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Uefa is to change its Financial Fair Play rules in response to Chelsea's recent trend of signing players on long-term contracts.
Signing players on extended contracts enables Chelsea to spread the player's transfer fee over the life of that deal when submitting their annual accounts.
That means £89m signing Mykhailo Mudryk will be valued at £11m a year over his eight-and-a-half-year deal.
Uefa is to set a five-year limit over which a transfer fee can be spread.
Clubs will still be able to offer longer deals under UK regulations but will not be able to stretch transfer fees beyond the first five years.
The change to FFP rules will come into force during the summer and will not apply retrospectively.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64383217
i don't think PSG have done 8 year contracts, thats Chelsea and Barcelona :nono:
Crimson Dynamo
24-01-2023, 02:07 PM
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1 week ban for Swan please and his awful cheating team
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1 week ban for Swan please and his awful cheating team
After spending all that, and the awful way in which we're playing, i think that's punishment enough :hmph:
Crimson Dynamo
24-01-2023, 02:16 PM
After spending all that, and the awful way in which we're playing, i think that's punishment enough :hmph:
:joker:
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 04:02 PM
About time. What they're doing is ridiculous.
I heard a Chelsea fan on Talk sport saying he wants his Chelsea, currently tenth, back. Before Abramovich came along with his filthy stinking blood money tenth was a good finish for Chelsea. Looks like they have got their Chelsea back.
If they finish above fifth or above I'll be surprised.
About time. What they're doing is ridiculous.
I heard a Chelsea fan on Talk sport saying he wants his Chelsea, currently tenth, back. Before Abramovich came along with his filthy stinking blood money tenth was a good finish for Chelsea. Looks like they have got their Chelsea back.
If they finish above fifth or above I'll be surprised.
That's utter bollocks by the way.
96/97 - 6th
97/98 - 4th
98/99 - 3rd
99/00 - 5th
00/01 - 6th
01/02 - 6th
02/03 - 4th
We were consistently fighting for top 4 7 years before Roman
Nicky91
24-01-2023, 04:16 PM
:clap1: :clap1:
more teams be like Fortuna Sittard and looking for cheaper alternatives, our scouting department is quite decent, looking for cheap players but still talents with U21 or U19 international experience
it was the chairman that went to leeds that was the asshole. He sold to Harding? who was well liked, but died in a helicopter crash if i remember correctly
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 04:25 PM
That's utter bollocks by the way.
96/97 - 6th
97/98 - 4th
98/99 - 3rd
99/00 - 5th
00/01 - 6th
01/02 - 6th
02/03 - 4th
We were consistently fighting for top 4 7 years before Roman:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
And you got it only three times out of the seven
Yeah Ken Bates. Mathew Harding was adored, and yeah he died in a Helicopter crash.
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 04:32 PM
Its disgraceful what they're doing cuz its so blatant.
Usually a deal like Murdyk would be over say three years at 90 mill that's 30 mil a year. By brokering a deal over 10 years its cut to 9 mil a year. Did they think anyone was not gonna spot it.
IF they were subtle I might've given them a bit more respect but very happy the loophole is being closed
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 04:35 PM
Its disgraceful what they're doing cuz its so blatant.
Usually a deal like Murdyk would be over say three years at 90 mill that's 30 mil a year. By brokering a deal over 10 years its cut to 9 mil a year. Did they think anyone was not gonna spot it.
IF they were subtle I might've given them a bit more respect but very happy the loophole is being closed
They were going into administration if they hadn't got Roman.
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 04:38 PM
They were going into administration if they hadn't got Roman.
True but its his blood money that made them what they are.
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 04:39 PM
True but its his blood money that made them what they are.
Agreed.
True but its his blood money that made them what they are.
Hang a min, look all the other clubs involved in dodgy money. Look at the Arab money in football fgs.
Agreed.
Slim, only a few weeks ago you were happy to have blood money purchase Liverpool if it were to change their current piss poor performances too, don't throw stones and all that.
Also like how City, who were much worse than Chelsea before they got brought by Saudis, never get half the sh!t Chelsea do!
