American Mid Term Elections

[bots]

This should have it's own thread....

The United States will hold its midterm elections on 8 November 2022. They will shape the second half of Joe Biden’s term as president and, ultimately, the country.

Members of the House of Representatives run for re-election every two years, so all 435 House seats are up for election. Thirty-five Senate seats are, too (senators hold their positions for six years). There are also numerous gubernatorial election and local elections, too.

At the moment, the Democrats control the House: they hold 221 seats to the Republicans’ 208. (Six seats are vacant.) The Senate is equally split, with 50 members from each party. Kamala Harris, the vice-president, has a tiebreaker vote so the Democrats are nominally in control.

If Democrats lose the House, they will find it even more difficult to pass legislation than they do now. And they’re having a hard time — on voting rights, on climate change, on reproductive rights and on gun control — already. The Biden agenda will be more stalled than it already is.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYWKCq5WIAEDBEN?format=jpg&name=900x900

[The Slim Reaper]

Trump is in a lot of trouble. Surprised that for such a news consumer, Arista hasn't made a Jan 6th hearings thread for some reason :laugh:

[arista]

Trump is in a lot of trouble. Surprised that for such a news consumer, Arista hasn't made a Jan 6th hearings thread for some reason :laugh:


Its going on too long.
No achieving a conclusion.


Meanwhile, the November Mid Term Elections
become a reflection of Biden's lack of power.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Ron_DeSantis_2020_%28cropped%29.jpg

[arista]

Yes, Ron is doing well in Florida.

Some want him to run for President

[Zizu]

Yes, Ron is doing well in Florida.

Some want him to run for President


Ron Atkinson ?

:)


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[arista]

Ron DeSantis
Florida Politician.

[The Slim Reaper]

Ron Atkinson ?

:)


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Even he isn't racist enough for Florida.

[Oliver_W]

Trump is in a lot of trouble.

Is he though? Even the most bouncy of Kangaroo Courts would find themselves hard-pressed to really tie Trump directly to the Jan6 riot. The most you could say is a bunch of idiots chose to interpret his words as a direct instruction. Even if he was involved more than it appears, of which I certainly wouldn't discount the possibility, there's not enough actual evidence (that I know of) to put him in real trouble.

[bots]

Is he though? Even the most bouncy of Kangaroo Courts would find themselves hard-pressed to really tie Trump directly to the Jan6 riot. The most you could say is a bunch of idiots chose to interpret his words as a direct instruction. Even if he was involved more than it appears, of which I certainly wouldn't discount the possibility, there's not enough actual evidence (that I know of) to put him in real trouble.

have you not been listening to the hearings? That's direct evidence

[The Slim Reaper]

Is he though? Even the most bouncy of Kangaroo Courts would find themselves hard-pressed to really tie Trump directly to the Jan6 riot. The most you could say is a bunch of idiots chose to interpret his words as a direct instruction. Even if he was involved more than it appears, of which I certainly wouldn't discount the possibility, there's not enough actual evidence (that I know of) to put him in real trouble.

Have you watched any of the hearings? Trumps closest advisors have all basically been saying that it was planned well in advance.

He'll probably get away with it because rich people always do, but it's gone well beyond trying to prosecute free speech through interpretation as you suggest.

[bots]

Have you watched any of the hearings? Trumps closest advisors have all basically been saying that it was planned well in advance.

He'll probably get away with it because rich people always do, but it's gone well beyond trying to prosecute free speech through interpretation as you suggest.

even his own family have trashed him :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

have you not been listening to the hearings? That's direct evidence

Have you watched any of the hearings? Trumps closest advisors have all basically been saying that it was planned well in advance.

He'll probably get away with it because rich people always do, but it's gone well beyond trying to prosecute free speech through interpretation as you suggest.

Oops :joker: last I heard it was all just reaching, the only real "evidence" was the tweets.

But if both of you say basically the same thing, maybe there is something there :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

even his own family have trashed him :laugh:

The hearings have been great entertainment value all round, like Josh Hawley egging on the rabble, then they showed CCTV of him legging it :laugh:

[bots]

1 week to go and the GoP are getting more and more confident

[arista]

[Fetterman supporters voice concern that debate performance
will sway undecided voters]

Crazy this Democrat had a Stroke
they left him in the race?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/politics/john-fetterman-oz-debate-pa-senate-stroke/index.html

[bots]

Oprah came out in support of him apparently

[arista]

Oprah came out in support of him apparently


Yes she supports all the Democrats

[Liam-]

His opponent is literally a puppy killer as well

[bots]

The White House says President Joe Biden did not mean to offend workers in the coal industry after he called for coal plants across the US to be shuttered.

At an event in California on Friday, Biden said: "We’re going to be shutting these plants down all across America and having wind and solar also providing tax credit to help families buy energy-efficient appliances."

The statement drew sharp criticism from fellow Democrat and West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, who said Biden's remarks were "outrageous and divorced from reality."

