Simon Bird: ‘The Inbetweeners wouldn’t be made today’

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/tv/2023/01/04/TELEMMGLPICT000001194381_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqrpfQw2h JyG_yckwxPAr0gmyy-GsNrhPQbLesooHneHs.jpeg?imwidth=960

Wokery at work

On The Inbetweeners, he is less equivocal. “I honestly think it wouldn’t be
commissioned today,” he says. Because of the sexism? “Yeah, and the casual
homophobia,” he adds. “I rationalise it to myself by saying that at the time it
was an accurate representation of the way teenagers talk to each other. Is that
still the case now? I assume not. Although the programme was set in the
2000s, it was based on a pilot set in 1990, so even in the 2000s it wasn’t really
an accurate reflection of how teenagers spoke.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/simon-bird-inbetweeners-wouldnt-made-today/

4 white straight males with white families and a white teacher?

get it cancelled:nono:

[The Slim Reaper]

Pretending to cancel things that haven't been cancelled.

https://media.tenor.com/9z2gfM1boe0AAAAC/dwayne-wade-i-love-it.gif

:laugh2:

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone interested in catching it before it gets properly cancelled, can watch it here

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-inbetweeners

Channel 4's very own player. You may have to cancel your adblocker to watch it, but that's the price you pay for woke apps, I guess :shrug:

[Liam-]

It’s like 30p Lee tweeting that Les Dawson wouldn’t be allowed on tv these days, while watching a Les Dawson special show on tv

[bots]

there is a difference between something being cancelled that already exists and not making similar again in current times. Just thought i would point that out :smug:

[Alf]

Alf Garnett is a regular on my television.

[user104658]

Bit of a leap - he's right about the reason it wouldn't be made... it's not because of it being "so controversial", it's because if you're making a comedy about teenagers it has to reflect the teenagers of the era. Teens when I was a teen were very much like The Inbetweeners. Teens these days are not. That's not how they speak, not how they interact, not what their social circles are like... it isn't relevant. It's still funny to those of us who remember being (or knowing) that sort of teen, but it's not relevant to the teen or young adult audience itself.

They wouldn't make "Friends" today either... because 20-somethings have smartphones, use dating apps, and them living in nice big apartments in Manhattan is even more ludicrous than it was in the 90's.

Although the 90's is starting to come back in nostalgia form much like the 80's - so I guess the 2000's (inbetweeners) will have it's time again one day, probably in the 2030's.

It's not "cos they talk about girls and wanking". It's parody/satire, we're laughing AT their naive teenage boy attitudes (because we remember being them, or knowing people like them), they're not meant to be aspirational characters :joker:.

[user104658]

I'd also add that if one of them was non-white or if the teacher was black but played the exact same, it would be exactly the same show, so long as there was no awkward Netflix-style shoe horning.

That said I doubt anyone could play the teacher quite the same as Greg Davies, but that's really unrelated.

[user104658]

Anyone interested in catching it before it gets properly cancelled, can watch it here

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-inbetweeners

Channel 4's very own player. You may have to cancel your adblocker to watch it, but that's the price you pay for woke apps, I guess :shrug:

Not only that but it's regularly shown on 4's broadcast channels. If it was true that they "absolutely wouldn't make it now" because of the content rather than the relevance, they wouldn't still be airing it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

[Alf]

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.XY3-D4R8Oxc

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd also add that if one of them was non-white or if the teacher was black but played the exact same, it would be exactly the same show, so long as there was no awkward Netflix-style shoe horning.

That said I doubt anyone could play the teacher quite the same as Greg Davies, but that's really unrelated.

Greg Davies actually taught at the school they used for the series

[Niamh.]

Greg Davies is hilarious

[arista]

Alf Garnett is a regular on my television.


Why have you removed the good photo
you had?

[arista]

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.


It Failed

[arista]

Greg Davies is hilarious

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Greg_Davies_2011.jpg

[Niamh.]

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.Oh god, it's awful, cringey, but not in the way it's supposed to be

[Swan]

Simon is right though, it wouldn't be commissioned today at all. Then again, neither would Friends, and that's
still hugely popular.

[user104658]

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

Genuinely awful and I'll watch pretty much anything... I didn't make it through more than one episode.

I actually think it illustrates exactly why they wouldn't make it now though - it was so culturally specific to time and place that it didn't work with American teens, in the same way it wouldn't work with 2023 teens.

[Swan]

Genuinely awful and I'll watch pretty much anything... I didn't make it through more than one episode.

