Bring Back Boris? Poll

[Kate!]

Who would you like to replace Liz Truss?

Boris, Rishi, Penny or other?

Poll incoming.

[Kate!]

Please say why?

I voted Rishi because he has a good heart. But I wouldn't be opposed to having Boris back but it may seem a bit farcical.

[Gusto Brunt]

Rishi or Penny. Both a million times better than Truss.

Boris had his chance. He blewe it. He doesn't deserve another chance.

[Crimson Dynamo]

im here for the Boris redemption arc

[The Slim Reaper]

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[rusticgal]

I liked Boris…he made some silly mistakes but he got things done…Brexit..COVID…I thought he was a good leader.

Penny handled herself well earlier this week when Truss couldn’t handle PQT…she had her work cut out and she stood her ground well.

I like Rishi but he isn’t as robust imo as Boris.


Having said that I think Rishi will win it.

[arista]

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No they are fireproof

[The Slim Reaper]

No they are fireproof

Boris does have the hair of a Targaryen :think:

[joeysteele]

IF I had a vote.

Of the 3 there I'd vote Sunak.

Never ever Johnson.
Not any chance.

[GiRTh]

-e3on3enEckDoes this clown seriously have a chance?

British people, why do you fall for the same sh*t over and over again?

[Zizu]

Boris is more electable than any of the Tories and certainly more electable than bladdy Starmer .,

That’s why the politicians from all the parties are running scared if for different reasons


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[GiRTh]

Boris is more electable than any of the Tories and certainly more electable than bladdy Starmer .,

That’s why the politicians from all the parties are running scared if for different reasons


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProReally!!!!:shocked:

I refer you to the final point of my previous post....Same sh*t over and over again. :shrug:

[Zizu]

Really!!!!:shocked:

I refer you to the final point of my previous post....Same sh*t over and over again. :shrug:


Fact is millions of people still like him .. we’re probably talking thousands for Starmer


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[GoldHeart]

-e3on3enEckDoes this clown seriously have a chance?

British people, why do you fall for the same sh*t over and over again?

Fickle and can't think for themselves ,after everything he's done :bored: ... imagine people wanting that idiot back in office. I JUST CAN'T :crazy: .

[GiRTh]

Fact is millions of people still like him .. we’re probably talking thousands for Starmer


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The booing at the beginning of the vid was quite loud, I doubt Starmer would get such a reception. I want to believe that Boris doesnt have that much support but maybe you are right.

[GiRTh]

Fickle and can't think for themselves ,after everything he's done :bored: ... imagine people wanting that idiot back in office. I JUST CAN'T :crazy: .
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[joeysteele]

Fickle and can't think for themselves ,after everything he's done :bored: ... imagine people wanting that idiot back in office. I JUST CAN'T :crazy: .

One of the problems GoldHeart is he's not an idiot.
He plays the bumbling fool by his natural deceit.

He has intelligence which he uses to perfection to try to present this bumbling clown act.

His only real qualification if it should be called a qualification, is all he is really good at is pure and total deceit.
A compulsive deceitful liar.
For only his own ambitions which he'll use any way he can, no matter who he crushes in his path, to achieve said ambitions.

In my view, he's a total odious creep which I've thought from the second I first heard of him.
An odious creep.

[GiRTh]

One of the problems GoldHeart is he's not an idiot.
He plays the bumbling fool by his natural deceit.

He has intelligence which he uses to perfection to try to present this bumbling clown act.

His only real qualification if it should be called a qualification, is all he is really good at is pure and total deceit.
A compulsive deceitful liar.
For only his own ambitions which he'll use any way he can, no matter who he crushes in his path, to achieve said ambitions.

In my view, he's a total odious creep which I've thought from the second I first heard of him.
An odious creep.Totally agree.

Tories are in such a state they'll put in a proven liar just because he might win an election for them. They need a complete re-boot.

[Oliver_W]

Boris, for the lulz.

Getting someone competent and respectable might rebuilt the Tories' chances, so it'd be better to have someone who'll tank them further.

[AnnieK]

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I second that motion

[Zizu]

One of the problems GoldHeart is he's not an idiot.
He plays the bumbling fool by his natural deceit.

He has intelligence which he uses to perfection to try to present this bumbling clown act.

His only real qualification if it should be called a qualification, is all he is really good at is pure and total deceit.
A compulsive deceitful liar.
For only his own ambitions which he'll use any way he can, no matter who he crushes in his path, to achieve said ambitions.

In my view, he's a total odious creep which I've thought from the second I first heard of him.
An odious creep.


Everyone has an opinion on Boris but the fact is he’s an extremely intelligent individual… if the characters who label him as a fool or an idiot actually did some research on him they would see


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[joeysteele]

Totally agree.

Tories are in such a state they'll put in a proven liar just because he might win an election for them. They need a complete re-boot.

What the Cons seem to be overlooking is that in a big part, why they got rid of him before was because his winning deceitful streak seemed to be ending.

They were seeing polling changing and him looking like he'd lose the next election too.
After a sizeable Labour by election win and the Lib Dems scoring 2 big wins too.

He started the rot, he started digging the hole of defeat likely to come.
Truss just had that hole dug far deeper.
So much for a real new and fresh beginning and securing a unity candidate if they even allow him to stand again.

A disgraceful incompetence all through.

[UserSince2005]

Boris is coming back. And will have two more terms now :love:

[Gusto Brunt]

Was talking to a friend about an hour ago, and we both agreed we have slipped into a parallel universe in which nothing makes sense.

[GiRTh]

Everyone has an opinion on Boris but the fact is he’s an extremely intelligent individual… if the characters who label him as a fool or an idiot actually did some research on him they would see


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProVery intelligent.

He's also totally untrustworthy, think the rules don't apply to him and doesn't seem to take anything seriously.

[GoldHeart]

One of the problems GoldHeart is he's not an idiot.
He plays the bumbling fool by his natural deceit.

He has intelligence which he uses to perfection to try to present this bumbling clown act.

His only real qualification if it should be called a qualification, is all he is really good at is pure and total deceit.
A compulsive deceitful liar.
For only his own ambitions which he'll use any way he can, no matter who he crushes in his path, to achieve said ambitions.

In my view, he's a total odious creep which I've thought from the second I first heard of him.
An odious creep.

