Does Family Guy take the jokes too far?

[Redway]

They have a rep. for taking the piss out of everything and I guess that’s all well-and-good to a certain extent (as long as our Brian’s left out of the piss-taking) but do you feel that some of it is grossly inappropriate or that it’s just part-and-parcel of the show?

[Oliver_W]

There's no such thing as a joke being taken "too far". Unless it implies a call to violence, nothing should be seen as off-limits.

[Redway]

There's no such thing as a joke being taken "too far". Unless it implies a call to violence, nothing should be seen as off-limits.

Violence isn’t the be-and-end-all for me if there’s a situational/contextual reason for it, it isn’t rooted in discrimination and doesn’t call people (you’ll always get the odd nutters who’ll take anything as their excuse-cue to kick off) to get violent it is what it is. That’s the reality of virtual reality and it starts with video-games (and I don’t have any strong anti-opinions for that in the first place). Jokes about rape and hate-crime should be absolutely off-limits, IMO.

[Redway]

And I love Family Guy at least just as much as the next person (which should be pretty obvious by now) but yeah. Sometimes I feel like they take it way too far and that the jokes that stay within decency-propriety sometimes sorely lack the subtlety of South Park’s ones (and I don’t really prefer South Park to F.G., but their comedy’s definitely superior).

[Alf]

If you take any TV show, especially a comedy, too far, then you should question yourself, because you're the one with the problem.

[Oliver_W]

Jokes about rape and hate-crime should be absolutely off-limits, IMO.

Why?

[Alf]

Why?Yeah, it sounds like he doesn't want rapists to be ridiculed, it comes across like he wants them protected from that.

So exactly, Why!?

[Alf]

I bet he doesn't think jokes specifically about White people should be off limits.

I'm right on that, arne't I?

[Redway]

Why?

It’s just a bit distasteful when the likes of Peter joke about being raped and “violated” when it’s a very serious and unfortunate thing to happen to someone. I don’t find jokes about sexual abuse funny but that’s just me.

[Redway]

I bet he doesn't think jokes specifically about White people should be off limits.

I'm right on that, arne't I?

You’re not right on anything re. this thread but you crack on.

[Alf]

You’re not right on anything re. this thread but you crack on.I'm always right on comedy, I see your thread for what it is, wanting to cancel humour, especially British humour that will makes jokes about anything, including race, war, class. Nothing is off limits in British culture humour and long may it continue.

[Swan]

South Park is much better. Politically South Park is on point.

[Alf]

I asked my girlfriend if we could try my rape fantasy last night, she said no! It was the best night of my life.

Now that is a perfectly funny joke.

[Redway]

I'm always right on comedy, I see your thread for what it is, wanting to cancel humour, especially British humour that will makes jokes about anything, including race, war, class. Nothing is off limits in British culture humour and long may it continue.

Well, that may be but Family Guy’s an American show in the first place so … y’know.

[Alf]

Well, that may be but Family Guy’s an American show in the first place so … y’know.It's all the same, the yanks can do humour the same as us. It's all humour deriving from the English language.

I see you anti-comedy people as no different to those religious types who cry blasphemy.

[Oliver_W]

It’s just a bit distasteful when the likes of Peter joke about being raped and “violated” when it’s a very serious and unfortunate thing to happen to someone. I don’t find jokes about sexual abuse funny but that’s just me.

Taste and humour are subjective, the writers of Family Guy certainly don't seem to be trying to write jokes that make me laugh. But I still think they should be alllwed to keep flogging their dead horse, regardless of how funny or tasteful I don't find them.

[Redway]

It's all the same, the yanks can do humour the same as us. It's all humour deriving from the English language.

I see you anti-comedy people as no different to those religious types who cry blasphemy.

If I was that anti-comedy I wouldn’t watch Family Guy in the first place. Chill.

[Alf]

If I was that anti-comedy I wouldn’t watch Family Guy in the first place. Chill.I'm just answering your question in a more dramatic way.

The boring answer to your question is. No, it doesn't.