“Comments like these are the reason the American people are losing trust in President Biden," Manchin said.

In a statement on Saturday, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Biden's remarks "have been twisted to suggest a meaning that was not intended".

“President Biden knows that the men and women of coal country built this nation: they powered its steel mills and factories, kept its homes and schools and offices warm,” Jean-Pierre said.

"He regrets it if anyone hearing these remarks took offense."

-----------------------------------------

He still meant what he said :laugh:

[bots]

Election day has arrived. Currently, the republicans are set to take control of the house and on the balance of probabilities, likely to control the senate too. This will have a profound impact on the country. It will basically kill the Biden presidency stone dead. Abortion rights will bite the dust permanently, green energy will be kicked in to touch. Healthcare and pension will nose dive, and those are just the tip of the iceberg :laugh:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/08/07/64300447-0-image-a-1_1667892401186.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11401095/MAUREEN-CALLAHAN-gives-compelling-view-midterms.html

[bots]

the parties have spent more than $6 billion between them in TV ads this election

[bots]

Over in Pennsylvania, Doug Mastriano is one of the best examples of a candidate backed by a new religious right that some claim are driven by the idea of Christian Nationalism.

He's a Pennsylvania senator running for governor who’s championed the false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. For the midterms, he’s campaigning as a Christian warrior fighting for conservative Christian values.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/11/8/aca08966-dcb2-449e-a286-71e62474cca4.jpg

He casts himself and his followers as God's chosen people who must take back the country. Mastriano is supported by a revivalist movement of self-proclaimed prophets and apostles.

One of them, Julie Green, says God gave her a prophecy that this was Mastriano’s time and that he should move forward with the plan he’d been given for the "great steal" to be overturned.

At a campaign event, she told me God wanted Mastriano to save Pennsylvania from its unjust laws. Several voters I met there said they believed Mastriano had been appointed by God.

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and people think trump is bad :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Could well be the beginning of the end of American democracy over the next 48 hours, so pretty significant for those with even a minor interest in history.

[bots]

i'm switching between cnn, fox news and msnbc and they all voice similar sentiment and none of them can call the result

[Crimson Dynamo]

mon the Elephant

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.foxnews.com/

[Liam-]

Be prepared for the republicans to shout fraud when the early voting ballots start being counted

[Swan]

I have no work for the next 3 days, will stay up watching this tonight.

[Oliver_W]

Could well be the beginning of the end of American democracy over the next 48 hours, so pretty significant for those with even a minor interest in history.

How's that, you expecting some rigging?

[The Slim Reaper]

How's that, you expecting some rigging?

If Republicans win, then they will not certify any other candidate but whomever is the republican on the ticket for president in 2024. Basically what they tried to do last time, but they've spent the last 2 years putting election deniers into election overseers posts, and now they'll hold the power to be able to do it successfully.

Not expecting these elections to be rigged (whichever side wins), but this could be the last elections that are relevant over there for a while.

[bots]

How's that, you expecting some rigging?

the gop are likely to control the house and have a strong chance of capturing the senate. They will make gains in governorships across states which means they set the voting rules and certify the results of the next presidential election in those states. Of the >300 candidates they are putting up for election in the house, more than 200 of them are election result deniers.

[Mystic Mock]

Could well be the beginning of the end of American democracy over the next 48 hours, so pretty significant for those with even a minor interest in history.

Well according to some Americans they don't need democracy apparently.

This was of course after Trump lost the General Election.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c2e8708d-56be-41e1-8492-6c7f743efd08.jpeg

[arista]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Stacey_Abrams_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/440px-Stacey_Abrams_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

2nd time this woman has lost

Stacey Abrams
needs to understand
Many Democrats do not like her

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/08/politics/brian-kemp-stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-results/index.html

[bots]

Fetterman projected winner of PA

[bots]

the dems are doing better than expected for a mid term, so that bodes well for the next presidential election

[Mystic Mock]

the dems are doing better than expected for a mid term, so that bodes well for the next presidential election

It's gonna take a lot of effort for Republicans to win back the groups of voters that they've lost after January 6th imo.

A lot of Americans pride themselves on being a democratic society, those people will take a senile leader over a Party that once threatened their democracy.

Tbh I am shocked at how quick some of the voters have been to forgive the Republicans.

[bots]

Republican Chuck Grassley got re-elected to the senate, he is 90 years old :crazy:

[Oliver_W]

It's gonna take a lot of effort for Republicans to win back the groups of voters that they've lost after January 6th imo.

A lot of Americans pride themselves on being a democratic society, those people will take a senile leader over a Party that once threatened their democracy.

Tbh I am shocked at how quick some of the voters have been to forgive the Republicans.

When it comes to mainstream Republicans, there's nothing to forgive. A bunch of Trumptards got high on their own farts and ran around a government building. That didn't represent the party as a whole.

[Oliver_W]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Stacey_Abrams_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/440px-Stacey_Abrams_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

2nd time this woman has lost

Stacey Abrams
needs to understand
Many Democrats do not like her

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/08/politics/brian-kemp-stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-results/index.html
Isn't she the crackpot who refused to concede last time she lost?