Very true
That ridiculous pepper pig moment proves that.

The silly bumbling act,has made people laugh & they find him funny. Not realising he actually had alot of power and he was very deceitful & Cunning.

I think he loves the fact Truss has made such a spectacular mess of things , maybe this was his plan all along :suspect: ..so he could work his way back in.

[AnnieK]

Everyone has an opinion on Boris but the fact is he’s an extremely intelligent individual… if the characters who label him as a fool or an idiot actually did some research on him they would see


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Hitler was an incredibly intelligent man.

Intelligence does not make a person fit to rule a country. Integrity is a far more noble attribute for a leader and Boris does not fit that mold.

He lied to the Queen, to Parliament and to the public on numerous occasions. He has been sacked from many of his roles.

[GiRTh]

What the Cons seem to be overlooking is that in a big part, why they got rid of him before was because his winning deceitful streak seemed to be ending.

They were seeing polling changing and him looking like he'd lose the next election too.
After a sizeable Labour by election win and the Lib Dems scoring 2 big wins too.

He started the rot, he started digging the hole of defeat likely to come.
Truss just had that hole dug far deeper.
So much for a real new and fresh beginning and securing a unity candidate if they even allow him to stand again.

A disgraceful incompetence all through.:clap1:

This is what I think. I just cant believe Boris is as popular as the Tories think.

[Zizu]

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This is what I think. I just cant believe Boris is as popular as the Tories think.


We shall see when there is an election .. what will your excuse be then if Boris powers to another victory ?

I don’t know one person who has any faith in Starmer never mind like him .

That’s a real problem for Labour


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[Liam-]

We shall see when there is an election .. what will your excuse be then if Boris powers to another victory ?

I don’t know one person who has any faith in Starmer never mind like him .

That’s a real problem for Labour


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That’s probably because Boris backers like yourself tend to stick to your echo chambers because you can’t handle criticism of your cult leader

[GiRTh]

We shall see when there is an election .. what will your excuse be then if Boris powers to another victory ?

I don’t know one person who has any faith in Starmer never mind like him .

That’s a real problem for Labour


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProLike I said above, maybe you're right. For me, he's unelectable. Simply out of the question. Anyone but him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That’s probably because Boris backers like yourself tend to stick to your echo chambers because you can’t handle criticism of your cult leader

cant help insulting people..

:skull:

[Swan]

That’s probably because Boris backers like yourself tend to stick to your echo chambers because you can’t handle criticism of your cult leader

You're such a deluded idiot at times Liam. I wont ever vote conservatives, but voting for Boris isn't "cult like". You are so out of touch, so brainwashed. I actually feel bad for you at this point! Open your way of thinking.

Attack attack, belittle and lie. That's the left at times, hence why on the fences cba with it!

Get a grip.

[Liam-]

Sure :joker:

[Swan]

Sure :joker:

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[Crimson Dynamo]

You're such a deluded idiot at times Liam. I wont ever vote conservatives, but voting for Boris isn't "cult like". You are so out of touch, so brainwashed. I actually feel bad for you at this point! Open your way of thinking.

Attack attack, belittle and lie. That's the left at times, hence why on the fences cba with it!

Get a grip.

Labour are the nasty party

sad but what can we do?

[rusticgal]

Fickle and can't think for themselves ,after everything he's done :bored: ... imagine people wanting that idiot back in office. I JUST CAN'T :crazy: .


If anyones fickle and stupid it’s the people who can’t forgive him for a couple of white lies over a ****ing gathering after work….”How can he have one when we couldn’t :bawling:“…
He was a leader who got us through Brexit…and he got us through Covid..a pandemic that was new to us all. He secured vaccines and imo did a good job. He was the first to stand up against Russia in support of Ukraine and I believe the first leader to fly out there in support.
I think it’s obvious who the fickle ones are…:laugh:…people who have their priorities all wrong.

[Liam-]

Refusing to accept when a person does anything wrong, blindly supporting someone that has been proven to break the law, lie and cheat to keep their power and privilege, unwavering support in the face of all controversies, blaming everybody but him for his wrong doings, creating conspiracies to explain his downfall rather than acknowledge it was all his doing, that’s the average Boris Johnson fan these days and to me, that is very close to being cult like, if you don’t agree then you don’t agree, but brainwashed and deluded? I don’t think

[Zizu]

Boris has 68 votes so far .. needs another 32 by Sunday


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[Zizu]

If anyones fickle and stupid it’s the people who can’t forgive him for a couple of white lies over a ****ing gathering after work….”How can he have one when we couldn’t :bawling:“…
He was a leader who got us through Brexit…and he got us through Covid..a pandemic that was new to us all. He secured vaccines and imo did a good job. He was the first to stand up against Russia in support of Ukraine and I believe the first leader to fly out there in support.
I think it’s obvious who the fickle ones are…:laugh:…people who have their priorities all wrong.


Yes Boris went to the Ukraine and walked through the streets .. shoulder to shoulder with their leader who could have been assassinated at any moment


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[GoldHeart]

If anyones fickle and stupid it’s the people who can’t forgive him for a couple of white lies over a ****ing gathering after work….”How can he have one when we couldn’t :bawling:“…
He was a leader who got us through Brexit…and he got us through Covid..a pandemic that was new to us all. He secured vaccines and imo did a good job. He was the first to stand up against Russia in support of Ukraine and I believe the first leader to fly out there in support.
I think it’s obvious who the fickle ones are…:laugh:…people who have their priorities all wrong.

You can downplay it all you like,it was alot more than 'white lies' . And thanks for the laugh about him "getting us through the pandemic":joker: that's the funniest delusion I've ever heard. It was the medical experts who got us through with vaccines.

Boris didn't care about the casualties or people dying, didn't he say something about the 'bodies piling up' in the most cold way.

Even with lockdown ,he was umming & ahhing before any restrictions were decided. He went back & forth that many times. People were confused. Plus you CANNOT tell people not to see their loved ones , to self isolate if you yourself is having parties. He proved just how untrustworthy & pathetic he is . If he can't even set an example then what's the point.

Letting him worm his way back in , will be the ultimate slap in the face . And it will confirm that the rules don't apply to Boris as he gets away with everything :bored:.

