Trumps home raided by FBI

[bots]

Former US President Donald Trump has said his Florida home has been raided by the FBI.

Mr Trump said in a statement Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach was "occupied by a large group of FBI agents".

CBS News, the BBC's US partner, reports that the raid was connected to an investigation into Mr Trump's handling of official papers.

Mr Trump is also currently the focus of a congressional inquiry into last year's US Capitol riot.

According to CNN, Mr Trump was in Trump Tower in New York City at the time of Monday's reported raid.

"These are dark times for our Nation," Mr Trump's statement began.

He said he had co-operated with all relevant government agencies and so the "unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate".

Mr Trump said it amounted to "prosecutorial misconduct" and "the weaponisation of the Justice System" to prevent him from running for the White House again in 2024.

"Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries," he said. "Sadly, America has now become one of those Countries, corrupt at a level not seen before.

"They even broke into my safe!"

CBS News has confirmed that the FBI's execution of the search warrant on Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate was related to an investigation into the handling of National Archives records.

In February, the National Archives, the US government agency that manages the preservation of presidential records, asked the justice department to investigate Mr Trump for his handling of official papers.

US presidents are required by law to transfer all of their letters, work documents and emails to the National Archives.

But officials say the former president illegally ripped up many documents.

Some of them had to be taped back together, the Archives said. Mr Trump at the time rejected reports that he had mishandled official records as "fake news".

A senior Trump adviser in Palm Beach told CBS the raid by federal agents on Mar-a-Lago was about the presidential records.

"This is about the PRA [Presidential Records Act violations]," said the Trump source, who only agreed to speak on condition of anonymity.

"When have you ever heard about a raid because of PRA?"

The source added: "They [the FBI] just left and they left with very little."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62472908

[arista]

[But officials say the former president illegally ripped up many documents.]


Typical Trump

[Alf]

Wow! The deep state really are on the retreat and in total panic mode right now. To do this to your political opponents in America tells you they're fighting for their lives. This is KGB sh!t. They've shown their hand now, exactly who they are. There's no going back from this.

[arista]

Its the FBI.


[Formed July 26, 1908 (as the Bureau of Investigation)]

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[Mystic Mock]

Wow! The deep state really are on the retreat and in total panic mode right now. To do this to your political opponents in America tells you they're fighting for their lives. This is KGB sh!t. They've shown their hand now, exactly who they are. There's no going back from this.

Tbf he might've genuinely done something criminal.

[Alf]

They told you Trump will go full Hitler but the reality is, Biden went full Stalin.

[Alf]

Tbf he might've genuinely done something criminal.To the deep state, he did. He exposed them to the World.

[arista]

To the deep state, he did. He exposed them to the World.


No
it was Crime while he was President.

[Alf]

No
it was Crime while he was President.What, a crime like going to Epstein Island? Sure it was.

[Alf]

They have plans for us all.



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[arista]

What, a crime like going to Epstein Island? Sure it was.

No, not like that

[Alf]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/09/01/61196725-11093449-image-a-14_1660004921950.jpg
[Trump didn't say specifically what the federal agents
were looking for,
just that his Florida home was 'under siege, raided,
and occupied by a large group of FBI agents']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11093449/FBI-agents-raid-Mar-Lago-Trump-says-home-siege-agents.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/09/02/61197543-11093449-image-a-20_1660007278896.jpg
[Trump took 15 boxes of material with him in
January 2021 after he left Washington D.C.
The boxes were returned to the National Archives
a year later in January 2022 but agents on Monday
were looking to see if Trump had additional material;
above workers move boxes
out of the Trump White House on January 14, 2021]

[Alf]

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[Mystic Mock]

To the deep state, he did. He exposed them to the World.

We'll have to see on that.

I mean the world is in a ****ed up state so anything is possible at this point in Politics.

[bots]

The raid was worth it just to watch Alf's meltdown :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Christ, even if he did have something to do with Jan6, doesn't excuse his house being torn apart.

Do they think he has physical copies of the tweets in a house on the literal opposite coast?

Whatever you think about him, it sounds like spite rather than an actual investigation.

[bots]

Christ, even if he did have something to do with Jan6, doesn't excuse his house being torn apart.

Do they think he has physical copies of the tweets in a house on the literal opposite coast?

Whatever you think about him, it sounds like spite rather than an actual investigation.

they are talking about official government documents, not tweets

[arista]

they are talking about official government documents, not tweets


Yes


Trump has left a Complex Path

[MTVN]

Unless they find something seriously compromising, this could actually be a massive gift to Trump

[bots]

Unless they find something seriously compromising, this could actually be a massive gift to Trump

i don't think it matters much either way. Views are so entrenched on both sides that opinions wont change. I think the investigations will continue all the way up to the next presidential election.

The latest from meta/facebook is that they are ramping down on taking action on election interference, so it's pretty clear which way the wind is blowing

[arista]

Those documents
are meant to be left in the White House.
MTVN

Your not mean't to take them home

[Crimson Dynamo]

seems a political move more than anything

[bots]

seems a political move more than anything

everything can be viewed as a political move. The FBI will have to come clean on whether they found anything or not very quickly, so it could actually help trump clear his name

[The Slim Reaper]

Wow! The deep state really are on the retreat and in total panic mode right now. To do this to your political opponents in America tells you they're fighting for their lives. This is KGB sh!t. They've shown their hand now, exactly who they are. There's no going back from this.

