View Full Version : Countdown to Liz Truss forced resignation
The writing is already on the wall. People had little hope that she was going to be competent. She has next to no support amongst Tory MP's, so its only a matter of time until she is out the door
I think she will be gone by January, thoughts? Does anyone think she has a long term future? Does anyone think she will still be in place to fight the next election?
Cherie
27-09-2022, 06:48 AM
I have no idea what they were thinking electing her
We were ready for Rishi
Gusto Brunt
27-09-2022, 07:18 AM
I have no idea what they were thinking electing her
We were ready for Rishi
I totally agree. Sunak's budget would have helped the poor and low paid.
He would have dished out money to those people who WOULD have spent it and stimulated the economy, UNLIKE the rich who hoard it, because they already have money. They don't need more money as an incentive to spend.
Truss and that other clown, Twangtang are absolute idiots. I don't care how many qualifications they have, they're still thick.:fist:
:hee::hee:
Nicky91
27-09-2022, 07:43 AM
no
Liz is doing a fab job
UserSince2005
27-09-2022, 08:22 AM
we love her so no
joeysteele
27-09-2022, 10:24 AM
No surprise rumblings are beginning.
She was the WORST possible choice from all who stood for the leadership.
Just gross.
For me however leave her in place and hopefully the voters will well and truly kick her out in any election.
Deluded, ridiculous, heartless and incompetent are all that can genuinely be said about her.
The Slim Reaper
27-09-2022, 11:55 AM
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UserSince2005
27-09-2022, 12:04 PM
Unless Boris is coming back then we have the best person for the job
Oliver_W
29-09-2022, 10:16 AM
Has the IMF ever criticised the budget of a developed country so strongly?
Has any budget been as decried and doomsaid as this one?
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Has the IMF ever criticised the budget of a developed country so strongly?
Has any budget been as decried and doomsaid as this one?
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plenty, think greece and italy
Kazanne
29-09-2022, 10:43 AM
Shes not being given much of a chance imo,the media and press are already gunning for her,they wont stop until they get their own way. I have no idea what sort of PM she will make but it's clear she doesn't stand a chance to show what she can do.
Liam-
29-09-2022, 10:53 AM
Ah, it’s the media’s fault she’s completely tanked the economy is it?
This is what most Tory MPs, supporters, and journalists wanted her to do and now they're all wetting their pants over the fallout to it. They seem to have thought pursuing a high reward strategy could be done without high risk
We surely can't have another leadership contest, if she ends up going they'd just have to put in someone uncontested
Gusto Brunt
29-09-2022, 11:16 AM
This is what most Tory MPs, supporters, and journalists wanted her to do and now they're all wetting their pants over the fallout to it. They seem to have thought pursuing a high reward strategy could be done without high risk
We surely can't have another leadership contest, if she ends up going they'd just have to put in someone uncontested
Most Tory MPs wanted Sunak. :)
Burn down the house...nothing but a load of incompetent spastics in there just now.
Time for a president.
joeysteele
29-09-2022, 11:27 AM
This is what most Tory MPs, supporters, and journalists wanted her to do and now they're all wetting their pants over the fallout to it. They seem to have thought pursuing a high reward strategy could be done without high risk
We surely can't have another leadership contest, if she ends up going they'd just have to put in someone uncontested
It isn't though MTVN.
Except for journalists maybe.
Most Con MPs didn't even want her in the run off never mind leader.
245 Con MPs didn't vote for her in the final MPs ballot.
Then although she got 81,000 votes from the Con membership.
That's not even half of the 172,000 membership of the Con party.
That's likely why her ride as leader will be harder.
The Con MPs and indeed membership as to both.
She got nowhere near even just half support from them.
arista
29-09-2022, 11:30 AM
Ah, it’s the media’s fault she’s completely tanked the economy is it?
Yes the Markets
win in the end.
She has asked for a month
to let things settle.
arista
29-09-2022, 11:32 AM
Most Tory MPs wanted Sunak. :)
Rubbish
Sunak Lost
She Won the Vote
Most Tory MPs wanted Sunak. :)
It isn't though MTVN.
Except for journalists maybe.