[AnnieK]

If anyones fickle and stupid it’s the people who can’t forgive him for a couple of white lies over a ****ing gathering after work….”How can he have one when we couldn’t :bawling:“…
He was a leader who got us through Brexit…and he got us through Covid..a pandemic that was new to us all. He secured vaccines and imo did a good job. He was the first to stand up against Russia in support of Ukraine and I believe the first leader to fly out there in support.
I think it’s obvious who the fickle ones are…:laugh:…people who have their priorities all wrong.

How is it fickle and stupid to expect truthfulness and integrity from a man leading the country?? How is it fickle and stupid to not respect a man who lied to the Queen, the public and Parliament over and over again and only admitted he had lied when prosecuted? How is it fickle and stupid to not believe him when he sold Brexit on an NHS lie that those who distrust him now didn't believe at the time? How did Boris secure vaccines? His team may have done but he sure as hell didn't. Its funny how when the parties were going on he knew nothing about it but when its something good, he was all over it. Who is fickle again?

[AnnieK]

Yes Boris went to the Ukraine and walked through the streets .. shoulder to shoulder with their leader who could have been assassinated at any moment


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You think Boris wasnt flanked by every sniper MI6 had to offer?? They would have sweeped the area before Boris stepped foot in that area....:laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Attack attack, belittle and lie. That's the left at times, hence why on the fences cba with it!

Get a grip.

Dude, the Tories caused 330k excess deaths through austerity, lied a country into a disastrous brexit which has cost us more from the economy than covid, highest death rate in Europe, and the slowest rebound in the G7, but on the other hand, someone said people refusing to acknowledge what Johnson actually did are in a "cult," so those bloody lefties... :fist:

[AnnieK]

Dude, the Tories caused 330k excess deaths through austerity, lied a country into a disastrous brexit which has cost us more from the economy than covid, highest death rate in Europe, and the slowest rebound in the G7, but on the other hand, someone said people refusing to acknowledge what Johnson actually did are in a "cult," so those bloody lefties... :fist:

None of that matters though Slim coz Boris is an intelligent, lovable buffoon who delivered Brexit (he hasn't), secured vaccines (he didn't), got us though Covid (he didn't, that was the NHS etc who he refused to give a decent payrise to), visited Ukraine and risked his life (again nope, his security team risked their lives for his). Bring him back I say, may as well sink this country now and put us all out of our misery

[GoldHeart]

How is it fickle and stupid to expect truthfulness and integrity from a man leading the country?? How is it fickle and stupid to not respect a man who lied to the Queen, the public and Parliament over and over again and only admitted he had lied when prosecuted? How is it fickle and stupid to not believe him when he sold Brexit on an NHS lie that those who distrust him now didn't believe at the time? How did Boris secure vaccines? His team may have done but he sure as hell didn't. Its funny how when the parties were going on he knew nothing about it but when its something good, he was all over it. Who is fickle again?

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We never see integrity anymore sadly.

[bots]

Whats the point in voting for any of them, they are a failed, out of touch party that is going to implode

[joeysteele]

I will NEVER forgive him for his government's policy and it's HIS government.
In order to clear beds in hospitals elderly hospital patients were sent back to care homes.
Without testing them for covid.

They returned to care homes across the Country and infected the other residents there.
My Aunt was only in a care home while her bungalow was being fitted with mobility aids.

She was infected by those returning to her care home and died.

My Mother and we, couldn't go to her as she was dying nor could we go to her funeral due to HIS laws and restrictions which he was breaking himself.

My Mother never got over this loss of her Sister.
Yet that odious creep was having cake and wine on his birthday.
With others present..
When we couldn't even have family round for my Mother's birthday in 2020.

His rules and laws of NO INDOOR SOCIAL gatherings , work or otherwise allowed.
Yet he laughed at grieving families by enjoying himself as and when he liked.

Then said to parliament and people he'd broken no rules nor were there any parties.
Then it was found there were and he was at them.

He has always refused to meet with the main groups,I am part of one, and others of lost relatives.
Because he KNOWS that policy caused the deaths of loads of elderly people in care homes.

No, I will never forgive the odious creep for the intense pain inflicted on my Mother while he had social gatherings in his home and workplace.
I won't forgive him because to anyone who lost loved ones like that it is UNFORGIVABLE

That policy was found to be unlawful in court.
That creep is a disgrace to all and any decency.
He should be barred from elected public office not seeking it.

My Mum didn't live to see hopefully justice done by the independent public inquiry into the pandemic and his handling of it.
I can't wait to have my chance to show my evidence to that inquiry when it eventually gets started now NEXT YEAR.
I'm determined to get my Mum's justice for her by telling the truth on that rotten from the core odious creep.

[rusticgal]

None of that matters though Slim coz Boris is an intelligent, lovable buffoon who delivered Brexit (he hasn't), secured vaccines (he didn't), got us though Covid (he didn't, that was the NHS etc who he refused to give a decent payrise to), visited Ukraine and risked his life (again nope, his security team risked their lives for his). Bring him back I say, may as well sink this country now and put us all out of our misery


As any leader he has a team…he DID deliver Brexit…he DID secure vaccines…and he DID get us through Covid all with the help of his team and the NHS. He DID risk his life going to the Ukraine and like any other leader he had a security team of highly trained men who like his team are paid to do the job they are there to do.
But the only thing you hold him accountable for is lying…:laugh:

[James]

Bad idea. One of the big problems for the government at the moment is credibility, and Boris Johnson coming back won't restore that when his own MPs wanted him out a few months ago.

[jet]

If anyones fickle and stupid it’s the people who can’t forgive him for a couple of white lies over a ****ing gathering after work….”How can he have one when we couldn’t :bawling:“…
He was a leader who got us through Brexit…and he got us through Covid..a pandemic that was new to us all. He secured vaccines and imo did a good job. He was the first to stand up against Russia in support of Ukraine and I believe the first leader to fly out there in support.
I think it’s obvious who the fickle ones are…:laugh:…people who have their priorities all wrong.

Hear Hear!

Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris, Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for, and which was a great success. Many thousands more would have died if we had been dragging our feet like the rest of Europe and the US. But that doesn’t matter, apparently, it’s only people’s lives.
As you say, no PM in recent times had to deal with so much in so short a time span - Brexit, a pandemic which nobody knew how to deal with, the war in Ukraine, in which he led the West in giving support, weapons and training to their cause before others dared.

