View Full Version : World Cup 2022: England v France QF Match Thread - 7PM ITV
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 12:17 PM
Who do you think will win?
Can Mbappe be stopped?
Will it go to penalties?
Kate!
10-12-2022, 12:23 PM
I hope and pray for England to emerge victorious, but France are a very good team so we'll have to go with our A game.
Come on guys you can do it!
AnnieK
10-12-2022, 12:49 PM
2-1 to England
I know that's the score because my son just showed me a time traveller on TikTok who said so
arista
10-12-2022, 12:50 PM
It starts 7PM
arista
10-12-2022, 12:54 PM
Who do you think will win?
Can Mbappe be stopped?
Will it go to penalties?
It could do
This time,
England must kick harder
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 12:54 PM
It starts 7PM
Yes it does.
Corrected.
(9PM in Finland etc.)
Nicky91
10-12-2022, 12:56 PM
hopefully it is a way better ref than last night :laugh:
arista
10-12-2022, 12:56 PM
Yes it does.
Corrected.
(9PM in Finland etc.)
Of course,
you are ahead in time
arista
10-12-2022, 12:56 PM
hopefully it is a way better ref than last night :laugh:
Yes the Ref
can get bias
Nicky91
10-12-2022, 03:35 PM
Yes the Ref
can get bias
no not just bias, just acting like a pure lunatic
let that Lahoz never get any match ever again pls, he belongs in a mental asylum
So he gives that soft free kick to Portugal yet when Ziyech gets taken out by Diaz and limped off he just played on
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Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2022, 03:44 PM
Hopefully, England will win and they are more than capable
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 04:00 PM
Winner of this gets Morocco.
Whether it's a blessing or curse, remains to be seen.
Winner of this gets Morocco.
Whether it's a blessing or curse, remains to be seen.
sometimes it's fate and Morocco are looking unstoppable right now, it's going to take something very special to beat them
Nicky91
10-12-2022, 04:08 PM
Winner of this gets Morocco.
Whether it's a blessing or curse, remains to be seen.
to hopefully destroy the lazy losers of morocco
Nicky91
10-12-2022, 04:09 PM
sometimes it's fate and Morocco are looking unstoppable right now, it's going to take something very special to beat them
they have to lose next match, they just have to or else
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 04:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TLtQ6XE.png
settled sides on both sides
What’s the betting that Foden makes an early , careless pass / flick that gives them chance to break on us ..
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i hope there will be an early goal, so it doesnt end up a bore fest
On a lighter note I had this crazy feeling that Maguire and Stones will both score !!
Oddly enough I was mocked years ago for claiming that John Stones could be a great Cb :)
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Kate!
10-12-2022, 06:02 PM
i hope there will be an early goal, so it doesnt end up a bore fest
Me too.
Kate!
10-12-2022, 06:02 PM
Watching now
arista
10-12-2022, 06:14 PM
14mins gone
no goal, yet.
The French seem to be running faster
if kane keeps passing the ball back from the french penalty area to the half way line it's going to be a long evening for England :laugh:
AnnieK
10-12-2022, 06:16 PM
France look more hungry
arista
10-12-2022, 06:17 PM
France gets a Easy Goal.
Through the legs
He was far away
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 06:17 PM
1-0 to France
Bollocks! France look the much better side tbh. Though it was a clean foul on Saka in the build up
Mbappe is wandering from side to side and england cant deal with it
arista
10-12-2022, 06:19 PM
Yes, I noticed France trying harder.
AnnieK
10-12-2022, 06:19 PM
Bollocks! France look the much better side tbh. Though it was a clean foul on Saka in the build up
Yep...was a foul but that goal was coming one way or another
GiRTh
10-12-2022, 06:21 PM
Luke Shaw on free kicks :facepalm:
it was simply a good goal, why cant the commentators just accept it
arista
10-12-2022, 06:22 PM
A chance of a Goal
but he kicks it Direct to the Middle?
arista
10-12-2022, 06:23 PM
it was simply a good goal, why cant the commentators just accept it
Yes very good point
the england team seem to have the wrong attitude to me, if you are going to win a game you get on with it and make your own luck
the england team seem to have the wrong attitude to me, if you are going to win a game you get on with it and make your own luck
I understand what you're saying, but 2 clear fouls missed by VAR has cost England dearly
Kate!
