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Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 11:22 AM
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The first drag queen “story hour” for children in a UK-wide tour of council
libraries has descended into chaos after it was stormed by protesters.
Almost 70 events in 20 areas of Britain are being visited over the next two
months by Drag Queen Story Hour UK, a group that hosts sessions for three
to 11-year-olds.
The project is run by Sab Samuel, a 27-year-old autistic male children’s
author, who performs as Aida H Dee in a sequined dress with heavy make-
up.
But the first event for families at Reading Borough Council libraries erupted
in a dramatic row, as Mr Samuel was given a police escort next to a riot van
and demonstrators chanted “paedophile”.
It was derailed when two mothers, who had infiltrated the ticket-only class,
stood up and confronted Mr Samuel. They shouted: “You’re allowing child
grooming to take place, this is disgusting, do you know what autogynephilia
is?”
Autogynephilia is when males are sexually aroused by the thought of
themselves being female.
One unidentified mother, holding a pram and filming the drag queen, shouted
in front of the assembled crowd: “You’re probably teaching kids that there’s
100 genders, there’s only two sexes, no man can be a woman. We’re here to
protect children.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/26/protesters-storm-first-drag-queen-storytime-primary-school-children/
top DT comment: Amazing isn't it, if you're burgled you aren't visited by
police now but if you're a drag queen you're protected by dozens of police!!
Insane!!
we have had males playing females in the theatre for donkey's years. In what ways is this different?
smudgie
28-07-2022, 11:41 AM
Those poor kids, having such small minded bigoted mothers.
Liam-
28-07-2022, 11:48 AM
we have had males playing females in the theatre for donkey's years. In what ways is this different?
There is no difference, pantomime dames have been telling crude jokes in front of children for god knows how long, the only difference is the culture to which drag belongs too, this is all about being against anything lgbt based
There is no difference, pantomime dames have been telling crude jokes in front of children for god knows how long, the only difference is the culture to which drag belongs too, this is all about being against anything lgbt basedAt this point the LGBT movement is acting like a new kind of religious cult so there's nothing new in that. It's no different to atheists being against anything religious based.
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 12:02 PM
"Drag at its core is misogynistic; it is men portraying women as sexually objectified
caricatures. Drag performers frequently reduce women to hyper sexualised, big breasted,
big haired bimbos. "
“Anna Bortion” was listed as one of the funniest drag queen names by Pride alongside
“Malestia Child”:umm2:. Ginger Minj finished as a runner up on Ru Paul’s Drag
Race.
The British Library promoted an event with children’s drag entertainer Alyssa Van Delle
, calling Van Delle a “hot” performer who will “have you on the edge of your seat and
gagging for more”. “Charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent” is a phrase repeated by
RuPaul, simply because the words spell out C.U.N.T. Or how about the drag term “fish”,
which is used to describe a very feminine drag queen or man that “passes”. It is a
reference to the supposed smell of women’s genitals.
https://thecritic.co.uk/how-drag-degrades-women/
"Drag at its core is misogynistic; it is men portraying women as sexually objectified
caricatures. Drag performers frequently reduce women to hyper sexualised, big breasted,
big haired bimbos. "
“Anna Bortion” was listed as one of the funniest drag queen names by Pride alongside
“Malestia Child”:umm2:. Ginger Minj finished as a runner up on Ru Paul’s Drag
Race.
The British Library promoted an event with children’s drag entertainer Alyssa Van Delle
, calling Van Delle a “hot” performer who will “have you on the edge of your seat and
gagging for more”. “Charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent” is a phrase repeated by
RuPaul, simply because the words spell out C.U.N.T. Or how about the drag term “fish”,
which is used to describe a very feminine drag queen or man that “passes”. It is a
reference to the supposed smell of women’s genitals.
https://thecritic.co.uk/how-drag-degrades-women/
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we have had males playing females in the theatre for donkey's years. In what ways is this different?
The mothers dont want it to happen...are you saying their rights as parents should be ignored?
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 12:41 PM
If they're so concerned they should home school but that would require them to get off right wing social media for a minute and give their kids some attention so that isn't gonna happen.
If they're so concerned they should home school but that would require them to get off right wing social media for a minute and give their kids some attention so that isn't gonna happen.But what if they don't want to take orders from you to do what you want them to do? What then?
Oliver_W
28-07-2022, 12:51 PM
we have had males playing females in the theatre for donkey's years. In what ways is this different?
Panto has jokes too, so should small children be taken to see Ricky Gervais?
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 01:34 PM
But what if they don't want to take orders from you to do what you want them to do? What then?
What if the school don't want to take orders? What if drag queens refuse to be bullied and abused out of a job?
If they're so concerned they should home school but that would require them to get off right wing social media for a minute and give their kids some attention so that isn't gonna happen.
What about the muslim parents protesting at the school gates last year. Should they get off the right wing sites as well.
Love to see this happen in tower hamlets...except it wont.
What about the muslim parents protesting at the school gates last year. Should they get off the right wing sites as well.
Love to see this happen in tower hamlets...except it wont.
Whether you like it or not, that is a very good point. This wont be happening in UK Muslim communities.
we have had males playing females in the theatre for donkey's years. In what ways is this different?
It just ‘seems’ different to my mind .
I don’t really appreciate any kind of drag artists ( I hate pantomimes as well ) but it certainly doesn’t sit comfortably with me if they’re performing in primary schools
Maybe it’s an age thing ..
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Whether you like it or not, that is a very good point. This wont be happening in UK Muslim communities.
If they can stop cinemas airing films, imagine how easy they could stop a library from booking this bloke.
One things for sure, the police wouldn't be filming the protestors like they did today.
Gusto Brunt
28-07-2022, 02:15 PM
It's the blue beard I find creepy.
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 02:16 PM
What about the muslim parents protesting at the school gates last year. Should they get off the right wing sites as well.
Love to see this happen in tower hamlets...except it wont.
Well some Muslims also hold conservative views so the things you protest for are not exactly far removed. You could be great allies if you could get over the fact they are brown.
Well some Muslims also hold conservative views so the things you protest for are not exactly far removed. You could be great allies if you could get over the fact they are brown.
That's a very racist comment.
What if the school don't want to take orders? What if drag queens refuse to be bullied and abused out of a job?The parents pay for the Schools out of their taxes. If the Schools want to stop taking orders from the parents then they should pay for their own schools and stop taking money off the tax paying parents which they're given to educate their children.
These trans people are going around spreading the gospel of LGBT just like any religious preacher. They have months dedicated to LGBT with flags, parades and everything else that comes with it. Just like any religious holiday. And if anyone is critical of it you're seen as some sort of religious blasphemer or in this case transphobic.
Like I said earlier in this thread. This is a new kind of religious cult as all the undeniable evidence above proves.
Am I wrong in that observation?
Cherie
28-07-2022, 03:21 PM
It just ‘seems’ different to my mind .
I don’t really appreciate any kind of drag artists ( I hate pantomimes as well ) but it certainly doesn’t sit comfortably with me if they’re performing in primary schools
Maybe it’s an age thing ..