And people are complaining because he had a bloody drink with some colleagues to unwind…and of course, all world leaders are perfect, the most truthful breed there are, and never tell lies… ever….:joker:

[LaLaLand]

Man's a disgrace.

He's literally "jetting in" from a lavish luxury holiday in the Caribbean WHEN HE SHOULD BE WORKING as a serving MP for his constituency. His most recent of a few breaks abroad mind you since he quit and went AWOL where again he SHOULD have been working.

I hope he does get in again because it'll be the final nail in the Tory coffin. His ego, disregard for others and sense of entitlement will be his downfall (AGAIN) and I for one can't wait.

General Election NOW.

[Mystic Mock]

Anyone but Rishi.

[Kate!]

Anyone but Rishi.

Why?

[Mystic Mock]

Why?

He basically would be David Cameron 2.0 with the class warfare.

[GoldHeart]

He basically would be David Cameron 2.0 with the class warfare.

What if Boris comes back??, That would be the worst imo.

[bots]

the whole things is a farce, Boris is struggling for 100 noms and his popularity in the tory membership has only gone one way .... downward. His popularity among wider voters has dropped off a cliff. The popularity of the tory party has dropped off a cliff. That won't be repaired by boris coming back, they crashed the economy and everyone knows it. They are laughed at at home and abroad. Anyone that seriously wants the tory party to remain in power after all this really needs to give themselves a shake

Most importantly, he is demonstrating to the world that the only thing he cares about is his own ego

[Mystic Mock]

What if Boris comes back??, That would be the worst imo.

Tbh I can't wait for the party to lose the next election.:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Tbh I can't wait for the party to lose the next election.:laugh:

Well yeah the best thing would be to get rid of the conservatives . I hope they lose aswell... we've had 12 years of this garbage .

[Zizu]

the whole things is a farce, Boris is struggling for 100 noms and his popularity in the tory membership has only gone one way .... downward. His popularity among wider voters has dropped off a cliff. The popularity of the tory party has dropped off a cliff. That won't be repaired by boris coming back, they crashed the economy and everyone knows it. They are laughed at at home and abroad. Anyone that seriously wants the tory party to remain in power after all this really needs to give themselves a shake

Most importantly, he is demonstrating to the world that the only thing he cares about is his own ego


He had 68 nominations by yesterday.. still has till Sunday


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[rusticgal]

Man's a disgrace.

He's literally "jetting in" from a lavish luxury holiday in the Caribbean WHEN HE SHOULD BE WORKING as a serving MP for his constituency. His most recent of a few breaks abroad mind you since he quit and went AWOL where again he SHOULD have been working.

I hope he does get in again because it'll be the final nail in the Tory coffin. His ego, disregard for others and sense of entitlement will be his downfall (AGAIN) and I for one can't wait.

General Election NOW.

I guess he, like everyone else is entitled to a holiday and leave. They all have them...do you know when your serving MP goes on holiday?...probably not.
He does have an ego...but dont they all.

[AnnieK]

MPs actually have no annual leave entitlement in their contracts which could mean that they have zero entitlement or 100% entitlement to leave :laugh: They have 80 days off from sitting in Parliament and most take their holidays during those times.

Maybe Boris, like many people, can't afford to go away in school holidays with the cost of living crisis :laugh:

[bots]

yeah, mp's effectively have the same term times as schools, so have plenty time to take holiday. However, there is no requirement that they must attend the HoC unless whipped. Plenty mp's have terrible attendance records. Ann Widdecombe had one of the best attendance records

[rusticgal]

Maybe its overtime taken in lieu :laugh:

[AnnieK]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results - Einstein must have forseen this Boris Johnson ****show we are living through when he came up with his theory of insanity.

[Gusto Brunt]

I'm disappointed Penny isn't making any headway. :(

We can only hope Sunak gets in, as the prospect of Boris in again is horrific. He's only gonne do something wrong in the first week.And then a snowball of mistakes...

Madness.

[GoldHeart]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results - Einstein must have forseen this Boris Johnson ****show we are living through when he came up with his theory of insanity.

Exactly Annie

Like I said if Boris is allowed back in,then the Tory party might aswell call it a day . We literally cannot trust them.

The hell Jeremy Corbyn got for still being in politics( bear in mind he was sacked & his own party members were against him) ,and he WASN'T even PM !! , Yet people wanted Corbyn gone from the face of the earth.

But it's ok for Boris to break a billion rules ,laugh in our faces . Tell lies and be cunning etc . For people to now be like " awww Boris we want you back " , it really is insanity :facepalm::umm2: .

Why he's seen as this 'loveable buffoon ' I'll never understand.

[bots]

they only want him back because they have the mistaken impression that he would win the next election. He wont

[Gusto Brunt]

The markets wobbled today as the prospect of Boris returning.

If that doesn't signal something to the MPs who want Boris in, then they need to all resign.

[jet]

they only want him back because they have the mistaken impression that he would win the next election. He wont

Up against Starmer? He would.

[bots]

Up against Starmer? He would.

nope, not now, labour will win the next election, whenever it is

[GoldHeart]

nope, not now, labour will win the next election, whenever it is

That's why the conservatives won't want an election.

[AnnieK]

nope, not now, labour will win the next election, whenever it is

Agreed. I don't think Starmer is a strong leader....but people are now so sick of the Tories Labour will win by a landslide if there was election tomorrow, regardless of their leader.

[bots]

i'm not convinced boris will stand, he is not going to want to become leader to go into opposition in the future and there is also a real risk now that Sunak could beat him in a head to head. Thats not how he will want to end his story

[jet]

nope, not now, labour will win the next election, whenever it is

If there was an election now, then yes. 2024? Nearly 2 years is a long time in politics. Anything could happen.

[bots]

If there was an election now, then yes. 2024? Nearly 2 years is a long time in politics. Anything could happen.

no, not anything, the economy is not going to improve, times are going to be tough. If you look at any party in power over the last 40 years, during bad economic times, they are out at the next election.

[Zizu]

That's why the conservatives won't want an election.


Not necessarily.. they don’t HAVE to go to the people for another year or 18 months so why on Earth risk anything now ..