[Liam-]

A monumentally embarrassing result for the republicans

[arista]

Isn't she the crackpot who refused to concede last time she lost?


Yes
that why it is Good she lost
Again.


Democrats were stupid to allow her to run again.

[The Slim Reaper]

Isn't she the crackpot who refused to concede last time she lost?

Except she conceded last time and this time, without any crackpottery. Georgia has been kicking black people off election rolls, so her platform was to restore voting rights. Whichever way you spin it, that is a fairly mainstream ambition.

[bots]

Except she conceded last time and this time, without any crackpottery. Georgia has been kicking black people off election rolls, so her platform was to restore voting rights. Whichever way you spin it, that is a fairly mainstream ambition.

also Kemp, the guy that won, was the main man that had the balls to stand up to trump and certify the vote, he will have earned respect for that

[The Slim Reaper]

also Kemp, the guy that won, was the main man that had the balls to stand up to trump and certify the vote, he will have earned respect for that

Good and fair point.

[Oliver_W]

Except she conceded last time and this time, without any crackpottery. Georgia has been kicking black people off election rolls, so her platform was to restore voting rights. Whichever way you spin it, that is a fairly mainstream ambition.

As far as I know she never conceded for the 2018 vote? As of January she still hadn't (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-revealing-choice-of-who-is-labeled-a-hero-of-democracy/).

[bots]

the danger will come if the republicans win the house with a small majority, because then that qanon women will have too much influence

[The Slim Reaper]

As far as I know she never conceded for the 2018 vote? As of January she still hadn't (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-revealing-choice-of-who-is-labeled-a-hero-of-democracy/).

Her issue was not the fact that she lost, but the fact that 1m black people had been kicked off the voting register by the republican sec of state, and the fact that even the people turning up were denied their votes.

T786roNzsoc

[Oliver_W]

the danger will come if the republicans win the house with a small majority, because then that qanon women will have too much influence

From what little I've heard, most projections point to a house majority for the Reps, and close to 50/50 for the Senate?

[bots]

From what little I've heard, most projections point to a house majority for the Reps, and close to 50/50 for the Senate?

yes, but the majority could be very small, ie less than 10 and that gives the extremists a loud voice. It was the same last term with the progressive left having too much influence

[The Slim Reaper]

yes, but the majority could be very small, ie less than 10 and that gives the extremists a loud voice. It was the same last term with the progressive left having too much influence

This is just factually incorrect. The progressive left has been shafted. The whole power of the US government was put in the hands of 2 conservative senators - Manchin and Sinema.

Weird thing to make up there, bots.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhD6MyNWAAMVjye?format=jpg&name=small

[Swan]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/07/00/5859378-6359217-image-m-33_1541550144735.jpg

[bots]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhD6MyNWAAMVjye?format=jpg&name=small

i didnt realise Piers Morgan was on the ballot

[The Slim Reaper]

i didnt realise Piers Morgan was on the ballot

A Morgan/Daily mail columnist ticket would be hilarious.

[bots]

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Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

He also threatened to release unflattering information about the 44-year-old, without providing details.

Mr DeSantis won a landslide victory in Tuesday's midterms, underlining his popularity and further fuelling speculation he will launch a bid.

Mr Trump is also tipped to announce a presidential run in the coming days.

He told US network Fox News that the Florida governor should stay out of the race.

"I don't know if he is running. I think if he runs, he could hurt himself very badly. I really believe he could hurt himself badly," Mr Trump said. "I don't think it would be good for the party."

Mr DeSantis is considered by many to be the most likely candidate to supplant Mr Trump as the Republican candidate to run for president in 2024.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63563862

[The Slim Reaper]

The heads I win, tails you lose methodology.

1590105710440112128

[The Slim Reaper]

Fox discovers maths!

1590316149547229184

[arista]

US Senate at this hour

49 Republicans
48 Democrats

a few more votes to go.

[bots]

it's still 48/48 on every news source i'm watching

[arista]

Its CNN HD that has 49/48


Also on Late ITV1HD News

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8c637177-6262-49eb-abc0-527e89008cd2.jpeg

[Mystic Mock]

The heads I win, tails you lose methodology.

1590105710440112128

I love it.:joker:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/10/12/64405527-0-image-m-16_1668084759086.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11411649/Knives-Toxic-Trump-Republicans-brand-disaster.html

[bots]

Trump is blaming his wife for the failures of those he endorsed :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/10/10/64394893-11411649-This_comes_after_the_Post_piled_on_the_plaudits_fo r_Governor_DeS-a-39_1668075304941.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

Imagine being in love with trump one day, then ron the next

https://media.tenor.com/KDu5NkAE8i4AAAAC/chrisbrown-breezy.gif

[GoldHeart]

I don't know much about Desantis, but he seems more human than Trump and alot stronger. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the public over .

