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Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2022, 08:03 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2022, 08:12 PM
BASED ON....

Zizu
14-07-2022, 08:18 PM
I hadn’t even noticed till it was mentioned


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Redway
14-07-2022, 08:18 PM
I hate racism but I also hate stock tokenism. People are fundamentally people.

Redway
14-07-2022, 08:20 PM
Why are some people so obsessed with making everything about skin colour?

bots
14-07-2022, 08:24 PM
i think its not the job of the bbc to be making that observation. Stick to the sport

Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2022, 08:40 PM
7 of rangers first team are poc

scotland is 99.9% white

are we too blacK?

this dreadful woke presenter has form

UserSince2005
14-07-2022, 09:23 PM
A few more white and we might have won the penalty shoot out. Let’s be real.

Cherie
14-07-2022, 09:24 PM
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:facepalm:

rusticgal
14-07-2022, 10:38 PM
This is where things become ridiculous…

rusticgal
14-07-2022, 10:41 PM
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Absurd…

Redway
15-07-2022, 12:47 AM
It’s a pity this thread had to be made by the person it was made by but bait or no bait he has a point this particular time around.

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 01:50 AM
Is there a full clip of this instead of a cherry picked 20 seconds?? sounds like it was leading in to a segment regarding the matter rather than an off the cuff remark...

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 02:01 AM
Looks like it was a promotion for this documentary

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Redway
15-07-2022, 05:06 AM
Where have you been all these years?

Redway
15-07-2022, 05:07 AM
Or did you legit. return a while back and I just didn’t notice?

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 07:03 AM
so we have to watch a whole ("one" woman's opinion) documentary before we can decode what this woman has said?

sure

bots
15-07-2022, 07:09 AM
i don't see how any further context is necessary in this case. She made an observation. If i said there are 2 pigeons on my roof, what further context is needed to explain the occurrence

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 07:16 AM
LT you don't even watch women's football, so why create this thread?

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 07:46 AM
i don't see how any further context is necessary in this case. She made an observation. If i said there are 2 pigeons on my roof, what further context is needed to explain the occurrence

the context would explain why she was on the topic but not the observation made and made as a criticism as if racism was wholly responsible

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 07:47 AM
LT you don't even watch women's football, so why create this thread?

is it in the football section?

Cherie
15-07-2022, 07:52 AM
whatever the context, the bottom line is she said the words ......'too white'

some people seem quite happy to have double standards though

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 08:06 AM
https://www.arsenal.com/sites/default/files/styles/desktop_16x9/public/images/Netherlands%20women.jpg?itok=epmR-9k4

yeah so?


our team has a strong ethnic variety though also among ''white'' players

two of our strongest talents as well

Victoria Pelova = bulgarian descent

Damaris Egurrola = half dutch, born in america, half basque




the POC in that photo isn't with the squad currently, van der sande, but more because she is not good enough quality for his desired match tactics according to Parsons (hypocrite when selecting Beerensteyn whom is like a cement brick and zero technical skill, don't know how she ever played for top team Juventus and now signed with Chelsea)

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 08:14 AM
there isn't a thing as ''too white'' or ''too black''


players get selected for national teams if they fit in well into the managers preferred squad tactics



but sadly some get preferences based on superstar appeal no matter what form they are in (at men Lionel Messi whom is crap for argentina but yeah name advantages :facepalm: and here at womens Lieke Martens even in this horrendous current form still makes starting 11s because she is the female messi or ronaldo :facepalm:)


one of our PSV talents, Esmee Brugts made her debut actually coming in for Martens in 80th minute against Portugal, but would've loved it more if she got in for Martens from begin of second half

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/zUFqiGjPXjkQhEiCEE5KAErQw1U/diocontent/218944622/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8

one of our strongest assets of last eredivisie season (which says something about so called veterans Sari van Veenendaal whom absolutely was a horror to watch in goal, no loss now at euros for sure lol)

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 09:33 AM
whatever the context, the bottom line is she said the words ......'too white'

some people seem quite happy to have double standards though

She never said "too white" at all, she said the team was all white.

thesheriff443
15-07-2022, 09:43 AM
Women are crap at football.

bots
15-07-2022, 09:45 AM
all white is actually a stronger assertion than too white

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 09:55 AM
how many white players are in African women teams?

like say Zambia and NIgeria..


oh

https://assets.goal.com/v3/assets/bltcc7a7ffd2fbf71f5/blt4cad2ed18d4a25ba/60daf5c547339c0fc01a0254/bc626f62190ccfdf545bb3b4bf3c3a84c9f43863.jpghttps://shepolopolo.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/cropped-fb_img_1541500900439.jpg

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 09:59 AM
all white is actually a stronger assertion than too white

How do you come to that conclusion?