Most Con MPs didn't even want her in the run off never mind leader.
245 Con MPs didn't vote for her in the final MPs ballot.
Then although she got 81,000 votes from the Con membership.
That's not even half of the 172,000 membership of the Con party.
That's likely why her ride as leader will be harder.
The Con MPs and indeed membership as to both.
She got nowhere near even just half support from them.
Fair points but once it was the final 2 Truss did have more MP backers than Sunak
I said to be careful what you wish for :)
There will soon be a clamour to bring back Boris …
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I said to be careful what you wish for :)
There will soon be a clamour to bring back Boris …
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There is a lot of sellers remorse around atm
Crimson Dynamo
29-09-2022, 11:52 AM
SIR – In the IMF’s unprecedented and insolent intrusion, one can hear the voice
of the establishment. Indeed, one can almost hear the sniggers as they
contemplate the fall of our Prime Minister and Chancellor.
I sincerely hope that the Prime Minister will treat them with the contempt they
deserve and press on with her plans. It is a great relief to have true
Conservatives in Downing Street.
Jim Wood
Rossington, South Yorkshire
joeysteele
29-09-2022, 11:58 AM
Rubbish
Sunak Lost
She Won the Vote
Con MPs did want Sunak more.
The last ballot had Sunak on 137.
Truss only had 113.
24 didn't switch to Truss.
A fair number did but not up to 137.
She was never from the start the Con MPs choice.
rusticgal
29-09-2022, 12:12 PM
Bring back Boris :cheer2:
Bring back Boris :cheer2:
I second that! :cheer2: :wavey:
Crimson Dynamo
29-09-2022, 12:57 PM
Bring back Boris :cheer2:
I second that! :cheer2: :wavey:
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Kazanne
29-09-2022, 01:13 PM
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:joker::joker:
arista
29-09-2022, 01:18 PM
Bring back Boris :cheer2:
No return for him.
arista
29-09-2022, 01:20 PM
Con MPs did want Sunak more.
The last ballot had Sunak on 137.
Truss only had 113.
24 didn't switch to Truss.
A fair number did but not up to 137.
She was never from the start the Con MPs choice.
But it is not done on the last ballot, alone
She Won
Sunak Lost
arista
29-09-2022, 01:51 PM
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joeysteele
29-09-2022, 02:07 PM
But it is not done on the last ballot, alone
She Won
Sunak Lost
It's the MPs she needs the support of to lead them in parliament.
Of whom at least 230 didn't want her at all.
That's allowing for 15 to have switched to her.
Most of whom were Cabinet ministers who were crawling to keep ministerial positions once they saw she was near certain to win.
She didn't even get 50% of those Con members votes who were eligible to vote.
arista
29-09-2022, 02:14 PM
Joey
She won on the Totals Numbers
Foreign Secretary Truss receives 81,326 votes,
with 60,399 members voting for Rishi Sunak, her rival
It was on Every News
Any MP's that do not like her
Tough Titty.
Gusto Brunt
29-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Truss is a very stupid woman who I wouldn't put in charge of a sandwich shop.
arista
29-09-2022, 02:22 PM
Truss is a very stupid woman who I wouldn't put in charge of a sandwich shop.
So what Gusto
That changes nothing
joeysteele
29-09-2022, 02:28 PM
Joey
She won on the Totals Numbers
Foreign Secretary Truss receives 81,326 votes,
with 60,399 members voting for Rishi Sunak, her rival
It was on Every News
Any MP's that do not like her
Tough Titty.
Arista, it doesn't really work like that as you well know.
The membership of Labour elected Corbyn..
He had hardly any support of MPs.
The MPs worked against him all the way and all the time.
He was elected by a strong majority of Labour members.
( Not by my vote I add).
That didn't matter.
He couldn't command his MPs in parliament on much really.
That's the main arena.
Truss, has the likes of Johnson, Sunak, Patel, Javid and Gove now on the backbenches.
Who either left the Cabinet or who she didn't want.
That's a strong standing possible negative force as to her that I can see.
I certainly wouldn't trust Johnson.