You think their billions are legit and fair in a part of the world where regular people are lucky to eat daily?!
Mystic Mock
24-01-2023, 04:49 PM
Also like how City, who were much worse than Chelsea before they got brought by Saudis, never get half the sh!t Chelsea do!
You think their billions are legit and fair in a part of the world where regular people are lucky to eat daily?!
I remember before Man City got these current owners the season where they finished 5-6 places below us.:joker:
But tbf to them, to have a chance at winning the League these days you do need mega rich owners.
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 04:54 PM
Slim, only a few weeks ago you were happy to have blood money purchase Liverpool if it were to change their current piss poor performances too, don't throw stones and all that.
Eh? Liverpool built themselves up to where they are, we didn't get there from a stimulus package as we were about to go out of business due to not being able to pay the bills. The 2 clubs are not the same.
Even our recent title was won on a budget.
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 05:04 PM
That's what I actually wrote. You must know I hate united more than any other team, but I'd still rather go back to pre-Roman days of united dominating with their money, because they earned every penny of it.
I'd rather go back to man u being the most dominant financial team in the league, and us being 2nd/3rd, because at least then you have a chance. But these oil money teams are just on a different level. City don't sell out their ground at times and still rake in more sponsorship money than anyone else because of their honest guv, it's all above board sponsorship deals.
What Klopp has done these last 6 years is perhaps the most historic run in league history. Won every trophy in the game, 3 year run of 97/99 points, and all on a smaller budget than Brighton, but none of that would have happened without Barca injecting 142m into the team for Coutinho. Chelsea have spent more in 6 months than we have in the last 10 transfer windows combined, and they were going into administration before Roman came in, so if you want to compete at the top of the league, this is what you have to have behind you these days, and that's depressing.
I saw this coming a mile off and pointed out in 19 that this was all built on sand. I don't think we'll end up with oil money anyway. I wouldn't put it past FSG to screw us over with more Americans. If there is any chance in the world that LFC can screw this up, they absolutely will. Had the chance to get Dubai in 05/06 - which is the most sanitised version of mid east money possible (tourism), but we backed out and sold to owners who nearly put us into admin.
Eh? Liverpool built themselves up to where they are, we didn't get there from a stimulus package as we were about to go out of business due to not being able to pay the bills. The 2 clubs are not the same.
Even our recent title was won on a budget.
Point is, you were saying only the other day you didn't care who owned Liverpool as long as they pumped money into the club..
"half times beheadings in the centre circle" (i know you wasn't serious, but you must get my point)
And the game has changed since then, it's more a money business now than ever.
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 05:59 PM
Point is, you were saying only the other day you didn't care who owned Liverpool as long as they pumped money into the club..
"half times beheadings in the centre circle" (i know you wasn't serious, but you must get my point)
And the game has changed since then, it's more a money business now than ever.
Come on, dude, you used a joke I made, knowing it was a joke. You can tell my serious opinion in the post above. Football is the way it is today because of Roman. Maybe if he didn't buy chelsea, a couple of years later, some other billionaire would have pumped money into a club and then football would have been the way it is because of him, instead. I know we're all protective of our clubs, but you have to be realistic. He was the first, so he gets the blame. It's not a personal vendetta against Chelsea.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
And you got it only three times out of the seven
Doesn't change the fact you're completely wrong about Chelsea being a team finishing in 10th before Roman.
The "Italian Connection" changed Chelsea's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.
Know your facts before talking utter sh!te and being wrong next time..
Come on, dude, you used a joke I made, knowing it was a joke. You can tell my serious opinion in the post above. Football is the way it is today because of Roman. Maybe if he didn't buy chelsea, a couple of years later, some other billionaire would have pumped money into a club and then football would have been the way it is because of him, instead. I know we're all protective of our clubs, but you have to be realistic. He was the first, so he gets the blame. It's not a personal vendetta against Chelsea.
Things change, that's life, that's business. And no club, barring the odd one off season, were ever going to challenge Utd or Arsenal, or even Liverpool when it came to overseas money back then. Big money for "lesser" teams, teams almost but not quite there was actually a good thing for football imo. And also, Chelsea didn't actually change their team that much in Roman's first season. The foundation was already built before Roman and Jose.