Highlighting that the team was all white in relation to a documentary that touches on a lack of diversity (by a black female footballer with first hand knowledge) is a compeltely different context to the clickbait articles making it sound like it was an attack on poor downtrodden white people.

Liam-
15-07-2022, 10:04 AM
You mean a comment was taken out of context to stir up hatred and pretend that white people are being victimised? I am honestly shocked

rusticgal
15-07-2022, 10:21 AM
LT you don't even watch women's football, so why create this thread?

He isnt talking about Football though is he...he is talking about the comment someone made about the diversity of the team :shrug:

rusticgal
15-07-2022, 10:25 AM
You mean a comment was taken out of context to stir up hatred......


This is not a thread about Meghan...

Liam-
15-07-2022, 10:26 AM
This is not a thread about Meghan...

What?.. You’re actually obsessed, seek help

bots
15-07-2022, 10:28 AM
How do you come to that conclusion?


From the words spoken, it's pretty straightforward

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 10:28 AM
Glastonbury was "too white" as well as i recall...


lol

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 10:30 AM
From the words spoken, it's pretty straightforward

No you just misconstrued what she was saying because right wing media baited you in.

rusticgal
15-07-2022, 10:57 AM
What?.. You’re actually obsessed, seek help


...maybe you need to seek a sense of humour :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 11:15 AM
Now being debated live on LBC

Mystic Mock
15-07-2022, 11:54 AM
I hate racism but I also hate stock tokenism. People are fundamentally people.

This.

It's like a new form of OCD at this point where a number white, black & Asian people all have to have an equal amount as each other taking part in the same thing.

Like my God things like That's So Raven on TV for example would not be allowed to be made exactly like it was in today's climate.

And going back to Football, countries can only select from a limited pool of choices, and for some countries (like Japan for example) where the country doesn't really have much choice other than to pick Asian players.

But I do agree with you Redway 100% with this post.

Mystic Mock
15-07-2022, 12:09 PM
You mean a comment was taken out of context to stir up hatred and pretend that white people are being victimised? I am honestly shocked

After reading up more on this particular incident I can see where you're coming from.

Admittedly though there are people that want to force diversity into everything even if it might make a weaker in this case Football team.

Because to me I honestly don't care if England came out with an all black team if it's producing us with good results.

Imo everyone should have an equal opportunity, but ultimately we should picking who's best for the team, and considering 85% of England is white, it is more than likely gonna mean that England is mostly a white National team.

I get that the Documentary is probably highlighting racism during Alex Scott's time in Football though, which honestly should not be happening in a Sport where everyone is meant to unite as a community, because ultimately destroys that goal.

Cherie
15-07-2022, 12:11 PM
The ladies are in the quarter finals, and just beat Norway 8 -0 enough said

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 12:36 PM
The ladies are in the quarter finals, and just beat Norway 8 -0 enough said

against one who recently won the ballon d'or feminine must be mentioned as well

Ada Hegerberg whom is a really good player


so that 8-0 is a stunning win for sure

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 12:43 PM
The ladies are in the quarter finals, and just beat Norway 8 -0 enough said

who have the vile racist white supremacists playing in the quarter finals?

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 12:47 PM
who have the vile racist white supremacists playing in the quarter finals?

we don't know that yet

that is either Spain or Denmark

rusticgal
15-07-2022, 12:50 PM
who have the vile racist white supremacists playing in the quarter finals?



:laugh:

Swan
15-07-2022, 01:00 PM
She never said "too white" at all, she said the team was all white.

So what if it is though, why even mention that, why does it even matter?

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 01:03 PM
So what if it is though, why even mention that, why does it even matter?

well look at the colour of the home shirts, white (same how Real Madrid got the Majestic White shirts)



same how new zealand call themselves the All-Blacks and they happen to play in black shirts

Swan
15-07-2022, 01:10 PM
Fact of the matter is, if you're good at football, your race wont come into it, you'll be playing. Winning is EVERYTHING.

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 01:15 PM
Fact of the matter is, if you're good at football, your race wont come into it, you'll be playing. Winning is EVERYTHING.

absolutely spot on


goes for every team sport i think

Mystic Mock
15-07-2022, 01:50 PM
Women are crap at football.