[user104658]

For me it's not a matter of "too far" or that sort of a sliding scale, it's about what I would call finesse. That's always the case with comedy. There's very little that's too far if it's done right and especially when it's clearly satire/social commentary. No comedian or comedy is going to hit the bullseye 100% of the time - I personally find that the issue with Family Guy is that it can be a bit scattershot, sometimes it hits the mark and sometimes it's waaay wide of the target, and often they do it a bit carelessly. By which I mean, if you're going to have dark jokes about dark subjects you should be at least confident that it's going to land. Family Guy writing seems to knowingly just take "pot shots" sometimes in the HOPES that they'll work, and with little care that if they don't, they're poking at areas that should be handled with a bit more respect.

It's not even like the vast majority land either, I'd say with FG about 40% is funny, 40% is unoffensive but also ... unfunny ... and the other 20% is "head in hands" misfire.

Funnily enough - the Family Guy scene that I found the funniest was Peter trying and failing to flick a dead frog out of the window... which is very PG and uncontroversial (except for maybe vegans or something I dunno). And I think, generally, it's actually funniest when it's NOT trying too hard to be edgy.

[user104658]

South Park is much better. Politically South Park is on point.

South Park is the opposite of what I said above for me, as much as I love it. Their satire is usually dead on target and they tackle things that are more controversial than Family Guy all the time, but because their satire is so good it pretty much always works. From at least S5-ish onwards, anyway, it was a bit more crude for the first couple of years.

But rather than missing the mark with clumsiness like Family Guy, I find that when South Park misses the comedy mark it's because they've leaned too heavily into being openly "preachy" and it just isn't entertaining at that point.

Like I said though it's very rare and, actually, I think there were just a couple of seasons where it went that way maybe 4/5 years back. They're definitely back on form now, and they've mastered season-long "themed" arcs too.

[Redway]

Another ting I don’t like about Family Guy is the fact that Peter’s depicted as the main protagonist because of misogynistic ideas from a certain time that the man, no matter how irresponsible and moronic he is, js the head of the family. Brian, Stewie and Louis are in a different league to him (and I don’t necessarily dislike Peter).

[user104658]

Another ting I don’t like about Family Guy is the fact that Peter’s depicted as the main protagonist because of misogynistic ideas from a certain time that the man, no matter how irresponsible and moronic he is, js the head of the family. Brian, Stewie and Louis are in a different league to him (and I don’t necessarily dislike Peter).

To be fair I always took that to be a satire of the "classic US family sitcom/comedy movie", where the big fat bloke is always "in charge" no matter how ridiculous and bumbling he is. They also play a bit on the fact that they're in a decent sized, detached family house that they own when it seems unlikely that Peter is competent enough to be doing anything worthwhile to earn the money to pay for it, and Lois (I believe) doesn't work (another US trope).

On that vein I thoroughly recommend the show "Kevin Can ****** Himself" - which is a dark parody of sitcoms and plays on the same trope (Kevin is basically Peter Griffin, the protagonist is his wife who is basically Lois if she finally had enough and had a mental breakdown). If you're going to watch it though watch at least the first two episodes - it is NOT what it seems to be in the first episode (a bad sitcom) - it is a dark comedy/drama.

Basically (semi spoilers as it's a reveal at the very end of the first episode)

The show is in two different styles. Most of the show that's about the wife and all of the other characters when "Kevin" isn't around is shot like a gritty, slightly depressing comedy drama ... with a major plot point being that she's plotting to kill her husband. Any scene that Kevin is in or enters, the camera style changes, everything becomes really light/colourful, and it's all stupid jokes and "laughter in a can" like a 90's sitcom. Then he leaves the room and it flips back. It's a very interesting show for those who have ever watched "family sitcoms". Basically the idea is that his constant "quest for laughs" and silly hair-brained schemes are actually ruining other people's lives, and leaving them broke.

Fair warning it's pretty bleak/depressing at its core.

[Niamh.]

Is that animated as well TS or not? ^

[MTVN]

It’s just a bit distasteful when the likes of Peter joke about being raped and “violated” when it’s a very serious and unfortunate thing to happen to someone. I don’t find jokes about sexual abuse funny but that’s just me.

I do agree actually and they sometimes joke about abusing underage people as well which is pretty suspect. Like SB says a lot of it just feels scattershot as well and serves no purpose

I was amazed a few weeks ago though to discover my 94 year old Grandma knew of Family Guy and she described it as 'an ethically sound program' :skull: can only assume she's only seen a small sample size

[bots]

family guy has never done it for me so i've rarely watched it. Southpark on the other hand, is great, in my opinion

[user104658]

Is that animated as well TS or not? ^

No it's live action, the protagonist (the wife) is Alexis from Schitt's Creek. Well, the actress... I hope it's not poor Alexis' sequel story :worry:.

