Does anyone else agree with me that Rings Of Power is better than House Of The Dragon

[Merry Mockmas]

I honestly don't mean to be contrarian (I honestly can like popular Shows with the masses) and I'm not saying that The Rings Of Power is the greatest Show of all time, and I do prefer the LOTR trilogy overall.

However here's the reasons why I find The Rings Of Power to be a higher quality Show than House Of The Dragon.

And feel free to disagree with any of my points that I'm about to make, it's meant to be a fun debate after all. Hopefully you guys will at least understand some of my points though.

1. More Fantasy content
2. More likable characters (including men actually being likable, who knew)
3. More of an in-depth plot, even to the point where they can branch off to different POV's. Where as with House Of The Dragon it's jumped from Jousting to pregnancies to who Rhaenyra is gonna marry, none of it is very interesting imo
4. I actually feel like I'm watching a Show based in Middle Earth, where as House Of The Dragon reminds me more of Upstairs, Downstairs than GOT.

And on a side note that scene in episode 3 with Daemon trying to be Jack Bauer or Kiryu Kazama is tone wise really out of whack with how the GOT world has been established in the previous 8 Seasons, where the fights were meant to be a little bit more grounded.

I will be fair to Daemon though, he is the only character worth watching in the Show as it currently stands imo.

Out of interest do you agree with any of my points between the two Shows? And if you do prefer House Of The Dragon, why?:laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Nope [emoji28]

[Christmas Lights]

I'm going into this blind guessing ,as I've not watched either .

But tbh Rings of power definitely interests me more,and it looks more family friendly . I don't think I'd ever get into House of dragon .

[Merry Mockmas]

Nope [emoji28]

Out of interest what do you prefer about House Of The Dragon?

[Merry Mockmas]

I'm going into this blind guessing ,as I've not watched either .

But tbh Rings of power definitely interests me more,and it looks more family friendly . I don't think I'd ever get into House of dragon .

You've definitely got the tone of the two Shows down in terms of the age demographics they're both looking for.

So far for my personal taste, I feel like one Show is giving me a Fantasy world that's slowly bit by bit unravelling in the plot, while the other Show is essentially Downton Abbey with 2 second segments on the Dragons an episode.

It's just I honestly can't tell why anyone would prefer House Of The Dragon? I'm not meaning it to be argumentative towards House Of The Dragon fans, but I'd like to know what they think makes it the better Show.

After all I feel like I've listed very important criterias as to why I prefer Rings Of Power, I'm interested to hear what the counter argument would be.

[Zizu]

I'm going into this blind guessing ,as I've not watched either .

But tbh Rings of power definitely interests me more,and it looks more family friendly . I don't think I'd ever get into House of dragon .


Have you seen Game of Thrones in its entirety ?


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[Zizu]

You've definitely got the tone of the two Shows down in terms of the age demographics they're both looking for.

So far for my personal taste, I feel like one Show is giving me a Fantasy world that's slowly bit by bit unravelling in the plot, while the other Show is essentially Downton Abbey with 2 second segments on the Dragons an episode.

It's just I honestly can't tell why anyone would prefer House Of The Dragon? I'm not meaning it to be argumentative towards House Of The Dragon fans, but I'd like to know what they think makes it the better Show.

After all I feel like I've listed very important criterias as to why I prefer Rings Of Power, I'm interested to hear what the counter argument would be.


Maybe it just comes down to personal preferences.,

Some will love GOT others will love LOTR

Many will love both


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[Merry Mockmas]

Maybe it just comes down to personal preferences.,

Some will love GOT others will love LOTR

Many will love both


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Oh personal preference will always play a part I agree with you on that.

I loved in particular the earlier seasons of GOT, sadly I'm not seeing any of that quality in House Of The Dragon.

[Christmas Lights]

Have you seen Game of Thrones in its entirety ?


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Only some of it ,I wasn't that into it tbh .

[ChristmasNeeve]

Out of interest what do you prefer about House Of The Dragon?Better storyline, characters, action.