I actually think it illustrates exactly why they wouldn't make it now though - it was so culturally specific to time and place that it didn't work with American teens, in the same way it wouldn't work with 2023 teens.

1HBpNgW6s98

You wouldn't watch this. Its been and gone, quickly, it was the worst tv show ever created

[James]

Inbetweeners is one of my favourites. When I saw this headline I looked up the cast and found the Simon and Will actors are 39 and 38 years old now. [emoji50]

I also watched the dance scene from the first movie - never fails to make me laugh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Inbetweeners is one of my favourites. When I saw this headline I looked up the cast and found the Simon and Will actors are 39 and 38 years old now. [emoji50]

I also watched the dance scene from the first movie - never fails to make me laugh.

I dont know how many Americans iv watched reacting to that show

Id imagine at lest 5/6 going thru every episode

[Gusto Brunt]

I always found that show rather silly. Weren't the characters supposed to be 15/16, yet the actors were in their 30s and looked it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I always found that show rather silly. Weren't the characters supposed to be 15/16, yet the actors were in their 30s and looked it.

No

they were early 20s when they played the parts

Jay/James for example was 21

[Calderyon]

Great series.

Wish it was still on.

[James]

I always found that show rather silly. Weren't the characters supposed to be 15/16, yet the actors were in their 30s and looked it.That is quite common in films and TV shows. The best example I can think of is Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off being played by an actor who was about 30.

[MTVN]

Its a brilliant show but it is of its time. The Inbetweeners came up with a couple of my colleagues recently who are early 20s and they'd never seen an episode. At first that appalled me because it had such cult status amongst me and my friends but then I thought a big part of that was because we were the same age as the characters when it came out.

I don't know if today's teenagers would find it as funny or not but certainly a lot of the jokes wouldn't make the cut now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a brilliant show but it is of its time. The Inbetweeners came up with a couple of my colleagues recently who are early 20s and they'd never seen an episode. At first that appalled me because it had such cult status amongst me and my friends but then I thought a big part of that was because we were the same age as the characters when it came out.

I don't know if today's teenagers would find it as funny or not but certainly a lot of the jokes wouldn't make the cut now

Smallest boy LT loves it as does his pals - it has cult status among his peers

[bots]

some of the jokes are timeless though, and a lot of it was very visual. For example when one of them went round to a girls house for a date and he barfed over her little brother :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

some of the jokes are timeless though, and a lot of it was very visual. For example when one of them went round to a girls house for a date and he barfed over her little brother :laugh:

Here's a mind-blowing factoid for you though; a lot of teens these days (middle class ones especially) don't drink, or at least, don't drink to excess.

I was baffled by this, when I was in my teens circa 2000 it was very unusual for anyone aged 15+ not to be drunk at some house party or other most weekends.

So... A lot of them actually wouldn't find Simon's drunken babysitting relatable at all and would think he was extremely weird for it.

[Swan]

Season 2 is by far my favourite out of the 3. The trip to Swanage, work experience, Duke of Edinburgh awards, the exams and Will sh!tting himself :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Pretending to cancel things that haven't been cancelled.

https://media.tenor.com/9z2gfM1boe0AAAAC/dwayne-wade-i-love-it.gif

:laugh2:

Tbh Slim
We all know alot of the jokes in 'The Inbetweeners ' would not be accepted today,the fact that comedians like Dave Chapelle & Ricky Gervais are getting complaints ...says it all .

I don't think there's anything wrong with stating facts , just like 'Little Britain' ( which I was never a fan of) would also not be allowed today.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf a lot of popular Shows would either not get made today because of their content, or they would be made for a "modern audience" where in this particular case the Comedy wouldn't exist, and it'd be a Teen Drama instead.

[The Slim Reaper]

Tbh Slim
We all know alot of the jokes in 'The Inbetweeners ' would not be accepted today,the fact that comedians like Dave Chapelle & Ricky Gervais are getting complaints ...says it all .

I don't think there's anything wrong with stating facts , just like 'Little Britain' ( which I was never a fan of) would also not be allowed today.

Ricky gervais and Dave chappelle have based their new acts around attacking the trans community, but neither of them have been cancelled, both are multi, multi, multi-millionaires, and both could phone any network or venue tomorrow and get a show right away.

You think racist comics would be allowed to do their acts without comment today? Or do you think homophobic comics shouldn't receive pushback? The obsession with a minority community trying to live their lives is just really bizarre, frankly.