I thoroughly recommend it but like I said you have to not take it at face value for 90% of episode 1 ... I was literally on the verge of turning it off as a terrible sitcom before I saw the frustrated IMDB reviews telling people to wait. Unfortunately their IMDB rating is still MUCH lower than it should be because it's flooded with reviews of people who watched half of the first episode and reviewed it as the most irritating sitcom in history :laugh: (again, the whole point of the show as it turns out, is that the SITCOM main character - Kevin - is supposed to be absolutely abhorrent. Like you're supposed to say "quite right get 'im!!" about her literally wanting him dead :joker:

[Niamh.]

No it's live action, the protagonist (the wife) is Alexis from Schitt's Creek. Well, the actress... I hope it's not poor Alexis' sequel story :worry:.

I thoroughly recommend it but like I said you have to not take it at face value for 90% of episode 1 ... I was literally on the verge of turning it off as a terrible sitcom before I saw the frustrated IMDB reviews telling people to wait. Unfortunately their IMDB rating is still MUCH lower than it should be because it's flooded with reviews of people who watched half of the first episode and reviewed it as the most irritating sitcom in history :laugh: (again, the whole point of the show as it turns out, is that the SITCOM main character - Kevin - is supposed to be absolutely abhorrent. Like you're supposed to say "quite right get 'im!!" about her literally wanting him dead :joker:

Ohhhh I love her, she was my favourite in Schitts Creek (along with Moira obvs) I'll see if I can find it somewhere later

[user104658]

Ohhhh I love her, she was my favourite in Schitts Creek (along with Moira obvs) I'll see if I can find it somewhere later

[edit] Apparently it's NOT an amazon show, it's AMC but outside the US it is free on Prime.

It's an Amazon show so it's free on Prime, but I'm sure can be found elsewhere if not :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Niamh.]

It's an Amazon show so it's free on Prime, but I'm sure can be found elsewhere if not :hehe:

I don't have Prime but maybe maybe .......... :hehe:

[Redway]

To be fair I always took that to be a satire of the "classic US family sitcom/comedy movie", where the big fat bloke is always "in charge" no matter how ridiculous and bumbling he is. They also play a bit on the fact that they're in a decent sized, detached family house that they own when it seems unlikely that Peter is competent enough to be doing anything worthwhile to earn the money to pay for it, and Lois (I believe) doesn't work (another US trope).

On that vein I thoroughly recommend the show "Kevin Can ****** Himself" - which is a dark parody of sitcoms and plays on the same trope (Kevin is basically Peter Griffin, the protagonist is his wife who is basically Lois if she finally had enough and had a mental breakdown). If you're going to watch it though watch at least the first two episodes - it is NOT what it seems to be in the first episode (a bad sitcom) - it is a dark comedy/drama.

Basically (semi spoilers as it's a reveal at the very end of the first episode)

The show is in two different styles. Most of the show that's about the wife and all of the other characters when "Kevin" isn't around is shot like a gritty, slightly depressing comedy drama ... with a major plot point being that she's plotting to kill her husband. Any scene that Kevin is in or enters, the camera style changes, everything becomes really light/colourful, and it's all stupid jokes and "laughter in a can" like a 90's sitcom. Then he leaves the room and it flips back. It's a very interesting show for those who have ever watched "family sitcoms". Basically the idea is that his constant "quest for laughs" and silly hair-brained schemes are actually ruining other people's lives, and leaving them broke.

Fair warning it's pretty bleak/depressing at its core.
Yeah, I can’t vibe with or warm to that at all. He’s veritably challenged to the point where Louis has to have him use post-it notes in lieu of checks and he’s just a terrible person (I still kind of like him but to say he’s a bumbling fool would be an understatement).

[user104658]

I don't have Prime but maybe maybe .......... :hehe:

Definitely worth it - it's also not very long and it's complete (limited series, 2 seasons of 8 episodes that ended last October) so a complete story and not a huge time committment.

[user104658]

Yeah, I can’t vibe with or warm to that at all. He’s veritably challenged to the point where Louis has to have him use post-it notes in lieu of checks and he’s just a terrible person (I still kind of like him but to say he’s a bumbling fool would be an understatement).