[Liam-]

Desantis is everything Trump thought he could be, trump had the bark, Ron has the bite and is just as cruel and bigoted as Trump portrayed himself as, it’s just that Ron actually enjoys politics and will try and get these horrible things done unlike the great pretender

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/11/desantiss-covid-gamble-paid-off/672063/


DeSantis takes every chance to hammer home the idea of Florida as the
“nation’s citadel of freedom,” as he put it in a campaign stump speech in
Melbourne last week. That allows him to champion his own state against a
range of opponents defined by geography and referenced by name: crime-
ridden blue cities such as San Francisco, the piously pro-immigration liberals
of Martha’s Vineyard, the “elites” in Washington, D.C.


In the governor’s narrative of the coronavirus, the people of Florida did not
ower at home or tentatively venture outside in masks, nor did they labor
under vaccine mandates as new variants spread across the country. No, they
ere free. Free to support their family. Free to attend school. Free to run a
usiness. Free from the constraints of fogged glasses and not being able to
nlock their iPhone.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/qu3mG2QHi6Bgo2b29_fZ9tXxI9A=/0x0:4800x2700/976x549/media/img/mt/2022/11/Desantis_Covid_01/original.jpg

[Alf]

Trump is blaming his wife for the failures of those he endorsed :joker:Eh?

Trumps picks were 200+ wins with only 16 losses. 95%win rate from his picks.

You continue to listen to the MSM. You never learn. They can give you their bullsh!t again and again and you'll continue to go back to them.


Get em' Donnie!

[The Slim Reaper]

Eh?

Trumps picks were 200+ wins with only 16 losses. 95%win rate from his picks.

You continue to listen to the MSM. You never learn. They can give you their bullsh!t again and again and you'll continue to go back to them.


Get em' Donnie!

Good to see you compadre, but you know this isn't true.

[Mystic Mock]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/10/12/64405527-0-image-m-16_1668084759086.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11411649/Knives-Toxic-Trump-Republicans-brand-disaster.html

Let's hope so.

[joeysteele]

Let's hope so.

Absolutely.
I hope it is too.

[GoldHeart]

Let's hope so.

Same

[bots]

The Dems won the senate race in Arizona, It's now 49 each with 2 results remaining. The dems need 1 of those two to retain control of the senate

[MTVN]

The Republicans were further ahead in Nevada but there's now only 0.1% in it apparently, I expect the Democrats will end up winning it which will make Georgia's run off redundant

The length of time it's taking to count the votes is a joke though and doesn't help build trust in the electoral process

[Oliver_W]

The Republicans were further ahead in Nevada but there's now only 0.1% in it apparently, I expect the Democrats will end up winning it which will make Georgia's run off redundant

The length of time it's taking to count the votes is a joke though and doesn't help build trust in the electoral process

Maybe another box of postal votes "was found" at the last moment :hehe:

[bots]

Maybe another box of postal votes "was found" at the last moment :hehe:

they have always been dealing with a definitive set of results, the exception being postal votes that arrive up to the deadline. That is part of state law, that the republicans were responsible for :laugh:

The other thing worth noting is that the dems do well in the postal voting purely because trump told the gop voters to vote in person and never use postal voting :laugh: So basically he has kicked out all the aging republicans from voting who cant make it to a polling station

[Oliver_W]

they have always been dealing with a definitive set of results, the exception being postal votes that arrive up to the deadline. That is part of state law, that the republicans were responsible for [emoji23]

The other thing worth noting is that the dems do well in the postal voting purely because trump told the gop voters to vote in person and never use postal voting [emoji23] So basically he has kicked out all the aging republicans from voting who cant make it to a polling stationI wasn't being entirely serious ;) that said, a good rule of thumb is just not to trust any politicians, and if a sudden and unexpected change seems fishy, it probably is.

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[bots]

I wasn't being entirely serious ;) that said, a good rule of thumb is just not to trust any politicians, and if a sudden and unexpected change seems fishy, it probably is.

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the point is that it isn't a sudden change, and it's operation is enshrined in state law. There have been no objections raised by either party to election officials

[James]

In UK General Elections all the votes get counted in less than twelve hours after polls close. :shrug:

Also, I remember one of the BBC correspondents commenting at the last election that one of the big problems with American elections is that each state is allowed to make its own election rules, and there isn't a standard system across the country. That makes legal challenges more likely.

[bots]

the election rules are different in different states. In Nevada, they dont stop accepting postal votes until this Monday and thats law. They also give postal voters an opportunity to sign their ballot paper until Monday, if they forgot :laugh: People may not like it, but its the state law

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/12/07/64466025-0-image-m-4_1668239493026.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11417999/Beaming-bride-Tiffany-Trump-seen-day-wedding-billionaire-Michael-Boulos.html

[arista]

US Senate needs 51

Today Now

49 Republicans
49 Democrats

[arista]

US Senate Right Now

50 Democrats
49 Republicans

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhXEhd4XEAECdum?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhMMULLWAAA5fSM?format=jpg&name=small

[Oliver_W]

US Senate Right Now

50 Democrats
49 Republicans

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

[MTVN]

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

Georgia won't be decided until December but it doesn't matter in practice now, if it's 50/50 the Dems retain control as the Vice President has the tie breaker

[joeysteele]

Biden has been poor so far.