[GoldHeart]

Ricky gervais and Dave chappelle have based their new acts around attacking the trans community, but neither of them have been cancelled, both are multi, multi, multi-millionaires, and both could phone any network or venue tomorrow and get a show right away.

You think racist comics would be allowed to do their acts without comment today? Or do you think homophobic comics shouldn't receive pushback? The obsession with a minority community trying to live their lives is just really bizarre, frankly.

Do you actually know anything about Dave Chapelle ?? , he had a trans friend who he even dedicated his comedy show to . She committed suicide .....and shock horror guess which community contributed to her death ?? , A group of angry trans activists who send her a ton of hate . Yet these same people preach about peace & acceptance :umm2::facepalm:.

Chapelle & Gervais challenge things others are to scared to say , neither of them hate trans people. But they're fed up with how far left things have gotten ,I know Gervais especially highlighted that .

And Chapelle from what I heard asked his friend about her transition so he could try to understand why she felt that way , which is exactly what more is needed ... education is important & respectful discussions instead of name calling.

As for 'racist' or 'sexist' comics , if a comedian is just insulting people then no it's not funny. But people should actually watch things before they call everyone offensive . A joke has to either make sense or be witty & clever & even fun satire. Not just mean remarks :shrug:.

Frankie Boyle made a grotesque joke about Katie Price's son Harvey,but it's interesting how he never faced reprocussions for it . So much double standards & hypocrisy as usual. And I've never found Boyle funny.

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you actually know anything about Dave Chapelle ?? , he had a trans friend who he even dedicated his comedy show to . She committed suicide .....and shock horror guess which community contributed to her death ?? , A group of angry trans activists who send her a ton of hate . Yet these same people preach about peace & acceptance :umm2::facepalm:.

Chapelle & Gervais challenge things others are to scared to say , neither of them hate trans people. But they're fed up with how far left things have gotten ,I know Gervais especially highlighted that .

And Chapelle from what I heard asked his friend about her transition so he could try to understand why she felt that way , which is exactly what more is needed ... education is important & respectful discussions instead of name calling.

As for 'racist' or 'sexist' comics , if a comedian is just insulting people then no it's not funny. But people should actually watch things before they call everyone offensive . A joke has to either make sense or be witty & clever & even fun satire. Not just mean remarks :shrug:.

Frankie Boyle made a grotesque joke about Katie Price's son Harvey,but it's interesting how he never faced reprocussions for it . So much double standards & hypocrisy as usual. And I've never found Boyle funny.

You start off by admitting it's just what you've heard and nothing that you've read or seen for yourself or that you've backed up with anything concrete? Do you understand the issue here?

Then you move to the trans community attacking a trans person causing them to commit suicide? I'm not sure there is a lot of sense in that statement. Not saying you're wrong, but I'd need to see the full facts, not the anti-trans slant.

So Frankie Boyle - the pretend leftist. Always around when there is a cause to promote but never an ally when a true leftist had the opportunity to be elected. Did you want him to face repercussions or not, because that kind of thing would make me think that the top tax rate for the top 1% should be lowered to allow their wealth to trickle down. Is that how it works again, I'm not sure? :smug:

Once again, goldheart, you are conflating things you don't like - trans people/anyone who shows them support, with the left. It's weird, wrong, but on brand for this crazy forum.

I liked Ricky Gervais' earlier work. The office is the greatest sitcom of all time in my view, but if you think standing on a stage going "woman, penis, woman, penis, woman, penis", is in anyway speaking truth to power (go and watch Carlin and Hicks then come back to me), or challenging, then you're simply wrong. I'm guessing it's more of a mumsnet routine than a work by perhaps the most influential comedian of his generation. James Acaster summed the new Gervais style of commentary up perfectly (and I'm no fan of his, either)

adh0KGmgmQw

You seriously think that it's brave to come out and mock the trans community, and that no one has the guts to do it? Mental.
.

He used to understand the differences between punching up or down, even when Brent used to stray into bigotry, he always made himself the butt of the joke, now he's fully invested in punching down. Good for him, he can make his money whichever way he chooses and absolutely none of my business. I just don't understand how some of the wealthiest and consistently performing artis in the last 20 years are being cancelled as they count another £50 million into their bank accounts

[Crimson Dynamo]

James Acaster isnt funny



he belongs in the same awful stable as Adam Hills, Romesh Ranganathan, Josh Widdicombe, Alex Brooker, Eddie Izard, Stuart whotshisface and Nish Kumar

[GoldHeart]

You start off by admitting it's just what you've heard and nothing that you've read or seen for yourself or that you've backed up with anything concrete? Do you understand the issue here?