I just think it's bollocks how everyone gets on their moral high horse when it comes to Chelsea.
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 07:15 PM
Doesn't change the fact you're completely wrong about Chelsea being a team finishing in 10th before Roman.
The "Italian Connection" changed Chelsea's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.
Know your facts before talking utter sh!te and being wrong next time..
Things change, that's life, that's business. And no club, barring the odd one off season, were ever going to challenge Utd or Arsenal, or even Liverpool when it came to overseas money back then. Big money for "lesser" teams, teams almost but not quite there was actually a good thing for football imo. And also, Chelsea didn't actually change their team that much in Roman's first season. The foundation was already built before Roman and Jose.
I just think it's bollocks how everyone gets on their moral high horse when it comes to Chelsea.
It's not Chelsea, it's roman. That was my point about no one challenging united - they earned all of that right, they were marketing geniuses as soon as they started winning, they had sponsors on everything. and were raking it in. That's how a successful businesses should be. I'd hate to see united on 30 league titles and 10 CL's but they earned it, they didn't take shortcuts.
Chelsea spent £150m in his first transfer window, back in 03/04, so no need to rewrite history :laugh:
It's not Chelsea, it's roman. That was my point about no one challenging united - they earned all of that right, they were marketing geniuses as soon as they started winning, they had sponsors on everything. and were raking it in. That's how a successful businesses should be. I'd hate to see united on 30 league titles and 10 CL's but they earned it, they didn't take shortcuts.
Chelsea spent £150m in his first transfer window, back in 03/04, so no need to rewrite history :laugh:
So you're saying the league is worse off now, because of all the money being spent, and teams that couldn't dream of challenging Utd, are now, and have dethroned them?
Also, no one wants to acknowledge that massively inflated prices Chelsea payed for players, if, before Roman, we approached, we'd have paid half the amount.
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 07:36 PM
So you're saying the league is worse off now, because of all the money being spent, and teams that couldn't dream of challenging Utd, are now, and have dethroned them?
Also, no one wants to acknowledge that massively inflated prices Chelsea payed for players, if, before Roman, we approached, we'd have paid half the amount.
Not just the league, but football is worse off. i'll even concede that if it was just Roman it would be manageable, but now we have your mob spending half a bill this window (if they get enzo), Newcastle will be guaranteed top 2 in 5 years, city will be top 2 forever, and then what happens? United can spend with them, but your lot won't be able to sustain this.
If Liverpool got Qatari owners and won 10 leagues on the trot, I'd obviously enjoy it, but it wouldn't improve the sport, and I'd more than likely have stopped watching. Football shouldn't be about owners - it should be about clubs, managers, and players.
I don't begrudge you what happened at Chelsea, because I'm self aware enough to know that if our clubs were reversed, I'd be laughing about the tears, too, but just trying to give an honest view on what's happened over the last 20 years, and going forward.
Not just the league, but football is worse off. i'll even concede that if it was just Roman it would be manageable, but now we have your mob spending half a bill this window (if they get enzo), Newcastle will be guaranteed top 2 in 5 years, city will be top 2 forever, and then what happens? United can spend with them, but your lot won't be able to sustain this.
If Liverpool got Qatari owners and won 10 leagues on the trot, I'd obviously enjoy it, but it wouldn't improve the sport, and I'd more than likely have stopped watching. Football shouldn't be about owners - it should be about clubs, managers, and players.
I don't begrudge you what happened at Chelsea, because I'm self aware enough to know that if our clubs were reversed, I'd be laughing about the tears, too, but just trying to give an honest view on what's happened over the last 20 years, and going forward.
Yeah i suppose what you say is fair enough.
I guess teams are becoming more like franchises, like in American sport. The passion will always be there though.
But it's unfair to say Chelsea were sh!t before Roman, yeah he did have us challenging for Leagues, but we were on the brink imo before he arrived. To say Chelsea were going under financially just before Roman might have some truth, but you'll remember as well as anyone, that last game face off for top 4 between Chelsea and Liverpool, which we won. That CL money would have kept us afloat.
