well over 50 and were delighted that Boris delivered Brexit and feel that there voice / vote / opinion is being discounted

One guy actually said something like .. “ 13 million of us voted for Boris .. how dare they just force him out of office ! “


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[arista]

Starmer is Now Live SkyNewsHD



Gateshead

[arista]

Live taking Starmer Questions


BBC attacking him
first question


Liz Bates SkyNewsHD asks him about Rishi
should they ban him as he was fined etc.

Starmer says yes

[arista]

Starmer has a Point
as Conservative Tom would not say
how he will fund the Tax Cuts.


He has Finished
once again loads of Press missing.

Starmer looks on his list
says "Liz Bates"

Liz says I spoke to you


Starmer then said, sorry
and left.


Only on SkyNewsHD

GBNewsHD showed half of it

[Zizu]

Starmer has a Point
as Conservative Tom would not say
how he will fund the Tax Cuts.


He has Finished
once again loads of Press missing.

Starmer looks on his list
says "Liz Bates"

Liz says I spoke to you


Starmer then said, sorry
and left.


Only on SkyNewsHD

GBNewsHD showed half of it


Is he losing his grip already ?

:)


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[arista]

Labour MP Live was on the Green


Smiling
She said call a General Election


Rachel Reeves MP




BBCnewsHD

[arista]

Is he losing his grip already ?

:)




No, but he needs his Manager
to check what press are Present,

Just before he starts



2nd Time Starmer calling names
of Papers and TV Professionals

NOT THERE,



Liz Bates said School children
took the empty seats

[arista]

[Labour to push for no confidence vote in government
after Boris Johnson's downfall

The party hopes to secure a vote in the
Commons on Wednesday to oust the prime minister
from his caretaker position in Number 10.]

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-to-host-first-tory-leadership-debate-12649648

[bots]

zero chance of success as i said before, it's a publicity stunt

[arista]

zero chance of success as i said before, it's a publicity stunt


Yes he has the SNP
backing it
and no more.



Wednesday Conservative race
gets smaller


PMQ's?

[joeysteele]

It will be interesting to show the voters just where all parties are.
If the Lib Dems and ALL other so called opposition parties don't back this.
That will speak volumes about them.

Plus highlight the hypocrisy of the Cons to the voters too.
To leave this odious PM in place for another 2 months at least.

[arista]

It will be interesting to show the voters just where all parties are.
If the Lib Dems and ALL other so called opposition parties don't back this.
That will speak volumes about them.

Plus highlight the hypocrisy of the Cons to the voters too.
To leave this odious PM in place for another 2 months at least.


I assume the 13 LibDems
will back Starmer

[bots]

the snp will all vote with labour too, it's not exactly a surprise

[joeysteele]

I assume the 13 LibDems
will back Starmer

I wouldn't be too sure of that arista

I'm still suspicious of some of the Lib Dems.
Their leader was a Minister in the coalition and he voted for humiliating policies against the sick and disabled.
Among many broken other promises as to his word too.

I am very interested to see just what the Lib Dems vote in any vote of confidence.

Even more interested to see exactly where the DUP put their votes too.

It may well be soundly defeated but quite a bit to learn about all the other Parties possibly from it for me.

[bots]

Boris Johnson's government is refusing to allow time to debate a vote of no confidence in the prime minister, Labour says.

The party tabled the motion in Parliament earlier, with the aim of challenging Conservative MPs to oust the prime minister as they simultaneously hold a leadership contest.

Labour wanted to hold the vote tomorrow, but the party says the government won't allow it to go ahead.

Downing Street says confidence votes are conventionally held in governments and not individuals, such as prime ministers.

"This is totally unprecedented," a Labour spokesperson says. "Yet again the Tories are changing the rules to protect their own dodgy mates.

"All the Tory leadership candidates should denounce this flagrant abuse of power to protect a discredited prime minister.”

In a statement, a government spokesperson said: “We have given Labour the option to table a straightforward vote of no confidence in the government.

"They have chosen to play politics by tabling a vote of no confidence in the government and the prime minister."

[Zizu]

Pretty sure Boris doesn’t have to dance to Starmer’s tune


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[joeysteele]

Boris Johnson's government is refusing to allow time to debate a vote of no confidence in the prime minister, Labour says.

The party tabled the motion in Parliament earlier, with the aim of challenging Conservative MPs to oust the prime minister as they simultaneously hold a leadership contest.

Labour wanted to hold the vote tomorrow, but the party says the government won't allow it to go ahead.

Downing Street says confidence votes are conventionally held in governments and not individuals, such as prime ministers.

"This is totally unprecedented," a Labour spokesperson says. "Yet again the Tories are changing the rules to protect their own dodgy mates.

"All the Tory leadership candidates should denounce this flagrant abuse of power to protect a discredited prime minister.”

In a statement, a government spokesperson said: “We have given Labour the option to table a straightforward vote of no confidence in the government.

"They have chosen to play politics by tabling a vote of no confidence in the government and the prime minister."


It would have been intetesting, for me certainly anyhow.
To have seen what result a no vote of confidence in Johnson to lead the or A government, would have been.

I can't see the Cons objections to this since they do have deputy PM Raab fully able to do the caretaker role.

With this odious and his reputation in tatters PM put out to grass.
Right away.

[Zizu]

Why on earth would the Tories agree to a general election when they can remain in power until next summer or is it 2024 ??


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[arista]

Why on earth would the Tories agree to a general election when they can remain in power until next summer or is it 2024 ??




Yes they are going to block it.


Appears to be a Failed attempt by Cocky Starmer

[hijaxers]

Yes they are going to block it.


Appears to be a Failed attempt by Cocky Starmer

Great now crawl back down your hole Starmer, boring everyone to death Mr Mono.

[hijaxers]

Poll on Tory party members site ~ things not looking good for Sunak ,i'm pleased as he's a masive huge no no for me.

[The Slim Reaper]

Why centrism is dangerous, and centrists are useless.

1546983054727602176

[bots]

yeah ... let's have more extremism, that's always worked so well

[The Slim Reaper]

yeah ... let's have more extremism, that's always worked so well

You do realise that extremism isn't the only other option? We're talking about trying to feed children in poverty through a CoL crisis. If you don't support that, then you need to have a think about whether you're the extremist.

[bots]

Captain Snoozefest :hehe: