Our new health secretary

[Cherie]

so she voted for overturning the ban on smoking indoors

is she really the right person for the job if the is so careless with other peoples health?

wait for the poll

[Cherie]

I knew you would be in there Joey :laugh:

[joeysteele]

No, in my view she is a heartless, ignorant horrible individual.

She was cruelly heartless as work and pensions secretary.

It's either a really bad joke or an obscenity she is made Health secretary.
Awful.

However along with her now PM they both make a real gruesome twosome.

[bots]

i cant think of a worse role model to be in the job .... i mean its so obvious, it's taking the piss out of the role

Bring back shagger, and i never thought i would say that :laugh:

[joeysteele]

I knew you would be in there Joey :laugh:

I have never liked her Cherie.:joker:
How she's an MP never mind a Minister and unbelievably appointed as deputy PM too, is beyond ALL my understanding.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27924574.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/0_Spectator-Magazine-Summer-Party-01-Jul-2015.jpg

[MTVN]

Its not a fitness contest :shrug:

Don't see what her personal health has to do with the main challenges of ambulance delays, backlogs, and access to doctors and dentists

[The Slim Reaper]

No, in my view she is a heartless, ignorant horrible individual.

She was cruelly heartless as work and pensions secretary.

It's either a really bad joke or an obscenity she is made Health secretary.
Awful.

However along with her now PM they both make a real gruesome twosome.

When she said "it's not my job to worry about people in the UK starving to death."

[Cherie]

I have never liked her Cherie.:joker:
How she's an MP never mind a Minister and unbelievably appointed as deputy PM too, is beyond ALL my understanding.

I literally think we are being trolled.



What effect did the smoking ban have?
“Directly after the legislation, more people were trying to quit smoking, and more people succeeded because it’s much easier to avoid those situations,” says Hazel Cheeseman, Director of Policy at ASH (Action on Smoking and Health).

Research in the British Medical Journal estimated there were 1,200 fewer hospital admissions for heart attacks in the year following the ban – improved air quality and fewer smokers will have contributed to this.

In 2006, 22 per cent of adults smoked, whereas in the latest statistics (2015) 18 per cent did. This is part of a gradual decline in UK smoking rates since 1974, when the government first began gathering this data.

In UK bars before the ban, air pollution from cigarette smoke was much higher than the ‘unhealthy’ threshold for outdoor air quality (set by the US Environmental Protection Agency), a University of Bath study found. Levels in Scottish and Welsh bars were often twice as high as in English bars. After the ban, air pollution in UK bars reduced by as much as 93 per cent.

After the ban, air pollution in UK bars reduced by as much as 93 per cent

“There was concern that if people can’t go to the pub and smoke they might stay home and smoke around their children, but the opposite has been true,” says Hazel. “We’ve seen a great shift to people smoking outside, so most children in the UK now live in smoke-free homes.”

A Glasgow University study showed that, before the smoking ban, the number of hospital admissions of children with asthma was increasing on average by five per cent each year in Scotland. In the three years after the ban, admissions decreased 18 per cent per year.

In the three months after the ban there was a 6.3 per cent drop in the volume of cigarettes sold in England.

As you can in our ten year timeline, the smoking ban is one of a series of moves to discourage smoking. “The ban is part of a trend towards policies that denormalise smoking,” Toby says. “It helped create a shift in culture.”

The BHF is proud to have campaigned to reduce the use and harm of tobacco, working closely with ASH. We’re active members of the Smokefree Action Coalition, and continue to fund research into the link between air pollution and premature death. Hazel says: “The value of the BHF’s continued support and funding cannot be overestimated.”

[The Slim Reaper]

A previous health sec that wasn't held to the standards that TC is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcAXnXMX0AA8D_C?format=png&name=small

[Cherie]

Its not a fitness contest :shrug:

Don't see what her personal health has to do with the main challenges of ambulance delays, backlogs, and access to doctors and dentists

This is not about her personal health, it is about her voting to overturn the indoor smoking ban see the blurb from the BHF above

[Cherie]

A previous health sec that wasn't held to the standards that TC is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcAXnXMX0AA8D_C?format=png&name=small


Again read the OP this has nothing to do with what she does personally

[Cherie]

so she voted for overturning the ban on smoking indoors

is she really the right person for the job if the is so careless with other peoples health?



for those who did not read the OP

[MTVN]

This is not about her personal health, it is about her voting to overturn the indoor smoking ban see the blurb from the BHF above

I don't think a historical vote on that is very relevant to the main health challenges right now either though

When was that vote?

[The Slim Reaper]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27924574.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/0_Spectator-Magazine-Summer-Party-01-Jul-2015.jpg

Again read the OP this has nothing to do with what she does personally

.