10-12-2022, 06:51 PM
We're being robbed. The refs a biased bastard.
arista
10-12-2022, 06:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjo0_eyXwAMv03S?format=jpg&name=small
Sadly PM
it's not looking good
arista
10-12-2022, 06:52 PM
We're being robbed. The refs a biased bastard.
But the French got an Easy, Lucky Goal
from so far way, as well.
Kate!
10-12-2022, 06:54 PM
But the French got an Easy, Lucky Goal
from so far way, as well.
They wouldn't have got it if the ref had seen the foul. He turned a blind eye. And we should have had a penalty. Disgusting. Am fumed.
Sadly too many players are anonymous
Alphabetical order
Foden
Henderson
Rice
Saka
Subs. .. pronto
Grealish on the left , Rashford on the right
Bring on Maddison for Henderson
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Kate!
10-12-2022, 07:06 PM
Yeah get Grealish on.
Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2022, 07:10 PM
Foden is anonymous
grealish is always poor for england
if anyone can save this, the french keeper can
edit: good prediction lol
arista
10-12-2022, 07:14 PM
1 -1 now
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 07:14 PM
1-1.
this is what we want, a proper game
arista
10-12-2022, 07:15 PM
Will this end up in a horrible penalty
finish?
Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2022, 07:17 PM
Great pen
mbappe is going to be the difference
england will tire themselves out and france will pounce
boom, france are more clinical
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 07:38 PM
2-1 France.
Kate!
10-12-2022, 07:38 PM
Jesus Christ! Come on England ffs.
yeah sterling, thats the answer :laugh:
that was an obvious penalty :laugh:
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 07:46 PM
What a miss from Kane.
i hope Mbappe doesn't regret that grin
arista
10-12-2022, 07:55 PM
All Harrys fault
He could have got a Goal
EASY
Oh well, we had a good go, beaten by the best national team in the world, and current holders. The officiating was awful though. The best team probably didn't win, a draw seemed a more fair result.
will england do a holland?
GiRTh
10-12-2022, 08:01 PM
No knighthood for Gareth.
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 08:01 PM
Match ends.
France wins and advances.
Vanessa
10-12-2022, 08:02 PM
Kane should have got that penalty. What a shame!
arista
10-12-2022, 08:02 PM
France deserved the win
Thats True
Kate!
10-12-2022, 08:02 PM
france deserved the win
Well let's face they had an extra player in the ref.
Well let's face they had an extra player in the ref.
thats not true, VAR was also there to make sure the decision was correct
thats not true, VAR was also there to make sure the decision was correct
Nah sorry, so many decisions went against us. Both were clear pens.
Kate!
10-12-2022, 08:04 PM
thats not true, VAR was also there to make sure the decision was correct
The decision was NOT correct. We should've have a other penalty. Sniff.
GiRTh
10-12-2022, 08:06 PM
What a miss from Kane.They wanted Gary Lineker, they got Chris Waddle. :laugh::laugh:
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 08:07 PM
Better team won.
Did they though? England had more chances. I feel it was 50/50. Deserved ET
Kate!
10-12-2022, 08:09 PM
Better team won.
Disagree completely. It was daylight robbery.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:10 PM
If the Referee wasn't so criminally awful, we'd be going to extra time right now.
Although being fair to France, I do honestly believe that they just beat the toughest opponents for themselves in the competition.
I honestly don't think that the other three teams will get the Referee getting his Pom Poms out as much as we did today.
rusticgal
10-12-2022, 08:10 PM
I’m sorry but the ref was a disgrace…
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:12 PM
boom, france are more clinical
France had 12 men on the pitch.
I’m sorry but the ref was a disgrace…
He was, not excuses, neutrals hate England so of course they're say otherwise. But it was pretty clear.
UserSince2005
10-12-2022, 08:15 PM
So glad this is done. Thank you France.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:16 PM
thats not true, VAR was also there to make sure the decision was correct
It is true.