I think as with most comedies there's also been "character trait creep" where he wasn't quite as dramatically incompetent in the first few seasons but became more and more so. Similar to Joey in Friends, who started out S1 as their "less educated but fairly street smart" friend ... but by the end was basically a toddler trapped in a grown man's body.

[Niamh.]

Definitely worth it - it's also not very long and it's complete (limited series, 2 seasons of 8 episodes that ended last October) so a complete story and not a huge time committment.

Great stuff, I'll try to find somewhere to watch it and report back

[Redway]

I do agree actually and they sometimes joke about abusing underage people as well which is pretty suspect. Like SB says a lot of it just feels scattershot as well and serves no purpose

I was amazed a few weeks ago though to discover my 94 year old Grandma knew of Family Guy and she described it as 'an ethically sound program' :skull: can only assume she's only seen a small sample size

I was watching an episode last night involving Quagmire (surprise, surprise) and a high-school girl who lied about her age (to cut a long story short the only thing that stopped Quagmire from serving a 20-year sentence was his mum sleeping with the judge). That was awkward.

[Redway]

I’ll give that series a shout (I’ll stick with the first two episodes to begin with and see how it goes), SB.

[Redway]

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Why has everything got to come down to race with you?

[Redway]

I think as with most comedies there's also been "character trait creep" where he wasn't quite as dramatically incompetent in the first few seasons but became more and more so. Similar to Joey in Friends, who started out S1 as their "less educated but fairly street smart" friend ... but by the end was basically a toddler trapped in a grown man's body.

(Moving swiftly on from LT’s usual bait) yeah. They did the same thing to Homer Simpson, Junior off My Wife and Kids and Chelsea (That’s So Raven). Chelsea in particular was fairly smart in season 1 (and partially season 2) but in seasons 3 and 4 it was a miracle how she was able to get by without a cater all day or had the sentimental sensitivity-intelligence to even have strong morals about animals. In the earlier episodes she hardly acted like that at all.

[Swan]

I dunno if anyone has seen Silicon Valley, it's not animated, but there's some risky dialogue in that. The interplay between two characters, Gilfoyle and Dinesh that boarders what would certainly be considered non-acceptable out of context today (i think the show ran from 2013-2019). But the interplay between the two characters works so well, that simply comes across as very funny.

It's the same with one Joke, by a character who you'd never expect it from, it could come across pretty offensive out of context, but the delivery, and coming from the most unexpected character, just make it's incredibly funny.

Mike Judge show. Witty, funny, slick, excellent comedy. Highly recommend. The writing is great. And context is key.

I can't really judge on Family Guy, not seen it since season 5. South Park, which as SB said, from season 5 ish onward become more political, and pushed boundaries, has been politically spot for 20 years now, barring a couple of latter season misses. And they've admitted when wrong, like they did about Climate Change recently ish with Al Gore (paired with the RDR2 release in 2018). Politically firm Centre imo. Matt Stone and Trey Parker would just find it funny if they got cancelled anyway. It wouldn't stop them, and they don't need the money. Both are worth half a Billion $ now.

Context is key.

[Oliver_W]

They call it "Flanderization".

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization

[user104658]

They call it "Flanderization".

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization

Interestingly I think you can see the opposite in South Park - characters were all quite trope-y caricatures in eastrly seasons and have developed into more nuanced characters over the span of the show.

From what I did watch of Family Guy I'd say the same thing about Stewie, though I've not seen anything newer than about 5 years ago. They leaned a little heavily into "Stewie is gay" but at the start the joke was just "evil plotting baby" and he over time became a more rounded character.

[Oliver_W]

To be fair Stewie is the one with the most scope for development - he's the only family member who's not a stereotype (how many American sitcoms have a possibly gay posh British baby?!) and the only one who's not some flavour of stupid.

[Swan]

(Moving swiftly on from LT’s usual bait) yeah. They did the same thing to Homer Simpson, Junior off My Wife and Kids and Chelsea (That’s So Raven). Chelsea in particular was fairly smart in season 1 (and partially season 2) but in seasons 3 and 4 it was a miracle how she was able to get by without a cater all day or had the sentimental sensitivity-intelligence to even have strong morals about animals. In the earlier episodes she hardly acted like that at all.