However I'm glad of the Senate result.
It's a kick in the teeth to Trump and I do hope the Republican Party take that on board too.

[arista]

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

No

Not all the states are in.

[bots]

it will be weeks until the house is declared, but it's going to be a very small majority whoever ends up winning it

[Oliver_W]

Jesus :joker: how can single states take longer to count and verify their votes when ours are done within 24 hours? Not even the most populated state (Cali) has anywhere near the population of the UK, so they can't use more votes as an excuse.

[bots]

Jesus :joker: how can single states take longer to count and verify their votes when ours are done within 24 hours? Not even the most populated state (Cali) has anywhere near the population of the UK, so they can't use more votes as an excuse.

they have all sorts of state laws in place to make sure everything is verified and double checked at every stage, it takes an enormous amount of time. Also, its not like here where the winner takes over the next day. The new session doesnt start until January, so they have plenty time

[Oliver_W]

Yeah I'm sure they have to ensure they get the right result.

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[Mystic Mock]

Biden has been poor so far.

However I'm glad of the Senate result.
It's a kick in the teeth to Trump and I do hope the Republican Party take that on board too.

Well it's no coincidence imo that as soon as Trump got more involved the worse the campaign went for the Republicans.

Because contrary to popular belief, most Americans hate Trump, even against Hilary Clinton he got less votes than her.

[joeysteele]

Well it's no coincidence imo that as soon as Trump got more involved the worse the campaign went for the Republicans.

Because contrary to popular belief, most Americans hate Trump, even against Hilary Clinton he got less votes than her.

Yes that's all true Mock.
Good points.

[bots]

people are under the impression that its all down to Trump. This is wrong. 200 republican members of the house didnt just start flouting democracy because of Trump. They did it because being in power is more important than anything else. It's the majority of the party. They don't have any policies, they only criticise everyone else. If Trump were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow, there are 200 members of congress with exactly the same views that could take over tomorrow.

Does that remind you of any other country? :laugh:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhdoLb5XwAkgQ-r?format=jpg&name=small

[Alf]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhdoLb5XwAkgQ-r?format=jpg&name=smallThe amount off propaganda on that one page is of the scale.

You seriously need me back on here. Arista is gonna rot your minds

[Alf]

Red wave.

[Mystic Mock]

people are under the impression that its all down to Trump. This is wrong. 200 republican members of the house didnt just start flouting democracy because of Trump. They did it because being in power is more important than anything else. It's the majority of the party. They don't have any policies, they only criticise everyone else. If Trump were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow, there are 200 members of congress with exactly the same views that could take over tomorrow.

Does that remind you of any other country? :laugh:

It's a fair point.

I do feel like those 200 will feel less emboldened now that their viewpoint has been rejected yet again though.

[Mystic Mock]

Red wave.

It's actually a possibility for them if they learn to respect democracy, plus back away from Trump who is giving them an horrendous image to middle ground voters in America.

[bots]

It's a fair point.

I do feel like those 200 will feel less emboldened now that their viewpoint has been rejected yet again though.

they have just been elected though, so they will be feeling very emboldened :laugh:

It's true that high profile result deniers didn't get elected but an awful lot did, including a qanon supporter

To provide a bit of further context, the media and the dems are publicising the results in swing elections where the results were in doubt and saying democracy won, but most seats are safe and the incumbent gets re-elected easily. Those are the majority and those are also where the majority are happy to dispense with democracy and deny election results

[Alf]

they have just been elected though, so they will be feeling very emboldened :laugh:

It's true that high profile result deniers didn't get elected but an awful lot did, including a qanon supporter

to provide a bit of further context, the media and the dems are publicising the results in swing elections where the results were in doubt and saying democracy won, but most seats are safe and the incumbent gets re-elected easily. Those are the majority and those are also where the majority are happy to dispense with democracy and deny election results1589261605233360897

[Alf]

It's actually a possibility for them if they learn to respect democracy, plus back away from Trump who is giving them an horrendous image to middle ground voters in America.How is Trump giving them an horrendous image?

There's never been a more popular candidate with the people in my lifetime.

Just look at his rallies. Just look at what his war mongering, establishment opposition would go to to stop him.

[bots]

Biden was more popular, he got more votes than Trump

[Alf]

Biden was more popularYeah, you could tell by his packed to the rafters rallies and the "Let's go Brandon" chants at stadiums.

Don't you have any comment on the 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results video I posted?

[bots]

keep denying it Alf, but Biden was more popular than Trump as the votes showed

[Alf]

keep denying it Alf, but Biden was more popular than Trump as the votes showedNot just more popular than Trump. But easily more popular than any candidate ever.