VAR even failed to give the penalty that we should've had in the first half, plus France's first goal should've been disallowed because of Saka being fouled beforehand.
The officiating was completely biased towards France.
Calderyon
10-12-2022, 08:16 PM
Did they though? England had more chances. I feel it was 50/50. Deserved ET
Kane's fault.
He got a chance to equalize the match and missed spectacularly.
Look we had a far , far stronger bench ..
Why not bring on 4 subs .. fresh legs when it was 1:1 ?
They had no decent subs to bring on …
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grealish is always poor for england
He was our best player in his first five England games ..
Have you conveniently forgotten his performance against Germany ..
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mbappe is going to be the difference
He was on the periphery if everything.
Dembele was far better on the night as I suggested before the game
Greizman ran the show
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Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:26 PM
He was, not excuses, neutrals hate England so of course they're say otherwise. But it was pretty clear.
Exactly.
If people actually judge the match on what actually happened and not on which team that they like more, they'll see that England should've had a penalty in the first half, and France's first goal should've been disallowed because of the foul on Saka up the other end of the pitch.
These are facts of what happened in the game, and considering France only won narrowly, to say that it didn't make a difference, or that France deserved the win is just not true.
Kate!
10-12-2022, 08:32 PM
Exactly.
If people actually judge the match on what actually happened and not on which team that they like more, they'll see that England should've had a penalty in the first half, and France's first goal should've been disallowed because of the foul on Saka up the other end of the pitch.
These are facts of what happened in the game, and considering France only won narrowly, to say that it didn't make a difference, or that France deserved the win is just not true.
Very well said.
there are contentious decisions in every match, it is football. Players and fans need to accept that not everyone sees marginal things the same way
Exactly.
If people actually judge the match on what actually happened and not on which team that they like more, they'll see that England should've had a penalty in the first half, and France's first goal should've been disallowed because of the foul on Saka up the other end of the pitch.
These are facts of what happened in the game, and considering France only won narrowly, to say that it didn't make a difference, or that France deserved the win is just not true.
Yeah, all what you say is true. People get fed up with the hype surrounding England in British Isles. But at least one team constantly makes it the tournaments and does well.
The Scots and the Welsh will be celebrating like they won the world cup tonight, after England's exit. Ironic really, Scotland didn't make it, and the only team worse than Wales was Qatar, which is just plain embarrassing. Wales didn't even score an goal from open play, Qatar did.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:37 PM
there are contentious decisions in every match, it is football. Players and fans need to accept that not everyone sees marginal things the same way
Saka and Kane were blatantly fouled though.
And are we seriously gonna act like the Referee wasn't giving everything to France? The second penalty had to go to VAR because the Referee "didn't see it" apparently.
Anyway, im off to lick my wounds and gorge on soar grapes :joker:
Saka and Kane were blatantly fouled though.
And are we seriously gonna act like the Referee wasn't giving everything to France? The second penalty had to go to VAR because the Referee "didn't see it" apparently.
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Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:44 PM
Yeah, all what you say is true. People get fed up with the hype surrounding England in British Isles. But at least one team constantly makes it the tournaments and does well.
The Scots and the Welsh will be celebrating like they won the world cup tonight, after England's exit. Ironic really, Scotland didn't make it, and the only team worse than Wales was Qatar, which is just plain embarrassing. Wales didn't even score an goal from open play, Qatar did.
All too true.
Scotland got sliced open by San Marino that one time.:joker:
But honestly if Scotland or Wales had been robbed like England were today, I would be saying the exact same thing that I'm saying now, I can't stand results being determined by dodgy Ref decisions.
Heck I'd even say the same thing if it was a Premier League match and Aston Villa were robbed by a pathetic Referee decision, it isn't on to cheat teams out of competitions imo.
Kate!
10-12-2022, 08:45 PM
All too true.
Scotland got sliced open by San Marino that one time.:joker:
But honestly if Scotland or Wales had been robbed like England were today, I would be saying the exact same thing that I'm saying now, I can't stand results being determined by dodgy Ref decisions.
Heck I'd even say the same thing if it was a Premier League match and Aston Villa were robbed by a pathetic Referee decision, it isn't on to cheat teams out of competitions imo.