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Yeah I agree dont see the comparison with panto which is family friendly and drag acts which are not?
I don't get the current obsession to have readers who are drag queens either if I am honest
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 03:24 PM
Yeah I agree dont see the comparison with panto which is family friendly and drag acts which are not?
I don't get the current obsession to have readers who are drag queens either if I am honest
Nor why a night-time men adult sexual "act" would want to parade about like that to little children
well creepy
If he cared about the kids, and not just himself, then he would come to work dressed appropriately.
He would then find himself reading to larger audiences, which would help him promote his book better.
Nicky91
28-07-2022, 03:47 PM
Nor why a night-time men adult sexual "act" would want to parade about like that to little children
well creepy
nothing sexual about that, but i can tell you have never watched a single ep of RuPaul Drag Race
and one word of advice from me, if you don't know what ur talking about
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Liam-
28-07-2022, 03:51 PM
This is all just about hateful, ignorant people taking out their hateful urges against the lgbt community, under the guise of ‘protecting children’ it’s completely transparent and nauseating
This is all just about hateful, ignorant people taking out their hateful urges against the lgbt community, under the guise of ‘protecting children’ it’s completely transparent and nauseatingAre they blaspheming?
Do you feel the same way about people who hate on religious Christians like the Westboro Baptists or is that hate OK and welcome?
Do drag queens come under the LGBTQ umbrella?
Cherie
28-07-2022, 04:07 PM
Do drag queens come under the LGBTQ umbrella?
Aren't a significant percentage straight men?
Do drag queens come under the LGBTQ umbrella?If you look at all the parades during pride month then I'd say that they either do see themselves as part of it or maybe they have just hijacked the movement.
Liam-
28-07-2022, 04:13 PM
Aren't a significant percentage straight men?
The vast majority of drag queens are gay men, there are straight men that do it, but it wouldn’t be considered a ‘significant percentage’
So they dont come under the umbrella then.
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 04:38 PM
The parents pay for the Schools out of their taxes. If the Schools want to stop taking orders from the parents then they should pay for their own schools and stop taking money off the tax paying parents which they're given to educate their children.
What if the other parents don't share their sentiment? This was a ticketed event so why were they allowed to ruin it for those that wanted to be there?
So they dont come under the umbrella then.I think some of the LGBT community said that they can stand under their umbrella ella ella ella.
No gammons allowed though.
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 04:41 PM
"Drag Queen Storytime is exactly what it sounds like, drag queens reading stories to
children in libraries. The aim is to capture the freedom of childhood and give children
positive, gender fluid and unabashedly queer role models in a world where people can
present as they wish, where dress up is real."
:umm2:
What if the other parents don't share their sentiment? This was a ticketed event so why were they allowed to ruin it for those that wanted to be there?Because we're still supposed to be allowed to protest in a free democratic society. You can disagree with what they're protesting about but you can't stop them protesting.
Liam-
28-07-2022, 04:45 PM
What if the other parents don't share their sentiment? This was a ticketed event so why were they allowed to ruin it for those that wanted to be there?
Because only parents that hate gays and trans people should be allowed to dictate what children see and learn obviously
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 04:48 PM
Do you remember the one in Scotland last year ?
""A male who dresses as a sexualised parody of a women, goes by the name "flowjob" is hardly a role model for primary aged children."
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Oliver_W
28-07-2022, 04:50 PM
So they dont come under the umbrella then.
Well, not by virtue of being a drag queen alone. If they're a gay guy, they're obviously LGBT.
"Drag Queen Storytime is exactly what it sounds like, drag queens reading stories to
children in libraries. The aim is to capture the freedom of childhood and give children
positive, gender fluid and unabashedly queer role models in a world where people can
present as they wish, where dress up is real."
:umm2:
Are we gonna provide those same kidz with self defence lessons as well ?
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Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 07:16 PM
Are we gonna provide those same kidz with self defence lessons as well ?
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Can you believe grown adult men want to dress as "sexualized comical diss-intended ladies " and read to children?
i cant?
Oliver_W
28-07-2022, 07:19 PM
Do you remember the one in Scotland last year ?
""A male who dresses as a sexualised parody of a women, goes by the name "flowjob" is hardly a role model for primary aged children."
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Why's he made his face look so creepy?!
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 07:21 PM
Why's he made his face look so creepy?!
totally inappropriate
id imagine 99.9% don't have any children and have no idea what is
Mystic Mock
28-07-2022, 07:37 PM
we have had males playing females in the theatre for donkey's years. In what ways is this different?
This really.
As long as the Drag community doesn't allow convicted Paedophiles into their community then I don't see the issue.
Especially if they're only reading the children kids stories too.
This really.
As long as the Drag community doesn't allow convicted Paedophiles into their community then I don't see the issue.
Especially if they're only reading the children kids stories too.
How many will be able to concentrate on the flamin story though :)
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Mystic Mock
28-07-2022, 07:41 PM
"Drag at its core is misogynistic; it is men portraying women as sexually objectified
caricatures. Drag performers frequently reduce women to hyper sexualised, big breasted,
big haired bimbos. "
“Anna Bortion” was listed as one of the funniest drag queen names by Pride alongside
“Malestia Child”:umm2:. Ginger Minj finished as a runner up on Ru Paul’s Drag
Race.
The British Library promoted an event with children’s drag entertainer Alyssa Van Delle
, calling Van Delle a “hot” performer who will “have you on the edge of your seat and
gagging for more”. “Charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent” is a phrase repeated by
RuPaul, simply because the words spell out C.U.N.T. Or how about the drag term “fish”,
which is used to describe a very feminine drag queen or man that “passes”. It is a
reference to the supposed smell of women’s genitals.
https://thecritic.co.uk/how-drag-degrades-women/
I'll never forget the stage names of Anna Bortion & Malestia Child.
Dark Comedy still exists in 2022.:flutter:
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 07:43 PM
I'll never forget the stage names of Anna Bortion & Malestia Child.
Dark Comedy still exists in 2022.:flutter:
dark comedy about pedophilia
what on earth Mock
have some kids and get back to the forum
:umm2:
Mystic Mock
28-07-2022, 07:43 PM
How many will be able to concentrate on the flamin story though :)
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Well thinking back to when I was a kid, I probably would've thought that they were weird and then moved on with my day playing Football, and talking about Sonic & Beyblade with my mates.
Kids don't think too deeply about this stuff.
Mystic Mock
28-07-2022, 07:52 PM
dark comedy about pedophilia
what on earth Mock
have some kids and get back to the forum
:umm2:
Herbert from Family Guy exists, and is a wildly popular character for the Show, plus kids do watch Family Guy.
So ultimately what's the difference? Excluding the Animation aspect obviously.
And speaking for myself I am not uptight about humour, I never have been, and never will be.
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 07:53 PM
totally inappropriate
id imagine 99.9% don't have any children and have no idea what is
You have posted many times about letting your young children play adult video games which feature way more than just sexualised women so why the pearl clutching now?