A touch dramatic. Dems don't direct the FBI. The director was actually put in place by yer man, Donald.

[Alf]

A touch dramatic. Dems don't direct the FBI. The director was actually put in place by yer man, Donald.The director was voted in by the senate or the House, one of the two. Biden directs the FBI and he's used them to raid his political opponent. With all the email wiping and bleaching with Hillary, Trump never resorted to that.

[The Slim Reaper]

The director was voted in by the senate. Biden directs the FBI

After being nominated by Trump. The senate doesn't pick names out of hats to confirm.

The FBI doesn't work for the president.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.econlib.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Screen-Shot-2019-11-28-at-12.55.40-PM.png

[Liam-]

After being nominated by Trump. The senate doesn't pick names out of hats to confirm.

The FBI doesn't work for the president.

Much to Trump’s obvious dismay when they wouldn’t do his personal bidding

[The Slim Reaper]

Scary stuff

[The Slim Reaper]

The director was voted in by the senate or the House, one of the two. Biden directs the FBI and he's used them to raid his political opponent. With all the email wiping and bleaching with Hillary, Trump never resorted to that.

You do realise that Hilary was cleared of all accusations, and trump is currently under investigation for stealing/destroying records from his time as pres?

Trump may have done far worse, or he may have committed no offence just like Hilary, but the problem arises that whenever trump is accused of anything, you all jump on grenades and pretend there is no merit to anything.

[arista]

After being nominated by Trump. The senate doesn't pick names out of hats to confirm.

The FBI doesn't work for the president.



Yes Slim
and Trump picked this great FBI leader

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation


He is good at his job.
Those Documents belong
in the White House.


Alf knows that
but is still posting crap

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes Slim
and Trump picked this great FBI leader

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation


He is good at his job.
Those Documents belong
in the White House.


Alf knows that
but is still posting crap

Thank you Arista

[arista]

https://www.econlib.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Screen-Shot-2019-11-28-at-12.55.40-PM.png



Is that a new Thriller
in 4K?

[Alf]

You do realise that Hilary was cleared of all accusations, and trump is currently under investigation for stealing/destroying records from his time as pres?

Trump may have done far worse, or he may have committed no offence just like Hilary, but the problem arises that whenever trump is accused of anything, you all jump on grenades and pretend there is no merit to anything.Come on fella, they've had Hunter Biden's laptop for over two years which incriminate him and his dad. They've got the names in Maxwell's black book and have for a long time. There is video footage of a guy called Ray Epps orchestrating people to go into the capital on January 6th 2021.

These people haven't been touched. But they're gonna raid a former President over some paperwork which he sent back? Doesn't make any sense.

I think there's far more to this than what we know. Maybe there was a reason Trump appointed Wray, maybe Trump wanted Wray front and centre to expose him just like Trump did with Dr Fauci and possibly Mike Pence.

The Q followers believe Wray is a sleeper on Trump's side and this is all part of taking down the FBI. Obviously the Q followers can easily be debunked by simply calling them conspiracy theorists. So we don't need to listen to them

If you think whatever the mainstream media is telling you is what's happening, then you have no clue. Trump has done many rallies himself and you have to listen to what he says because within days of him saying it, things happen. I will try and find a video of what he said on Friday night that connects to what happened last night. I bet there is one.

[Jordan.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/09/02/61197543-11093449-image-a-20_1660007278896.jpg
[Trump took 15 boxes of material with him in
January 2021 after he left Washington D.C.
The boxes were returned to the National Archives
a year later in January 2022 but agents on Monday
were looking to see if Trump had additional material;
above workers move boxes
out of the Trump White House on January 14, 2021]

This is just his photo collection of the daughter he wants to ****.

[arista]

This is just his photo collection of the daughter he wants to ****.



No, that's illegal

[arista]

"Hunter Biden's laptop"


Yes that was on CNN HD
at last.

But nothing to do with this in Florida

[Alf]

"Hunter Biden's laptop"


Yes that was on CNN HD
at last.

But nothing to do with this in FloridaWhat was on CNN HD? Did the FBI raid Hunter Biden's home? Did they raid Joe Biden? What was on CNN? did they just finally admit that the conspiracy theorists were right and the laptop does exist and then quickly drop that story and move on to something else?

It's all connected where do you get the idea that all these incidents are all icolated?

[The Slim Reaper]

Come on fella, they've had Hunter Biden's laptop for over two years which incriminate him and his dad. They've got the names in Maxwell's black book and have for a long time. There is video footage of a guy called Ray Epps orchestrating people to go into the capital on January 6th 2021.

These people haven't been touched. But they're gonna raid a former President over some paperwork which he sent back? Doesn't make any sense.

I think there's far more to this than what we know. Maybe there was a reason Trump appointed Wray, maybe Trump wanted Wray front and centre to expose him just like Trump did with Dr Fauci and possibly Mike Pence.

The Q followers believe Wray is a sleeper on Trump's side and this is all part of taking down the FBI. Obviously the Q followers can easily be debunked by simply calling them conspiracy theorists. So we don't need to listen to them

If you think whatever the mainstream media is telling you is what's happening, then you have no clue. Trump has done many rallies himself and you have to listen to what he says because within days of him saying it, things happen. I will try and find a video of what he said on Friday night that connects to what happened last night. I bet there is one.