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[joeysteele]

no, not anything, the economy is not going to improve, times are going to be tough. If you look at any party in power over the last 40 years, during bad economic times, they are out at the next election.

You're cheering me up bots.

I've set out to work for and campaign for a Labour win since the 2015 election.

I don't care what it may be.
Labour as easily largest party with either Lib Dem support or SNP just NOT willing to bring Labour down to risk the Cons back in.

My preference would be a comfortable 30 to 40 overall majority.

I don't really like massive landslide wins as majorities with far less than 50% of votes cast.

As I've said, I don't believe these extremely high leads for Labour plus I KNOW a lot of support is not FOR Starmer's Labour but much more against any recent or new Con leader's Cons.

It is true as you stated, a government presiding over economic problems/ chaos 2 to 3 years from an election usually gets punished whenever the next election comes.

I hope you are right and I'll be one of the first to point out you were when this lot get hopefully absolutely turfed out.
No matter the time the Cons now force the electorate to have to wait for in order to get their say on this shambolic mess.

[MTVN]

I always thought forcing him out was a major act of self harm for the party and the country and so it's happened. He's a once in a generation politician who still commands a lot of support across a significant segment of the population.

I'm not sure he commands enough support in the party to govern effectively though. Hopefully him and Sunak come to some sort of deal

[Zizu]

I always thought forcing him out was a major act of self harm for the party and the country and so it's happened. He's a once in a generation politician who still commands a lot of support across a significant segment of the population.

I'm not sure he commands enough support in the party to govern effectively though. Hopefully him and Sunak come to some sort of deal


Like I said elsewhere all the main characters who backstabbed Boris very quickly benefited greatly from his departure .

It was clearly a well organised coup with all the main roles shared out between the main perpetrators


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[Zizu]

You think Boris wasnt flanked by every sniper MI6 had to offer?? They would have sweeped the area before Boris stepped foot in that area....:laugh:


I thought I had a vivid imagination


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[Zizu]

Whats the point in voting for any of them, they are a failed, out of touch party that is going to implode


But the same applies to Labour


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[Zizu]

Bad idea. One of the big problems for the government at the moment is credibility, and Boris Johnson coming back won't restore that when his own MPs wanted him out a few months ago.


But look who wanted him out .. a load of incompetent imbeciles


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[AnnieK]

I thought I had a vivid imagination


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You think he went without a security detail? PMs have round the clock security everywhere they go. He didn't go out in London without security.....you think he would go to a war zone alone??? Really? I know you said you were in a daft mood but lets be real here.

[The Slim Reaper]

Boris has pulled out. If he'd done that a few more times, he wouldn't have to deny some of his children exist.

[Zizu]

Hear Hear!

Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris, Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for, and which was a great success. Many thousands more would have died if we had been dragging our feet like the rest of Europe and the US. But that doesn’t matter, apparently, it’s only people’s lives.
As you say, no PM in recent times had to deal with so much in so short a time span - Brexit, a pandemic which nobody knew how to deal with, the war in Ukraine, in which he led the West in giving support, weapons and training to their cause before others dared.

And people are complaining because he had a bloody drink with some colleagues to unwind…and of course, all world leaders are perfect, the most truthful breed there are, and never tell lies… ever….:joker:


What a fabulously , level headed take on things

Can you imagine what things would have been like with Starmer , Angela bladdy , Rayner , Jonathan Ashworth , Anneliese Dodds , David Lammy , Lisa Nandy ..
probably even flamin’ Diane Abbott in charge of all the things Boris had to cope with .,

Boris is getting blamed for our economy when the whole world economy is buggered


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[Zizu]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results - Einstein must have forseen this Boris Johnson ****show we are living through when he came up with his theory of insanity.


It seems that you have conveniently forgotten all the dark days under previous Labour governments


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[Zizu]

The markets wobbled today as the prospect of Boris returning.

If that doesn't signal something to the MPs who want Boris in, then they need to all resign.


Links to any of this wobbling ?


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[joeysteele]

Good that this odious creep isn't standing.
Good riddance again to him from me.

[Zizu]

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time

:)


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[The Slim Reaper]

Hear Hear!

Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris, Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for, and which was a great success. Many thousands more would have died if we had been dragging our feet like the rest of Europe and the US. But that doesn’t matter, apparently, it’s only people’s lives.
As you say, no PM in recent times had to deal with so much in so short a time span - Brexit, a pandemic which nobody knew how to deal with, the war in Ukraine, in which he led the West in giving support, weapons and training to their cause before others dared.

And people are complaining because he had a bloody drink with some colleagues to unwind…and of course, all world leaders are perfect, the most truthful breed there are, and never tell lies… ever….:joker:

That's a lie, Jet. Vaccine rollout was nothing to do with brexit whatsoever. He spent 2 years trying to screw your country over straight after it as well. Brexit is self harm, so the fact he had to deal with it, after campaigning and lying about it, shouldn't give him extra credit

[The Slim Reaper]

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time

:)


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It's already a mess, zeez. How on earth do you mess a mess up?

[Zizu]

It's already a mess, zeez. How on earth do you mess a mess up?


Just wait and watch ..

Labour haven’t been able to get their own party in order .. even though they’ve had nothing but that to do for the last 12 years


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[The Slim Reaper]

Just wait and watch ..

Labour haven’t been able to get their own party in order .. even though they’ve had nothing but that to do for the last 12 years


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Have you been watching the tories?

I actually agree although for different reasons. Starmer is too weak to do anything other than continue tory policies. His interview on Kuenssberg this morning shows that he is laying the groundwork for the austerity that tories are already committed to.

[GoldHeart]

It seems that you have conveniently forgotten all the dark days under previous Labour governments


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You can stick by the conservatives all you like Zizu, but at the end of the day this ISN'T about Labour. The Tory party are the ones who have been in power for the past long 12 YEARS.

If you fail to see any wrongdoing they ever do then that's up to you. But the conservatives have proved time and time again that it's every man for themselves,they don't give a damn about the general public. And they will continue to lie and manipulate and run this country into the ground.

Truss quitting after just 44 days will go down in history as one of the most embarrassing pathetic moments in politics . Seriously the whole party is a joke .

You bringing up Labour ..reminds me of when people use to slag Obama down in American politics despite the fact it was Trump who had been in power at the time for the past few years. People see what they want to see . You can't keep bringing up previous politicians whilst ignoring current very real problems. It just doesn't make sense ,and it feels like a deflection tactic .