Loved the Lord of the Rings and The hobbit but ROP just doesn't come near to them, the characters are dull and bland, the story is way too slow moving. Visually it's great but it seems like they threw everything at making it look good and forgot about the rest. There was no real tense or edge of your seat moments like there was in HOTD

[The Slim Reaper]

LOTR was just a painful watch for me. Didn't enjoy any of it, and haven't watched any of the spin-offs.

[The Slim Reaper]

Better storyline, characters, action.

Loved the Lord of the Rings and The hobbit but ROP just doesn't come near to them, the characters are dull and bland, the story is way too slow moving. Visually it's great but it seems like they threw everything at making it look good and for got about the rest. There was no real tense or edge of your moments like there was in HOTD

But apart from that... :smug:

[ChristmasNeeve]

But apart from that... :smug:[emoji28]

[Merry Mockmas]

Better storyline, characters, action.

Loved the Lord of the Rings and The hobbit but ROP just doesn't come near to them, the characters are dull and bland, the story is way too slow moving. Visually it's great but it seems like they threw everything at making it look good and forgot about the rest. There was no real tense or edge of your seat moments like there was in HOTD

Fair enough on most of it.

I've got to be honest though I disagree with you about the plot, ROP has the mystery of who is Sauron where as HOTD just seems to be about who's knocking up who.

[arista]

No

House of Dragons was
better to follow.

Rings Of Power
I watched a few episodes
and something was wrong
it did not work well.

So I gave up.

[Merry Mockmas]

No

House of Dragons was
better to follow.

Rings Of Power
I watched a few episodes
and something was wrong
it did not work well.

So I gave up.

Fair enough.

And tbf Rings Of Power isn't a perfect Show by any means, but personally I just appreciate a Show that actually embraces it's Fantasy genre to the max, and has a plot that's a grade above basic.

Like for me I'm sick to death of Shows like HOTD, Vinland Saga, Blade Of The Immortal & Chainsaw Man where they all come out with really basic plotting that's really easy to follow and think that they're edgy because they either splatter blood everywhere because it looks cool, or there's shipping in the Show to the max.

Tbf I will try to give HOTD a bit more time just to see if anything plot wise actually holds up, but so far I honestly feel like watching Downton Abbey would be better, at least it's intended to be a more basic structured Period Drama.

And I just want to clarify I do like edgy Shows when I feel like they're done well.

And to be a bit more balanced tbf, yes Rings Of Power could do with a bit more action in the Show (after all it is a LOTR prequel) but I do feel like HOTD also has pacing issues, to the point where the plot is there but barely developed imo.

But HOTD aside, I do feel like ROP could do with a slight increase in Action scenes, and I imagine from a shipping perspective the Show could try to add a bit more in that area for Season 2, but on my personal preference I'm actually happy with the level it's currently at, but I could see it being an issue for some viewers.

Other than those flaws though I'm happy with the Show, which I don't say that very often about American TV Shows these days.

[bots]

i gave up on rings of power too, nothing ever happened. House of the dragon is in a different league

[bots]

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

[ChristmasNeeve]

Fair enough on most of it.

I've got to be honest though I disagree with you about the plot, ROP has the mystery of who is Sauron where as HOTD just seems to be about who's knocking up who.

I mean, "Game of Thrones" the clue is in the name, that's what it's always been about a fight to claim the throne, it never pretended to be anything else? I know what LOTRs/The Hobbit are about and it's completely different, as I said in my other post I loved both those series, the issue is ROP has done a piss poor job to make it interesting compared to those and is DULL compared to HOTD :shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

Not really, it's just different.

[ChristmasNeeve]

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

Not really, it's just different.

"Family Friendly" indeed :hehe:

[The Slim Reaper]

"Family Friendly" indeed :hehe:

That


Stillborn scene is a good vibes watch with the kids, and a family size bag of Maltesers

[ChristmasNeeve]

That


Stillborn scene is a good vibes watch with the kids, and a family size bag of Maltesers

I meant the characters are very very friendly with their families :hehe:

[The Slim Reaper]

I meant the characters are very very friendly with their families :hehe:

Can't believe I missed a pun. Slipping in my old age.