Then you move to the trans community attacking a trans person causing them to commit suicide? I'm not sure there is a lot of sense in that statement. Not saying you're wrong, but I'd need to see the full facts, not the anti-trans slant.

So Frankie Boyle - the pretend leftist. Always around when there is a cause to promote but never an ally when a true leftist had the opportunity to be elected. Did you want him to face repercussions or not, because that kind of thing would make me think that the top tax rate for the top 1% should be lowered to allow their wealth to trickle down. Is that how it works again, I'm not sure? :smug:

Once again, goldheart, you are conflating things you don't like - trans people/anyone who shows them support, with the left. It's weird, wrong, but on brand for this crazy forum.

I liked Ricky Gervais' earlier work. The office is the greatest sitcom of all time in my view, but if you think standing on a stage going "woman, penis, woman, penis, woman, penis", is in anyway speaking truth to power (go and watch Carlin and Hicks then come back to me), or challenging, then you're simply wrong. I'm guessing it's more of a mumsnet routine than a work by perhaps the most influential comedian of his generation. James Acaster summed the new Gervais style of commentary up perfectly (and I'm no fan of his, either)

adh0KGmgmQw

You seriously think that it's brave to come out and mock the trans community, and that no one has the guts to do it? Mental.
.

He used to understand the differences between punching up or down, even when Brent used to stray into bigotry, he always made himself the butt of the joke, now he's fully invested in punching down. Good for him, he can make his money whichever way he chooses and absolutely none of my business. I just don't understand how some of the wealthiest and consistently performing artis in the last 20 years are being cancelled as they count another £50 million into their bank accounts

Acaster literally shouted the same line over & over again to mock Gervais but wasn't actually funny himself . I'll never understand why Acaster is a comedian, he just comes across obnoxious and loud .

You can twist what I say all you like Slim . And as I said if you don't believe me about Chapelle's trans friend then do the research. She defended Chapelle and she got massive hate for it ,which led to her suicide.

The fact that we live in a world now where people like JK Rowling can't describe what a woman is without recieving abuse & hate , should be enough to tell you how crazy things have got with the
far left wing.

You talk about how wrong it is to belittle and pick on a certain community,but Boyle literally made a tasteless joke about Harvey Price ....a disabled child at the time ,so I don't see how anyone can stoop any lower than that . I know it wasn't recent but it still happened.

[Liam-]

Frankie got a bollocking all over the press and social media when he made that joke about Harvey, let’s not rewrite history to fit your narrative now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Frankie got a bollocking all over the press and social media when he made that joke about Harvey, let’s not rewrite history to fit your narrative now

id imagine it out many many thousands of quids in his sky rocket from show sales

[The Slim Reaper]

Acaster literally shouted the same line over & over again to mock Gervais but wasn't actually funny himself . I'll never understand why Acaster is a comedian, he just comes across obnoxious and loud .

You can twist what I say all you like Slim . And as I said if you don't believe me about Chapelle's trans friend then do the research. She defended Chapelle and she got massive hate for it ,which led to her suicide.

The fact that we live in a world now where people like JK Rowling can't describe what a woman is without recieving abuse & hate , should be enough to tell you how crazy things have got with the
far left wing.

You talk about how wrong it is to belittle and pick on a certain community,but Boyle literally made a tasteless joke about Harvey Price ....a disabled child at the time ,so I don't see how anyone can stoop any lower than that . I know it wasn't recent but it still happened.

You may have misread the boyle part - because it's pretty clear I'm no fan of his either, You can't on one hand cry that non-cancelled comedians have been cancelled, but then on the other cry that a different comedian wasn't cancelled 10/20 years ago? Which is it?

In fact, let me expand upon Boyle, and try and hold a mirror up to link it back to this forum. Did Boyle make a joke about Harvey, or did he use every TV appearance on every TV channel to bring up Harvey?

Lorraine: Good morning Frankie, so you've got a new stand up out at the moment?

FB - Forget that, Lorraine, what about Harvey?

Mock the week - Things you might say on an Aeroplane

FB - thank god I'm not sitting next to Harvey

Jonathan Ross - So Frankie, tell me about your book

FB - What about Jordans little'un?

