Souness under attack from the Lionesses

[Zizu]

Apparently some of the England women’s team have taken to Twitter and the like to criticise/ castigate Graeme Souness for referring to yesterday’s Spurs v Chelsea match as a throwback where we got our game back .. “ it was a proper man’s game that “


The world has gone crazy


I’m thinking that It may work against the women’s ‘drive forward’ as well ... as many will side with Souness


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Graeme Souness alluded to football as a "man's game" after a fiery London derby between rivals Chelsea and Tottenham. Thomas Tuchel and Antonio Conte squared off more than once, resulting in both of them receiving a red card and a clash between coaching staff and players at full-time.

Sky Sports pundit Souness said: "It's a mans game all of a sudden again." At the time he was sat next to former England international Karen Carney who looked a bit perplexed following the comment.


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Women's football player Bethany England was among a number of observers who slammed Sky Sports pundit Graeme Souness following comments he made during the broadcaster's coverage of Chelsea vs Tottenham in the Premier League on Sunday.

Souness made the reference more than once, also referring to watching a game with "men at it". On social media, England's Bethany England tweeted: “'It’s a man’s game', 'Men at it' Get in the bin. What a disgraceful thing to say after the summer this country has just seen."

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Its sad that rather than try and understand what he meant they just go on twitter and make themselves look stupid

[Cherie]

It's hard to believe he didn't know what he was saying, he went on about Men and a Mans game more than once, you could forgive him for thinking out loud once but sat beside an ex female football player, in a year that women have brought football 'home', his words were certainly a little dinasaurish in my view

[Niamh.]

It's hard to believe he didn't know what he was saying, he went on about Men and a Mans game more than once, you could forgive him for thinking out loud once but sat beside an ex female football player, in a year that women have brought football 'home', his words were certainly a little dinasaurish in my view

I agree

[Zizu]

It's hard to believe he didn't know what he was saying, he went on about Men and a Mans game more than once, you could forgive him for thinking out loud once but sat beside an ex female football player, in a year that women have brought football 'home', his words were certainly a little dinasaurish in my view


Although he was talking specifically about that game which was a man’s game featuring JUST men


He didn’t say it carelessly after one of the Lionesses’s matches


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[Crimson Dynamo]

He was referring to the way the modern "mens" game has gone it was nothing to do with women's football.

As in back 20 years ago the tackles were meatier and there was more passion (and the refs let the game flow more.

[Cherie]

Although he was talking specifically about that game which was a man’s game featuring JUST men


He didn’t say it carelessly after one of the Lionesses’s matches


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He was referring to the way the modern "mens" game has gone it was nothing to do with women's football.

As in back 20 years ago the tackles were meatier and there was more passion (and the refs let the game flow more.



He didn't address Karen once from the footage I saw, that was telling enough :shrug: He had plenty to say to Jamie Carragher, also he was man spreading, while Jamie was perched politely with legs together :hee:

[smudgie]

Hmmm, the way the managers went on it was more thuggish than manly..whatever bloody manly is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He didn't address Karen once from the footage I saw, that was telling enough :shrug: He had plenty to say to Jamie Carragher, also he was man spreading, while Jamie was perched politely with legs together :hee:

I have no idea why she was there tbh other than a box ticking exercise. :shrug:

[MTVN]

It's hard to believe he didn't know what he was saying, he went on about Men and a Mans game more than once, you could forgive him for thinking out loud once but sat beside an ex female football player, in a year that women have brought football 'home', his words were certainly a little dinasaurish in my view

Yeah definitely intentional and very crass imo

[Alf]

I see there's a Karen involved in this discussion. Surprise, Surprise.

Souness meeting Karen


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[Alf]

It's not fair that Souness mentions men alongside football. It's not like we've had woman and football rammed in our faces for the past few years.

[Alf]

If women arne't fighting with the Trans community then they're fighting with men.

They'll have no allies left soon.