6 years before Roman -
3 Top 4 finishes
2 FA Cups
1 League Cup
1 Cup Winners Cup
1 Super Cup
That is not a 10th finishing team. So Girth is completely wrong about Chelsea being sh!t before Roman. We were on the up. That can't be denied. We'll never know of course, but without Roman, i feel Chelsea were only a season or 2 away from challenging for the PL.
If we wanna talk about ACTUAL sh!t teams paying for Trophies, lets all pop over to the blue side of Manchester!
Coincidentally, Everton has just been put up for sale.
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 08:04 PM
Doesn't change the fact you're completely wrong about Chelsea being a team finishing in 10th before Roman.
The "Italian Connection" changed Chelsea's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.
Know your facts before talking utter sh!te and being wrong next time..
You won the premier league/first division one time before the blood money. :shrug:
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 08:06 PM
Before the blood money, you were also rans, you were Aston Villa. Villa went one way and you went the other :thumbs:
The Slim Reaper
24-01-2023, 08:10 PM
Yeah i suppose what you say is fair enough.
I guess teams are becoming more like franchises, like in American sport. The passion will always be there though.
But it's unfair to say Chelsea were sh!t before Roman, yeah he did have us challenging for Leagues, but we were on the brink imo before he arrived. To say Chelsea were going under financially just before Roman might have some truth, but you'll remember as well as anyone, that last game face off for top 4 between Chelsea and Liverpool, which we won. That CL money would have kept us afloat.
6 years before Roman -
3 Top 4 finishes
2 FA Cups
1 League Cup
1 Cup Winners Cup
1 Super Cup
That is not a 10th finishing team. So Girth is completely wrong about Chelsea being sh!t before Roman. We were on the up. That can't be denied. We'll never know of course, but without Roman, i feel Chelsea were only a season or 2 away from challenging for the PL.
If we wanna talk about ACTUAL sh!t teams paying for Trophies, lets all pop over to the blue side of Manchester!
I actually liked your Vialli, Gullit, Zola period, and you were a good team, but all of those players wages, and the hotel bates built had you weeks away from going under like Leeds.
You won the premier league/first division one time before the blood money. :shrug:
Before the blood money, you were also rans, you were Aston Villa. Villa went one way and you went the other :thumbs:
Carry on being wrong :wavey:
You keep trying to make me feel guilty with the "blood money" crap, or trying to make some weird point? Blood is on your hands too with the device you're typing your incorrect rubbish on. So if we want to be petty, we can go there. Like how slaves in sh!thole countries make the phones we use everyday for 4 pence a month. Or the appalling way slaves are used in the Lithium Mines so we can all keep up with useless bollocks on twitter 24/7. Blood is on the hands of all of us.
Get off your moral high horse.
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 08:18 PM
Yeah i suppose what you say is fair enough.
I guess teams are becoming more like franchises, like in American sport. The passion will always be there though.
But it's unfair to say Chelsea were sh!t before Roman, yeah he did have us challenging for Leagues, but we were on the brink imo before he arrived. To say Chelsea were going under financially just before Roman might have some truth, but you'll remember as well as anyone, that last game face off for top 4 between Chelsea and Liverpool, which we won. That CL money would have kept us afloat.
6 years before Roman -
3 Top 4 finishes
2 FA Cups
1 League Cup
1 Cup Winners Cup
1 Super Cup
That is not a 10th finishing team. So Girth is completely wrong about Chelsea being sh!t before Roman. We were on the up. That can't be denied. We'll never know of course, but without Roman, i feel Chelsea were only a season or 2 away from challenging for the PL.
If we wanna talk about ACTUAL sh!t teams paying for Trophies, lets all pop over to the blue side of Manchester!