That's the difference, any opportunity you get, regardless of the thread - DUN DUN DUN -TRANS PEOPLE. it's fcuking beyond weird.

Like I said, if someone has concerns or things they don't understand about the trans community - fair enough, I understand that, but if you're using every single stupid opportunity to bring them into every discussion, trawling mumsnet and facebook, looking for any old transphobic sh1t you can find, then at that point, you've gone well beyond any genuine concern or lack of understanding. That's the approach that white supremacist show towards non-whites, and the same approach that homophobic people take towards gay people. That's where you're at. I've steered away from this nonsense discussion, because to be honest, it fcuking depresses me that people I like and think are genuinely good people, are so blinded by this nonsense, that I just don't want to deal with it, but there just comes a point where enough is enough.

[The Slim Reaper]

James Acaster isnt funny



he belongs in the same awful stable as Adam Hills, Romesh Ranganathan, Josh Widdicombe, Alex Brooker, Eddie Izard, Stuart whotshisface and Nish Kumar

Taken from my post:

(and I'm no fan of his, either)

[GoldHeart]

Taken from my post:

While I'll agree that when a comedian focused on 1 or the same topic it can be tiresome & obsessive. I still don't think it was coming from a bad place with Chapelle & Gervais ,I really don't .

Amy Schumer's special was 99% sex jokes ,and non of them were comedic. But she wouldn't accept that she's just NOT FUNNY.

Yes some jokes are cringey & below the belt ,and I don't find everything Chapelle & Gervais does funny . However I still like some of their work .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Taken from my post:

:thumbs:

[user104658]

My honest thoughts on Chappelle and Gervais' specials... I think Chappelle has a lot to say in his and he does it well. I generally find that people take him too much at face value and miss the larger commentary being made. I don't agree with it word for word but I think it's a great piece of work.

Gervais' special I found lazy and low-hanging fruit. I don't think I admitted that at the time, maybe even to myself. Tribalism eh!

He has previous standup shows that are near-perfect which makes it especially glaring. It felt like an easy paycheque.

[Crimson Dynamo]

My honest thoughts on Chappelle and Gervais' specials... I think Chappelle has a lot to say in his and he does it well. I generally find that people take him too much at face value and miss the larger commentary being made. I don't agree with it word for word but I think it's a great piece of work.

Gervais' special I found lazy and low-hanging fruit. I don't think I admitted that at the time, maybe even to myself. Tribalism eh!

He has previous standup shows that are near-perfect which makes it especially glaring. It felt like an easy paycheque.

Because the I'm a lady numptiescare what

Complex and hard to parody?

[user104658]

Because the I'm a lady numptiescare what

Complex and hard to parody?

I don't understand what you're talking about... "low hanging fruit" would suggest literally the opposite.

For clarity on my position these days... I think a lot of the current trans zeitgeist is flippant about women's very real concerns and a travesty when it comes to child and adolescent mental health. And I think there's a very vocal and determined community that is deliberately putting up barriers to proper study of the various issues that is proving disastrous (for everyone).

But I also accept and recognise - to be blunt - that large part of the trans community are psychologically vulnerable and there are massive undercurrents of trauma and poor overall mental health. I think it's being handled terribly by health services and authorities, just as the associated practicalities are being handled very poorly and women's voices are often being ignored and demonised.

Given all of that - I think ther s a limit to how much parody seems reasonable in lieu of actual compassionate adult conversations about the issues.

Chappelle's felt largely like highlighting the issue, not in a way that everyone will like, but there was nuance to it. Ricky's felt too easy, lacked any new or insightful comment, and thus it felt like... Low hanging fruit. Populism.

[bots]

i think Chappelle's humour is much deeper than many of today's audience are capable of understanding. I'm sure the audience didn't used to be so thick

[GoldHeart]

i think Chappelle's humour is much deeper than many of today's audience are capable of understanding. I'm sure the audience didn't used to be so thick

Also the people complaining about his comedy special,how many of them actually watched it ? .

[user104658]

i think Chappelle's humour is much deeper than many of today's audience are capable of understanding. I'm sure the audience didn't used to be so thick

Agreed, I think he's taken at face value when what he's getting at is rarely that.

That comes with pitfalls from both sides; one that will think he's just being hateful and hate him from it, and another that will think he's just being hateful and celebrate him for it. Chappelle to his credit hasn't gone down the route of leaning into and actively pandering to those people like some other high profile examples (Jordan Peterson would be exhibit A for me).

[user104658]

Also the people complaining about his comedy special,how many of them actually watched it ? .