:worship: tell em Mock.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:46 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/l4FGr3nzq5u0m02vm/giphy.webp
:joker:
But what I'm saying is true, but a funny post, I can't deny that.:laugh:
Denver
10-12-2022, 08:48 PM
Well let's face they had an extra player in the ref.
The same ref who gave us 2 penalties? We couldn't deliver and that was simply as that
Denver
10-12-2022, 08:49 PM
Harry Kane got to cocky before the match saying how he was gonna beat the French and that to then sky and important penalty which in itself is hilarious
Kate!
10-12-2022, 08:49 PM
The same ref who gave us 2 penalties? We couldn't deliver and that was simply as that
He had no choice but to give them. We SHOULD have had three. And France first goal should have been disallowed.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 08:50 PM
The same ref who gave us 2 penalties? We couldn't deliver and that was simply as that
He gave us one penalty.
VAR had to give the other one, and both the Ref & VAR missed the third one.:joker:
Yeah, all what you say is true. People get fed up with the hype surrounding England in British Isles. But at least one team constantly makes it the tournaments and does well.
The Scots and the Welsh will be celebrating like they won the world cup tonight, after England's exit. Ironic really, Scotland didn't make it, and the only team worse than Wales was Qatar, which is just plain embarrassing. Wales didn't even score an goal from open play, Qatar did.
but as a Scot, i have zero expectation of them having any success, so they are never a disappointment, and i never get sour grapes about it
joeysteele
10-12-2022, 09:21 PM
It wasn't a pleasing game to watch really.
However the miss of the penalty from the standard of player Kane is.
That really was where the match could have turned if he'd put that away.
I understand though the pressure he'd feel at that particular moment in time with time moving on.
The time he brought Grealish on was totally ridiculous too however.
I'm no admirer of Grealish, he usually spends more time ON the ground than running on it.
However no way in added time could he have performed a miracle in barely 3 or 4 minutes.
Sad for England.
However good luck to France in the semi finals now.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2022, 09:24 PM
It wasn't a pleasing game to watch really.
However the miss of the penalty from the standard of player Kane is.
That really was where the match could have turned if he'd put that away.
I understand though the pressure he'd feel at that particular moment in time with time moving on.
The time he brought Grealish on was totally ridiculous too however.
I'm no admirer of Grealish, he usually spends more time ON the ground than running on it.
However no way in added time could he have performed a miracle in barely 3 or 4 minutes.
Sad for England.
However good luck to France in the semi finals now.
I agree with you on Grealish.
He needed at bare minimum 10 minutes to try and make an impact.
Saka and Kane were blatantly fouled though.
And are we seriously gonna act like the Referee wasn't giving everything to France? The second penalty had to go to VAR because the Referee "didn't see it" apparently.
And what about the Bellingham penalty claim ?
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joeysteele
10-12-2022, 09:29 PM
I agree with you on Grealish.
He needed at bare minimum 10 minutes to try and make an impact.
Yes, definitely Mock.
I've seen it all before too many times.
We were the the better team over 90 minutes but they were just more clinical than us.
Classic centre forwards goal for their winnner. Our centre forward fluffed his lines when it came to the crunch.
Pro Sniper
10-12-2022, 10:44 PM
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Saka looked our most dangerous player in the second half when he was taking their defenders on. Pity he couldn't have been doing that in the first half.
Bellingham struggled to get into the game but he's still a young kid so can be forgiven. Henderson and Rice were great in the middle of the park and both worked their socks off.
They didn't really trouble us, but they just took the slim chances they did have.
As great as Harry Kane has been in his career, he flopped on the biggest moment.
The 1990 team with a spine of Shilton, Walker, Gascoigne and Lineker is still the best England World cup side I've seen in my lifetime. We got beat on penalties in the semi final by the eventual winners (a great German team) on that night.
The ref was a joke.
Maybe I'm being bias but he seemed to favour France.
That was a foul on Saka leading up to their first goal. Then we didn't even get a free kick when Kane was brought down just outside the area. Then that should have been a red card on our last penalty, a last man foul.
The ref was a joke.
Maybe I'm being bias but he seemed to favour France.