[MTVN]

The most generous interpretation of this is that he's pretty thick for not realising how it would come across. As soon as he said it everyone was saying how he'd get in trouble for the comments so the reaction was obvious

[bots]

i thought he was doing it as a wind up hoping the lady would lose her cool. He obviously knew what he was saying because he repeated it about 4 times :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m outraged &amp; disgusted that Graeme Souness used the words ‘man’s game’ when talking specifically about an incident in a man’s game played by two teams of men. Especially when we’ve all spent the past few weeks talking about the ‘women’s game.’</p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1558915797828845568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Niamh.]

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?

Stephen Roberts
11 HRS AGO
I was more offended by Sky having Karen Carney as a pundit. Pundits should
ideally have played in the fixture on which they're commenting. At the very
least they should have played at the same level. Karen Carney ticks neither of
these boxes and has been chosen solely because she's a woman. The very
definition of sexism.

[Niamh.]

Stephen Roberts
11 HRS AGO
I was more offended by Sky having Karen Carney as a pundit. Pundits should
ideally have played in the fixture on which they're commenting. At the very
least they should have played at the same level. Karen Carney ticks neither of
these boxes and has been chosen solely because she's a woman. The very
definition of sexism.

https://c.tenor.com/-lFxNI2gjGwAAAAC/conor-mc-gregor-who-the-fook-is-that-guy.gif

[bots]

male or female, the pundits usually talk complete bollocks, so it really doesn't make any difference

[Jordan.]

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Apparently someone else saying the same stupid thing was supposed to change your mind :joker:

Interesting how the defence has gone from "that isn't what he meant" to still attacking women anyway.

[Niamh.]

Apparently someone else saying the same stupid thing was supposed to change your mind :joker:

Interesting how the defence has gone from "that isn't what he meant" to still attacking women anyway.

par for the course I guess

[Crimson Dynamo]

par for the course I guess

that is golf neem not football...



:whistle:

[Niamh.]

that is golf neem not football...



:whistle:

Good job they didn't put me on the panel eh? :smug:

[MTVN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m outraged &amp; disgusted that Graeme Souness used the words ‘man’s game’ when talking specifically about an incident in a man’s game played by two teams of men. Especially when we’ve all spent the past few weeks talking about the ‘women’s game.’</p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1558915797828845568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/1171119/graeme-souness-comments-chelsea-tottenham-karen-carney/

[Cherie]

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/1171119/graeme-souness-comments-chelsea-tottenham-karen-carney/

He 100% said mens game at one point

[Cherie]

ae1e8_4DWHY

[Swan]

I think the context is quite important here. I honestly don't think he meant to offend. But my judgement was cloudy at the time, one, i'd had a few beers, two, i was salty about Chelsea conceding in the 95th min, especially against Spurs :joker:

[MTVN]

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/1171119/graeme-souness-comments-chelsea-tottenham-karen-carney/

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

[Niamh.]

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/1171119/graeme-souness-comments-chelsea-tottenham-karen-carney/

Here's what he said :

https://twitter.com/MessiMX30iiii/status/1558875426075836417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Niamh.]

Oh Cherie beat me to it!

[Crimson Dynamo]

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

[Swan]

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.

[MTVN]

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

Like I said in that case the most generous interpretation I can have of it then is that he is simply an idiot :hee:

[Cherie]

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

He is of course going to say that he doesn't want to end up on Talk Sport with all the other Sky Sports sackings :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here's what he said :

https://twitter.com/MessiMX30iiii/status/1558875426075836417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

[Zizu]

He didn't address Karen once from the footage I saw, that was telling enough :shrug: He had plenty to say to Jamie Carragher, also he was man spreading, while Jamie was perched politely with legs together :hee:


Souness did engage with her specifically on one thing yesterday.. can’t recall exactly what it was about though ..


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[bots]

exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

he talked about it on 3 or 4 occasions though

[Zizu]

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?


I do miss the more familiar faces discussing things during and after games simply because I know how good they were as players and what they achieved .
I wouldn’t have that interest in some guy off the street or an invited football fan .