[Nicky91]

i'm not watching rings of power, or anything else from lord of the rings

so i cannot make the comparison myself



i find lord of the rings so boring and taking way too long (same goes for harry potter, also too long for my liking) and it's too ''fantasy'' weirdly, i find game of thrones, house of the dragon having more realism of medieval times and more actors whom i know in game of thrones franchise too (and my bias our stars Carice van Houten, Michiel Huisman ;))

[The Slim Reaper]

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[ChristmasNeeve]

Can't believe I missed a pun. Slipping in my old age.

:laugh:

[Merry Mockmas]

I mean, "Game of Thrones" the clue is in the name, that's what it's always been about a fight to claim the throne, it never pretended to be anything else? I know what LOTRs/The Hobbit are about and it's completely different, as I said in my other post I loved both those series, the issue is ROP has done a piss poor job to make it interesting compared to those and is DULL compared to HOTD :shrug:

I think the difference that I'm trying to say is that GOT had more going on than just who's gonna marry who, from the pilot alone we had the Whitewalkers being established, Daenerys and Viserys being on the other side of the world in hiding from the people from Westeros and slowly gather an army to take Kings Landing back, Bran being shoved out of a window after discovering Incest between Jaime & Cersei (which I remember they had to keep it a secret) but for some reason HOTD acts like incest is the vogue thing to do. And I remember there were just more interesting dynamics being formed in the first few episodes of GOT.

I don't think even in Season 8 would I say that GOT was uneventful.

Edit... I'd also say that GOT had really sharp dialogue that most newer Shows really lack imo.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I think the difference that I'm trying to say is that GOT had more going on than just who's gonna marry who, from the pilot alone we had the Whitewalkers being established, Daenerys and Viserys being on the other side of the world in hiding from the people from Westeros and slowly gather an army to take Kings Landing back, Bran being shoved out of a window after discovering Incest between Jaime & Cersei (which I remember they had to keep it a secret) but for some reason HOTD acts like incest is the vogue thing to do. And I remember there were just more interesting dynamics being formed in the first few episodes of GOT.

I don't think even in Season 8 would I say that GOT was uneventful.I

Edit... I'd also say that GOT had really sharp dialogue that most newer Shows really lack imo.

Yes but Game of Thrones was a much wider scale book series/show, HOTD is literally about one family, a family we got to know briefly from GOTs and a lot of people wanted to see a bit more of their history etc they'd pretty much been completely wiped out by the end of GOTs

[Merry Mockmas]

Yes but Game of Thrones was a much wider scale book series/show, HOTD is literally about one family, a family we got to know briefly from GOTs and a lot of people wanted to see a bit more of their history etc they'd pretty much been completely wiped out by the end of GOTs

I get that to some extent.

Imo though a Show based in the GOT universe needs more going on than who's gonna marry who, because the franchise has set a certain standard after 8 Seasons of the original Show that more bigger scale plots are meant to happen.

Spin-Offs should experiment to an extent, but imo weakening the plot to the point that HOTD has is disappointing imo, it's like when Caprica came out as the spin-off to Battlestar Galactica all over again for me.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I get that to some extent.

Imo though a Show based in the GOT universe needs more going on than who's gonna marry who, because the franchise has set a certain standard after 8 Seasons of the original Show that more bigger scale plots are meant to happen.

Spin-Offs should experiment to an extent, but imo weakening the plot to the point that HOTD has is disappointing imo, it's like when Caprica came out as the spin-off to Battlestar Galactica all over again for me.

It depends on the spin off though, if they did a spin off of Arya and her travels into the unmapped west of westros, that would be much less about marriage and lineage and heirs than a story about one family and their rises and fall to the the Iron throne. A spin off about Jon Snow and his life in the "wild" North would be different etc

[The Slim Reaper]

It depends on the spin off though, if they did a spin off of Arya and her travels into the unmapped west of westros, that would be much less about marriage and lineage and heirs than a story about one family and their rises and fall to the the Iron throne. A spin off about Jon Snow and his life in the "wild" North would be different etc

A Jon Snow show show is in the pipeline. Hope he finds Drogon and burns Bran and his dull fcuking stories to ashes.