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 07:57 PM
You have posted many times about letting your young children play adult video games which feature way more than just sexualised women so why the pearl clutching now?
are you suggesting video play game avatars are now real life to try and defend this awful situation?
They are real hairy back adult men pretending to be women (to discredit them)
wow
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 08:03 PM
are you suggesting video play game avatars are now real life to try and defend this awful situation?
They are real hairy back adult men pretending to be women (to discredit them)
wow
The characters are not real but the actions they portray very much are... murder, drugs, sex, prostitution to name a few. All of which you find okay for kids but you draw the line at drag queens reading a book?
wow
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 08:06 PM
The characters are not real but the actions they portray very much are... murder, drugs, sex, prostitution to name a few. All of which you find okay for kids but you draw the line at drag queens reading a book?
wow
yes and willie coyote used to try and kill bugs bunny
:skull:
get a new lawyer...
Jordan.
28-07-2022, 08:09 PM
He finished GTA V when he was 8 so he is battle hardened (it looks good, just watched a bit of it)
8 years old playing an ADULT 18 rated game
totally inappropriate
:shocked:
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 08:16 PM
8 years old playing an ADULT 18 rated game
totally inappropriate
:shocked:
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maybe concentrate on why you are defending this very suspect activity..
:skull:
what else are you defending?
Well thinking back to when I was a kid, I probably would've thought that they were weird and then moved on with my day playing Football, and talking about Sonic & Beyblade with my mates.
Kids don't think too deeply about this stuff.
Today’s kids have trouble concentrating at the best of times .. dressed like that with the crazy makeup would only distract them further - I think
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Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2022, 08:22 PM
Today’s kids have trouble concentrating at the best of times .. dressed like that with the crazy makeup would only distract them further - I think
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and the motivation is what?
for gay men who 99% have no interest in having children or educating them?
and the motivation is what?
for gay men who 99% have no interest in having children or educating them?
I would suggest its grooming.
Cherie
29-07-2022, 06:24 AM
Herbert from Family Guy exists, and is a wildly popular character for the Show, plus kids do watch Family Guy.
So ultimately what's the difference? Excluding the Animation aspect obviously.
And speaking for myself I am not uptight about humour, I never have been, and never will be.
Family guy is a show that is aired after the watershed, it is not aimed at kids, if parents let their kids watch it that it their perogative of course, but it is not a kids show
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 09:18 AM
Aren't a significant percentage straight men?
Yeah some are ,but most are apart of the LGBT community it seems.
I'm curious how people would feel if it was Drag Kings going into schools, reading stories? ( Aka women dressing up as butch men ) . I think the problem is even if people are uncomfortable or dislike drag queens & schools being mixed,the media will always make things sound worse than it is .
Ok fine people see it as odd ,but the main concern should be aslong as they're not swearing , telling crude jokes Infront of the kids ,or dressing inappropriately or teaching weird stuff then surely it's not that bad?.
I got the impression they were just telling the children stories? I assume it's still child friendly? With their eccentric behaviour . But I haven't researched this enough.
Also there's so many different types of drag aswell, I sometimes feel they purposely get the most strange ones . And people will assume they're "all like that" .
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 09:22 AM
I'm curious how people would feel if it was Drag Kings going into schools, reading stories? ( Aka women dressing up as butch men ) . I think the problem is even if people are uncomfortable or dislike drag queens & schools being mixed,the media will always make things sound worse than it is .
Males dressed as women are just inherently funny, which is why drag works for comedic effect. Females dressed as men just come off as butch lesbians, which isn't automatically funny.
Liam-
29-07-2022, 09:24 AM
Family guy is a show that is aired after the watershed, it is not aimed at kids, if parents let their kids watch it that it their perogative of course, but it is not a kids show
And if parents choose to not be bigoted and allow their kids to be read stories by a drag queen, that’s their prerogative
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 09:34 AM
Males dressed as women are just inherently funny, which is why drag works for comedic effect. Females dressed as men just come off as butch lesbians, which isn't automatically funny.
Actually Drag Kings are getting more recognition now, but I know Drag Queens will always dominate.
I also wonder if it would be better if the Queen's acted out a play with other adults for the kids to see ( again a children's story ) , like a panto type thing . Rather than just sat reading :think: .
I don't think the kids would get bored or distracted then ,which is another thing people are saying.
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 10:09 AM
Believe it or not teachers do still read to kids, so I don't necessarily think boredom or distraction come into it.
Cherie
29-07-2022, 10:18 AM
And if parents choose to not be bigoted and allow their kids to be read stories by a drag queen, that’s their prerogative
harsh
AnnieK
29-07-2022, 10:22 AM
If they are reading to KS1 primary kids, they will have no idea of what a Drag Queen is - they will just think its someone dressed up - same as they would if it were someone reading in a dinosaur outfit etc. As long as the Queen's stick to reading the book they are there to read, I don't see how it would be sexualised or inappropriate for the children, they will not (or should not) be aware of the content of a drag act.
Older primary kids will be more aware but they are less likely to be sat being read to.
If they are reading to KS1 primary kids, they will have no idea of what a Drag Queen is - they will just think its someone dressed up - same as they would if it were someone reading in a dinosaur outfit etc. As long as the Queen's stick to reading the book they are there to read, I don't see how it would be sexualised or inappropriate for the children, they will not (or should not) be aware of the content of a drag act.
Older primary kids will be more aware but they are less likely to be sat being read to.
Fair points about them not knowing what a drag Queen is but they do know what NORMAL looks like and sounds like for that matter ... Also some children freak out at flamin clowns and some of these characters are far more scary looking than a clown .
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Incidentally what are the stories like , what are they about ?
If they’re absolutely amazing he could just ‘dress’ normally .. so to speak .
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GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 12:17 PM
Incidentally what are the stories like , what are they about ?
If they’re absolutely amazing he could just ‘dress’ normally .. so to speak .
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Like I said I think it would be better if it was panto type plays , like acting out these story books. As children especially small children will find it more fun & exciting . Rather than someone just sitting and reading.
Because even when you sit & read for a child ,you have to make it more interesting & you have to act more animated & bubbly to keep their attention & so they'll enjoy it more . Also kids have short attention spans .
Incidentally what are the stories like , what are they about ?
If they’re absolutely amazing he could just ‘dress’ normally .. so to speak .
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It's his own book, it's nothing more than a promotional tour to make him some money.
Slightly off topic, but i remember seeing some stuff about that child drag queen, Desmond is amazing. He was quite clearly drugged, and be interviewed by a convicted murderer. The chat was sometimes very suggestive and predatory at times. Some in jokes between the 2 guys interviewing the kid. He just looked heavily sedated and didn't really know what was going on. It's was very awkward and disturbing to watch.
this was only allowed to happen because the bbc cancelled jackanory
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 12:18 PM
flamin clowns
Drag queens are basically very flaming clowns :joker:
Slightly off topic, but i remember seeing some stuff about that child drag queen, Desmond is amazing. He was quite clearly drugged, and be interviewed by a convicted murderer. The chat was sometimes very suggestive and predatory at times. Some in jokes between the 2 guys interviewing the kid. He just looked heavily sedated and didn't really know what was going on. It's was very awkward and disturbing to watch.