I just thought the guy who played Junior was pretty bad actor. Damon Wayans, and the woman who played the wife carried that show.

[Redway]

I just thought the guy who played Junior was pretty bad actor. Damon Wayans, and the woman who played the wife carried that show.

His acting was crap but in fairness to the character he wasn’t as much of a bumbling idiot in the first season or two (likewise for whoever the flanderdised snapback one was between Kenan and Kel; I think he had a fetish for orange soda).

And yeah, Oliver, it is called flanderdisation. They take the character who’s either relatively normal, even smart, but just a bit goofy/quirky or maybe a little slow but within reasonable idiots and dumb them down by the season. The only time it’s ever worked in a character’s favour as far as I can kind of recall is Homer Simpson. He was an abusive jerk in the first few seasons so I actually prefer him as a clumsy doughnut.

[Livia]

I like Family Guy. It's hard to grade comedy. For instance nothing they've ever said about Jews - and they've said a lot - has offended me because it's COMEDY.

[Redway]

To be fair Stewie is the one with the most scope for development - he's the only family member who's not a stereotype (how many American sitcoms have a possibly gay posh British baby?!) and the only one who's not some flavour of stupid.

To me Stewie’s a boss character just by virtue of who he is and his relationship with Brian, not his sexuality. I couldn’t care less about his sexuality and that goes for actual people as well as far as I’m concerned. Unless you tell me I don’t care and I don’t want to know.

[GoldHeart]

There's no such thing as a joke being taken "too far". Unless it implies a call to violence, nothing should be seen as off-limits.

I find it double standard how the rules are cherry picked, family guy & south park get a pass for ' it's just satire bro ' ,but comedians get grief over jokes for being 'too offensive ' . There's no consistency. People get offended now even before watching something for themselves.

Family guy & south park have always pushed the jokes too far imo ,but there you go .

[Swan]

I find it double standard how the rules are cherry picked, family guy & south park get a pass for ' it's just satire bro ' ,but comedians get grief over jokes for being 'too offensive ' . There's no consistency. People get offended now even before watching something for themselves.

Family guy & south park have always pushed the jokes too far imo ,but there you go .

Animation gets away with more because it's animation, not real life. We don't quite process live action, to animation in the same way. Hence the offence is lesser with animation.

However, whatever you do, please don't judge South Park if your haven't followed it for the last 20 years. It makes excellent points. Universities in the US used to, and might still do, classes and lectures on the Politics of South Park. I can't judge really on Family Guy, but South Park goes much deeper than merely 4 kids in Colorado being offensive.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unless you can quantify what "too far means" it would be rather difficult to say

too far for whom?

[GoldHeart]

Yeah, I can’t vibe with or warm to that at all. He’s veritably challenged to the point where Louis has to have him use post-it notes in lieu of checks and he’s just a terrible person (I still kind of like him but to say he’s a bumbling fool would be an understatement).

People class Peter as a man child,I've noticed there's more hate towards Lois ...as she's supposed to be the 'responsible' one ...yet she behaves like a selfish idiot aswell.

[Livia]

Animation gets away with more because it's animation, not real life. We don't quite process live action, to animation in the same way. Hence the offence is lesser with animation.

However, whatever you do, please don't judge South Park if your haven't followed it for the last 20 years. It makes excellent points. Universities in the US used to, and might still do, classes and lectures on the Politics of South Park. I can't judge really on Family Guy, but South Park goes much deeper than merely 4 kids in Colorado being offensive.

Totally agree with the emboldened bit.

[Redway]

Unless you can quantify what "too far means" it would be rather difficult to say

too far for whom?

Too far for your subjective taste, whatever that is (only you would know what that fully means for you).

[Crimson Dynamo]

Too far for your subjective taste, whatever that is (only you would know what that fully means for you).

I dont watch it but my son loves it and shows me lots of clips

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[Redway]

People class Peter as a man child,I've noticed there's more hate towards Lois ...as she's supposed to be the 'responsible' one ...yet she behaves like a selfish idiot aswell.

I don’t mind Peter being the henpecked man-child (that’s a common thing to varying extents both on television and in reality) but I’m not really here for him indirectly being seen as the protagonist and (in anything other than his delusional dreams) man of the house just because he da man of the house. I watch Family Guy through the lens of Stewie and Brian (not just because they’re two of the only smarter, sensible people on that show minus Brian’s intermittent alcoholism) and I’m sure a lot of other people do as well so the whole ‘king Peter’ rhetoric could do with being dialled down.