They will blindly defend and support whoever they want. Knock yourself out and continue to feel sorry for Boris all you want with rose tinted glasses . But Joey put it best when he described him as a ODIOUS CREEP . I will never like Boris after everything he's done , he has ZERO morals ...... I WOULDN'T trust him AN INCH.

[Denver]

I said it before and ill say it again, Jess Phillips is the future of Labour and someone who would suit the PM job perfectly

[The Slim Reaper]

I said it before and ill say it again, Jess Phillips is the future of Labour and someone who would suit the PM job perfectly

She's less than useless. Another neoliberal idiot with nothing to offer.

[AnnieK]

It seems that you have conveniently forgotten all the dark days under previous Labour governments


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Don't insult me Zizu, its not a good look.
I have lived through both Labour and Tory governments and neither have benefitted me much. I have never revealed on here which way I vote, ever, so you have no idea which party I vote for. The fact that I can't stand Johnson has nothing to do with my memory, thank you very much.

[Denver]

She's less than useless. Another neoliberal idiot with nothing to offer.

She has a much bigger back bone then Kier and knows exactly what needs doing, Kier constantly harms himself by not even given a sleek of what he would do like if Labour is elected as expected we don't even have any sort of idea what they would plan to do apart from take back the things the tories privatised

[Liam-]

I said it before and ill say it again, Jess Phillips is the future of Labour and someone who would suit the PM job perfectly

Awful woman

[The Slim Reaper]

She has a much bigger back bone then Kier and knows exactly what needs doing, Kier constantly harms himself by not even given a sleek of what he would do like if Labour is elected as expected we don't even have any sort of idea what they would plan to do apart from take back the things the tories privatised

This is based on nothing. She's as much of a coward as starmer is. I know she tries to present herself as a no-nonsense tough talker but it's a sham, and she's as bad as starmer and the tories.

[GiRTh]

Jess Phillips, Angela Raynor, David Lammy. They dont fill me with confidence but they seem to be the future of labour. :bored:

[Liam-]

Andy Burnham could do wonders if given the chance

[Oliver_W]

Jess Phillips, Angela Raynor, David Lammy. They dont fill me with confidence but they seem to be the future of labour. :bored:

I'm still not convinced that Raynor isn't secretly a Catherine Tate character...

[Oliver_W]

One only has to look at Boris' family tree to know how wean jis pull-out game is. He'll be back.

[joeysteele]

Andy Burnham could do wonders if given the chance

I voted twice for him to be Labour leader.
I really rate Andy Burnham.
So I agree with what you say there.

[Mystic Mock]

Agreed. I don't think Starmer is a strong leader....but people are now so sick of the Tories Labour will win by a landslide if there was election tomorrow, regardless of their leader.

100% this.

[Mystic Mock]

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time

:)


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Both parties are ****.

I'm just impressed that the Tories could have 5 bad leaders on the bounce.

[Zizu]

You can stick by the conservatives all you like Zizu, but at the end of the day this ISN'T about Labour. The Tory party are the ones who have been in power for the past long 12 YEARS.

If you fail to see any wrongdoing they ever do then that's up to you. But the conservatives have proved time and time again that it's every man for themselves,they don't give a damn about the general public. And they will continue to lie and manipulate and run this country into the ground.

Truss quitting after just 44 days will go down in history as one of the most embarrassing pathetic moments in politics . Seriously the whole party is a joke .

You bringing up Labour ..reminds me of when people use to slag Obama down in American politics despite the fact it was Trump who had been in power at the time for the past few years. People see what they want to see . You can't keep bringing up previous politicians whilst ignoring current very real problems. It just doesn't make sense ,and it feels like a deflection tactic .

They will blindly defend and support whoever they want. Knock yourself out and continue to feel sorry for Boris all you want with rose tinted glasses . But Joey put it best when he described him as a ODIOUS CREEP . I will never like Boris after everything he's done , he has ZERO morals ...... I WOULDN'T trust him AN INCH.


I’ve said all along that all the parties are as bad as each other when they are in power ..


All totally useless and corrupt


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[Liam-]

I voted twice for him to be Labour leader.
I really rate Andy Burnham.
So I agree with what you say there.

I think a Rayner/Burnham team would be gold for Labour

[GoldHeart]

The conservatives are in such a dreadful state , that the public would probably rather take their chances with a ventriloquist dummy. So of course Starmer would do well if there was a general election now .But i agree he's not a strong leader, and i'm not a fan of his .

[Zizu]

Don't insult me Zizu, its not a good look.
I have lived through both Labour and Tory governments and neither have benefitted me much. I have never revealed on here which way I vote, ever, so you have no idea which party I vote for. The fact that I can't stand Johnson has nothing to do with my memory, thank you very much.


You said we were living through hell with Boris in charge .. I was simply reminding you that we’ve been through all kinds of hell each time Labour have been in power


It really doesn’t matter which party is in charge . They will make terrible decisions, mess up the economy , rob the taxpayers blind .. it’s what they all do .. time after time


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[GoldHeart]

I’ve said all along that all the parties are as bad as each other when they are in power ..


All totally useless and corrupt


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Even if they are all 'bad as eachother' , the tories are the ones who have royally screwed things up so badly to the point where they need to be booted out.

SO like i said of course Labour will be looking might fine at the moment. I've personally always been a Labour supporter ... no party is perfect 100% . Ideally Labour needs a NEW STRONG leader who will stick by their principles. If we had a general election now i think most of the country would get behind labour.

At the end of the day we still live in a democracy , so somebody has to be in office whether you like them or not .

[Zizu]

Even if they are all 'bad as eachother' , the tories are the ones who have royally screwed things up so badly to the point where they need to be booted out.

SO like i said of course Labour will be looking might fine at the moment. I've personally always been a Labour supporter ... no party is perfect 100% . Ideally Labour needs a NEW STRONG leader who will stick by their principles. If we had a general election now i think most of the country would get behind labour.

At the end of the day we still live in a democracy , so somebody has to be in office whether you like them or not .


Well there is absolutely nothing that Labour can do about the economy as it’s a world wide problem .. plus they can’t do much about Covid19 which is expected to return soon and with a vengeance .. the energy crisis is another world wide issue ..