Trumps numbers made him one of the most popular ever too.

With Biden's numbers then he's nailed on to win again.

I think future candidates should take a leaf out of Joe's campaigning book and spend that campaigning time in the basement and not on the road. It was certainly the greatest tactic ever.

[arista]

The amount off propaganda on that one page is of the scale.

You seriously need me back on here. Arista is gonna rot your minds



No, all views are valid
The Democrats in 2016
could not believe they lost.

The same with Brexit
the remoaners were in shock.



All USA Front pages are needed on this current thread

[arista]

President Biden
Now taking questions in Bali.


He is standing firm on Taiwan

[arista]

An American among the press team
asked Biden about Abortion rights,

Biden did not want to speak about that
He Left.

[arista]

USA now has over $31 Trillion in Debt.

That is Not healthy, Alf.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/04/economy/us-national-debt-31-trillion/index.html


Sign Of The Times

[Alf]

FTX

Sam Bankman-Fried


What's the story?

[bots]

nothing to do with the mid terms

[Alf]

nothing to do with the mid termsYou sure?

[Alf]

Nothing at all?

Some would beg to differ with you.


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[The Slim Reaper]

From the man that brought us

Trump is still president and the army will arrest Biden in inauguration day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

From the man that brought us

Trump is still president and the army will arrest Biden in inauguration day.

Its a tweet from James Bradley

did he say that?

[The Slim Reaper]

Its a tweet from James Bradley

did he say that?

I've been waiting for you to ask, you're slowing in your old age.

I was referring to Alf, obviously, but it's congress that has been funding Ukraine, not Biden.

FTX isn't funded by Ukraine, either, but apart from that...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I've been waiting for you to ask, you're slowing in your old age.

I was referring to Alf, obviously, but it's congress that has been funding Ukraine, not Biden.

FTX isn't funded by Ukraine, either, but apart from that...

you were not and its not obvious

stop being personal when you are exposed

[The Slim Reaper]

you were not and its not obvious

stop being personal when you are exposed

Which bit do you feel is personal this time, my permanently tearful brother?

How have I been exposed, when I've proved the tweet is nonsense?

[Alf]

From the man that brought us

Trump is still president and the army will arrest Biden in inauguration day.I haven't moved from that position. They also cheated and are cheating as I speak in this election. How can you not see it? It's right in front of your eyes.

[The Slim Reaper]

I haven't moved from that position. They also cheated and are cheating as I speak in this election. How can you not see it? It's right in front of your eyes.

How are they cheating this time?

[Alf]

How are they cheating this time?How are they still counting now? The election was last week.

[The Slim Reaper]

How are they still counting now? The election was last week.

So counting? Counting is how they're cheating? What about the late counts that the gop wins? Is that cheating as well? If you were trying to cheat, why would you make things constantly so close? And would you make it so you basically have a one seat majority in the senate with 2 undercover gop'ers in Sinema and Manchin, and maybe still lose the house? If they're going to cheat, at least give themselves actual victory.

[Alf]

Nevada population 3m
Arizona population 7m
Florida population 22m

Nevada 5+ days to count
Arizona 5+ days to count
Florida 1 night to count

[Alf]

Something big is coming tomorrow, although it will be the early hours of Wednesday morning in our country


"Hopefully, tomorrow will turn out to be one of the most important days in the history of our Country"

Donald John Trump

[The Slim Reaper]

Something big is coming tomorrow, although it will be the early hours of Wednesday morning in our country


"Hopefully, tomorrow will turn out to be one of the most important days in the history of our Country"

Donald John Trump

He's supposed to announce he's running again, I think. Nothing to do with the cheating demon rats.

[Alf]

He's supposed to announce he's running again, I think. Nothing to do with the cheating demon rats.Possibly, although I'm not convinced that that is his announcement.

I thought he may wait until after the Hershel Walker result before he announced anything like that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Possibly, although I'm not convinced that that is his announcement.

I thought he may wait until after the Hershel Walker result before he announced anything like that.

He's taken a bit of a hammering after these results, so his advisors have been telling him to wait. If he's running, he will absolutely try and muscle in on this race, which probably favours the dems tbh, as it did in 2020, but in a tight race anything can happen.

[Alf]

2016 A New Hope
2020 The Empire Strikes Back
2024 Return of the Jedi

[The Slim Reaper]

A candidate can still run for pres in prison, so at least that is in his favour :smug:

[bots]

So counting? Counting is how they're cheating? What about the late counts that the gop wins? Is that cheating as well? If you were trying to cheat, why would you make things constantly so close? And would you make it so you basically have a one seat majority in the senate with 2 undercover gop'ers in Sinema and Manchin, and maybe still lose the house? If they're going to cheat, at least give themselves actual victory.

most of the counts that are still ongoing in california are favouring the gop, so thats obvious cheating

[Alf]

What do you say, Sticks, are they cheating again?


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[Alf]

Cheating buggers


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[Mystic Mock]

How is Trump giving them an horrendous image?