I think that's harsh.

Blues women are **** Footballers though, they couldn't even finish above Leicester or Villa fgs, and they're much smaller teams in women's Football.:joker:

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 02:16 PM
So what if it is though, why even mention that, why does it even matter?

Take it up with the black footballer that made the documentary if you don't like diversity being discussed :shrug: the woman being attacked in this clip was just promoting that show as it's her job.

Oliver_W
15-07-2022, 02:25 PM
Why does it even need to be said? What does moaning about players' skin colours achieve?

Swan
15-07-2022, 02:26 PM
Take it up with the black footballer that made the documentary if you don't like diversity being discussed :shrug: the woman being attacked in this clip was just promoting that show as it's her job.

So do you think black people should be chosen by football teams to play because they are black, or?

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 02:37 PM
she recently walked out of the Scottish Football Writers awards as she "did not like" some of the jokes the host made...

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/the-homophobic-p-jokes-and-sexism-which-caused-women-to-walk-out-of-scottish-football-awards/291835

Beso
15-07-2022, 02:38 PM
I'd be disgusted if I was a pity pick.

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 02:54 PM
So do you think black people should be chosen by football teams to play because they are black, or?

What makes you think that was the point being made, have you watched the documentary?

Cherie
15-07-2022, 03:02 PM
some of it is cultural as well, some families from ethnic minorities will not want their daughters running around in a pair of shorts

Cherie
15-07-2022, 03:03 PM
why aren't there questions about the lack of Asian men in football

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 03:08 PM
DAN WOOTTON: No wonder we're turning off the woke BBC in our droves when
they're using our brilliant football Lionesses to stoke racial divisions, while their
own Gary Lineker-topped First XI rich list remains exclusively white

https://image.gbnews.uk/298952.jpg?imageId=298952&panox=0&panoy=0&panow=100&panoh=100&heighty=0&heightx=0&heightw=100&heighth=100&width=453&height=261

Rather than celebrating the record-breaking victory against Norway, during
its ultra-woke coverage of the Women's Euro 2022 the next night, ashen-
faced presenter Eilidh Barbour declared soberly: 'It was an historic eight goal
victory for England last night as the Lionesses secured their place in the
quarter finals – but all starting 11 players and the five substitutes that came
on to the pitch were all white. And that does point towards a lack of
diversity in the women's game in England.'

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More disgraceful and unnecessary race baiting from the BBC, doing more than any other organisation to stoke division.<br>No wonder more and more folk want to defund it. <br>PS: The BBC this week unveiled an entirely white top ten rich list of its own presenters!<a href="https://t.co/IBQE3PXaUp">pic.twitter.com/IBQE3PXaUp</a></p>&mdash; Dan Wootton (@danwootton) <a href="https://twitter.com/danwootton/status/1547530123427151872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11014669/DAN-WOOTTON-Woke-BBC-using-brilliant-football-Lionesses-stoke-racial-divisions.html

Cherie
15-07-2022, 03:15 PM
No wonder more and more folk want to defund it.
PS: The BBC this week unveiled an entirely white top ten rich list of its own presenters!

lol

Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2022, 03:27 PM
Here are the BBC board of Governors

https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/whoweare/bbcboard

:skull:

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 03:37 PM
well at least no elderly discrimination at the BBC


unlike at my nation's tv channels, when ur 60+ you have to retire over here if you like it or not

Jordan.
15-07-2022, 03:38 PM
some of it is cultural as well, some families from ethnic minorities will not want their daughters running around in a pair of shorts

Could well be, Bend it like Beckham made a movie about it. I haven't watched the documentary yet so don't know the conclusion of her investigation but I imagine this will be a talking point.

Nicky91
15-07-2022, 03:41 PM
why aren't there questions about the lack of Asian men in football

:umm2:

no


and asian teams have done well in top level tbh, South Korea for one in 2002, to everyone's surprise a deep run at world cup, thanks to miracle worker Guus Hiddink, for whom they built a statue

with stars like Young-Pyo Lee, Ji-Sung Park whom had decent careers afterwards in europe :)

Cherie
15-07-2022, 04:40 PM
:umm2:

no


and asian teams have done well in top level tbh, South Korea for one in 2002, to everyone's surprise a deep run at world cup, thanks to miracle worker Guus Hiddink, for whom they built a statue

with stars like Young-Pyo Lee, Ji-Sung Park whom had decent careers afterwards in europe :)

In English men’s football team I meant