That was a foul on Saka leading up to their first goal. Then we didn't even get a free kick when Kane was brought down just outside the area. Then that should have been a red card on our last penalty, a last man foul.
I’d agree , I felt that they were getting 90% of the decisions BEFORE the foul on Saka leading to their goal plus the two penalty claims that we didn’t get
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Kate!
11-12-2022, 01:37 AM
With a different ref we'd have won. Sigh.
With a different ref we'd have won. Sigh.
I was just thinking that it would be fascinating to get a different ref to watch and referee the game after the event …
They did that with the 1970 FA Cup final of Chelsea v Leeds United but using today’s rules and guidelines..
I seem to recall that he would have sent about 17 players off including the Leeds goalkeeper
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Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 02:45 AM
And what about the Bellingham penalty claim ?
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Exactly.
I mean it's not some kind of huge conspiracy theory from England fans when the Referee is doing these things, nobody is making him.
arista
11-12-2022, 06:19 AM
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arista
11-12-2022, 06:20 AM
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arista
11-12-2022, 06:22 AM
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arista
11-12-2022, 06:24 AM
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Nicky91
11-12-2022, 07:31 AM
why does Maguire keep playing LMAO :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: he is not even good enough for a 5th division club :laugh3:
France were the better side overall, and no the ref kept things fair and square i thought, unlike that lunatic Lahoz at NL - ARG
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 07:41 AM
why does Maguire keep playing LMAO :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: he is not even good enough for a 5th division club :laugh3:
France were the better side overall, and no the ref kept things fair and square i thought, unlike that lunatic Lahoz at NL - ARG
At least that Ref was an arsehole to both sides, this one was just being an ass to England, even when they were blatant offences by France.
And with Maguire in fairness he has had a decent World Cup, and he did nearly score which is more than what some players were getting in the match.
Nicky91
11-12-2022, 08:09 AM
At least that Ref was an arsehole to both sides, this one was just being an ass to England, even when they were blatant offences by France.
And with Maguire in fairness he has had a decent World Cup, and he did nearly score which is more than what some players were getting in the match.
Maguire a decent world cup :joker: :joker: he cannot even play one simple pass right :laugh3:
but probably has family in the team staff or something :joker::joker::joker::joker:
Mock fighting the good fight in here :clap1:
I think we played well and deserved to win but that's football. This team still makes me proud to English and I wouldn't blame any one of them for that result
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2022, 10:07 AM
Southgate still not beaten a decent team and never will, he is not a winner and neither is Kane im afraid
its rinse and repeat yet again
Southgate still not beaten a decent team and never will, he is not a winner and neither is Kane im afraid
its rinse and repeat yet again
What about ze Germans
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2022, 10:19 AM
What about ze Germans
that was in the round of 16
im talking when it matters
arista
11-12-2022, 10:35 AM
Kane's fault.
He got a chance to equalize the match and missed spectacularly.
Should have used another player
Kane keeps doing this.
Calderyon
11-12-2022, 10:36 AM
In the end, the continuation of the match was down to Kane and Kane only.
And he blew it in a way that would make Roberto Baggio proud.
Should have used another player
Kane keeps doing this.
He probably has one of the best penalty records in the world
winning the world cup isn't easy and Kane did a Spurs when it really mattered.
If they played france off the park they wouldn't be moaning about referee decisions and to be honest, france weren't anything close to their best and england werent as clinical up front as an under par france
Morocco have the form in this tournament, and they are the team to be beaten now if any of the other 3 are going to win it
I think you and LT are a little bit too pleased about this result bots
I think you and LT are a little bit too pleased about this result bots
:laugh:
I think England have a wonderful squad of players, but they haven't performed to their potential when it mattered in 40+ years. I don't know what the answer is. It's easy to blame an individual or the manager, but with the strength and depth they have, they under perform every time it matters
Calderyon
11-12-2022, 11:24 AM
England will win when the World Cup is held in England.
(Or rest of the UK)
Think if this group of players never win anything it will be a bit of a travesty
Saka, Foden, Rice, Bellingham, even Kane should have a few more majors in them
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2022, 11:26 AM
:laugh:
I think England have a wonderful squad of players, but they haven't performed to their potential when it mattered in 40+ years. I don't know what the answer is. It's easy to blame an individual or the manager, but with the strength and depth they have, they under perform every time it matters
Bots earlier...
