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Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has been ordered to pay $965m (£869m) in damages after falsely claiming the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax.
The families of eight victims, and an FBI agent who responded to the attack, had sought at least $550m in the defamation trial in Connecticut.
They alleged the right-wing radio host's misinformation led to a decade of harassment and death threats.
Twenty children and six adults were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Jones, who founded the conspiracy-laden Infowars website and talk show, argued for years that the massacre was a "staged" government plot to take guns from Americans and that "no-one died".
He called the parents of victims "crisis actors" and argued that some of them never actually existed.
He now acknowledges the attack was "100% real", a concession he made in August at a separate defamation trial in Texas.
As the verdict was read out on Wednesday in Waterbury, Connecticut - some 20 miles (32 km) from the site of the 2012 shooting - many of the families were visibly emotional with some in tears.
The three-week trial was marked by emotional testimony from a succession of parents.
Some described receiving a deluge of online hate and others said they had to move homes repeatedly for their own safety. A father, Mark Barden, recounted hearing that people were desecrating his son Daniel's grave by "urinating on it and threatening to dig it up".
Jurors also heard evidence that Jones and his company, Free Speech Systems, made millions of dollars selling nutritional supplements, survival gear and other products on the Infowars catalogue.
Jones broadcast himself watching Wednesday's verdict and scoffing at the court proceedings. He also appealed to his followers to make urgent donations, and pledged that the funds would not go towards his legal costs.
"The money does not go to these people," he said. "It goes to fight this fraud and it goes to stabilise the company."
His lawyer Norm Pattis told reporters that they will appeal the decision.
"Candidly, from start to finish, the fix was in in this case," he said outside the court.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63237092
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Alf will be having a meltdown :laugh:
arista
13-10-2022, 06:04 AM
"Alf will be having a meltdown"
How Nice
Gusto Brunt
13-10-2022, 06:25 AM
He's a deluded, nasty man.
Mystic Mock
13-10-2022, 06:33 AM
I never get these types of people.
I understand that people don't want to hear negative news, but pretending that it doesn't exist isn't going to help anyone.
I never get these types of people.
I understand that people don't want to hear negative news, but pretending that it doesn't exist isn't going to help anyone.
he said it was a fake organised by left wingers to bring in gun controls
Oliver_W
13-10-2022, 07:03 AM
Sounds a bit punitive tbh, especially as no-one but his demented acolytes even listened to or believed him.
Sounds a bit punitive tbh, especially as no-one but his demented acolytes even listened to or believed him.
relatives of those killed in the tragedy received death threats from his followers and several have had to move multiple times.
They urinated and defecated on one of the victims grave and threatened to dig him up. These are crazy ****ers enabled by him
Mystic Mock
13-10-2022, 07:32 AM
he said it was a fake organised by left wingers to bring in gun controls
And it's just classic paranoia because he doesn't want to admit that the left might actually have a point on an issue.
Tbf though I have seen both sides of the Political spectrum do this before anyone thinks that I'm being biased against right wingers.
The Slim Reaper
13-10-2022, 09:55 AM
The prosecution asked for $550m as a settlement amount, but the jury awarded them almost double :blush:
Cherie
13-10-2022, 09:55 AM
Sounds a bit punitive tbh, especially as no-one but his demented acolytes even listened to or believed him.
you think? incorrect but even if no one believed him imagine being a parent of one of the murdered kids being told by some twat it didn't actually happen
Liam-
13-10-2022, 10:04 AM
He owes over a billion including the first case he lost earlier this year and I think there might still be more to come :love:
Niamh.
13-10-2022, 10:07 AM
How do these damages get paid though? like unless this guy is a billionaire how would he ever be able to pay that? (Is he a billionaire?)
Liam-
13-10-2022, 10:10 AM
relatives of those killed in the tragedy received death threats from his followers and several have had to move multiple times.