The blokes do get more involved and disagree with each other .. you don’t get that nowadays as the guys are all on their best behaviour. It really does look as though they are scared of disagreeing with anything the female pundits say .


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[Zizu]

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?


Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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[Zizu]

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.


Exactly


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[Zizu]

This morning

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“I said we had our game back, it’s the kind of football I remember playing in.”

“It was a throwback and I think our game will be better for it.”

Graeme Souness addresses his ‘man’s game’ comments on yesterday’s action.


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[Alf]

Like I said in that case the most generous interpretation I can have of it then is that he is simply an idiot :hee:Well then he's in good company because Alex Scott and Karen Carney are idiots too.

[Niamh.]

Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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Why shouldn't he be there and commenting though? I really don't understand why people are so funny about that, he's a football player commenting on a football game :shrug:

[Alf]

When you watch football played by women on the TV, do you ever hear the word "women" or "womens" said?

I don't watch it but I'd take a guess that it's used endlessly.

Am I right?

[thesheriff443]

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .

[Cherie]

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .

who said otherwise? That is not the issue at all


All Souness had to say was that the physical game is back, no need for the word men at all given it is a sport played by both and the rules are the same in mens and womens football....are they not?

[Niamh.]

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .

Has anyone suggested otherwise?

I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse here or you really don't understand what the issue is

[Alf]

[/B]
who said otherwise? That is not the issue at all


All Souness had to say was that the physical game is back, no need for the word men at all given it is a sport played by both and the rules are the same in mens and womens football....are they not?Then compromise. When football is on the TV for a certain sex then if the mention of the names or a term of that sex is uttered then that person gets called out and cancel culture comes after them and their job.

Then I think we're all happy.

[Cherie]

Then compromise. When football is on the TV for a certain sex then if the mention of the names or a term of that sex is uttered then that person gets called out and cancel culture comes after them and their job.

Then I think we're all happy.

I don't want to cancel anyone, but if that's what you want go for it.

[Alf]

Can't believe I'm having to speak in the defence of a former Liverpool player.

This hurts.

[thesheriff443]

Has anyone suggested otherwise?

I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse here or you really don't understand what the issue is

The issue is, women thinking that because they won a championship they are suddenly better or know more than a man talking about a man’s game.

[Niamh.]

I don't want to cancel anyone, but if that's what you want go for it.

.

Me neither, just commenting on the situation is all :shrug:

[Niamh.]

The issue is, women thinking that because they won a championship they are suddenly better or know more than a man talking about a man’s game.

It really isn't but ok...........

[Alf]

Just to show you that the term "A man's game" is a term that's been around for years. Here's a very funny little scene from Rising Damp.


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[thesheriff443]

It really isn't but ok...........

Face bothered face bothered

[Cherie]

The issue is, women thinking that because they won a championship they are suddenly better or know more than a man talking about a man’s game.

Again no one said the female pundit knew more than the male pundit, can you point out who said this? as you seem to be reading things that do not exist


The issue is respect, plain and simple

[Zizu]

Why shouldn't he be there and commenting though? I really don't understand why people are so funny about that, he's a football player commenting on a football game :shrug:


How can he be properly clued up on the women players or the women’s game though ?

I see him as a token male pundit , a high profile player who’s willing to take the money .

I wonder what all the female ex England player/pundits think about him taking work from them ??


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[Niamh.]

How can he be properly clued up on the women players or the women’s game though ?

I see him as a token pundit , a high profile player who’s willing to take the money .

I winged what all the female ex England player/pundits think about him taking work from them ??


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Why wouldn't he be? I'm sure he did his research on the National Team, they represent his country so represent him too. The rules are the same as the men's rules

[Zizu]

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

.


I think that’s about it ..


The only real similarity that I can see is that they both have the SAME rules.