Was one of them melesta child
What a crazy world we live in ..
Then , in my opinion , the schools in question should be questioned to see who’s making that kind of decision ( and why )
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Its a public libraries tour...the schools have obviously not allowed him to groom the school kids. Probably a load of labour run councils on the tour. You know what their track record on grooming and worse has been like, and is still like.
Its a public libraries tour...the schools have obviously not allowed him to groom the school kids. Probably a load of labour run councils on the tour. You know what their track record on grooming and worse has been like, and is still like.
Ah ..
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Was one of them melesta child
No, they weren't drag queens interviewing the kid.
Crap video but it give you the gist of it -
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I read there's a video out there of Desmond dancing suggestively and adults giving him dollars.
Nice rahypnal sign behind them.
Nice rahypnal sign behind them.
The kid is clearly drugged. He can't really answer any question put at him. The guy on the left was convicted of murdering his bf in a row over drugs in the mid 90's.
Liam-
29-07-2022, 12:52 PM
I haven’t noticed a single word from the ‘protect the children’ club about the republicans making child marriage legal in the US southern states, I wonder why they’d rather target the lgbt community with their nonsense, hmm
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 01:00 PM
I haven’t noticed a single word from the ‘protect the children’ club about the republicans making child marriage legal in the US southern states, I wonder why they’d rather target the lgbt community with their nonsense, hmm
Not heard of that one?
Not heard of that one?
i don't know what the current situation is but some states did allow 12 year old girls to get married in the not so distant past
Cults etc have taken advantage of them for decades
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 01:18 PM
i don't know what the current situation is but some states did allow 12 year old girls to get married in the not so distant past
Cults etc have taken advantage of them for decades
Every time I hear gross things like this, I always think of Jerry Lee Lewis marrying his 13 YEAR OLD COUSIN :umm2:.
But yeah there was alot of sects & cults like that in America .
Liam-
29-07-2022, 01:24 PM
Just this year a republican lead state blocked a bill that would criminalise child marriage, so it doesn’t sit right with me that people get so pent up about gay and trans people merely existing in the same atmosphere as children, while literal child endangerment is actually happening and they don’t bat an eyelid, it’s because there’s a very clear agenda being pushed with faux fear and concern
Cherie
29-07-2022, 01:36 PM
We don't live in the USA thankfully!
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 01:48 PM
Just this year a republican lead state blocked a bill that would criminalise child marriage, so it doesn’t sit right with me that people get so pent up about gay and trans people merely existing in the same atmosphere as children, while literal child endangerment is actually happening and they don’t bat an eyelid, it’s because there’s a very clear agenda being pushed with faux fear and concern
this thread is about the UK
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 01:55 PM
Just this year a republican lead state blocked a bill that would criminalise child marriage, so it doesn’t sit right with me that people get so pent up about gay and trans people merely existing in the same atmosphere as children, while literal child endangerment is actually happening and they don’t bat an eyelid, it’s because there’s a very clear agenda being pushed with faux fear and concern
Sorry Liam you're asking a bit much of us to extend our faux think of the children outrage beyond these borders.
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 02:01 PM
Just this year a republican lead state blocked a bill that would criminalise child marriage, so it doesn’t sit right with me that people get so pent up about gay and trans people merely existing in the same atmosphere as children, while literal child endangerment is actually happening and they don’t bat an eyelid, it’s because there’s a very clear agenda being pushed with faux fear and concern
I've always noticed that child marriage gets swept under the carpet, as usual perverts get away with this stuff.
And some of these communities are so twisted they probably think it's still ok to be with underage children especially when a grown man is grooming a young girl . Look at what Jerry Lee Lewis did . Yet people still liked him .
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 02:19 PM
I've always noticed that child marriage gets swept under the carpet, as usual perverts get away with this stuff.
And some of these communities are so twisted they probably think it's still ok to be with underage children especially when a grown man is grooming a young girl . Look at what Jerry Lee Lewis did . Yet people still liked him .
Michael Jackson was a paedo and people still love him
He liked to surround himself with children
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 02:31 PM
Michael Jackson was a paedo and people still love him
He liked to surround himself with children
Think what you want
I don't believe he ever was a paedo, and wrong actually .. plenty hated him . He was one of the most criticised & mocked. Even after he died , people can't stop obsessing over him .
If it wasn't his face & skin condition ,then it was the child abuse allegations that people kept slating him for.
Listen to Kitty Demure and you might learn something.
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Think what you want
I don't believe he ever was a paedo, and wrong actually .. plenty hated him . He was one of the most criticised & mocked. Even after he died , people can't stop obsessing over him .
If it wasn't his face & skin condition ,then it was the child abuse allegations that people kept slating him for.
And they rightly still do.
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 03:05 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was Reading library today for drag queen story hour for infants. <a href="https://t.co/oL3OKcN7mF">pic.twitter.com/oL3OKcN7mF</a></p>— caroline croker (@CarolineCroker) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarolineCroker/status/1551536539167072257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Cherie
29-07-2022, 03:06 PM
Listen to Kitty Demure and you might learn something.
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from the horses mouth as they say
I think most kids of that age would want to be read and could relate better to a character from Paw Patrol
Liam-
29-07-2022, 03:10 PM
Out of curiosity, have any of these ‘protect the children’ protesters stormed any churches to protest lately?
Out of curiosity, have any of these ‘protect the children’ protesters stormed any churches to protest lately?
Who knows, but if any church/mosque is teaching hate to children, making them keep unwanted children, saying being gay is wrong, then yes there should be protests. Anyway -
What that drag queen said in the twitter video makes sense, would you agree?
Liam-
29-07-2022, 03:21 PM
Not all drag queens are crude and perform sexualised routines, just because some queens are unable to do anything else, doesn’t mean there are no drag queens out there willing or able make themselves family friendly, as long as when they’re taking part in these schemes, they dont do anything that can be construed as adult or inappropriate, I literally see no reason why it would bother anybody, other than the fact it’s more than likely a gay man, which again, is what this entire issue is about, these people don’t seem to mind men dressed like women yelling crude jokes in front of children when it comes to pantomime, it’s an issue now because it hurts their bigoted brains
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 03:21 PM
from the horses mouth as they say
I think most kids of that age would want to be read and could relate better to a character from Paw Patrol
What would make an adult male in a paw patrol constume any less of a groomer?
Liam-
29-07-2022, 03:25 PM
What would make an adult male in a paw patrol constume any less of a groomer?