[ChristmasNeeve]

A Jon Snow show show is in the pipeline. Hope he finds Drogon and burns Bran and his dull fcuking stories to ashes.

I'd have preferred an Arya Spin off personally but I'll watch whatever they make :laugh: The Bran story line turned out to be a damp squib alright. Seems like his only real purpose in the end was to reveal who Jon Snows parents were.

Interesting about Drogon though, since Jon is part tragaryn he could get to claim him if he finds him

[The Slim Reaper]

I'd have preferred an Arya Spin off personally but I'll watch whatever they make :laugh: The Bran story line turned out to be a damp squib alright. Seems like his only real purpose in the end was to reveal who Jon Snows parents were.

Interesting about Drogon though, since Jon is part tragaryn he could get to claim him if he finds him

I think there could be more to the bran/jon spinoff. Obviously those wearwood trees aren't in it for the greater good, and bran flat out saying "why do you think I came all this way?" in that stupid meeting hints at the fact he knew a lot more than he let on.

Emilia is supposed to be in the spin off, so maybe some blood magic or maybe flashbacks of some sort?

I liked Arya through the show but the last couple of seasons ruined her. Not her fault (they did the same to jon), so I'd guess there is less interest in seeing her again from the wider public. Everyone watched Jon in the thick of it for more seasons, and then were let down by "muh queen, I don't want it," so more people probably want to see him rehabilitated.

[Zizu]

I'd have preferred an Arya Spin off personally but I'll watch whatever they make :laugh: The Bran story line turned out to be a damp squib alright. Seems like his only real purpose in the end was to reveal who Jon Snows parents were.

Interesting about Drogon though, since Jon is part tragaryn he could get to claim him if he finds him


What about a Daenerys spin off which starts with her awaking from a dream / nightmare but really everything is just fine and dandy with her and John Snow ..

Well it happened in Dallas or was it Dynasty ?


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[ChristmasNeeve]

I think there could be more to the bran/jon spinoff. Obviously those wearwood trees aren't in it for the greater good, and bran flat out saying "why do you think I came all this way?" in that stupid meeting hints at the fact he knew a lot more than he let on.

Emilia is supposed to be in the spin off, so maybe some blood magic or maybe flashbacks of some sort?

I liked Arya through the show but the last couple of seasons ruined her. Not her fault (they did the same to jon), so I'd guess there is less interest in seeing her again from the wider public. Everyone watched Jon in the thick of it for more seasons, and then were let down by "muh queen, I don't want it," so more people probably want to see him rehabilitated.

Arya was great all the way through!

Best moment of the whole series for me was this


https://media.tenor.com/qZDPir3sIe4AAAAd/killing-the-night-king.gif

[ChristmasNeeve]

What about a Daenerys spin off which starts with her awaking from a dream / nightmare but really everything is just fine and dandy with her and John Snow ..

Well it happened in Dallas or was it Dynasty ?


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No thanks :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

That's the laziest writing trope imaginable.

[The Slim Reaper]

Arya was great all the way through!

Best moment of the whole series for me was this


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I think this was mine

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When he arrives to rescue her for the very first time

[Merry Mockmas]

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

Well they do say incest is best.

[Merry Mockmas]

It depends on the spin off though, if they did a spin off of Arya and her travels into the unmapped west of westros, that would be much less about marriage and lineage and heirs than a story about one family and their rises and fall to the the Iron throne. A spin off about Jon Snow and his life in the "wild" North would be different etc

An example of an interesting plot for HOTD imo that could work for the Show is one where trouble is brewing between the Targaryens and another house, and there's a traitor in Kings Landing leaking intel to the enemy house about their strategies and other stuff (I'm not a writer so I'm coming up with a rough sketch) and basically the King & Rhaenyra have to try and figure out who the traitor is, plus trying to stop an out and out war from breaking out.