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[thesheriff443]

Again no one said the female pundit knew more than the male pundit, can you point out who said this? as you seem to be reading things that do not exist


The issue is respect, plain and simple

They should try respecting a man that had a great career infootball and has forgotten more than most know about mens football

Woman’s football is not in the same league as mens football so the sense of out rage is laughable.

[Zizu]

Why wouldn't he be? I'm sure he did his research on the National Team, they represent his country so represent him too. The rules are the same as the men's rules


To be properly informed he’d have to be spending all his waking time watching and researching women’s football .. he’s also currently a pundit on men’s football so there’s not enough time in the day to watch all the live and televised football games


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[Niamh.]

To be properly informed he’d have to be spending all his waking time watching and researching women’s football .. he’s also currently a pundit on men’s football so there’s not enough time in the day to watch all the live and televised football games


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It's a national game, so I disagree with you on that point

[Zizu]

It's a national game, so I disagree with you on that point


Well to be a competent pundit you have to watch the players playing regularly to be informed .

You have to know how the players CAN perform ( their strengths and limitations) and how they have been performing then you can comment on their current situation or their form

There’s no way that Ian Wright ( who I love ) can be as informed as any number of ex female player / pundits are on the women’s game


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[Niamh.]

Well to be a competent pundit you have to watch the players playing regularly to be informed .

You have to know how the players CAN perform ( their strengths and limitations) and how they have been performing then you can comment on their current situation or their form

There’s no way that Ian Wright ( who I love ) can be as informed as any number of ex female player / pundits are on the women’s game


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He may not be as informed as female players would be (that is speculation of course I don't know what Ian Wright watches in his free time) but he's a big name in Football so he brings that element to it. I doubt the female players were complaining about him being a pundit, were they?

[Alf]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

get them telt Brian

[Zizu]

He may not be as informed as female players would be (that is speculation of course I don't know Ian Wright watches in his free time) but he's a big name in Football so he brings that element to it. I doubt the female players were complaining about him being a pundit, were they?


I mean the female ex players who would be in his place on telly ... he’s effectively taking money out of their pockets

I’d like to know their opinions on his position . There aren’t too many punditry places up for grabs anyways and Alex Scott seems to get most of them ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

we have an excellent woman football pundit up here who talks about the mens game and is bang on the money and very well informed

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/E89B/production/_117474595_leanne2.jpg

[Niamh.]

I mean the female ex players who would be in his place on telly ... he’s effectively taking money out of their pockets

I’d like to know their opinions on his position . There aren’t too many punditry places up for grabs anyways and Alex Scott seems to get most of them ..


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I think that the women's game needs a bigger more well known name like Ian Wright to garner more interest in it. Have any ex female players complained about him being a Pundit? I think a lot of them would have been happy he was there to help promote it.

[Mystic Mock]

Its sad that rather than try and understand what he meant they just go on twitter and make themselves look stupid

Well I took it to mean that he was on about how soft he felt men's Football had gone, and that he is loving how yesterday's match threw him back to his playing days.

But maybe I read him wrong.:joker:

[Beso]

[/B]
who said otherwise? That is not the issue at all


All Souness had to say was that the physical game is back, no need for the word men at all given it is a sport played by both and the rules are the same in mens and womens football....are they not?



But skiing is a sport, and they always differentiate between the men and womens slalom and downhill.

Everyones getting their knickers in a twist over a saying that's been around since football began..

Absolutely ridiculous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well I took it to mean that he was on about how soft he felt men's Football had gone, and that he is loving how yesterday's match threw him back to his playing days.

But maybe I read him wrong.:joker:

Yes in relation to the refs blowing for any challenge but this season they have been told not too and we are getting more physical exciting games

[Beso]

Tbh, it's up to the women to get their own sayings.

[Jordan.]

Well I took it to mean that he was on about how soft he felt men's Football had gone, and that he is loving how yesterday's match threw him back to his playing days.

But maybe I read him wrong.:joker:

Make men manly again :fist:

[hijaxers]

Make men manly again :fist:

What hair pulling ! I thought girls did that ~ very unmanly

[Jordan.]