Unknown men dressing up in costumes that are knowingly going to attract the attention of children? Sounds dodgy
Not all drag queens are crude and perform sexualised routines, just because some queens are unable to do anything else, doesn’t mean there are no drag queens out there willing or able make themselves family friendly, as long as when they’re taking part in these schemes, they dont do anything that can be construed as adult or inappropriate, I literally see no reason why it would bother anybody, other than the fact it’s more than likely a gay man, which again, is what this entire issue is about, these people don’t seem to mind men dressed like women yelling crude jokes in front of children when it comes to pantomime, it’s an issue now because it hurts their bigoted brains
Plenty of gay teachers out there, not an issue for most (there will always be extremists, in every walk of life, i wont dispute that). It's the over sexualization of some drag queens people are opposed to. Half the time some people will use any excuse to hate, and sometimes use any excuse to claim homophobia.
I see drag queens as entertainment, sometimes for kids, mostly for adults. A school is a place for learning, drag queens are entertainment characters. If we really wanna educate kids on gay issues, approach it seriously. Seeing a guy dressed as a woman helps who (as far as kids education is concerned)?
Im not all up arms about this, but the question is fair to ask, what is the goal? What is the point?
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 03:31 PM
Unknown men dressing up in costumes that are knowingly going to attract the attention of children? Sounds dodgy
Imagine if these protestors discovered Disneyland
Liam-
29-07-2022, 03:36 PM
Plenty of gay teachers out there, not an issue for most (there will always be extremists, in every walk of life, i wont dispute that). It's the over sexualization of some drag queens people are opposed to. Half the time some people will use any excuse to hate, and sometimes use any excuse to claim homophobia.
I see drag queens as entertainment, sometimes for kids, mostly for adults. A school is a place for learning, drag queens are entertainment characters. If we really wanna educate kids on gay issues, approach it seriously. Seeing a guy dressed as a woman helps who (as far as kids education is concerned)?
Im not all up arms about this, but the question is fair to ask, what is the goal? What is the point?
Why does there have to be a goal or a point? Why can’t people just accept people from different walks of like being asked to do mundane things other people are asked to do?
Why does it affect someone’s life if parents are comfortable with their kids being read a story by a drag queen? It’s literally not that serious, but people are using it as a device to further their bigotry and people like you are being swept up along with it to further their cause, it’s a complete non issue.
Singer and actors are entertainers too, but they’ve been allowed to do things like this for god knows how long, they have an entire part on a kids channel dedicated to celebrities reading bedtime stories, why are drag queens treated differently? Because gay men are seen as dirty and sexualised, by the people against this, that’s why.
Just imagine how many dangerous people have been allowed in to do this exact same thing, without realising that they’re dangerous people, yet drag queens are the ones people are upset about and want banned from doing it, ask yourself why
Why does there have to be a goal or a point? Why can’t people just accept people from different walks of like being asked to do mundane things other people are asked to do?
Why does it affect someone’s life if parents are comfortable with their kids being read a story by a drag queen? It’s literally not that serious, but people are using it as a device to further their bigotry and people like you are being swept up along with it to further their cause, it’s a complete non issue.
Just imagine how many dangerous people have been allowed in to do this exact same thing, without realising that they’re dangerous people, yet drag queens are the ones people are upset about and want banned from doing it, ask yourself why
It's not that there a different walks of life, that's pretty much accepted by 90% of people. It's the sexualization from some drag queens. Which you wont address. Im not being swept along with it at all, im as open minded as they come. There are wrongs and rights in everything.
I don't see a problem with drag queens reading stories to kids at all. But i do have a problem with young children being exposed to sex and sexuality so soon in life. I would so 13 and upwards is when a child starts to discover who they really are. Puberty.
People like you are swept along with this idea that everyone who questions certain things are to further their hidden hate for those different to them. It's just simply not the case. Sure, people do mask their bigotry in many ways, but don't put everyone under the same umbrella. Parents have every right to ask the question. Just as they have every right to allow/take their kids to whatever they like.
Never any middle ground, ever.
Liam-
29-07-2022, 03:48 PM
I’ve already talked about the sexualised drag queens and said that yes, while a lot of drag artists do fall into that category, there are plenty of queens who are capable of being family friendly and not go out slut dropping and whipping their breast plates out in front of children at story time, if you’re gonna try and have a discussion, actually comprehend what people are saying, it always works a treat
I also didn’t say that everyone that questions this is a bigot, I said bigots are driving this narrative, but unfortunately along with that comes the genuine people who see the extreme headlines and examples that speak to their worst fears as parents and they unknowingly get swept up into the bigoted narrative and then they’re used as a shield to try and hide the blatantly bigoted route of of the movement, it’s the exact same thing happening with the war on trans people, it’s just a massive shame that so many people get caught up in it and allow themselves be used as weapons in an argument like this, they otherwise probably wouldn’t be involved in because it really is not that dramatic or important
Think what you want
I don't believe he ever was a paedo, and wrong actually .. plenty hated him . He was one of the most criticised & mocked. Even after he died , people can't stop obsessing over him .
If it wasn't his face & skin condition ,then it was the child abuse allegations that people kept slating him for.
I kinda think / wanna think that he was a little misunderstood as he had no childhood to speak of .. but there were some ‘worrying’ parts about his life in and around his home
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Jordan.
29-07-2022, 03:52 PM
It's not that there a different walks of life, that's pretty much accepted by 90% of people. It's the sexualization from some drag queens. Which you wont address. Im not being swept along with it at all, im as open minded as they come. There are wrongs and rights in everything.
I don't see a problem with drag queens reading stories to kids at all. But i do have a problem with young children being exposed to sex and sexuality so soon in life. I would so 13 and upwards is when a child starts to discover who they really are. Puberty.
People like you are swept along with this idea that everyone who questions certain things are to further their hidden hate for those different to them. It's just simply not the case. Sure, people do mask their bigotry in many ways, but don't put everyone under the same umbrella. Parents have every right to ask the question. Just as they have every right to allow/take their kids to whatever they like.
Never any middle ground, ever.
So you should just settle on that because none of anything else you wrote is happening at kids book readings.
I’ve already talked about the sexualised drag queens and said that yes, while a lot of drag artists do fall into that category, there are plenty of queens who are capable of being family friendly and not go out slut dropping and whipping their breast plates out in front of children at story time, if you’re gonna try and have a discussion, actually comprehend what people are saying, it always works a treat
We're not all bigots and homophobes Liam. Extremists are everywhere, no comprehension needed. But like this, and most discussions on said subject, there are plenty of examples of LGBT not being kid friendly. The question should be allowed to be asked by concerned parents. Progression is a way of life, i understand and accept that. And im happy we're creating a climate where any child and person can celebrate who they are, sexuality, gender, whatever. But boundaries are still needed. How we approach that without offending anyone i have no idea.
So you should just settle on that because none of anything else you wrote is happening at kids book readings.
Well it is, probably in a very minimal amount of readings, like the picture of that guy with his legs wide open showing off his bollocks to infants whilst reaching for a book.
But it's the same old crap, even questioning stuff is seen as wrong?