The ECL was an easier competition to get into back then. Proof being that Arsenal qualified for over 20 years in succession under Arsene Wenger. Well done for making it 3 times in 7 years.:thumbs:
GiRTh
24-01-2023, 08:21 PM
Carry on being wrong :wavey:
You keep trying to make me feel guilty with the "blood money" crap, or trying to make some weird point? Blood is on your hands too with the device you're typing your incorrect rubbish on. So if we want to be petty, we can go there. Like how slaves in sh!thole countries make the phones we use everyday for 4 pence a month. Or the appalling way slaves are used in the Lithium Mines so we can all keep up with useless bollocks on twitter 24/7. Blood is on the hands of all of us.
Get off your moral high horse.
Come again. Bit heavy. Lets keep ti to football and blood money in football
The ECL was an easier competition to get into back then. Proof being that Arsenal qualified for over 20 years in succession under Arsene Wenger. Well done for making it 3 times in 7 years.:thumbs:
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Stay salty :thumbs:
Come again. Bit heavy. Lets keep ti to football and blood money in football
You keep talking about "blood money", well it exists everywhere, im just pointing out the hypocrisy. Blood on the hands of people is fine when it benefits you. But when Chelsea dominate Arsenal for 20 years, it all of a sudden becomes "wrong". :shrug:
GiRTh
25-01-2023, 03:24 AM
You keep talking about "blood money", well it exists everywhere, im just pointing out the hypocrisy. Blood on the hands of people is fine when it benefits you. But when Chelsea dominate Arsenal for 20 years, it all of a sudden becomes "wrong". :shrug:
Nice of you to make it personal. When did I mention this was about Chelsea V Arsenal.
This is why Chelsea fans are so horrific. You were absolutely nothing before the Oligarchs blood money. Its true, come to terms with it. That disgusting humans beings stinking money that he obtained with blood on his hands made you the club you are today. Without it you would be nothing.
Imagine if Ken Bates was chairmen. Its laughable to think you would have won leagues never mind Champions leagues under Ken Bates. If you're happy with it though, then that's OK.:thumbs:
Nice of you to make it personal. When did I mention this was about Chelsea V Arsenal.
This is why Chelsea fans are so horrific. You were absolutely nothing before the Oligarchs blood money. Its true, come to terms with it. That disgusting humans beings stinking money that he obtained with blood on his hands made you the club you are today. Without it you would be nothing.
Imagine if Ken Bates was chairmen. Its laughable to think you would have won leagues never mind Champions leagues under Ken Bates. If you're happy with it though, then that's OK.:thumbs:
I've already shown you proof you're wrong about that.
5 credible Trophies in the 6 years before Roman. Again, Chelsea's Italian connection seriously improved the team.
Mystic Mock
25-01-2023, 04:36 AM
Before the blood money, you were also rans, you were Aston Villa. Villa went one way and you went the other :thumbs:
That's cruel to compare Chelsea to them lot.:nono:
It's almost like Girth is blaming Chelsea fans that a Russian Billionaire brought the club 20 years ago...It's beyond weird.
Roman also donated all the net proceeds of the sale of Chelsea to the victims of the Ukrainian War....
Businessmen are ruthless, in all forms, their blood in the hands so so many!
there used to be a massive Russian influence at arsenal a few short years ago too, people have short memories :laugh:
there used to be a massive Russian influence at arsenal a few short years ago too, people have short memories :laugh:
Exactly, all just pure hypocrisy!
The Slim Reaper
25-01-2023, 10:55 AM
there used to be a massive Russian influence at arsenal a few short years ago too, people have short memories :laugh:
Arsenal have always been a self-funded club though, so not sure what "influence" means. Usmanov tried for years to buy them and do a Roman, but he was always prevented from doing so by the old Arsenal board, who even refused to sell him the club when it was up for sale.
Abramovich has been involved in corrupt deals. Not condoning it, but it happens in business. Blood money though? I thought people would be happy he cheated the Russian Government out of Billions in a deal? That he's donating the proceeds from the Chelsea sale to the victims of the Ukrainian war? I know he's ruthless, and we'll never know how dodgy he was/is. But this "blood money" crap is getting old.
Also Slim, do you think Chelsea were "sh!t/nothing/villa" before Abramovich? As Girth insists on saying in ever post?!!
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