This is a problem too of course - too many people making assessments based on 30 second TikTok clips rather than an hour long show in context.

That's a problem with... Pretty much everything at the moment let's face it.

[GoldHeart]

This is a problem too of course - too many people making assessments based on 30 second TikTok clips rather than an hour long show in context.

That's a problem with... Pretty much everything at the moment let's face it.

It happens with youtube title videos aswell , people get outraged ...before actually watching the video they're supposedly upset about :rolleyes:. It's like people automatically wait to be offended now .

[Niamh.]

My honest thoughts on Chappelle and Gervais' specials... I think Chappelle has a lot to say in his and he does it well. I generally find that people take him too much at face value and miss the larger commentary being made. I don't agree with it word for word but I think it's a great piece of work.

Gervais' special I found lazy and low-hanging fruit. I don't think I admitted that at the time, maybe even to myself. Tribalism eh!

He has previous standup shows that are near-perfect which makes it especially glaring. It felt like an easy paycheque.

The thing about Gervais special was the stuff he was saying was all things that TRA's on Social Media say, the "HER PENIS" stuff etc.

I like Ricky Gervais and find him funny, not every one of his jokes, some are too far (for me) but surely that's always going to be the case with comedy, we all have the power to switch it off if we're not enjoying it anymore :shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

You can twist what I say all you like Slim . And as I said if you don't believe me about Chapelle's trans friend then do the research. She defended Chapelle and she got massive hate for it ,which led to her suicide.



So then, I turned into Qanon Alf - and did my own research :smug: I looked through a few different articles and stuff about this, and I found this link to have actually researched and looked at the actual facts/data of the whole event.

I'm not saying this is the absolute definitive way this played out, and if you find information that completely disproves what this person says, then I'm open to reading that, too.

Normally I would post the article into the site for everyone to read, but with this particular blog, there are tweets and pics that would need to be transferred over, and no way I'm doing that, so unfortunately it's just a link.

https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p/dave-chappelles-some-of-my-best-friends

In the interests of good faith, I'm going to make a concession, not particularly about this story, but a general one. I've always been a skeptic when it came to twitter mobs and their existence, but I'm pretty confident in saying that they are a very real and frightening thing for many people, and just because I don't see them, it doesn't mean they don't exist. As an extremely wise man once wrote - we all have blind spots :smug:

[user104658]

It happens with youtube title videos aswell , people get outraged ...before actually watching the video they're supposedly upset about :rolleyes:. It's like people automatically wait to be offended now .

For the last couple of years the YouTube comment section has been best ignored entirely, it's a complete dumpster fire ... I think half of the comments are bots as well (again, AI robots ... not the TiBB member, he doesn't have time).

[Niamh.]

For the last couple of years the YouTube comment section has been best ignored entirely, it's a complete dumpster fire ... I think half of the comments are bots as well (again, AI robots ... not the TiBB member, he doesn't have time).

Youtube titles have gotten very annoying. I especially hate these ones :

-insert youtuber name- DESTROYS feminist/Woke Student etc etc
Customer is rude to waitress and you won't BELIEVE what happens next

[bots]

i've seen death threats made to content owners on youtube, and not on subjects that anyone could find offensive in any way. That doesn't strike me as normal

[user104658]

The thing about Gervais special was the stuff he was saying was all things that TRA's on Social Media say, the "HER PENIS" stuff etc.

I like Ricky Gervais and find him funny, not every one of his jokes, some are too far (for me) but surely that's always going to be the case with comedy, we all have the power to switch it off if we're not enjoying it anymore :shrug:

It's not that all of the commentary was bad, I think the one you mention was especially apt, pointing out the inherent irony of that line of ... resistence? "Stop saying offensive things you TERF wh ore!!" etc. ... you see this sort of thing on Twitter constantly.

It's something that's plagued TiBB from time to time as well. But doesn't it just unfortunately sum up the impasse of social media discourse in general. "Stop saying things that I find offensive, you disgusting piece of ****!"

[Niamh.]

It's not that all of the commentary was bad, I think the one you mention was especially apt, pointing out the inherent irony of that line of ... resistence? "Stop saying offensive things you TERF wh ore!!" etc. ... you see this sort of thing on Twitter constantly.

It's something that's plagued TiBB from time to time as well. But doesn't it just unfortunately sum up the impasse of social media discourse in general. "Stop saying things that I find offensive, you disgusting piece of ****!"