So I’m not sure what useless collection of misfits are gonna do .


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[thesheriff443]

Madonna has been singing these lyrics for years
We are in an awful mess right now and I don’t mean maybe.

[Kate!]

Agree totally with Liam about Andy Burnham. He'd be an amazing leader. Get it done Labour. Smarmy Starmer out!

[bots]

the problem with Burnham is that all the people likely to vote for labour because of the tory mess wouldnt end up voting for labour if he were the leader

[Kate!]

the problem with Burnham is that all the people likely to vote for labour because of the tory mess wouldnt end up voting for labour if he were the leader

How come? I think Andy is very personable.

[arista]

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[GoldHeart]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F23B/production/_127311026_dailymail-nc.png.webp

It will never be the right time Boris,so go away back under your rock . The man is ridiculous.

[AnnieK]

How come? I think Andy is very personable.

Nah, Burnham is a.media *****. He tried to stick us with a congestion charge then backed down when everyone kicked off and tried to blame the Gov when not one other council were going to charge theor citizens. He thinks of himaelf not his constituents. Not many in Manchester would vote for him if he were leader.

[joeysteele]

I think a Rayner/Burnham team would be gold for Labour

I've always rated Andy Burnham.
He has people who don't like him of course, no one is liked by everyone.

Everytime I've spoken to him he is always interested in what you think and say.
He represents good Labour values in my view.
Which he is dedicated to as well.

I think it unfortunate he didn't win after Ed Miliband.
There in my view was a big chance missed.
I really like him.

[Zizu]

Nah, Burnham is a.media *****. He tried to stick us with a congestion charge then backed down when everyone kicked off and tried to blame the Gov when not one other council were going to charge theor citizens. He thinks of himaelf not his constituents. Not many in Manchester would vote for him if he were leader.


There was also this .,

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/andy-burnham-faces-questions-over-his-role-in-nhs-watchdog-scandal-8669591.html


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[Nicky91]

this thread aged well :skull:

[jet]

That's a lie, Jet. Vaccine rollout was nothing to do with brexit whatsoever.

No, it is not a lie.

How the EU’s Covid-19 vaccine rollout became an ‘advert for Brexit’

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210206-how-the-eu-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-became-an-advert-for-brexit

If we’d still been in the EU, many, many more in the UK would have died. We were at least 3 months ahead of the EU in the vaccine rollout thanks to our government’s quick actions.

[Nicky91]

No, it is not a lie.

How the EU’s Covid-19 vaccine rollout became an ‘advert for Brexit’

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210206-how-the-eu-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-became-an-advert-for-brexit

If we’d still been in the EU, many, many more in the UK would have died. We were at least 3 months ahead of the EU in the vaccine rollout thanks to our government’s quick actions.

#NotThisAgain

https://media.giphy.com/media/UVwoTQ0OvhqohViQqC/giphy.gif

[The Slim Reaper]

No, it is not a lie.

How the EU’s Covid-19 vaccine rollout became an ‘advert for Brexit’

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210206-how-the-eu-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-became-an-advert-for-brexit

If we’d still been in the EU, many, many more in the UK would have died. We were at least 3 months ahead of the EU in the vaccine rollout thanks to our government’s quick actions.

Again, it didn't. Under EU law, countries are permitted to act independently to approve vaccines. Other countries within the EU did the same thing. This has been done to death, so I thought the lies about it had stopped, but I didn't allow for you, I guess. :laugh:

[Zizu]

…

[joeysteele]

Penny didn't do too well in this tibb poll did she.
I know it's only a small number but a poor showing.

[jet]

Again, it didn't. Under EU law, countries are permitted to act independently to approve vaccines. Other countries within the EU did the same thing. This has been done to death, so I thought the lies about it had stopped, but I didn't allow for you, I guess. :laugh:

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-vaccine-struggle-pfizer-biontech-astrazeneca/

How Europe fell behind on vaccines

Heralded for months as the flagship of European solidarity during the coronavirus pandemic, the European Commission’s strategy of joint vaccine procurement is now being accused by national leaders of being too bureaucratic, too limiting to its members, too slow.

Specifically, the bloc’s decisions to prioritize process over speed and to put solidarity between EU countries ahead of giving individual governments more room to maneuver have been criticized for holding back the coronavirus response.

This account is based on dozens of interviews with diplomats, Commission officials, pharma industry representatives and national government aides. It details how the European Commission overcame a disorganized start to lead reluctant member countries in a successful effort to reserve an arsenal of vaccines that’s the envy of the world when it comes to cost and the diversification of smart bets.

It also shows how a vaccine strategy that was supposed to be a forceful show of European solidarity, an assertion of the single market’s buying power and a moral stand against Trumpian “vaccine nationalism” resulted in a rollout that has left the EU lagging behind the United Kingdom and the United States.

EU countries stuck together even as the U.S. and the U.K. bought, approved and began injecting vaccines at a faster clip. The result: lower prices, with higher accountability for drugmakers, and shots for the whole of the EU — but also delays in delivery and rising tensions among EU member countries resentful about the tradeoffs.

Over the past 10 months of the global vaccine race, the EU was often a step or two behind: Its move to secure doses came only after warnings that the U.S. might monopolize supply. Its deliberative approach to regulatory approval has left EU citizens lagging behind the U.S. and the U.K. when it comes to getting access to vaccines — at a moment when delays are counted in lost lives.....
......
I'll not call you a liar for believing differently - there was no need call me one. :wavey:

[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-vaccine-struggle-pfizer-biontech-astrazeneca/

How Europe fell behind on vaccines

Heralded for months as the flagship of European solidarity during the coronavirus pandemic, the European Commission’s strategy of joint vaccine procurement is now being accused by national leaders of being too bureaucratic, too limiting to its members, too slow.

Specifically, the bloc’s decisions to prioritize process over speed and to put solidarity between EU countries ahead of giving individual governments more room to maneuver have been criticized for holding back the coronavirus response.

This account is based on dozens of interviews with diplomats, Commission officials, pharma industry representatives and national government aides. It details how the European Commission overcame a disorganized start to lead reluctant member countries in a successful effort to reserve an arsenal of vaccines that’s the envy of the world when it comes to cost and the diversification of smart bets.