Having Louis married to Peter is an L but in terms of selfishness they’re almost as bad as each other, just in different ways. I would judge Louis harsher (and she does give off narcissistic vibes sometimes) for it than Peter on account of her being much smarter but there’s enough about her that makes her reasonably non-annoying so she doesn’t bother me too much. I just enjoy her for what she is and ignore the fact that she’s married to who she’s married to.

[GoldHeart]

Too far for your subjective taste, whatever that is (only you would know what that fully means for you).

But this is the problem ...as it's 'subjective' as you say . What I find offensive you might not & so on . I have found some of the jokes funny in family guy ,but others are just awful.

This is why sometimes you get people saying either everything is ok or everything is off limits,but then both those situations are problematic.

I understand context & satire ,but Family Guy throws alot of crap at the wall as well ... seeing what sticks and what doesn't. I don't even think the writers are bothered anymore if the audience finds it funny. It's just about pushing boundaries.

[Redway]

But this is the problem ...as it's 'subjective' as you say . What I find offensive you might not & so on . I have found some of the jokes funny in family guy ,but others are just awful.

This is why sometimes you get people saying either everything is ok or everything is off limits,but then both those situations are problematic.

I understand context & satire ,but Family Guy throws alot of crap at the wall as well ... seeing what sticks and what doesn't. I don't even think the writers are bothered anymore if the audience finds it funny. It's just about pushing boundaries.

Well, this is it, GoldHeart. That’s why we’re having a discussion about it.

[GoldHeart]

Well, this is it, GoldHeart. That’s why we’re having a discussion about it.

Also it's about the jokes actually being funny , another example is The Simpsons...imo the earlier seasons were better written and funnier.

[Redway]

Also it's about the jokes actually being funny , another example is The Simpsons...imo the earlier seasons were better written and funnier.

I think everyone can agree about The Simpsons. The O.G. seasons were probably objectively the best (or at least among them) but seasons 9-16 are my favourites, with 17-19 being average. Season 20 onwards is very different from the original show but I still take it for what it is and vaguely enjoy watching them. It’s still a good show to me.

[Mystic Mock]

For me there is no joke that goes too far.

Of course I have jokes from the Show that I don't find funny, but I don't get offended at the jokes because they're just jokes, there's no actual malice behind it.

In my view if anyone is getting offended at jokes from Family Guy then the problem is with you rather than the Show, just like how the issue was with the Muslim community who by and large were getting offended at South Park depicting Mohammed, and even getting the episodes banned in the UK, I remember Patrick on here going mad at the time about it as he was a huge South Park fan, and he was 100% bang on.

Apologies for the long post, but I will always defend Comedy that has no real malice behind it.

[Mystic Mock]

It’s just a bit distasteful when the likes of Peter joke about being raped and “violated” when it’s a very serious and unfortunate thing to happen to someone. I don’t find jokes about sexual abuse funny but that’s just me.

I thought that episode was really funny.

Especially with how they cover Lois's hypocrisy at laughing at the idea of Peter being raped because his a man, in Family Guy's own weird kinda way they were covering a couple of big issues in that episode, but they just made it absurd in presentation like Family Guy always does, especially back then.

[user104658]

For me there is no joke that goes too far.

Of course I have jokes from the Show that I don't find funny, but I don't get offended at the jokes because they're just jokes, there's no actual malice behind it.

In my view if anyone is getting offended at jokes from Family Guy then the problem is with you rather than the Show, just like how the issue was with the Muslim community who by and large were getting offended at South Park depicting Mohammed, and even getting the episodes banned in the UK, I remember Patrick on here going mad at the time about it as he was a huge South Park fan, and he was 100% bang on.

Apologies for the long post, but I will always defend Comedy that has no real malice behind it.

The Mohammed episode of South Park was basically them testing Comedy Central to see if they'd actually do it - they didn't show it uncensored anywhere. They aired the episode but the depiction of Mohammed was covered by a big "censored" box as the issue with Mohammed is about it being seen as sacrilege to show an image depicting him. Basically they can take the piss about Islam, they can TALK about Mohammed, they can pretty much push it as far as it goes... Right up to the point of actually showing the image. That's where the network caved.