And sill, beyond drug abuse or drug linked crimes, I've not seen one direct allegation of a crime committed by either Hunter or Joe that has resulted from anything found on the laptop. If you don't understand how crazy Q is after all this time, and how many times they've switched up their story, then you're beyond salvaging at this point.

[The Slim Reaper]

And Epps has been touched, but unless he's convicted of orchestrating the whole thing on behalf of Antifa, you won't accept he's not part of the plan.

[Alf]

And sill, beyond drug abuse or drug linked crimes, I've not seen one direct allegation of a crime committed by either Hunter or Joe that has resukted from anything found on the laptop. If you don't understand how crazy Q is after all this time, and how many times they've switched up their story, then you're beyond salvaging at this point.The laptop evidence is out there online, if you want to find out then you need to go find it. The deep state isn't gonna deliver it for you because it involves them.

You speak about Q exactly the same way the mainstream media speaks about them. The same language. I don't need you to explain Q to me because I can tell that I understand it and what it is, much more than you do. I can debunk them in a totally different manner than you do because I actually listen to what they say whereas you just go by what the smear merchants of them tell you what they say. I see thousands of your type every single day on twitter.

[The Slim Reaper]

The laptop evidence is out there online, if you want to find out then you need to go find it. The deep state isn't gonna deliver it for you because it involves them.

You speak about Q exactly the same way the mainstream media speaks about them. The same language. I don't need you to explain Q to me because I can tell that I understand it and what it is, much more than you do. I can debunk them in a totally different manner than you do because I actually listen to what they say whereas you just go by what the smear merchants of them tell you what they say.

We've had the laptop discussion before, and I gave you every chance to provide one accusation, not even a crime, just an accusation. You couldn't do it. Then you provided vids of fox hosts saying it was bad, without them even making one accusation.

Fox is the most viewed news channel in the US, making them the epitome of mainstream news, so why are they so great, but a mainstream news that disagrees with you, is all fake. i was creating threads about Q on here, before mainstream news even touched them, so that doesn't really make a lot of sense.

My love of mainstream media is well known, so of course I'll regurgitate whatever the news I don't follow tells me to think :laugh:

[Alf]

We've had the laptop discussion before, and I gave you every chance to provide one accusation, not even a crime, just an accusation. You couldn't do it. Then you provided vids of fox hosts saying it was bad, without them even making one accusation.

Fox is the most viewed news channel in the US, making them the epitome of mainstream news, so why are they so great, but a mainstream news that disagrees with you, is all fake. i was creating threads about Q on here, before mainstream news even touched them, so that doesn't really make a lot of sense.

My love of mainstream media is well known, so of course I'll regurgitate whatever the news I don't follow tells me to think :laugh:Fox are the worst of them all. Where did you get the idea they were great?

I'm not your source of information and I can never be You have to be your own. If you really want to know about the Hunter Biden laptop then you will go look for it. Start with the people who claim they actually have a copy of the laptop.

[The Slim Reaper]

Fox are the worst of them all. Where did you get the idea they were great?

I'm not your source of information and I can never be You have to be your own. If you really want to know about the Hunter Biden laptop then you will go look for it. Start with the people who claim they actually have a copy of the laptop.

You posted a vid of someone on fox talking about the laptop which they'd seen. I've done my homework, and still can't find a solid accusation. Just one. The greatest scandal in modern politics, where the side calling for prosecution has the solid evidence, and they haven't made one claim that goes beyond whisper or innuendo.

I can at least tell you of all the crimes I think trump may/not have committed, so I don't think it's a stretch to expect the same with the bidens.

[Beso]

Biden's been raping children for years.

[Alf]

You posted a vid of someone on fox talking about the laptop which they'd seen. I've done my homework, and still can't find a solid accusation. Just one. The greatest scandal in modern politics, where the side calling for prosecution has the solid evidence, and they haven't made one claim that goes beyond whisper or innuendo.

I can at least tell you of all the crimes I think trump may/not have committed, so I don't think it's a stretch to expect the same with the bidens.This is from the US senate questioning the deputy of cyber at the FBI.

Senator Matt Gaetz sort of indicates what is on it here. I believe Gaetz claims to have seen it and is in possession of.

You can again brush this off and tell me it isn't good enough for you (which is what you will do) or you can thank me for doing a quick, simple bit of research for you because you don't want to, you just want to try and win an argument on Tibb?


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[Swan]

Outcome 1 - Nothing is found, those who support Trump say "told you so" as will Trump. Those against Trump will say "he destroyed evidence, he's guilty as hell"

Outcome 2 - They find something, Trump supporters will say "they planted it on him" as will Trump. Those against Trump will say "ha, knew it, he's guilty as sin, deserves life in jail"


https://c.tenor.com/cz4tOBk-HK0AAAAC/rowing-boat.gif

[The Slim Reaper]

This is from the US senate questioning the deputy of cyber at the FBI.

Senator Matt Gaetz sort of indicates what is on it here. I believe Gaetz claims to have seen it and is in possession of.

You can again brush this off and tell me it isn't good enough for you (which is what you will do) or you can thank me for doing a quick, simple bit of research for you because you don't want to, you just want to try and win an argument on Tibb?