There's never been a more popular candidate with the people in my lifetime.

Just look at his rallies. Just look at what his war mongering, establishment opposition would go to to stop him.

The guy got less votes than Hilary Clinton, he isn't popular.

[Mystic Mock]

they have just been elected though, so they will be feeling very emboldened :laugh:

It's true that high profile result deniers didn't get elected but an awful lot did, including a qanon supporter

To provide a bit of further context, the media and the dems are publicising the results in swing elections where the results were in doubt and saying democracy won, but most seats are safe and the incumbent gets re-elected easily. Those are the majority and those are also where the majority are happy to dispense with democracy and deny election results

My point being is that it wasn't by anywhere near the margin that most Republicans were expecting, and I think that was because they let Trump get involved which made the vote much closer because most Americans don't like him.

[arista]

Arizona 2022
Republican Kari Lake has lost 49.6


Democrat Katie Hobs a Little above her 50.4 Wins


Now Kari Lake is using her master plan
but like Trump, it will Fail.
https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/aa1e54b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3600x2400+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F26%2Faa%2 F5321a92e4bf1b2e57b96332560b8%2Felection-2022-governor-arizona-92039.jpg

[arista]

But well done,
to the Republicans
who will win Control of the House

218 needed

Current numbers at this hour

212 Republicans

204 Democrats

[Alf]

Arizona 2022
Republican Kari Lake has lost 49.6


Democrat Katie Hobs a Little above her 50.4 Wins


Now Kari Lake is using her master plan
but like Trump, it will Fail.
https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/aa1e54b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3600x2400+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F26%2Faa%2 F5321a92e4bf1b2e57b96332560b8%2Felection-2022-governor-arizona-92039.jpgJust not possible.

She's far, far more popular than her opponent.

There was absolutely no way the deep state could let her win because she was gonna cause too much trouble for them.

She definitely won't concede because it's quite obvious it's a scam.

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm not sure Alf, maybe constantly slagging off John McCain in his own state, when he was pretty popular amongst both d's and r's, may not have been the best strategy, alongside her election denialism. But that's just one point of view which doesn't allow for the deep state or globalists, so it's probably wrong.

[arista]

Yes Alf
Kari is Very Popular

But so is Democrat Katie Hobs
and the winner is Hobs

[Alf]

Yes Alf
Kari is Very Popular

But so is Democrat Katie Hobs
and the winner is HobsNo, Trump has caught them all.

Space force

[bots]

I'm not sure Alf, maybe constantly slagging off John McCain in his own state, when he was pretty popular amongst both d's and r's, may not have been the best strategy, alongside her election denialism. But that's just one point of view which doesn't allow for the deep state or globalists, so it's probably wrong.

at one meeting, she asked people to raise their hands if they supported McCain. She then told them to leave as she didnt want them. Now she wonders why she didn't get enough votes :laugh:

[arista]

No, Trump has caught them all.

Space force


What can
sad Trump say today?

[Alf]

at one meeting, she asked people to raise their hands if they supported McCain. She then told them to leave as she didnt want them. Now she wonders why she didn't get enough votes :laugh:Joe Biden creepily touched kids. What's the excuse for him getting the most votes in history?

[The Slim Reaper]

at one meeting, she asked people to raise their hands if they supported McCain. She then told them to leave as she didnt want them. Now she wonders why she didn't get enough votes :laugh:

That's how they get ya bots, with perfectly reasonable common sense explanations. This is 2022, and there's no room for that kind of weirdness :laugh:.

[Alf]

What can
sad Trump say today?He was President for 4 years. He has it all, all the secrets.

He's just waiting for you people to wake up and come back on the side of the people.

[The Slim Reaper]

He was President for 4 years. He has it all, all the secrets.

He's just waiting for you people to wake up and come back on the side of the people.

If he wants folks to believe him, he has to provide the evidence first. That's like saying Jesus is waiting for you all to believe in him before he comes back to earth, but trumpism is definitely not a cult :smug:

[Alf]

Why do you feel you need to leap to the defence and come up with excuses for quite obvious, blatent corruption?

[The Slim Reaper]

Why do you feel you need to leap to the defence and come up with excuses for quite obvious, blatent corruption?

It's so obvious and blatant, that there isn't any evidence beyond the people that you want to believe, telling you to to believe them.

I don't need to make excuses. As I said before the voting even started, I didn't believe that whichever side won, the voting was rigged.

And no side has really even won. It's so rigged that they rigged a draw :laugh:

[Alf]

If he wants folks to believe him, he has to provide the evidence first. That's like saying Jesus is waiting for you all to believe in him before he comes back to earth, but trumpism is definitely not a cult :smug:You're in a position that you will take the opposite side (the MSM) to Trump no matter what. So whatever evidence he comes up with you will deny it.

The MSM was finally forced into (after the General election) to admit that there was a laptop associated with Hunter Biden after they'd previously denied it.