Liam-
29-07-2022, 04:07 PM
We're not all bigots and homophobes Liam. Extremists are everywhere, no comprehension needed. But like this, and most discussions on said subject, there are plenty of examples of LGBT not being kid friendly. The question should be allowed to be asked by concerned parents. Progression is a way of life, i understand and accept that. And im happy we're creating a climate where any child and person can celebrate who they are, sexuality, gender, whatever. But boundaries are still needed. How we approach that without offending anyone i have no idea.
Should probably read the other half of that post pal.
Also, the worry of genuine people about over sexualizing ANYTHING for kids is crucial right now. I know this isn't about the US, but the last thing any level headed person wants is their kids shagging in this day and age, what with the disgusting abortion laws put in place.
Christ i sound like an 80's Tory with this statement but - We really need to protect kids more than ever now.
Also, the worry of genuine people about over sexualizing ANYTHING for kids is crucial right now. I know this isn't about the US, but the last thing any level headed person wants is their kids shagging in this day and age, what with the disgusting abortion laws put in place.
Christ i sound like an 80's Tory with this statement but - We really need to protect kids more than ever now.
Liam-
29-07-2022, 04:09 PM
Well it is, probably in a very minimal amount of readings, like the picture of that guy with his legs wide open showing off his bollocks to infants whilst reaching for a book.
But it's the same old crap, even questioning stuff is seen as wrong?
I saw the tweet with the picture and there are no bollocks in sight, just a man in a skirt that sat down to read and was sufficiently covered up with no nudity, are we gonna call straight men wearing shorts that manspread groomers and inappropriate to be around children? Or are those labels kept purely the gay men?
Should probably read the other half of that post pal.
Yeah i read it Vince, doesn't change what im saying really.
(dunno about anyone else but the forum is being mega slow right now, it's taking forever to post)
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 04:12 PM
His meat and 2 veg have been pixillated out
Liam-
29-07-2022, 04:12 PM
Yeah i read it Vince, doesn't change what im saying really.
(dunno about anyone else but the forum is being mega slow right now, it's taking forever to post)
It makes what you’re saying completely irrelevant because the concept of family friendly queens has already been explained to you, multiple times, if you can’t separate drags queens and sexualisation that’s a you problem, dragging your misconceptions about a demographic of people into a discussion does everybody involved a disservice
It makes what you’re saying completely irrelevant because the concept of family friendly queens has already been explained to you, multiple times, if you can’t separate drags queens and sexualisation that’s a you problem, dragging your misconceptions about a demographic of people into a discussion does everybody involved a disservice
You obviously don't understand what im saying. In any case involving even potential sexualization with kids, the question should be allowed to be asked without fear of being labelled a bigot or homophobe.
You're saying that the drag in question is family friendly, and im saying that's fine by me. I was debating the bigger picture.
Maybe we've just reached a dead end with this.
(dunno about anyone else but the forum is being mega slow right now, it's taking forever to post)
Same .. sooo slow
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Liam-
29-07-2022, 04:23 PM
You obviously don't understand what im saying. In any case involving even potential sexualization with kids, the question should be allowed to be asked without fear of being labelled a bigot or homophobe.
You're saying that the drag in question is family friendly, and im saying that's fine by me. I was debating the bigger picture.
Maybe we've just reached a dead end with this.
No, I don’t understand what you’re saying, how would a drag queen reading a story, sexualise a child? It’s just a person reading a children’s book to a bunch of children, what could that possibly do to a child?
You’re using the exact arguments bigots use to complain about gay characters on tv or in books, I hope you know that
You obviously don't understand what im saying. In any case involving even potential sexualization with kids, the question should be allowed to be asked without fear of being labelled a bigot or homophobe.
You're saying that the drag in question is family friendly, and im saying that's fine by me. I was debating the bigger picture.
Maybe we've just reached a dead end with this.Unless you agree with him 100% then he'll never understand what you're saying.
If they call you thing's like transphobe, homophobe or any other name simply because you question things and don't submit to their ideology then they're not worth your time. You're free to have your say and don't let anyone think they can bully you out of having your say by them calling you names. Just Mock them back. They hate that.
No, I don’t understand what you’re saying, how would a drag queen reading a story, sexualise a child? It’s just a person reading a children’s book to a bunch of children, what could that possibly do to a child?
Because by your own admission, most, not all, drag queens do sexualize themselves during their act. When you read "drag queen reading for infants" you have every right to ask/wonder what that entails. It would be a non story if the headline was "drag queen reading for adults". It's not about buying the headline, it's about finding the ACTUAL story here.
As to your edit. No im not.
The whole point of drag queens is the act.
So if they are being drag queens they are being inappropriate in front of kids.
If they are not being drag queens then we need to find a new name for men dressed as women who read to kids.
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 04:43 PM
If the point is to normalise LGBT people, why not have (otherwise) normal LGBT people read a book? Or read a story about a character with two dads or two mums?
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 04:46 PM
If the point is to normalise LGBT people, why not have (otherwise) normal LGBT people read a book? Or read a story about a character with two dads or two mums?
Or just not bother trying to so anything and just read small children books and leave all that woke bollocks VS to adults?
I mean I am sure LIbrarians have lots of spare time as noone goes to libraries anymore
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 04:50 PM
Or just not bother trying to so anything and just read small children books and leave all that woke bollocks VS to adults?
Plenty of kids these days have gay parents :shrug: acknowledging that isn't "woke" or sexualising. And that's the best way to frame gay relationships to children - "two daddies" or "two mommies" is easier to understand than some freak whinging on about "queerness".
Plenty of kids these days have gay parents :shrug: acknowledging that isn't "woke" or sexualising. And that's the best way to frame gay relationships to children - "two daddies" or "two mommies" is easier to understand than some freak whinging on about "queerness".A very, very small minority compared to kids who have straight parents. The television just projects it to look different. For what reason? I don't know. There's obviously some agenda behind it.
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 05:10 PM
plenty of kids these days have gay parents :shrug: Acknowledging that isn't "woke" or sexualising. And that's the best way to frame gay relationships to children - "two daddies" or "two mommies" is easier to understand than some freak whinging on about "queerness".
when you say plenty
its a tiny minority
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 05:11 PM
If the point is to normalise LGBT people, why not have (otherwise) normal LGBT people read a book? Or read a story about a character with two dads or two mums?
Sorry to break it to you but you might think you are dead normal and not like other gays but homophobes are still gonna dislike you regardless.
Oliver_W
29-07-2022, 05:13 PM
A very, very small minority compared to kids who have straight parents. The television just projects it to look different. For what reason? I don't know. There's obviously some agenda behind it.
Then I'll put it another way - there's a disproportionate push for LGBT acceptance, it's probably not going away; would you rather the driving voices be people who just happen to be gay but apart from that act like everyone else ... Or creepy drag queens and people who want to spread "queerness" everywhere?
Sorry to break it to you but you might think you are dead normal and not like other gays but homophobes are still gonna dislike you regardless.Maybe you're just paranoid or have a low bar for people?
You seem to want gays to be protected from any insults or jokes being made against them almost like they should have a different set of rules to everyone else. Making a joke or a humorous insult is not hate, it's not discrimination. It's just what happens to everyone. It's just the same way gays make jokes or humorous insults about straight people or the same as you making insults by calling people bigots or gammon.