It also shows how a vaccine strategy that was supposed to be a forceful show of European solidarity, an assertion of the single market’s buying power and a moral stand against Trumpian “vaccine nationalism” resulted in a rollout that has left the EU lagging behind the United Kingdom and the United States.

EU countries stuck together even as the U.S. and the U.K. bought, approved and began injecting vaccines at a faster clip. The result: lower prices, with higher accountability for drugmakers, and shots for the whole of the EU — but also delays in delivery and rising tensions among EU member countries resentful about the tradeoffs.

Over the past 10 months of the global vaccine race, the EU was often a step or two behind: Its move to secure doses came only after warnings that the U.S. might monopolize supply. Its deliberative approach to regulatory approval has left EU citizens lagging behind the U.S. and the U.K. when it comes to getting access to vaccines — at a moment when delays are counted in lost lives.....
......
I'll not call you a liar for believing differently - there was no need call me one. :wavey:

If you ignore the fact that any country in the EU is allowed to sort their own vaccines out in a time of public health need, then you're lying. Facts don't indulge in beliefs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730


The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month.

And its chief executive, Dr June Raine, said on Wednesday that "we have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January".

[Niamh.]

No, it is not a lie.

How the EU’s Covid-19 vaccine rollout became an ‘advert for Brexit’

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210206-how-the-eu-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-became-an-advert-for-brexit

If we’d still been in the EU, many, many more in the UK would have died. We were at least 3 months ahead of the EU in the vaccine rollout thanks to our government’s quick actions.

Our vaccine roll out here in Ireland was fine, you started quicker but we over took you :p

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/06/six-eu-states-overtake-uk-covid-vaccination-britain-rollout-slows

[bots]

Our vaccine roll out here in Ireland was fine, you started quicker but we over took you :p

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/06/six-eu-states-overtake-uk-covid-vaccination-britain-rollout-slows

i thought the uk gave ireland vaccines to help them out

[Niamh.]

i thought the uk gave ireland vaccines to help them out

There was talk of that but it didn't happen

[The Slim Reaper]

i thought the uk gave ireland vaccines to help them out

You've mistaken vaccines for the empire

[jet]

If you ignore the fact that any country in the EU is allowed to sort their own vaccines out in a time of public health need, then you're lying. Facts don't indulge in beliefs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730


The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month.

And its chief executive, Dr June Raine, said on Wednesday that "we have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January".

They could, but few did. European 'solidarity' apparently.

"EU countries stuck together even as the U.S. and the U.K. bought, approved and began injecting vaccines at a faster clip."

Facts don't indulge in beliefs.

[The Slim Reaper]

They could, but few did. European 'solidarity' apparently.

"EU countries stuck together even as the U.S. and the U.K. bought, approved and began injecting vaccines at a faster clip."

Facts don't indulge in beliefs.

Some did and that's the point.

Besides, absolutely none of that is relevant. You stated that our vaccine rollout was because of brexit, I showed it wasn't, and you're still trying desperately to justify it. Weird but not unexpected.

[jet]

Some did and that's the point.

Besides, absolutely none of that is relevant. You stated that our vaccine rollout was because of brexit, I showed it wasn't, and you're still trying desperately to justify it. Weird but not unexpected.

I have never said it was directly because of Brexit? :conf:
I said:
“Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for.”

The point of my post was giving Boris his due - he had succeeded in pushing through with leaving the EU, (not that I was a big fan of leave particularly) therefore we were free from feeling the shackles of ‘solidarity’ or waiting for EMA approval, like the majority of Europe did and Boris was gutsy in giving the go ahead - the first country in the world to act. :clap2:

Why do you often feel the need to add a spiteful comment to your posts? :facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

I have never said it was directly because of Brexit? :conf:
I said:
“Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris, Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for.”

The point of my post was giving Boris his due - he had succeeded in pushing through with leaving the EU, (not that I was a big fan of leave particularly) therefore we were free from feeling the shackles of ‘solidarity’ or waiting for EMA approval, like the majority of Europe did. Boris was gutsy in giving the go ahead - the first country in the world to act. :clap2:

Why do you often feel the need to add a spiteful comment to your posts? :facepalm:

Of course not, not being shackled to the EU, replying to a post of Rustis where she said he got brexit done, could have meant absolutely anything.

What do you think was spiteful?

[jet]

Of course not, not being shackled to the EU, replying to a post of Rustis where she said he got brexit done, could have meant absolutely anything.

What do you think was spiteful?

You, when you realise you've picked up things the wrong way.

[The Slim Reaper]

You, when you realise you've picked up things the wrong way.

Ahh ok, so you found out you were wrong, and now your complaint is about how I addressed your nonsense? Nice chatting with you. As always :wavey:

[jet]

Ahh ok, so you found out you were wrong, and now your complaint is about how I addressed your nonsense? Nice chatting with you. As always :wavey:

I usually avoid engaging with you but thought I’d give you a rare treat. I understand that my superior knowledge has taxed you enough and you want to go bye bye.
So :xyxwave: to you too. :joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

I usually avoid engaging with you but thought I’d give you a rare treat. I understand that my superior knowledge has taxed you enough and you want to go bye bye.
So :xyxwave: to you too. :joker:

If I were you I'd stick to avoiding engaging with me, because you are just completely factually incorrect here. Doesn't matter whether it's me pointing it out, Niamh, Bots, LT, or anyone else. The facts are the important thing, not the messenger.

[jet]

If I were you I'd stick to avoiding engaging with me, because you are just completely factually incorrect here. Doesn't matter whether it's me pointing it out, Niamh, Bots, LT, or anyone else. The facts are the important thing, not the messenger.

Ffs. :laugh:
What does Niamh, bots, LT or anyone else have to do with it? None of them said anything about my post. Only you. I made my meaning clearer for you and if you can’t accept it I really don’t care. I’m done, but carry on about how 100% wrong you think I am if you must.
I won’t mind. :dance:

[The Slim Reaper]

Ffs. :laugh:
What does Niamh, bots, LT or anyone else have to do with it? None of them said anything about my post. Only you. I made my meaning clearer for you and if you can’t accept it I really don’t care. I’m done, but carry on about how 100% wrong you think I am if you must.
I won’t mind. :dance:

I don't think you're wrong.