You're reaction was not to question why the media would lie about that but rather want to know information that hasn't been made available to us yet about it. You was doing it in a defensive way like you wanted the laptop story to be wrong and go away.

If Trump produced evidence and the MSM said it's all BS and put their spin on it. You'd argue against Trump.

You have to be shown gradually to wake you up.

[Liam-]

My favourite was that preacher just before the election that said God told him personally that the gop would wipe the floor with democrats, I wonder how he’s feeling now

[Alf]

I've shown you videos of the election machines not working.

You haven't even reacted to them.

A normal person would at least say "That does look a bit dodgy" But instead you just want me to stop and to argue against whatever I show you. You're so partizan it's untrue.

[bots]

My favourite was that preacher just before the election that said God told him personally that the gop would wipe the floor with democrats, I wonder how he’s feeling now

it's the christian nationalists, they are all completely crazy .... and desantis is one of them :laugh:

[Liam-]

Kari Lake called herself ‘Trump in a wig’ and just like Trump, she lost bigly

[Alf]

it's the christian nationalists, they are all completely crazy .... and desantis is one of them :laugh:They believe in God and you believe in the news channels on the television. What makes you any more special than them?

[bots]

They believe in God and you believe in the news channels on the television. What makes you any more special than them?

no, i don't believe in the news channels, i listen to multiple sources and make my own determination which may or may not be correct. I don't make up stupid **** and say that a higher power told me

[Alf]

no, i don't believe in the news channels, i listen to multiple sources and make my own determination which may or may not be correct. I don't make up stupid **** and say that a higher power told meIf the people who told you to stay in your home and take a vaccine are not a higher power to you then why did you follow their orders?

It's because they are your higher power

The Devil will find work for idle hands to do

[The Slim Reaper]

If the people who told you to stay in your home and take a vaccine are not a higher power to you then why did you follow their orders?

It's because they are your higher power

The Devil will find work for idle hands to do

What difference does it make? :smug:

[Alf]

What difference does it make? :smug:It makes none

[The Slim Reaper]

It makes none

But now you have gone

[Alf]

But now you have goneAnd your prejudice won't keep you warm tonight

[The Slim Reaper]

And your prejudice won't keep you warm tonight

I stole and I lied, and why?
Because the deep state asked me to!

[arista]

Kari Lake called herself ‘Trump in a wig’ and just like Trump, she lost bigly


She could have won
if she got a few more,
thousand votes

The Democrats (Katie Hobs) managed to reach out to get
young women voting more,
it paid off

[Alf]

Arista, will you be awake for Trumps announcement? It's said to be at 9pm which I believe is 2am here.

I'll probably be in bed, so post it in here then I can come straight here when I wake up and see what went down.

[arista]

Arista, will you be awake for Trumps announcement? It's said to be at 9pm which I believe is 2am here.

I'll probably be in bed, so post it in here then I can come straight here when I wake up and see what went down.


Yes, I hope to post it
Many are saying he will not say much, now

[bots]

i think it will be full of things like the election was stolen etc etc

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think it will be full of things like the election was stolen etc etc

There were rather a few senior people in the UK who spent years saying the Brexit ref result was wrong as people were lied to and were too stupid to sift through all the standard lies on both sides etc

[bots]

There were rather a few senior people in the UK who spent years saying the Brexit ref result was wrong as people were lied to and were too stupid to sift through all the standard lies on both sides etc

the independence ref and the brexit ref were embarrassing. Not for their objective, but for the way all sides behaved

[The Slim Reaper]

I mean, one side was clearly right as we now have evidence. There is no both siding wrong and right.

[Alf]

There were rather a few senior people in the UK who spent years saying the Brexit ref result was wrong as people were lied to and were too stupid to sift through all the standard lies on both sides etcThey're still saying it. They're still attempting to change it to this day. Here's Peston still crying in a tweet yesterday.

It's OK when they do it. It's only bad when they're challenged.


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[The Slim Reaper]

Facts are a difficult thing to work through, Alfred :joker:

[Alf]

Facts are a difficult thing to work through, Alfred :joker:But if the people running the show want to be back in the EU, it would be in their interest to be as disruptive to us as they can. Then they can say, "we told you so"

Hard Brexiters should be running things, not Globalist puppets.

They all teamed up to oust Boris who had a huge vote from the people. They got him out because he had a slice of cake.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Facts are a difficult thing to work through, Alfred :joker:

That tweet is an opinion not a fact

[The Slim Reaper]

That tweet is an opinion not a fact

Is the graph a fact or an opinion? Is London being replaced by Paris a measurable fact or an opinion?

[arista]

[Republicans have secured the 218 seats
needed for a majority in the lower chamber
of Congress a week after the midterm elections,
the BBC's US partner CBS News projects.

While the party's margin in the
House of Representatives is razor-thin,
it is enough to stall President Joe Biden's
agenda for the next two years.
But Democrats will keep control of the Senate
when the new Congress convenes in January.
A handful of seats remain to be called.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63629003