I'm probably explaining it in a rough way, but it's more than what HOTD is currently displaying imo.

Tbf to HOTD though I think it's a trend to make Shows with really basic plotting, hopefully a trend that dies very soon.:laugh:

[Merry Mockmas]

A Jon Snow show show is in the pipeline. Hope he finds Drogon and burns Bran and his dull fcuking stories to ashes.

I'm into that idea.:laugh:

Bran was always one of GOT's duller characters.

[Henryno]

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

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[Nicky91]

''Dutch Adonis'' Michiel Huisman returning in the Jon Snow spin off pls as Daario Naharis


finding out Jon murdered his love and he wants to have his revenge



would make up for a nice storyline i think


Daario learning to ride Drogon would also make more sense

[ChristmasNeeve]

''Dutch Adonis'' Michiel Huisman returning in the Jon Snow spin off pls as Daario Naharis


finding out Jon murdered his love and he wants to have his revenge



would make up for a nice storyline i think


Daario learning to ride Drogon would also make more senseDon't you have to have Targaryn blood to be a dragon rider?

[The Grinch]

So far I’m loving HOD, but haven’t seen lotr but seen the movies which I thought were ok I guess so it makes me think I won’t really enjoy the tv show. Might be wrong though

[ChristmasNeeve]

So far I’m loving HOD, but haven’t seen lotr but seen the movies which I thought were ok I guess so it makes me think I won’t really enjoy the tv show. Might be wrong though

Well, imo if you thought the movies were only OK then ROP won't do much for you because they're a lot worse than the Films (which I loved)

[ChristmasNeeve]

''Dutch Adonis'' Michiel Huisman returning in the Jon Snow spin off pls as Daario Naharis


finding out Jon murdered his love and he wants to have his revenge



would make up for a nice storyline i think


Daario learning to ride Drogon would also make more sense

Also, in what way do you #standwithIran? You stand by their right to murder women in the street for not wearing a head scarf?

[The Slim Reaper]

Don't you have to have Targaryn blood to be a dragon rider?

It's the blood of old Valyria, but as it's only the Targaryen's that are still around, Dario would be a snack if he approached Drogon.

[ChristmasNeeve]

It's the blood of old Valyria, but as it's only the Targaryen's that are still around, Dario would be a snack if he approached Drogon.

That's what I was thinking. Has to be Jon, so Daario is toast I'm afraid :hehe:

[The Slim Reaper]

That's what I was thinking. Has to be Jon, so Daario is toast I'm afraid :hehe:

Also, I think Dario probably needs to move on at this point. I know some relationships are tougher to get over than others, but c'mon dude.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Also, I think Dario probably needs to move on at this point. I know some relationships are tougher to get over than others, but c'mon dude.

he was an annoying character anyway, I'd rather not have him back

[bots]

Dario had serious identity issues too. He changed dramatically one series to the next :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Dario had serious identity issues too. He changed dramatically one series to the next :laugh:

:laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Dario had serious identity issues too. He changed dramatically one series to the next :laugh:

The first one had a really over pronounced facial features. He was simultaneously handsome, and difficult to look at.

[Zizu]

Dario had serious identity issues too. He changed dramatically one series to the next :laugh:


Dario had serious identity issues too. He changed dramatically one series to the next :laugh:

I just convinced myself that he was a new boyfriend of Khaleesi. :)

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[Merry Mockmas]

Well, imo if you thought the movies were only OK then ROP won't do much for you because they're a lot worse than the Films (which I loved)

Oh ROP is definitely weaker than the Films imo.

Niamh is right in that sense, if you didn't love the Trilogy then it's unlikely that you're gonna love ROP because imo it's weaker quality.

But then I suppose the same could be said for HOTD, if you don't love GOT then you're chances of loving HOTD should be low imo.:laugh:

[user104658]

Oh ROP is definitely weaker than the Films imo.

Niamh is right in that sense, if you didn't love the Trilogy then it's unlikely that you're gonna love ROP because imo it's weaker quality.