Discrimination is when you physically attack someone or stop them from doing something because of who they are. Words and opinions come under free speech unless it's a threat and free speech must be preserved at all cost and not given away to tyrants who would have us all in slavery if they could.
You're actually the one discriminating by thinking gays or any other so called minority should have a different set of rules to the rest, just for who they are.
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 05:44 PM
Maybe you're just paranoid or have a low bar for people?
You seem to want gays to be protected from any insults or jokes being made against them almost like they should have a different set of rules to everyone else. Making a joke or a humorous insult is not hate, it's not discrimination. It's just what happens to everyone. It's just the same way gays make jokes or humorous insults about straight people or the same as you making insults by calling people bigots or gammon.
Discrimination is when you physically attack someone or stop them from doing something because of who they are. Words and opinions come under free speech unless it's a threat and free speech must be preserved at all cost and not given away to tyrants who would have us all in slavery if they could.
These "drag queens" are taking the piss out of women
Its blatant misogyny
What is interesting is our left leaning members falling over themselves to defend them dont address this :shrug:
drag queens = blackface
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 05:56 PM
Maybe you're just paranoid or have a low bar for people?
You seem to want gays to be protected from any insults or jokes being made against them almost like they should have a different set of rules to everyone else. Making a joke or a humorous insult is not hate, it's not discrimination. It's just what happens to everyone. It's just the same way gays make jokes or humorous insults about straight people or the same as you making insults by calling people bigots or gammon.
Discrimination is when you physically attack someone or stop them from doing something because of who they are. Words and opinions come under free speech unless it's a threat and free speech must be preserved at all cost and not given away to tyrants who would have us all in slavery if they could.
You're actually the one discriminating by thinking gays or any other so called minority should have a different set of rules to the rest, just for who they are.
That's a whole load of assumptions but at least you posted something relevant to the thread.
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 06:10 PM
And they rightly still do.
WRONGLY still do :hee:
Unless you agree with him 100% then he'll never understand what you're saying.
If they call you thing's like transphobe, homophobe or any other name simply because you question things and don't submit to their ideology then they're not worth your time. You're free to have your say and don't let anyone think they can bully you out of having your say by them calling you names. Just Mock them back. They hate that.
It's sad, it holds back progression. Never question anything, and if you do, you're wrong.
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 06:18 PM
I kinda think / wanna think that he was a little misunderstood as he had no childhood to speak of .. but there were some ‘worrying’ parts about his life in and around his home
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He's not the first celebrity seen as "weird" , but that didn't mean he was a paedo . People of course hyped up his "weirdness" like he was the child catcher or something.
Also like you say ,he didn't have a proper childhood , therefore he was more naive & childlike still.
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 06:42 PM
Also as mentioned,not all drag queens are smutty & crude ,but of course these ones make the headlines.
That's a whole load of assumptions but at least you posted something relevant to the thread.Nobody has stopped them though have they? They've just shown concern for the intentions of the grown men dressed up as tarty women wanting to go into primary Schools to possibly indoctrinate primary school aged children. It's a bit weird and I think parents have a right to be concerned. And if their concern insults your ideology, then tough sh!t and get over yourself
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 06:54 PM
Nobody has stopped them though have they? They've just shown concern for the intentions of the grown men dressed up as tarty women wanting to go into primary Schools to possibly indoctrinate primary school aged children.
yep
chilling
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 07:19 PM
Nobody has stopped them though have they? They've just shown concern for the intentions of the grown men dressed up as tarty women wanting to go into primary Schools to possibly indoctrinate primary school aged children. It's a bit weird and I think parents have a right to be concerned. And if their concern insults your ideology, then tough sh!t and get over yourself
What are they protesting for if they don't want it to be stopped? There's no need to get yourself in a huff Alf I'm sure you'll get your way eventually in cancelling the drag queens.
AnnieK
29-07-2022, 07:30 PM
Nobody has stopped them though have they? They've just shown concern for the intentions of the grown men dressed up as tarty women wanting to go into primary Schools to possibly indoctrinate primary school aged children. It's a bit weird and I think parents have a right to be concerned. And if their concern insults your ideology, then tough sh!t and get over yourself
Its nothing to do with primary schools. Its a public library.....where you can choose to take your kids...or not?
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 07:32 PM
He doesn't even know what he's mad about he just knows he should be, free thinking and all that.
He doesn't even know what he's mad about he just knows he should be, free thinking and all that.You've made an error thinking I'm mad. I'm perfectly happy. I'm just able to see the concern of these parents.
Its nothing to do with primary schools. Its a public library.....where you can choose to take your kids...or not?In America they're opening clubs up to kids to attend where drag artists dance for them while the kids give them dollar bills like the way they do in strip clubs. Again, it's all very strange to me. So I can see why parents would be concerned.
What are they protesting for if they don't want it to be stopped? There's no need to get yourself in a huff Alf I'm sure you'll get your way eventually in cancelling the drag queens.Maybe they're concerned that the intentions are criminal? Maybe that's why they're protesting?
AnnieK
29-07-2022, 07:52 PM
You've made an error thinking I'm mad. I'm perfectly happy. I'm just able to see the concern of these parents.
I could get the concern if it was a compulsory event in a school. It wasn't. The parent's whose children attended were aware of the "show" and what it entailed. It was a ticketed event in a public library. The parent's of the children who attended stated that the performance was age appropriate and there was no inappropriate content or language.
AnnieK
29-07-2022, 07:54 PM
In America they're opening clubs up to kids to attend where drag artists dance for them while the kids give them dollar bills like the way they do in strip clubs. Again, it's all very strange to me. So I can see why parents would be concerned.
That's America. This is the UK....this event was a ticketed event as I keep saying. The parents attended. The Queen had a DBS check in place.
Jordan.
29-07-2022, 07:57 PM
Maybe they're concerned that the intentions are criminal? Maybe that's why they're protesting?
Sure so they want it shut down and cancelled just on a thought. Everyone who paid for tickets go home, the concerned folk who don't even have to be there don't want it going ahead.
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 07:59 PM
Hopefully the DBS checks were in legit?
Drag queens are supported in the main by women in their 30s. They are the ones who buy the tickets to see the shows in the pubs and clubs.
This drag queen will know this, so therefore hes made his readings available to parents with kids ranging from 3 to 11....and also in public libraries where women parents with kids that age(mostly in their 30s) will be the ones wanting to see a drag queen in action, not the kids.
This has nothing to do with education or acceptance, it's a simple marketing ploy.
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 08:34 PM
That's America. This is the UK....this event was a ticketed event as I keep saying. The parents attended. The Queen had a DBS check in place.
That's a good point Annie
GoldHeart
29-07-2022, 08:38 PM
Hopefully the DBS checks were in legit?
What like with Ian Huntley??? , Okay then ...
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 08:39 PM
Can you imagine it a parent booking this?
Are they the ones who dragged thier children to that clinic?