Matt Gaetz isn't a senator for starters, and he's currently under investigation for child sex trafficking, which was started when trump was pres

Of course it's not good enough. It's perfectly clear that the aim is to keep it in the news rather than making direct accusations that can easily be refuted, or maybe not so easily refuted and they could be prosecuted.

If I accuse someone of a crime and you then ask me what crime, if my reply is "ooooh, it's serious, really bad", then you're within your rights to think I'm talking bollocks. all these republicans have seen it, and not one of them has said anything more than "ooooh, it's serious, really bad."

[The Slim Reaper]

If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

ndjz1Ehmyy0

[Liam-]

I don’t know about anybody else but the so called party of “law and order” only ever seem to like it when the law isn’t upheld against them specifically, it’s almost like they believe they should be above the law

[arista]

What was on CNN HD? Did the FBI raid Hunter Biden's home? Did they raid Joe Biden? What was on CNN? did they just finally admit that the conspiracy theorists were right and the laptop does exist and then quickly drop that story and move on to something else?

It's all connected where do you get the idea that all these incidents are all icolated?


On Sunday
they debated on Reliable Sources
4PM show USA show on UK
CNN HD.
That Hunter Biden is a Problem for President Biden,
As the FBI are now looking into his crimes.


I thnk it would better if he was dead.

[Alf]

Matt Gaetz isn't a senator for starters, and he's currently under investigation for child sex trafficking, which was started when trump was pres

Of course it's not good enough. It's perfectly clear that the aim is to keep it in the news rather than making direct accusations that can easily be refuted, or maybe not so easily refuted and they could be prosecuted.

If I accuse someone of a crime and you then ask me what crime, if my reply is "ooooh, it's serious, really bad", then you're within your rights to think I'm talking bollocks. all these republicans have seen it, and not one of them has said anything more than "ooooh, it's serious, really bad."House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?

[Alf]

If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

ndjz1Ehmyy0Give us some time lines on the video where I need to listen. I ain't got an hour 45 to waste on this.

[The Slim Reaper]

House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?

No, it doesn't work like that. I can tell you exactly the crime he is being investigated for, and that an investigation is well underway with co-operating witnesses. Now you do the same with hunters crimes, and we'll finally be in the same place :smug:

[Liam-]

Trumpism, at this point, is a mental health epidemic

[The Slim Reaper]

Give us some time lines on the video where I need to listen. I ain't got an hour 45 to waste on this.

I heard the podcast ages ago, I'm not going through the whole vid to time stamp it. I'm just providing the interview - it's your choice to listen to it or not.

[bots]

House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?

Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.


The investigation was opened in the final months of the Trump administration under Attorney General William P. Barr, the two people said. Given Mr. Gaetz’s national profile, senior Justice Department officials in Washington — including some appointed by Mr. Trump — were notified of the investigation, the people said.

[Read more on what we know about the investigation of Matt Gaetz.]

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.html

[Alf]

No, it doesn't work like that. I can tell you exactly the crime he is being investigated for, and that an investigation is well underway with co-operating witnesses. Now you do the same with hunters crimes, and we'll finally be in the same place :smug:I've just posted you a video of Gaetz who claims he's in possession of the laptop and he suggests things about Hunters business deals with foreign countries that could be a national security threat and possibly put Fake President Biden in a position to be blackmailed by those countries.

That's a huge threat to us all in the West.

If Gaetz is in possession of this do you think the deep state would want to smear him with something to take the scent off of them? They investigated Trump for almost all his Presidency with the Russia collusion stuff and it turned out to be made up bull. Is it possible they might be doing the same with Gaetz?

[Alf]

Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.


The investigation was opened in the final months of the Trump administration under Attorney General William P. Barr, the two people said. Given Mr. Gaetz’s national profile, senior Justice Department officials in Washington — including some appointed by Mr. Trump — were notified of the investigation, the people said.

[Read more on what we know about the investigation of Matt Gaetz.]

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.htmlDo you find it odd that Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking yet not one of her clients have been investigated but Gaetz is fair game for investigation on what exactly?

[The Slim Reaper]

I've just posted you a video of Gaetz who claims he's in possession of the laptop and he suggests things about Hunters business deals with foreign countries that could be a national security threat and possibly put Fake President Biden in a position to be blackmailed by those countries.

That's a huge threat to us all in the West.

If Gaetz is in possession of this do you think the deep state would want to smear him with something to take the scent of them? They investigated Trump for almost all his Presidency with the Russia collusion stuff and it turned out to be made up bull. Is it possible they might be doing the same with Gaetz?

I watched the twitter vid you posted, and it was nothing more than whispers/innuendo.

I think Gaetz's own venmo evidence probably means that the imaginary deep state doesn't need to get involved.

What I don't understand with you Alf, is that you seem relatively anti-establishment, and yet the right is the most powerful political ideology around, and yet you fall in lockstep with everything they tell you.

The Russia collusion stuff wasn't proved to be nothing at all. Lots of people went to jail, and Mueller - the author of the report believed he'd left it open for Trump to be prosecuted when he left office. Bill Barr shut all that down to protect Trump.

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you find it odd that Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking yet not one of her clients have been investigated but Gaetz is fair game for investigation on what exactly?

I agree with you completely about Maxwell. The lack of curiosity they showed to protect the powerful is shameful.

[Alf]

Trumpism, at this point, is a mental health epidemicYeah but you believe men can be women by just saying that they are themselves.