What hair pulling ! I thought girls did that ~ very unmanly

We know Souness

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Zizu]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlackSimpleIrrawaddydolphin-size_restricted.gif


Flesh wound ..

Back in the day when the tackles were gruesome .. they had no substitutes !!

Eleven played eleven for the whole game !!


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[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Okay I didn’t want to have to do this but this is before a womens champions league final ffs <a href="https://t.co/xE7irrjOfX">pic.twitter.com/xE7irrjOfX</a></p>&mdash; Alrightfans (@alrightfans) <a href="https://twitter.com/alrightfans/status/1558822825963683840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Alf]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlackSimpleIrrawaddydolphin-size_restricted.gifGood tackle

[Alf]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Okay I didn’t want to have to do this but this is before a womens champions league final ffs <a href="https://t.co/xE7irrjOfX">pic.twitter.com/xE7irrjOfX</a></p>&mdash; Alrightfans (@alrightfans) <a href="https://twitter.com/alrightfans/status/1558822825963683840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Big Mac from distance with the left foot from hell :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Make men manly again :fist:

:joker:

Tbh he probably should've worded it a bit differently, but I think that Souness tried to play up to his "masculine" image yesterday about how he likes rough and ready Football, but it's come across to some people the wrong way.

I mean alternatively he could be being an asshole, but I don't think that Souness would still be on Sky Sports if he really held misogynistic views as it would damage their brand.

[Mystic Mock]

What hair pulling ! I thought girls did that ~ very unmanly

Maybe Souness has a thing for hair pullers.:joker:

[Pro Sniper]

Souness has ALWAYS spoken in this manner. All of a sudden he's to be "careful" with what he says because it'll offend some clowns who try to act like women now have an "equal standing" in a sport their gender opposites have completely dominated for decades?? pffft.

Whether you enjoy/support women's football or not, the idea that you MUST NOW change your rhetoric(which wasn't offensive BEFORE the women's game has started being rammed down throats..) is quite simply RIDICULOUS. It's like if you've been listening to certain genre of music for years..and one day someone fronts you and says they don't like it..they're "offended" by it. "Please stop playing that", they say. "Change the record", they say. What would your response be if some silly bastard tried that shyte on you??

The sooner women(and the simps who follow them) stop trying to act like they're riding sideBYside with the male game - trying to prop their version up in such a desperate and artificial manner, the sooner their version can progress authentically in its own right.

[Mystic Mock]

Souness has ALWAYS spoken in this manner. All of a sudden he's to be "careful" with what he says because it'll offend some clowns who try to act like women now have an "equal standing" in a sport their gender opposites have completely dominated for decades?? pffft.

Whether you enjoy/support women's football or not, the idea that you MUST NOW change your rhetoric(which wasn't offensive BEFORE the women's game has started being rammed down throats..) is quite simply RIDICULOUS. It's like if you've been listening to certain genre of music for years..and one day someone fronts you and says they don't like it..they're "offended" by it. "Please stop playing that", they say. "Change the record", they say. What would your response be if some silly bastard tried that shyte on you??

The sooner women(and the simps who follow them) stop trying to act like they're riding sideBYside with the male game - trying to prop their version up in such a desperate and artificial manner, the sooner their version can progress authentically in its own right.

The women's game will never be level until the Blues team is allowed back up to the WSL.:inamood:

Seriously though I agree with you that Souness has always had a certain demeanor, I honestly don't think that he was intending to offend women with his comments.

But I don't know the guy personally tbf, maybe he is a misogynist and his playing me for a fool, but I'm gonna try to trust a Celebrity for once and say that he made a comment without thinking.

[Beso]

:joker:

Tbh he probably should've worded it a bit differently, but I think that Souness tried to play up to his "masculine" image yesterday about how he likes rough and ready Football, but it's come across to some people the wrong way.

I mean alternatively he could be being an asshole, but I don't think that Souness would still be on Sky Sports if he really held misogynistic views as it would damage their brand.