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Think if this group of players never win anything it will be a bit of a travesty
Saka, Foden, Rice, Bellingham, even Kane should have a few more majors in them
think of the Venables era. Great manager, Gascoyne, Lineker etc etc etc and they couldn't do it. They were better than the current squad
rusticgal
11-12-2022, 01:15 PM
Well I thought the boys did good...at least we didn't go out on penalties which I always find the worst way to go out of a competition. Its not like Kane's miss would have won the game for us..we will never know.
Nicky91
11-12-2022, 01:17 PM
oh well, depression now, now almost time for Freya to maybe lighten up the GBP their moods with maybe a decent comeback result at the junior esc
am almost sure there'll be jokes being made regarding the world cup flops from NL and England :laugh:
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 04:50 PM
Mock fighting the good fight in here :clap1:
I think we played well and deserved to win but that's football. This team still makes me proud to English and I wouldn't blame any one of them for that result
Thanks MTVN.:blush:
Honestly I feel like England were cheated out of the World Cup, I now understand how the England fans felt about Maradona's Hand Of God goal back in the day.
Especially in this case, because we can beat the other teams left in the competition, I'm very confident on that.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 04:53 PM
In the end, the continuation of the match was down to Kane and Kane only.
And he blew it in a way that would make Roberto Baggio proud.
Oh that miss was spectacular, I'll grant you that.:joker:
But the main responsibility for this result has to go to the Referee, he gave France's first goal, and to give France credit they're already a great team, so it's not gonna be easy for England anyway, so the Referee keep constantly ****ing England over basically made it impossible for us to win the game.
He honestly shouldn't officiate another World Cup match again.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 05:00 PM
winning the world cup isn't easy and Kane did a Spurs when it really mattered.
If they played france off the park they wouldn't be moaning about referee decisions and to be honest, france weren't anything close to their best and england werent as clinical up front as an under par france
Morocco have the form in this tournament, and they are the team to be beaten now if any of the other 3 are going to win it
Let's face it, England and France basically already played the real final out.
Morocco are a good team, but France have already beat England who are the better team, even if it was through dodgy means on how they beat us.
Basically we would beat Morocco, so I feel like France shouldn't have too much trouble against them, if they do then it proves that they were dragged through to a round that they shouldn't have been in, because Morocco are the weakest team left in the competition on paper.
Let's face it, England and France basically already played the real final out.
Morocco are a good team, but France have already beat England who are the better team, even if it was through dodgy means on how they beat us.
Basically we would beat Morocco, so I feel like France shouldn't have too much trouble against them, if they do then it proves that they were dragged through to a round that they shouldn't have been in, because Morocco are the weakest team left in the competition on paper.
everybody is mocking Morocco and they have put out 3 major teams and conceded 1 goal the entire tournament.
James
11-12-2022, 06:05 PM
My view is that it was fairly-even match, but France had more firepower up front.
The french players were making some really rash tackles, the second penalty was one of most unnecessary penalties I've seen in a while.
Blaming the referee is clutching at straws a bit. IMO.
My view is that it was fairly-even match, but France had more firepower up front.
The french players were making some really rash tackles, the second penalty was one of most unnecessary penalties I've seen in a while.
Blaming the referee is clutching at straws a bit. IMO.
Really !?
The LB clattered into Saka at least 8 times and only got booked once ..
That ridiculous foul on Saka where he played on and VAR found nothing wrung then they scored 45 seconds later ..
There were another obvious two penalty claims that were ignored.
The guy who clattered into Mount for the penalty was carrying a booking but wasn’t booked for a deliberate barge - preventing a certain goal .. should have been a straight red but he wasn’t even booked
There were many , many other instances
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Calderyon
11-12-2022, 07:59 PM
Oh that miss was spectacular, I'll grant you that.:joker:
But the main responsibility for this result has to go to the Referee, he gave France's first goal, and to give France credit they're already a great team, so it's not gonna be easy for England anyway, so the Referee keep constantly ****ing England over basically made it impossible for us to win the game.