He said he supported Mrs May, she made him Foreign Secretary but at every chance he worked against her.
tibb is getting heated :laugh:
arista
29-09-2022, 03:23 PM
"Arista, it doesn't really work like that"
Joey it did work like that
a Clear Winner
Foreign Secretary Truss receives 81,326 votes,
with 60,399 members voting for Rishi Sunak, her rival.
GoldHeart
29-09-2022, 03:30 PM
I think she'll try & stay as long as she can :bored: , as I keep saying whoever is in charge .. we're still stuck in the same crappy government.
But Truss is one of the most 2 faced snakes there is ,she went from being a Lib Dem back in her younger years..to now a full on Tory, she just wants to climb the ladder . She's a turn coat with zero principles & zero integrity.
"Arista, it doesn't really work like that"
Joey it did work like that
a Clear Winner
Foreign Secretary Truss receives 81,326 votes,
with 60,399 members voting for Rishi Sunak, her rival.
No Arista, the majority of MP's dont want her, so when the letters pile up a no confidence vote follows. It's simple arithmetic, if the majority cant stand her, she is out. Boris started from a much better position
The Slim Reaper
29-09-2022, 05:32 PM
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Blunder truss, why did none of us get that?
joeysteele
29-09-2022, 06:18 PM
Well I'll NEVER ever believe the Cons are only on 21%
However I do think voters are becoming sick of the Cons.
They have not a scrap of liking for Liz Gross.
They may be waking up to the fact that IF they want the Cons out they need to vote for the only party which can ensure they would be out.
That's Labour.
I don't believe they have a 33% lead but I do think the lead is growing to stronger levels.
Whatever deluded gross Truss thinks or the out of touch Con party members and their harder line voters think is right to do.
It appears the vast majority of decent voters are now starting to be sick of the heartless, deceitful Cons and don't at all want this hopeless deluded current PM.
rusticgal
29-09-2022, 06:42 PM
Just listening to LBC playing back her interviews today…Embarrassing :facepalm:
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The actual % may be off, but the trend is as clear as day. The tories are ****ed since Truss took over
Crimson Dynamo
29-09-2022, 06:50 PM
The actual % may be off, but the trend is as clear as day. The tories are ****ed since Truss took over
does it matter until we get near an election tho?
What is a worry is there is no Giorgia Meloni or Ron DeSantis rising up in the wings
does it matter until we get near an election tho?
What is a worry is there is no Giorgia Meloni or Ron DeSantis rising up in the wings
it does matter, because mp's don't want to lose their cushy jobs and will take action sooner rather than later
If they continue their tax cuts in November as promised, i think the letters will pile in to the 1922 committee. When all it needs is 35 letters and the vast majority of tory mp's don't want her, she could be out soon after giving a sensible replacement a year or so to turn it around for the election
joeysteele
29-09-2022, 07:40 PM
If the Country wasn't heading into.dire straits, for my Party I'd love gross Truss left in place.
However for the Country she was and clearly IS the totally wrong and likely most unwanted choice.
Listening to her today however, shows her full incompetence and delusion.
What a hopeless and useless ornament she is.
Gusto Brunt
29-09-2022, 08:42 PM
So what Gusto
That changes nothing
:joker:
Gusto Brunt
29-09-2022, 08:43 PM
Just listening to LBC playing back her interviews today…Embarrassing :facepalm:
I cringed.
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just seen an analysis on the effect those poll figures would have on the electoral map. The tories would lose 373 seats and retain 3 :joker:
Tory mp's are not going to let that proceed
Denver
29-09-2022, 10:45 PM
The actual % may be off, but the trend is as clear as day. The tories are ****ed since Truss took over
There is no way Labour don't take Goverment in 18 months timea
Gusto Brunt
30-09-2022, 06:26 AM
I was watching Talk TV this morning and they had on some 'top' guy in politics - I had never heard of him before.
But there he was saying 'Liz has all the wrong advisors. She needs the right advisors to give her the best advice.'
So what he's saying is that Liz Truss is the PM, is so stupid she cannot think for herself and needs other people (some as young at 21, straight out of university) to advise her - tell her what's right to do.:hehe:
Excuse, shouldn't world leaders be above all that? Shouldn't they have intelligence and make the right decisions, that's why they're leaders.