[Beso]

It's a bit hot for tea today

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the Regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic.</p>&mdash; Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantisFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RonDeSantisFL/status/1556803433939755010?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump posted this on Truth Social an hour ago. 👀 <a href="https://t.co/n6tlfOmwG0">pic.twitter.com/n6tlfOmwG0</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bostic (@debostic) <a href="https://twitter.com/debostic/status/1556884777424265218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Alf]

"The best is yet to come"

[Jordan.]

If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

ndjz1Ehmyy0

This isn't bitesize tidbits from twitter :yuk:

[Alf]

Judge Reinhart signed the warrant.

I bet he has a dark past.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Alf]

Judge Reinhart signed the warrant.

I bet he has a dark past.Good question. What are the odds?

I wish TS was here to give us some odds.



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[The Slim Reaper]

What difference does it make if he was? Especially as Trump himself was a well known "friend" of Epstein.

Never anything concrete beyond whispers and innuendo.

[Alf]

What difference does it make if he was? Especially as Trump himself was a well known "friend" of Epstein.

Never anything concrete beyond whispers and innuendo.Sorry for evidence gathering and trying to put the jigsaw pieces together. I'll shut up and say nothing shall I?

You're coming across very privliged thinking that everything should be laid out on your lap as concrete. As if a guy on his phone in Hull, England just trying to make sense of things and discussing it on a forum should have only concrete evidence or stay quiet.

[bots]

Sorry for evidence gathering and trying to put the jigsaw pieces together. I'll shut up and say nothing shall I?

You're coming across very privliged thinking that everything should be laid out on your lap as concrete. As if a guy on his phone in Hull, England just trying to make sense of things and discussing it on a forum should have only concrete evidence or stay quiet.

so what your saying is that you readily accept BS when it's peddled by Trump and his cronies, but demand hard evidence from everyone else

[The Slim Reaper]

Sorry for evidence gathering and trying to put the jigsaw pieces together. I'll shut up and say nothing shall I?

You're coming across very privliged thinking that everything should be laid out on your lap as concrete. As if a guy on his phone in Hull, England just trying to make sense of things and discussing it on a forum should have only concrete evidence or stay quiet.

Fortunately for me and my privilege, we are not under investigation by the fbi (to my knowledge at least), and a search warrant wasn't issued for them to search my crib.

Instead of being curious as to why they did that, or asking yourself what he might have done, you've brought hunter into a thread that is nothing to do with him, and are now trying to minimise anyone involved in the investigation. That's not putting jigsaw pieces together, that's painting your own picture, chopping it up, and then pretending it's a jigsaw.

[Alf]

so what your saying is that you readily accept BS when it's peddled by Trump and his cronies, but demand hard evidence from everyone elseWhere did I say that, Kathy Newman?

[The Slim Reaper]

Alf have you watched any of the Jan 6th hearings? serious question.

[Alf]

Fortunately for me and my privilege, we are not under investigation by the fbi (to my knowledge at least), and a search warrant wasn't issued for them to search my crib.

Instead of being curious as to why they did that, or asking yourself what he might have done, you've brought hunter into a thread that is nothing to do with him, and are now trying to minimise anyone involved in the investigation. That's not putting jigsaw pieces together, that's painting your own picture, chopping it up, and then pretending it's a jigsaw.Because I'm entitled to form my own opinion and be suspicious on the basis of everything that has been presented of Trump since he came down those steps in 2015. So while Arista will lay out the mainstream narrative of what's going on, I like to put out an alternative narrative by questioning that and pointing out why everything is not what it seems and that there is another side to the story.

My interest is trying to get to the truth of what's going on, if that makes me come across as looking bias then I can't help that in the same way you can't help looking bias towards Corbyn or remain. When you feel you're onto something then you're gonna run with it.

[Alf]

Alf have you watched any of the Jan 6th hearings? serious question.No.

Probably a showtrail. All about the midterms and gaining votes would be my opinion.

[The Slim Reaper]

Because I'm entitled to form my own opinion and be suspicious on the basis of everything that has been presented of Trump since he came down those steps in 2015. So while Arista will lay out the mainstream narrative of what's going on, I like to put out an alternative narrative by questioning that and pointing out why everything is not what it seems and that there is another side to the story.

My interest is trying to get to the truth of what's going on, if that makes me come across as looking bias then I can't help that in the same way you can't help looking bias towards Corbyn or remain. When you feel you're onto something then you're gonna run with it.

The difference, Alf, is that Corbyns policies would have helped this country. especially at the moment, and brexit has been a disaster for the whole country apart from the extremely wealthy tax dodgers. My loyalty is towards the policies of JC, and I'd support anyone else who publicly stood on them. You've gone down a q conspiracy rabbit hole to defend the former leader of another country who hasn't shown a smidge of the loyalty he demands, to anyone else.

Loyalty to ideas is understandable, loyalty to a conspiracy rich former president of a different country, is not.

[The Slim Reaper]

No.

Probably a showtrail. All about the midterms and gaining votes would be my opinion.

There you go, you have the opportunity to actually find out what he's done yet you show no interest.

[Alf]

There you go, you have the opportunity to actually find out what he's done yet you show no interest.I know they showed an edited video of him when he actually told the people to go home peacefully which shows he didn't incite anything. And I've seen the footage of Ray Epps actually directing the people to the Capitol building. Yet I don't believe Mr Epps has been called forward in the investigation to give evidence. I've also seen footage of what looks like Antifa members actually being the ones who initially broke in and I've seen footage of the Police waving people in.