But then I suppose the same could be said for HOTD, if you don't love GOT then you're chances of loving HOTD should be low imo.:laugh:

Sorry to say I'm afraid it's the opposite for me; I find Rings of Power barely watchable specifically BECAUSE I love the original trilogy. I'd say compare it to the "Shadow of..." LOTR games - completely different storyline, I don't think they're official canon, however they capture the FEEL of the movies perfectly.

Rings of Power misses the mark by a mile. Tone, filmography, sound track... it just misses on every aspect. If it was a random standalone fantasy series I think I'd find it decent enough but as LOTR it's just a huge disappointment.

[Merry Mockmas]

Sorry to say I'm afraid it's the opposite for me; I find Rings of Power barely watchable specifically BECAUSE I love the original trilogy. I'd say compare it to the "Shadow of..." LOTR games - completely different storyline, I don't think they're official canon, however they capture the FEEL of the movies perfectly.

Rings of Power misses the mark by a mile. Tone, filmography, sound track... it just misses on every aspect. If it was a random standalone fantasy series I think I'd find it decent enough but as LOTR it's just a huge disappointment.

Fair enough.

I meant though that quality wise I feel like the Trilogy is better than ROP, so I'd personally be surprised if someone preferred ROP to LOTR.

Welcome to the Forum btw.:wavey:

[Zizu]

I tried watching the Lord of the Rings spin-off series last night .. managed about 15 minutes and left them climbing up a wall of ice ….Game of Thrones did that better :)

I may try again tonight but I found it remarkably slow moving and tedious ..

Is it really worth persisting with ??

Does it get a lot better ... soon ?


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[ChristmasNeeve]

I tried watching the Lord of the Rings spin-off series last night .. managed about 15 minutes and left them climbing up a wall of ice ….Game of Thrones did that better :)

I may try again tonight but I found it remarkably slow moving and tedious ..

Is it really worth persisting with ??

Does it get a lot better ... soon ?


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Not really, it's pretty slow most of the way through, the characters aren't great or likable/engaging either (imo)

[Merry Mockmas]

I tried watching the Lord of the Rings spin-off series last night .. managed about 15 minutes and left them climbing up a wall of ice ….Game of Thrones did that better :)

I may try again tonight but I found it remarkably slow moving and tedious ..

Is it really worth persisting with ??

Does it get a lot better ... soon ?


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Pacing is both Fantasy Shows weakness imo.

I just felt that ROP's slowness at least was building up potential storylines for the second Season.

Oh and less man hating.

[Zizu]

Not really, it's pretty slow most of the way through, the characters aren't great or likable/engaging either (imo)


The characters are the main thing for me .. that’s where why felt GOT was so compelling .

Vikings had Ragnar Lothbrok of course


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[bots]

Season 2 is out now. I watched the first episode in the hope that they had picked up the pace. Unfortunately, it remains the same

[ChristmasNeeve]

Season 2 is out now. I watched the first episode in the hope that they had picked up the pace. Unfortunately, it remains the sameDon't think I'll bother with it

[Christmas Lights]

I haven't watched either ,but from what I gather...

Rings Of Power is more family friendly...so I'd be more inclined to watch that ,plus I was never a big GOT fan.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Scrap that Gav wants to watch it so I'll be viewing it tonight [emoji23]

[Merry Mockmas]

I haven't watched either ,but from what I gather...

Rings Of Power is more family friendly...so I'd be more inclined to watch that ,plus I was never a big GOT fan.

In Season 1 I felt like Rings Of Power had more of a plot going on, and better worldbuilding than House Of The Dragon personally.

I haven't seen either Show's second Season though.

[Nicky91]

who cares about ***** overhyped lord of the rings, never watched it, because they all take way too long

same goes for harry potter, also never got the hype of those way too long films

[bots]

Scrap that Gav wants to watch it so I'll be viewing it tonight [emoji23]


i recommend a strong coffee before you start :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

i recommend a strong coffee before you start :laugh:

I watched the first episode last night, I thought it was alright actually, there was a bit of action in it at least