Pathetic.
joeysteele
30-09-2022, 06:52 AM
That poll does seem way out.
However there are 3 others out which state leads for Labour from 17% to 21%
I'm always sceptical on opinion polls but those kind of figures even if wrong to the maximum of polling errors.
As bots said, show any march of a trend.
Against the Cons.
I still could never believe the Cons were on 21%
The other polls indicate 28/29%.
That seems much more the case for me.
Cherie
30-09-2022, 06:54 AM
Poor Liz got her own energy policy wrong on one of her radio interviews yesterday and said energy was capped at 2,500 and no one would pay more than that :skull:
its the unit price that is capped if you use more you pay more, if you use less you pay less, 2,500 is an example of a typical household use
joeysteele
30-09-2022, 07:31 AM
Poor Liz got her own energy policy wrong on one of her radio interviews yesterday and said energy was capped at 2,500 and no one would pay more than that :skull:
its the unit price that is capped if you use more you pay more, if you use less you pay less, 2,500 is an example of a typical household use
:shocked: She's hopeless.
Actually for being a Prime Minister, her interview performances on them all yesterday was extremely bad.
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Cherie
30-09-2022, 08:31 AM
:shocked: She's hopeless.
Actually for being a Prime Minister, her interview performances on them all yesterday was extremely bad.
Not once but twice she got it wrong, on Radio Leeds and Radio Kent....
its the first time i've been able to use this phrase but Liz Truss really has **** the bed :laugh:
rusticgal
30-09-2022, 10:46 AM
:shocked: She's hopeless.
Actually for being a Prime Minister, her interview performances on them all yesterday was extremely bad.
I didn't realise it was her at first...she sounded like a novice...and this woman is running the country!!!
Tbh I have not liked her from the start...does she know what she is doing????
joeysteele
30-09-2022, 11:07 AM
I didn't realise it was her at first...she sounded like a novice...and this woman is running the country!!!
Tbh I have not liked her from the start...does she know what she is doing????
I know I am politically biased against her.
However I've never taken to her.
This seems to be her style unfortunately but for me she's another of those more than usual deluded politicians.
Who sadly for her hasn't got any sort of presention skills whatsoever.
Who also fails to keep on top of all she should.
Therein exposing another problem.
She can't think on her feet.
Bombard her with questions then her way is lost near completely.
Of all the candidates that even stood, to have ended up with Truss is near unbelievable.
arista
30-09-2022, 02:43 PM
For Joey
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arista
01-10-2022, 10:05 PM
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Cherie
01-10-2022, 10:44 PM
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Mmm think a variation of this is in my Truss headline thread :hee:
Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2022, 02:47 PM
this thread HAS aged well
:laugh2:
rusticgal
14-10-2022, 03:02 PM
Bring back Boris...:laugh:
Cherie
14-10-2022, 03:24 PM
There is a theory that all this was orchestrated to indeed reinstate Bojo
I literally can't think anyone actually thought Truss would be any good
Boris must be looking on and laughing his head off. Boris could make a comeback if he gets the support in the party, but whatever happens now, the tories will lose the next election
Boris must be looking on and laughing his head off. Boris could make a comeback if he gets the support in the party, but whatever happens now, the tories will lose the next election
Stranger things have happened …
It would be great to see Boris back in charge and sacking all those who stabbed him in the back :)
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The Slim Reaper
20-10-2022, 12:38 PM
Tory threads are the new M&H threads, with a new one appearing every 5 minutes.
it was just sooooo obvious it was going to happen :laugh:
GoldHeart
20-10-2022, 01:14 PM
it was just sooooo obvious it was going to happen :laugh:
Embarrassment really
Tory threads are the new M&H threads, with a new one appearing every 5 minutes.
Im sure Megs will use Truss' resignation as an opportunity to bring up something about her, and her feelings, and how Truss resigning reminded her of a time when she was oppressed and all that. :hehe::smug:
Cherie
20-10-2022, 05:34 PM
Im sure Megs will use Truss' resignation as an opportunity to bring up something about her, and her feelings, and how Truss resigning reminded her of a time when she was oppressed and all that. :hehe::smug:
:joker:
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