But no, I haven't watched the actual investigation but I do see the odd people talking about it.

[The Slim Reaper]

I know they showed an edited video of him when he actually told the people to go home peacefully which shows he didn't incite anything. And I've seen the footage of Ray Epps actually directing the people to the Capitol building. Yet I don't believe Mr Epps has been called forward in the investigation to give evidence. I've also seen footage of what looks like Antifa members actually being the ones who initially broke in and I've seen footage of the Police waving people in.

But no, I haven't watched the actual investigation but I do see the odd people talking about it.

Epps has been investigated, a quick google will confirm this. The rest isn't an accurate portrayal. The chaos had been happening for hours when he released that, and he didn't even want to do it.

What distinguishes them as Antifa and what would be their purpose? Trump had lost the election at this point, so helping him try to do a coup would have only hurt themselves.

[Alf]

The difference, Alf, is that Corbyns policies would have helped this country. especially at the moment, and brexit has been a disaster for the whole country apart from the extremely wealthy tax dodgers. My loyalty is towards the policies of JC, and I'd support anyone else who publicly stood on them. You've gone down a q conspiracy rabbit hole to defend the former leader of another country who hasn't shown a smidge of the loyalty he demands, to anyone else.

Loyalty to ideas is understandable, loyalty to a conspiracy rich former president of a different country, is not.Yeah but millions and millions more people believe in Trump than they do Corbyn. So while I may have gone down a conspiracy rabbit hole iyo, It's not as if I'm alone. What's the alternative, Wear a mask and take my medicine?

[Alf]

Epps has been investigated, a quick google will confirm this. The rest isn't an accurate portrayal. The chaos had been happening for hours when he released that, and he didn't even want to do it.

What distinguishes them as Antifa and what would be their purpose? Trump had lost the election at this point, so helping him try to do a coup would have only hurt themselves.The face coverings and similar actions is what distinguish them. What would be the purpose of Hitler's Brownshirts?

I don't believe Trump lost, so there's that too.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yeah but millions and millions more people believe in Trump than they do Corbyn. So while I may of gone down a conspiracy rabbit hole, It's not as if I'm alone. What's the alternative, Wear a mask and take my medicine?

Billions more believe in Allah or Yaweh. Do you think they have some piece of truth that has eluded you?

[Alf]

Billions more believe in Allah or Yaweh. Do you think they have some piece of truth that has eluded you?But your comparing a religious ideology with political corruption. Two entirely different things.

[The Slim Reaper]

But your comparing a religious ideology with political corruption. Two entirely different things.

Not in this instance. Trump has become a religious figure to his followers as no amount of evidence will convince them of anything.

[Alf]

Not in this instance. Trump has become a religious figure to his followers as no amount of evidence will convince them of anything.Rubbish. Don't think for one minute that I don't ever question that Trump isn't part of all this New World over take over, a plant. I may not put that out on here but I do regularly question it to myself.

All I know is things are not right. Things are not making sense. People are being untruthful and covering up obvious criminality. Assange locked up is not right. The Epstein stuff, the circumstances how he died does not make sense. COVID does not make sense. What the World Economic Forum are preaching in the open is not sounding right. The wars going on are not making sense. The censoring of the sitting President of the USA at the time doesn't seem right. The open borders in Western countries where people are flooding in doesn't seem right.

[The Slim Reaper]

Rubbish. Don't think for one minute that I don't ever question that Trump isn't part of all this New World over take over a plant. I may not put that out on here but I do regularly question it to myself.

All I know is things are not right. Things are not making sense. People are being untruthful and covering up obvious criminality. Assange locked up is not right. The Epstein stuff, the circumstances how he died does not make sense. COVID does not make sense. What the World Economic Forum are preaching in the open is not sounding right. The wars going on are not making sense. The censoring of the sitting President of the USA at the time doesn't seem right. The open borders in Western countries where people are flooding in doesn't seem right.

I'm with you on Assange and Epstein, especially Assange.

The president wasn't censored he was banned, for lying about elections that caused his fanatics to do the coup thing. Free speech doesn't cover everything. Even in the US, free speech has limits.

There aren't any open borders.

[Alf]

I'm with you on Assange and Epstein, especially Assange.

The president wasn't censored he was banned, for lying about elections that caused his fanatics to do the coup thing. Free speech doesn't cover everything. Even in the US, free speech has limits.

There aren't any open borders.So if Twitter or a news channel didn't agree with something the Queen said during her Queen's speech and they cut her off and then banned her from speaking. Would you say that would be normal and reasonable. I use the Queen as an example because she is our Head of state which is what Trump was to America at the time.

People would ask questions if that happened, wouldn't they? Like "What's going on here?" and if nobody was asking questions and just accepted it then you'd think there's something odd going on.

[The Slim Reaper]

So if Twitter or a news channel didn't agree with something the Queen said during her Queen's speech and they cut her off and then banned her from speaking. Would you say that would be normal and reasonable. I use the Queen as an example because she is our Head of state which is what Trump was to America at the time.

People would ask questions if that happened, wouldn't they? Like "What's going on here?" and if nobody was asking questions and just accepted it then you'd think there's something odd going on.