[Cherie]

A previous health sec that wasn't held to the standards that TC is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcAXnXMX0AA8D_C?format=png&name=small

I just checked when he was Health Secretary 1988.....times have moved on from then, smoking was much more acceptable for a start :laugh:

[bots]

and he was an eccentric fool even then :laugh:

[Cherie]

.

that is just a picture of her for those who dont know her :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It was the appointment of Ray Cistpig as Minister for Equalities that had me concerned but he did go to Eton so I think he will be ok - pic below

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/CurtisAllgier.jpg

[Cherie]

I don't think a historical vote on that is very relevant to the main health challenges right now either though

When was that vote?

struggling to find the date

[bots]

was about 15 years ago

[Cherie]

I would love to be proved wrong and she will be great in the job but I think you need to have a modicum of interest in health to be any good.

Anyway time will tell

[bots]

JRM being in charge of green energy is the biggest piss take though i think

[The Slim Reaper]

that is just a picture of her for those who dont know her :hee:

Of course, you are never selective :hee:

[arista]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27924574.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/0_Spectator-Magazine-Summer-Party-01-Jul-2015.jpg


I hope she does a Good job


Importing More Qualified Doctors
is urgent

[arista]

A previous health sec that wasn't held to the standards that TC is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcAXnXMX0AA8D_C?format=png&name=small

Yes same, as her

[Cherie]

Of course, you are never selective :hee:

it never even crossed my mind until you brought it up, you do all the over thinking for me, thank you :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

it never even crossed my mind until you brought it up, you do all the over thinking for me, thank you :laugh:

I didn't bring it up. When I quoted you and LT together, that should have been clear. MTVN even mentioned it before I did, so again, nothing selective about you :blush:

[arista]

If she Imports Loads of
Qualified Doctors

Then she will be thanked

[joeysteele]

I hope she does a Good job


Importing More Qualified Doctors
is urgent

In my view, she's not fit for any job.

[Cherie]

I didn't bring it up. When I quoted you and LT together, that should have been clear. MTVN even mentioned it before I did, so again, nothing selective about you :blush:

He did indeed and I responded to him before I did you basically in the order of the posting...if that is selective so be it

[arista]

In my view, she's not fit for any job.


Yes
she has to prove it.

[hijaxers]

Well she's got one hell of a job on her hands so we'll have to wait and see how capable she is. We may all get a surprise. I hope so but its nott gonna be a quick fix. None off this mess is.

[Gusto Brunt]

I find it very odd that people in the media are saying 'it's disgusting' that her obesity is 'being used' to criticise her ability to do the job.

I was on Twitter and saw that often deluded broadcaster Kevin O'Sullivan saying it's 'okay' to be very fat and smoking cigars. Let me remind him, both can kill and increase risks of heart attack, stroke and cancer.

Then on Talk TV again a doctor was saying she thought it was wrong that Thérèse Coffey should be attacked for being fat. This appalling viewpoint coming from a doctor.

Obesity is serious. Smoking is a serious bad habit. NO doctor should support either as an acceptable lifestyle choice.

The fact Thérèse Coffey is now the Health Secretary. I can only think Truss is taking the **ss.

[joeysteele]

I find it very odd that people in the media are saying 'it's disgusting' that her obesity is 'being used' to criticise her ability to do the job.

I was on Twitter and saw that often deluded broadcaster Kevin O'Sullivan saying it's 'okay' to be very fat and smoking cigars. Let me remind him, both can kill and increase risks of heart attack, stroke and cancer.

Then on Talk TV again a doctor was saying she thought it was wrong that Thérèse Coffey should be attacked for being fat. This appalling viewpoint coming from a doctor.

Obesity is serious. Smoking is a serious bad habit. NO doctor should support either as an acceptable lifestyle choice.

The fact Thérèse Coffey is now the Health Secretary. I can only think Truss is taking the **ss.



Oh how I wish I'd thought of saying that.:joker:

Although I'd be banned if I said all I'd like to re this gruesome twosome Truss and Coffey. :joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

Oh how I wish I'd thought of saying that.:joker:

Although I'd be banned if I said all I'd like to re this gruesome twosome Truss and Coffey. :joker:

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

[arista]

Oh how I wish I'd thought of saying that.:joker:

Although I'd be banned if I said all I'd like to re this gruesome twosome Truss and Coffey. :joker:


Put on a Spoiler
with Warning saying : ANGER

[arista]

"Obesity is serious."

Yes a chance for her to
to get Fit.

With NHS help.

[joeysteele]

Put on a Spoiler
with Warning saying : ANGER

Nah, I'll keep it myself.:joker:

After all I've come across as to what she's put the sick and disabled through as to her heartlessness and dismissiveness while an arrogant and heartless work and pensions secretary.
It wouldn't be printable.

Her appointment to Health, is an absolute obscenity in my view.

[bots]

luckily for me and millions of others, the nhs staff continue on providing first class care irrespective of what their political boss thinks or does