Yeah, absolutely spot on. It feels a bit like we're all losing the ability to communicate properly (and constructively) with each other. It's sad to see

[user104658]

i've seen death threats made to content owners on youtube, and not on subjects that anyone could find offensive in any way. That doesn't strike me as normal

My wife's had a threat of violence or two over peer-reviewed research that's been through multiple layers of University ethics :joker:. People are wonderful creatures.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah, absolutely spot on. It feels a bit like we're all losing the ability to communicate properly (and constructively) with each other. It's sad to see

Unfortunately now it's just insults thrown at people rather than discussion. JK Rowling is proof of that ,the food of hate she got ....was like a unhealthy cult.

[GoldHeart]

So then, I turned into Qanon Alf - and did my own research :smug: I looked through a few different articles and stuff about this, and I found this link to have actually researched and looked at the actual facts/data of the whole event.

I'm not saying this is the absolute definitive way this played out, and if you find information that completely disproves what this person says, then I'm open to reading that, too.

Normally I would post the article into the site for everyone to read, but with this particular blog, there are tweets and pics that would need to be transferred over, and no way I'm doing that, so unfortunately it's just a link.

https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p/dave-chappelles-some-of-my-best-friends

In the interests of good faith, I'm going to make a concession, not particularly about this story, but a general one. I've always been a skeptic when it came to twitter mobs and their existence, but I'm pretty confident in saying that they are a very real and frightening thing for many people, and just because I don't see them, it doesn't mean they don't exist. As an extremely wise man once wrote - we all have blind spots :smug:

I know this has nothing to do with your sig,but why are you still using it when a moderator told you the twitter account is 'fake' . Oh the irony of you not wanting misinformation out there .

Chapelle's friend Daphne , possibly had other mental health issues. But the point is getting a wave of hate .... Would not have helped . Especially if she was struggling already :shrug: .

You can talk blind spots and this and that ,but we all know how these mobs work ... it's like a cult following .

[Beso]

I'd also add that if one of them was non-white or if the teacher was black but played the exact same, it would be exactly the same show, so long as there was no awkward Netflix-style shoe horning.

That said I doubt anyone could play the teacher quite the same as Greg Davies, but that's really unrelated.



Lenny would pull it off.

[Beso]

The only thing that needs cancelling is the internet.

[The Slim Reaper]

I know this has nothing to do with your sig,but why are you still using it when a moderator told you the twitter account is 'fake' . Oh the irony of you not wanting misinformation out there .

Chapelle's friend Daphne , possibly had other mental health issues. But the point is getting a wave of hate .... Would not have helped . Especially if she was struggling already :shrug: .

You can talk blind spots and this and that ,but we all know how these mobs work ... it's like a cult following .

You're wrong about the sig, but I'm sure Niamh will appreciate your concern.


The blog researches the hate, and found out that she received only a few comments at all, and they were mainly positive, so there was, based on the evidence, absolutely no mob at all.

[GoldHeart]

You're wrong about the sig, but I'm sure Niamh will appreciate your concern.


The blog researches the hate, and found out that she received only a few comments at all, and they were mainly positive, so there was, based on the evidence, absolutely no mob at all.

How can you say 'no mob at all ' , when you know what a cess pit twitter and other social media platforms can be .

[The Slim Reaper]

How can you say 'no mob at all ' , when you know what a cess pit twitter and other social media platforms can be .

You have access to the same blog that I used - did you not read it?

The guy trawled through her Sm pages and most of her comments were positive, he even checked her page on redditt, and the comments there were also mostly positive.

Her lifelong friends said that she was struggling with serious mental health issues and had recently had a child removed from them. It's a tragic story, but I think that DC may have (I'm being kind) overplayed the abuse, but like I say, and I mean this, if you find something to counter that, that shows this guy was the biased one who lied, then I'm open to looking at the facts.

[Oliver_W]

Inbetweeners is one of my favourites. When I saw this headline I looked up the cast and found the Simon and Will actors are 39 and 38 years old now. [emoji50]


I saw an advert for something or other on C4, it took ages to work out who the elderly man was :joker:

[Alf]

Has anyone seen the sitcom "White Gold" which has both Joe Thomas and James Buckley in it? It also has Rachel Shenton in it who played Mitzeee in Hollyoaks.

I just want to know if anyone watched it and is it worth watching?

[user104658]

Has anyone seen the sitcom "White Gold" which has both Joe Thomas and James Buckley in it? It also has Rachel Shenton in it who played Mitzeee in Hollyoaks.