That's not how it works. The example they use in the US, is that shouting fire in a crowded theatre is an example of speech that isn't allowed (unless there's an actual fire of course), because of the panic and danger it would cause. You have to accept that lying about elections causing his supporters to invade the capitol, is definitely along those lines.

So if the queen was giving a speech and then she suddenly started telling everyone to invade Scotland because they're trying to steal England from us, then yes, I would understand why she has been cut off.

[The Slim Reaper]

Have you heard Bannon speaking about the strategy?

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He tells you what the whole strategy was before it happened.

[Alf]

Have you heard Bannon speaking about the strategy?

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He tells you what the whole strategy was before it happened.But that never happened.

It's not really a strategy. It's just Bannon giving his opinion to some people of what he thinks should and will happen.

[The Slim Reaper]

But that never happened.

It's not really a strategy. It's just Bannon giving his opinion to some people of what he thinks should and will happen.

That's exactly what happened.

He declared victory on election night, despite the fact his own team told him it probably wasn't going to happen, and he also said that dems were trying to steal it. He called for votes to stop being counted - hence the stop the count memes.

[Alf]

That's exactly what happened.

He declared victory on election night, despite the fact his own team told him it probably wasn't going to happen, and he also said that dems were trying to steal it. He called for votes to stop being counted - hence the stop the **** memes.No, he was leading on election night. People went to bed and when they woke up the next day he was behind. That was the Wednesday morning. Then the voting scores just froze on all news channels until the Friday. And then on the Friday Fox news called the result for Biden.

It took all that time because they obviously had to count how many more votes they needed to overtake Trump. It took so long because they didn't count on the fact that Trump received 10 million more votes than he did in his first election victory. They had to come up with a figure that gave Joe Biden, who campaigned from his basement, the most votes in history. Yeah right!

[Mystic Mock]

Because I'm entitled to form my own opinion and be suspicious on the basis of everything that has been presented of Trump since he came down those steps in 2015. So while Arista will lay out the mainstream narrative of what's going on, I like to put out an alternative narrative by questioning that and pointing out why everything is not what it seems and that there is another side to the story.

My interest is trying to get to the truth of what's going on, if that makes me come across as looking bias then I can't help that in the same way you can't help looking bias towards Corbyn or remain. When you feel you're onto something then you're gonna run with it.

Tbf the beauty of society in general is the different takes that everyone takes on the same situation that's unfolding, I feel like the last few years are trying to turn us into the Borg from Star Trek, but I honestly hope that future never comes to pass.

Basically I support you and The Slim Reaper's right to hold your own differing opinions to each other personally, and anyone that can't handle that needs to go and see a Therapist.

Onto the topic, I personally feel like the FBI wouldn't raid a former President's home unless they had something on him.

[The Slim Reaper]

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Guilty people don't take the fifth - Trump in 2016.

[Alf]

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Guilty people don't take the fifth - Trump in 2016.Guilty of what?

I've told you but you don't listen. This is all a sting. Biden is not President. Trump handed over power to the military on January 19th or 20th 2021.listen to his handing over power speech.

Trump is the bait the military are using to trap the deep state. This is a war.

I get that you don't get it and you think I'm mad but that's the way it is.

All will be made clear in time.

[The Slim Reaper]

Guilty of what?

I've told you but you don't listen. This is all a sting. Biden is not President. Trump handed over power to the military on January 19th or 20th 2021.listen to his handing over power speech.

Trump is the bait the military are using to trap the deep state. This is a war.

I get that you don't get it and you think I'm mad but that's the way it is.

All will be made clear in time.

OK grasshopper, I will try to do better :worship:

[bots]

OK grasshopper, I will try to do better :worship:

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[The Slim Reaper]

:laugh:

[Alf]

Why wasn't Trump at Biden's inauguration for the transition of power?

Why didn't Trump mention the Biden administration in his transition of power speech.

Those two things always happen. But this time they didn't.

Of course you'll say it's because Trump was spitting his dummy out but you'd be wrong. Trump said in his speech that there will be a peaceful transition of power.

[The Slim Reaper]

Bots, 5 minutes into his irl meet up with Alfredo.

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[Alf]

Listen.

Never once says "Biden administration" he says "A new administration" and says "a smooth and orderly transition" and then he wasn't there at Biden's inauguration.

There's method in my madness. It comes about by listening and observing.

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[Oliver_W]

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[Alf]

He mentions Obama in is and was at his inauguration.


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[Alf]

He did the same.


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[The Slim Reaper]

You've answered your own question already Alf. Trump is too much of a narcissist to accept he lost fair and square, so he hasn't stopped throwing his dummy out for 2 years.

[Alf]

You've answered your own question already Alf. Trump is too much of a narcissist to accept he lost fair and square, so he hasn't stopped throwing his dummy out for 2 years.OK I'll try hammering a nail into your head and see if it sticks.

Trump says the election was stolen, he says he has proof. Stealing the election is a major crime, it's treason. So if Trump handed over the power of America to the people he knows committed that crime then that would make Trump just as guilty in the crime. So that is why he handed over power to the military.

Simply ask Trump the question.

If the election was stolen as you say, and you knew about it as you say, then doesn't that make you just as guilty for handing over the White House to the people that committed the treason and stole the election?


Get out of that one.

[The Slim Reaper]

OK I'll try hammering a nail into your head and see if it sticks.