He honestly shouldn't officiate another World Cup match again.
If Kane equalizes, the result could have been different.
Regardless of the referee.
He deserves the blame imo.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 09:47 PM
everybody is mocking Morocco and they have put out 3 major teams and conceded 1 goal the entire tournament.
Morocco's done well, but they've beaten teams that England and France would eat for breakfast at the moment.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 09:51 PM
My view is that it was fairly-even match, but France had more firepower up front.
The french players were making some really rash tackles, the second penalty was one of most unnecessary penalties I've seen in a while.
Blaming the referee is clutching at straws a bit. IMO.
In what way is it clutching at straws though?
Didn't he allow France's first goal to stand? Didn't he deny England multiple blatant penalties? Didn't he also allow France to just foul England players for 90 minutes?
I get that people don't want to be sour grapes or whatever, but to say that the Referee had no impact on the result is a tiny bit disingenuous imo.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 09:53 PM
If Kane equalizes, the result could have been different.
Regardless of the referee.
He deserves the blame imo.
But if the Referee could spot obvious fouls it's 1-1 (even with Kane's miss) so it goes to extra time.
So the result is the Referee's fault.
James
11-12-2022, 10:36 PM
Really !?
The LB clattered into Saka at least 8 times and only got booked once ..
That ridiculous foul on Saka where he played on and VAR found nothing wrung then they scored 45 seconds later ..
I didn't think that was a foul. :whistle:
There were another obvious two penalty claims that were ignored.
The Kane one looked outside the box, it was marginal though.
The guy who clattered into Mount for the penalty was carrying a booking but wasn’t booked for a deliberate barge - preventing a certain goal .. should have been a straight red but he wasn’t even booked
There were many , many other instances
Mount didn't have control of the ball and it wasn't a clear goal-scoring opportunity, so no red.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2022, 11:06 PM
I didn't think that was a foul. :whistle:
The Kane one looked outside the box, it was marginal though.
Mount didn't have control of the ball and it wasn't a clear goal-scoring opportunity, so no red.
The Kane one was more messed up imo because the Referee didn't even acknowledge it as a foul at all.
And the Saka one was 100% a foul.
Tbf you have a point on the Mount one I think.
I didn't think that was a foul. :whistle:
The Kane one looked outside the box, it was marginal though.
Mount didn't have control of the ball and it wasn't a clear goal-scoring opportunity, so no red.
Maybe not a foul in Aussie Rules but certainly one in football
Surely a second yellow though as it was a definite barge / foul and bad enough to give a penalty
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Nobody talking about how Southgate’s absolutely useless strategies cost us dear again ?
Mount and Sterling on with
ELEVEN minutes to go and only after going down 2:1 !!!
Sterling replaces our main ( only ) threat in Saka who was having a field day … don’t think Sterling even had a touch of the ball !!
Rashford came on in the 85th minute !!!
Grealish came on with TWO minutes of extra time remaining …
We equalised in the 54th minute and were on top and that was the time to make 3 or 4 substitutions given our bench was stacked with quality options and they had basically NOBODY to bring on .
He could even have really gone for it and brought on 5 fresh pairs of legs as you get a 6th sub in extra time
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Calderyon
12-12-2022, 11:50 AM
But if the Referee could spot obvious fouls it's 1-1 (even with Kane's miss) so it goes to extra time.
So the result is the Referee's fault.
Agree to disagree. He is partly to blame, but not entirely or mostly.
Mystic Mock
12-12-2022, 05:21 PM
Agree to disagree. He is partly to blame, but not entirely or mostly.
Tbf calmly thinking about it, it was both the Referee and Kane's fault.
They both played a massive part in the result.
Calderyon
12-12-2022, 05:31 PM
Tbf calmly thinking about it, it was both the Referee and Kane's fault.
They both played a massive part in the result.
I can agree with that.
Mystic Mock
14-12-2022, 08:05 PM
Morocco's done well, but they've beaten teams that England and France would eat for breakfast at the moment.
It looks like I was correct.:smug:
I'm gonna be smug for awhile.:joker:
But seriously it's up to Argentina to prove me wrong.
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