They urinated and defecated on one of the victims grave and threatened to dig him up. These are crazy ****ers enabled by him
One of the mothers said that they had been sent actual pictures of dead children because they ‘didn’t know what dead children looked like’ because theirs ‘were never real’
This isn’t just some nut job shouting at the clouds no matter how much people want to paint it as that, this was a multi-year organised harassment campaign orchestrated by a sick, morally bankrupt cretin that knew full well what he was doing, he’s admitted that he doesn’t truly believe it was a hoax and that makes it so much worse that he continued to do this for so long, purely because he knows the quacks that listen to him will believe it full throttle and do whatever he told them to do
Oliver_W
13-10-2022, 10:10 AM
you think? incorrect but even if no one believed him imagine being a parent of one of the murdered kids being told by some twat it didn't actually happen
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It's a lot easier to just ignore terminally online weirdos than it is to waste mental energy shytting yourself about it.
How do these damages get paid though? like unless this guy is a billionaire how would he ever be able to pay that? (Is he a billionaire?)
his companies are worth a lot of money, that he has desperately been trying to hide
Niamh.
13-10-2022, 10:12 AM
his companies are worth a lot of money, that he has desperately been trying to hide
Oh good
Liam-
13-10-2022, 10:14 AM
How do these damages get paid though? like unless this guy is a billionaire how would he ever be able to pay that? (Is he a billionaire?)
He owns the company that he made the defamatory statements on and he’s made absolute bank from it for god knows how long, he’ll have a fair chunk of it, but if he can’t pay all of it outright or refuses, they can force him and the company into bankruptcy and sell off the company, but even if he tries to declare bankruptcy it won’t save him and these sorts of liabilities for ‘purposeful actions’ won’t be wiped away, they’ll stay with him until it’s paid off, they’ll most likely garnish any future wages as well,
The Slim Reaper
13-10-2022, 10:15 AM
How do these damages get paid though? like unless this guy is a billionaire how would he ever be able to pay that? (Is he a billionaire?)
He's either very close to being a billionaire or he is one. They will never see anywhere near that amount, and it will be a cat and mouse game of him trying to hide his money, which will then open him up to more crimes (fraudulently declaring bankruptcy)
I think discovery highlighted that his show made $330m last year (before expenses), so he has been raking in a lot of money for a long time.
Oliver_W
13-10-2022, 10:16 AM
How do these damages get paid though? like unless this guy is a billionaire how would he ever be able to pay that? (Is he a billionaire?)
Being Angry on the Internet is crazily lucrative, I wouldn't be surprised if he could pay it off and only be mildly inconvenienced.
Niamh.
13-10-2022, 10:16 AM
He owns the company that he made the defamatory statements on and he’s absolute bank from it for god knows how long, he’ll have a fair chunk of it, but if he can’t pay all of it outright or refuses, they can force him and the company into bankruptcy and sell off the company, but even if he tries to declare bankruptcy it won’t save him and these sorts of liabilities for ‘purposeful actions’ won’t be wiped away, they’ll stay with him until it’s paid off, they’ll most likely garnish any future wages as well,
Thanks, that's good
Niamh.
13-10-2022, 10:17 AM
He's either very close to being a billionaire or he is one. They will never see anywhere near that amount, and it will be a cat and mouse game of him trying to hide his money, which will then open him up to more crimes (fraudulently declaring bankruptcy)
I think discovery highlighted that his show made $330m last year (before expenses), so he has been raking in a lot of money for a long time.