Trump says the election was stolen, he says he has proof. Stealing the election is a major crime, it's treason. So if Trump handed over the power of America to the people he knows committed that crime then that would make Trump just as guilty in the crime. So that is why he handed over power to the military.

Simply ask Trump the question.

If the election was stolen as you say, and you knew about it as you say, then doesn't that make you just as guilty for handing over the White House to the people that committed the treason and stole the election?


Get out of that one.

Couple of important details you've missed.

Trump was automatically removed as president as Biden was sworn in, so whatever he did or said around that issue was completely irrelevant, including being an accessory by handing over power.

Trumps evidence was rejected by judge after judge, many of them appointed by him, including the supreme court.

[Alf]

Couple of important details you've missed.

Trump was automatically removed as president as Biden was sworn in, so whatever he did or said around that issue was completely irrelevant, including being an accessory by handing over power.

Trumps evidence was rejected by judge after judge, many of them appointed by him, including the supreme court.Trump took an oath to defend America from threats foreign and domestic. If Trump knew the election was stolen and he hands over the keys to the criminals then he's guilty. The transition of power has to take place before Biden is sworn in.

[The Slim Reaper]

Trump took an oath to defend America from threats International and domestic. If Trump knew the election was stolen and he hands over the keys to the criminals then he's guilty. The transition of power has to take place before Biden is sworn in.

Who knew that trump being such an upstanding citizen, afraid of the potential of committing a crime, would ultimately be his biggest downfall :laugh:

[Alf]

Who knew that trump being such an upstanding citizen, afraid of the potential of committing a crime, would ultimately be his biggest downfall :laugh:He's still saying to this day that the election was stolen so put him on trial for handing over power to the people who stole it because he's gone against the oath he took when he was sworn in. Then let's see what happens. But they're not gonna put him on trial for that because that would out the truth. But the truth is gonna come out soon anyway.

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[Beso]

Is it possible the fbi raided his home in an effort to find and hide the proof about the elections, and other misdemeanors of the biden cartel.

[The Slim Reaper]

He's still saying to this day that the election was stolen so put him on trial for handing over power to the people who stole it because he's gone against the oath he took when he was sworn in. Then let's see what happens. But they're not gonna put him on trial for that because that would out the truth. But the truth is gonna come out soon anyway.

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Power is removed from presidents at the end of their terms so they don't need to hand anything over. Remarkably, after all the crimes trump is being investigated for or has already been found guilty of, you're suggesting they prosecute him for something that not even the most enthusiastic pussy-hat wearer would say is a crime.

[Alf]

Is it possible the fbi raided his home in an effort to find and hide the proof about the elections, and other misdemeanors of the biden cartel.Don't know, but I know Trump knew it was gonna happen.

I know the FBI cleared everyone out and wanted to be alone in there.

Did Trump have surveillance in there and was having them watched from a different location?

They were just probably trying to find anything they can on him like they have done since he first announced he was running. But planting something there is also a possibility. Another possibility is it's all part of the military sting.

[The Slim Reaper]

From lock her up to defund the FBI

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[Alf]

Power is removed from presidents at the end of their terms so they don't need to hand anything over. Remarkably, after all the crimes trump is being investigated for or has already been found guilty of, you're suggesting they prosecute him for something that not even the most enthusiastic pussy-hat wearer would say is a crime.You're so wrong. And that's all I can say. I can only tell you what happened and I've done that. I can't make you take it in. I understand it's a crazy thing to accept. Like I said earlier, all will become clear soon.

[The Slim Reaper]

You're so wrong. And that's all I can say. I can only tell you what happened and I've done that. I can't make you take it in. I understand it's a crazy thing accept. Like I said earlier, all will become clear soon.

Any kind of rough timescale as I'll be booking a holiday soon and don't want to miss anything.

Is this still the same thing you told us would happen on inauguration day, or is this a new thing?

[Alf]

Any kind of rough timescale as I'll be booking a holiday soon and don't want to miss anything.

Is this still the same thing you told us would happen on inauguration day, or is this a new thing?Don't worry, something this big will be heard around the World. So unless you're off to Mars, then you won't miss out.

Same thing but with alterations over time.

And I won't even want an apology.

[The Slim Reaper]

Don't worry, something this big will be heard around the World. So unless you're off to Mars, then you won't miss out.

And I won't even want an apology.

Well that's fortunate :laugh:

[bots]

You're so wrong. And that's all I can say. I can only tell you what happened and I've done that. I can't make you take it in. I understand it's a crazy thing to accept. Like I said earlier, all will become clear soon.

Alf, you have been saying all will become very clear soon for 2 years, can you please be more precise, do you mean 50 or 100 years? :laugh:

[Liam-]

Will it happen before or after Kennedy comes back to life?

[Alf]

Alf, you have been saying all will become very clear soon for 2 years, can you please be more precise, do you mean 50 or 100 years? :laugh:Well the mid-terms are in November, so that is when things will start to happen would be my guess. When Trump gets his people in. But things may gradually start coming out too in the run up to the mid-terms.

I'm not running the show, I'm just a viewer like you. So I don't have a say when the move is made. I'm in the same position as you only I'm still listening to Trump and his side as well as the mainstream where you're only taking in one side. That's the only difference.

[Alf]

Will it happen before or after Kennedy comes back to life?I'd say Kennedy isn't coming back to life. I'm fairly sure he's dead.