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2022, 08:39 PM
Can you imagine it a parent booking this?
Are they the ones who dragged thier children to that clinic?
That's America. This is the UK....this event was a ticketed event as I keep saying. The parents attended. The Queen had a DBS check in place.What's the aim though? The final goal?
If it's just to tell a story then why do they need to dress like a tart to tell that story?
Cherie
29-07-2022, 10:43 PM
Unknown men dressing up in costumes that are knowingly going to attract the attention of children? Sounds dodgy
you are missing the point, kids dont watch drag queens, they watch Paw Patrol and Frozen, they are the characters they can relate to
Crimson Dynamo
31-07-2022, 02:00 PM
using a childrens tv character who is a child herself to post that is chilling
The Slim Reaper
31-07-2022, 02:02 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/d3mlmtNPoxNrt4Bi/giphy.gif
Nicky91
31-07-2022, 02:09 PM
you are missing the point, kids dont watch drag queens, they watch Paw Patrol and Frozen, they are the characters they can relate to
being able to relate to a dog is even more weird though :skull:
The Slim Reaper
31-07-2022, 02:19 PM
More woke cancel culture gone mad :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
31-07-2022, 02:23 PM
being able to relate to a dog is even more weird though :skull:
Yes, heaven knows what Walt Disney were thinking when they made 101 Dalmations
:facepalm:
Liam-
31-07-2022, 02:30 PM
Gays use memes is one excuse for homophobia I didn’t think I’d ever see
The Slim Reaper
31-07-2022, 02:39 PM
Can kids cope with drag in pantomime?
Crimson Dynamo
31-07-2022, 03:02 PM
Can kids cope with drag in pantomime?
It is in no way comparable and has been dealt with earlier in the thread
do keep up slim
The Slim Reaper
31-07-2022, 03:04 PM
It is in no way comparable and has been dealt with earlier in the thread
do keep up slim
Haven't really kept up with the thread, but how was it dealt with? You got a page number?
Liam-
31-07-2022, 03:08 PM
Haven't really kept up with the thread, but how was it dealt with? You got a page number?
It was dealt with by ignoring pantomime dames proclivity for crude innuendos and insinuating drag queens are dirty horrible perverts because they do entertainment for adults in the nights
Can kids cope with drag in pantomime?
Do the parents care? most of the kids sitting watching this age between 6 months and 7 years.
Do they find it appropriate that some misogynist with an agenda is reading children's books that feature animals deficating on other animals, and monsters eating baby poos?
It was dealt with by ignoring pantomime dames proclivity for crude innuendos and insinuating drag queens are dirty horrible perverts because they do entertainment for adults in the nights
Would you let a stripper come, dressed as a stripper. To read to kids?
Crimson Dynamo
31-07-2022, 03:27 PM
Do the parents care? most of the kids sitting watching this age between 6 months and 7 years.
Do they find it appropriate that some misogynist with an agenda is reading children's books that feature animals dedicating on other animals, and monsters eating baby poos?
He seems very aggressive and angry in that video, he really should not be let near children - he needs counseling for that hatred
:umm2:
Nicky91
01-08-2022, 01:42 PM
name and shame these protesters then, i really wanna know now who these people are
imagine being triggered over a innocent drag act :umm2:
Crimson Dynamo
01-08-2022, 01:45 PM
name and shame these protesters then, i really wanna know now who these people are
imagine being triggered over a innocent drag act :umm2:
One was called Margaret one Tracy and one was Olivia
Oh and Sadie and her husband Dave
Nicky91
01-08-2022, 01:46 PM
One was called Margaret one Tracy and one was Olivia
Oh and Sadie and her husband Dave
then they can join a anti-drag social group, with turds like Viktor Orban, Recep Erdogan
protesters like these need to be exiled from the country, making UK look almost as bad as vile homophobic nations Hungary and Turkey
:facepalm:
then they can join a anti-drag social group, with turds like Viktor Orban, Recep Erdogan
protesters like these need to be exiled from the country, making UK look almost as bad as vile homophobic nations Hungary and Turkey
:facepalm:
The vast majority of them are local parents.
The Slim Reaper
01-08-2022, 02:08 PM
The vast majority of them are local parents.
Like the attendees?
Oliver_W
01-08-2022, 03:54 PM
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Gays use memes is one excuse for homophobia I didn’t think I’d ever see
To be faaaiir, most people who work with kids and/or in the public eye should have a "clean" social media presence.
To be faaaiir, most people who work with kids and/or in the public eye should have a "clean" social media presence.
Exactly !!
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Crimson Dynamo
01-08-2022, 05:50 PM
exactly !!
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amen
its astounding to think you would disagree for "tribal" reasons
Like the attendees?
Yes, but not the opposing lgbt protestors
3 and a half hours you dont want to miss.
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Live in brighton....
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The Slim Reaper
04-08-2022, 12:51 PM
This thread still going? :laugh:
This thread still going? :laugh:
Coming at you live no less...
Name me any other thread that provides such quality.
The Slim Reaper
04-08-2022, 12:58 PM
Coming at you live no less...
Name me any other thread that provides such quality.
Nickys strictly threads :laugh:
arista
04-08-2022, 01:32 PM
Trust Piers Corbyn
to drive down to the Brighton Drag Queen Outside fight
Yes Parmy good video
Raw reports
Nickys strictly threads :laugh:
Of you go then.
Nicky91
04-08-2022, 01:43 PM
i'm definitely not clicking on those video links, no need to see that sort of homophobic trash
obsessive behaviour against drag queens much :bored:
almost as if they committed a murder, oh wait just harmless reading to children
arista
04-08-2022, 01:44 PM
[NO ARRESTS have been made at a large
gathering of protesters in a row
about a drag queen book reading event.
Protests started from around 10am this
morning outside the Jubilee Library
in Jubilee Street, Brighton.
A small group of protesters,
including Jeremy Corbyn’s brother Piers Corbyn,
were met by hundreds of people protesting
in solidarity of a drag queen doing a book
read for children.]
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/20600725.sussex-police-statement-brighton-protest-drag-queen-event/
The Slim Reaper
04-08-2022, 01:45 PM
Trust Piers Corbyn
to drive down to the Brighton Drag Queen Outside fight
Yes Parmy good video
Raw reports
Is Piers on Parms side?
arista
04-08-2022, 01:47 PM
https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/14335404.jpg?type=article-full
arista
04-08-2022, 01:47 PM
Is Piers on Parms side?
I doubt it
Nicky91
04-08-2022, 01:50 PM
Piers is on the grant sisters their side, are they anywhere to be seen just wondering?
i'm definitely not clicking on those video links, no need to see that sort of homophobic trash
obsessive behaviour against drag queens much :bored:
almost as if they committed a murder, oh wait just harmless reading to children
You wouldnt want this drag queen reading to your kids, he has a history on facebook of supporting paedophilia.
Is Piers on Parms side?
Yes, yes he is.
Not quite the nut job we all had him down as.
One meme post he posted brags about having sex with 11 year olds.
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