I hadn't even heard of him :laugh:
Nicky91
13-10-2022, 10:18 AM
:clap1:
imagine being a disgusting lowlife saying school shootings are fake and the parents of the victims being insulted as ''actors''
oh wait, there is a Alex Jones type in my country as well :facepalm:
https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/MXkl-mOPsD9farDkMADEWdhhMnU/diocontent/213923730/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8
Willem Engel, the one who said the covid pandemic to be all scripted and made up, i bet he and Alex can probably be besties
Oliver_W
13-10-2022, 10:19 AM
I hadn't even heard of him :laugh:
Thankfully, to most people, Alex Jones is simply "the MILF off the One Show", though I f l bad for her Google results getting annihilated :laugh:
the important thing is that it sets a precedent. There are so many crazy conspiracists that have been getting away with it for years, this is a warning shot to them
Oliver_W
13-10-2022, 10:19 AM
:clap1:
imagine being a disgusting lowlife saying school shootings are fake and the parents of the victims being insulted as ''actors''
oh wait, there is a Alex Jones type in my country as well :facepalm:
https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/MXkl-mOPsD9farDkMADEWdhhMnU/diocontent/213923730/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8
Willem Engel, the one who said the covid pandemic to be all scripted and made up, i bet he and Alex can probably be besties
I give it ten seconds until you're worshipping him as much as Putin.
Nicky91
13-10-2022, 10:28 AM
He's either very close to being a billionaire or he is one. They will never see anywhere near that amount, and it will be a cat and mouse game of him trying to hide his money, which will then open him up to more crimes (fraudulently declaring bankruptcy)
I think discovery highlighted that his show made $330m last year (before expenses), so he has been raking in a lot of money for a long time.
his current net worth
Between $135 and $270 million
The Slim Reaper
13-10-2022, 10:35 AM
his current net worth
That's not accurate, Nicky. He's worth a lot more than that.
Hopefully the case may make all the other conspiracy theorists think twice before they spread all their nonsense ?!?
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arista
10-12-2023, 05:28 PM
Alex Jones Now Back on (Twitter) X
Oliver_W
10-12-2023, 08:06 PM
Alex Jones Now Back on (Twitter) X
Hmmm.
Is spreading disgusting lies enough to warrant what was a lifetime ban? Did any of his acolytes respond violently to what he'd been saying?
Hmmm.
Is spreading disgusting lies enough to warrant what was a lifetime ban? Did any of his acolytes respond violently to what he'd been saying?Big liar and conspiracy theorist here pre 9/11. Basically predicting 9/11.
You can see why the establishment wants him censored.
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He should have the right to speech, my impressions of him are that he's pretty bonkers but he's not that bad a guy really
Liam-
10-12-2023, 08:43 PM
He should have the right to speech, my impressions of him are that he's pretty bonkers but he's not that bad a guy really
Oh I don’t know, spreading lies about the parents of murdered children and getting his braindead ass lickers to harass them wherever they went makes him a pretty bad guy
Oh I don’t know, spreading lies about the parents of murdered children and getting his braindead ass lickers to harass them wherever they went makes him a pretty bad guy
I have just been reading more about his claims about Sandy Hook and that is pretty messed up tbf
arista
10-12-2023, 11:04 PM
Hmmm.
Is spreading disgusting lies enough to warrant what was a lifetime ban? Did any of his acolytes respond violently to what he'd been saying?
Yes under the Former Owner
It is Elon in charge now
and he calls the shots
arista
10-12-2023, 11:06 PM
Oh I don’t know, spreading lies about the parents of murdered children and getting his braindead ass lickers to harass them wherever they went makes him a pretty bad guy
Yes, he made big Lies.
And used his Radio/TV to spread that
Yes, he made big Lies.
And used his Radio/TV to spread thatI'd argue that the mainstream media made bigger lies over wars and Covid and used their platforms to spread them.
How far off were these crazy conspiracy theorists in 2009?
They're just crazy. This will never happen.
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So definitely don't listen to him now, because he has been so wrong, so many times.
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Lot's of people today say that men can become women. Alex Jones has never said that.
But he's apparently the one that says crazy things
Mystic Mock
12-12-2023, 01:26 AM
He should have the right to speech, my impressions of him are that he's pretty bonkers but he's not that bad a guy really
You can't flat out lie about serious events tbf.
You can't flat out lie about serious events tbf.Of course you can. Wasn't you watching the mainstream media during Covid?
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You can't flat out lie about serious events tbf.Are you saying that "men can become women" isn't a flat out lie?
You're entitled to your opinion that men can become women. But just like people don't agree with Alex Jones. People also don't agree with that opinion.
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