I just want to know if anyone watched it and is it worth watching?

Its watchable but nit that funny. The first season anyway, I didn't continue with it. Simon and Jay are literally just Simon and Jay selling double glazing. Exactly the same characters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its watchable but nit that funny. The first season anyway, I didn't continue with it. Simon and Jay are literally just Simon and Jay selling double glazing. Exactly the same characters.

yes and its worth watching

its not golden but its better than a lot of sh1t

[Alf]

I'll give it a try then. As a connoisseur of the British sitcom, I'm desperate for something new that is watchable. It's extremely rare to find one these days.

[The Slim Reaper]

I'll give it a try then. As a connoisseur of the British sitcom, I'm desperate for something new that is watchable. It's extremely rare to find one these days.

Not British, but did you ever watch parks and rec? Seems like something that you wouldn't have wanted to watch, but you should give it a try if you didn't.

[Alf]

Not British, but did you ever watch parks and rec? Seems like something that you wouldn't have wanted to watch, but you should give it a try if you didn't.It has a good rating of 8.6 on Imdb. But for some reason I just can't do American sitcoms. I could when I was younger. I grew up watching The Munsters, The Golden Girls and Married with children and others. But having delved into the Golden age of British sitcoms, the American stuff just doesn't do it for me now, infact I stopped trying years ago.

[Zizu]

It has a good rating of 8.6 on Imdb. But for some reason I just can't do American sitcoms. I could when I was younger. I grew up watching The Munsters, The Golden Girls and Married with children and others. But having delved into the Golden age of British sitcoms, the American stuff just doesn't do it for me now, infact I stopped trying years ago.


Interesting
I’m exactly the opposite.. only US sitcoms make me giggle . British ones apart from maybe The Plebs and a couple of others leave me cold ..


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[user104658]

I'll give it a try then. As a connoisseur of the British sitcom, I'm desperate for something new that is watchable. It's extremely rare to find one these days.

One thing I will say for it - it was actually interesting to "learn" about the early 80's "double glazing gold rush". You don't hear much about the classic double glazing salesman these days.

[The Slim Reaper]

It has a good rating of 8.6 on Imdb. But for some reason I just can't do American sitcoms. I could when I was younger. I grew up watching The Munsters, The Golden Girls and Married with children and others. But having delved into the Golden age of British sitcoms, the American stuff just doesn't do it for me now, infact I stopped trying years ago.

That's a shame as you miss out on a lot of good shows - if you do decide to dip your toe into the water then def give PnR a chance.

Have you seen all the coogan Paul calf video diaries?

[Alf]

That's a shame as you miss out on a lot of good shows - if you do decide to dip your toe into the water then def give PnR a chance.

Have you seen all the coogan Paul calf video diaries?Yeah seen all the Calf stuff. Pretty much seen all Coogan's stuff although I didn't get through his latest Alan Partridge program where he's hosting a show like "The one show" I didn't enjoy that much, it just wasn't up to Alan Partridge standard. Probably due to the fact that Armando Ianucci wasn't involved.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yeah seen all the Calf stuff. Pretty much seen all Coogan's stuff although I didn't get through his latest Alan Partridge program where he's hosting a show like "The one show" I didn't enjoy that much, it just wasn't up to Alan Partridge standard. Probably due to the fact that Armando Ianucci wasn't involved.

I've got a great show for you - it's called warrior

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It's set in the US as the chinese were flocking there to wbuild the railways. Based on stories written by Bruce Lee and is a bit like peaky blinders. 2 full seasons, and currently making the third.

I meant to make a thread about it ages ago but never got round to it.

It's difficult to find, but I can link you to a site. I'm not sure about posting illegal tv links on the forum so if you decide you want to give it a go, drop me a pm and i'll hook you up.

[Mystic Mock]

i've seen death threats made to content owners on youtube, and not on subjects that anyone could find offensive in any way. That doesn't strike me as normal

There's normally two types of people that make death threats towards Youtubers.

1. 12 year olds
2. Psychopaths

[GoldHeart]

There's normally two types of people that make death threats towards Youtubers.

1. 12 year olds
2. Psychopaths

That pretty much sums of the youtube algorithm of cesspool swamp.

[Mystic Mock]

That pretty much sums of the youtube algorithm of cesspool swamp.

You're probably right.:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

You're probably right.:laugh:

Just the other day i got an angry reply , to a comment i made months ago lol .