Well they didnt care about scouse manbaby carragher gobbing all over people, so I'm not sure that's entirely true.

[Nicky91]

well who recently became european champions

men or the women's team?


based on that i'd say they have every right to include some female representation in the football shows




maybe if scottish women's football would improve a lot more, maybe then Souness would change his mind on this topic :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

well who recently became european champions

men or the women's team?


based on that i'd say they have every right to include some female representation in the football shows




maybe if scottish women's football would improve a lot more, maybe then Souness would change his mind on this topic :think:

he did not talk about or express an opinion on "womens football"

best to watch the clip first

[thesheriff443]

he did not talk about or express an opinion on "womens football"

best to watch the clip first

Since the win, women are walking around with twelve inch clitorist’s

[Cherie]

Since the win, women are walking around with twelve inch clitorist’s

at least you can find them now I guess

[Niamh.]

at least you can find them now I guess

https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT1XGU1AHz9Fe8tmp2/giphy.gif

[Cherie]

I have listened to all the arguments and maybe on balance he didn't mean it in a derogatory way, still doesn't explain his manspread though, its a tiny studio put your legs together Graeme :hee:

[Niamh.]

I have listened to all the arguments and maybe on balance he didn't mean it in a derogatory way, still doesn't explain his manspread though, its a tiny studio put your legs together Graeme :hee:

Hear, hear!

But yes, I didn't watch the program but I can see from that clip how it may have been taken the wrong way.

Some of the comments here though :nono:

[Zizu]

at least you can find them now I guess


That is funny :)


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[thesheriff443]

If you going to remove my post play the fcuking game and remove cheries post
Double fcuking standards

[thesheriff443]

A mod taking the p1ss then removing my reply
This place corrupt as fcuk

[Cherie]

If you going to remove my post play the fcuking game and remove cheries post
Double fcuking standards

Both our posts were removed, the post above is in reply to yours which is still there

[thesheriff443]

Both our posts were removed, the post above is in reply to yours which is still there

You taking the p1ss by saying now at least I can find them is still along Niamh taking the p1ss

My reply to you as been removed, it’s all right for you and a mod to take the p1ss but not for me take the p1ss in return

Poxy double standards

[MTVN]

I deleted the posts for the record. Thought Cheries comment was a pretty light hearted comment about men in general whereas yours was more personal and offensive. That's how I saw it anyway, maybe you disagree

Tbh you're lucky your other post to another member was only deleted with no infraction so I would be counting your blessings!

[Mystic Mock]

Well they didnt care about scouse manbaby carragher gobbing all over people, so I'm not sure that's entirely true.

We're in a society now where words are seen as worse than actions.

That's why Carragher is still in a job.

[Mystic Mock]

I have listened to all the arguments and maybe on balance he didn't mean it in a derogatory way, still doesn't explain his manspread though, its a tiny studio put your legs together Graeme :hee:

That I can't explain.:laugh:

[Zizu]

You taking the p1ss by saying now at least I can find them is still along Niamh taking the p1ss

My reply to you as been removed, it’s all right for you and a mod to take the p1ss but not for me take the p1ss in return

Poxy double standards


Don’t take it to heart ..It was only a bit of fun and aimed at all of us guys ..
I thought it was very funny and witty


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[Alf]

I deleted the posts for the record. Thought Cheries comment was a pretty light hearted comment about men in general whereas yours was more personal and offensive. That's how I saw it anyway, maybe you disagree

Tbh you're lucky your other post to another member was only deleted with no infraction so I would be counting your blessings!It's your authoritarian mindset that means when you get a bit of power over people you abuse it to trample on their freedoms. You just can't control yourself. It's weakness.

[Zizu]

The crazy thing is that from the moment England women started playing in the Euros all mention of Covid19 , Smallpox and Russian invasion of Ukraine disappeared off our news screens and haven’t been heard of since !!


What’s that all about !!


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[Beso]

A proper mans thread.