Understandably as I believe it was all done as a political statement in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo incident. Which does take some cajones :umm2:.

[Mystic Mock]

I was watching an episode last night involving Quagmire (surprise, surprise) and a high-school girl who lied about her age (to cut a long story short the only thing that stopped Quagmire from serving a 20-year sentence was his mum sleeping with the judge). That was awkward.

I'd say that you're taking the episode too seriously.

The Show is clearly not pro Paedophilia, it would be banned if it was.

The Show just loves to be absurd, we don't exactly want it to turn into today's TV where entertainment is dead do we?

[Mystic Mock]

The Mohammed episode of South Park was basically them testing Comedy Central to see if they'd actually do it - they didn't show it uncensored anywhere. They aired the episode but the depiction of Mohammed was covered by a big "censored" box as the issue with Mohammed is about it being seen as sacrilege to show an image depicting him. Basically they can take the piss about Islam, they can TALK about Mohammed, they can pretty much push it as far as it goes... Right up to the point of actually showing the image. That's where the network caved.

Understandably as I believe it was all done as a political statement in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo incident. Which does take some cajones :umm2:.

That Charlie Hebdo incident was really disturbed when you look at the reason for why it happened.

[GoldHeart]

I thought that episode was really funny.

Especially with how they cover Lois's hypocrisy at laughing at the idea of Peter being raped because his a man, in Family Guy's own weird kinda way they were covering a couple of big issues in that episode, but they just made it absurd in presentation like Family Guy always does, especially back then.

It honestly just highlighted what bitch Lois is lol , like I said earlier on.... people give her more hate as she's supposed to be the 'responsible' parent. Peter seems to get a pass ,as nobody takes his man child behaviour seriously.

[Mystic Mock]

It honestly just highlighted what bitch Lois is lol , like I said earlier on.... people give her more hate as she's supposed to be the 'responsible' parent. Peter seems to get a pass ,as nobody takes his man child behaviour seriously.

Speaking for myself I like both characters personally.

I think I'd probably be more offended by them if the Show was telling me that Peter & Lois were noble people, the same with Quagmire or Stewie, but tbf to the writers they do acknowledge that the Griffins in particular are a trainwreck.:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Speaking for myself I like both characters personally.

I think I'd probably be more offended by them if the Show was telling me that Peter & Lois were noble people, the same with Quagmire or Stewie, but tbf to the writers they do acknowledge that the Griffins in particular are a trainwreck.:laugh:

That's definitely true LOL, did you ever see the crossover episode with The Simpsons??... it basically made The Simpsons look like The care bears compared to The Griffins :laugh: .

[Redway]

That's definitely true LOL, did you ever see the crossover episode with The Simpsons??... it basically made The Simpsons look like The care bears compared to The Griffins :laugh: .

That crossover episode with the Simpsons is still available on ITVX (I think) and … yh. Marge Simpson is very much a cartoon member of The Waltons compared to any of the F.G. characters besides Meg (who gets bullied way too much on that show).

[Mystic Mock]

That's definitely true LOL, did you ever see the crossover episode with The Simpsons??... it basically made The Simpsons look like The care bears compared to The Griffins :laugh: .

Oh I remember that episode for the car wash scene alone.:joker:

I think I also remember Bart being horrified by something that Stewie did, but I can't remember exactly what Stewie did.

[Redway]

Oh I remember that episode for the car wash scene alone.:joker:

I think I also remember Bart being horrified by something that Stewie did, but I can't remember exactly what Stewie did.

This is one of the things we’re talking about, to be fair. It was about Stewie prank-calling Mo (after Bart) about his daughter or someone being raped. I did think it was nasty but that’s just how Family Guy is, clearly.

[Redway]

Speaking for myself I like both characters personally.

I think I'd probably be more offended by them if the Show was telling me that Peter & Lois were noble people, the same with Quagmire or Stewie, but tbf to the writers they do acknowledge that the Griffins in particular are a trainwreck.:laugh:

Peter’s character changed an awful lot as the series progressed, to be fair. I think a lot of what he was like in the beginning (a bit dim but not too stupid) was the fact that the debut seasons came out before the flanderdisation era so the dumber characters weren’t a total anti-intellect train-wreck.

[Redway]

Any idea why Louis’ dad is treating Brian like a 15-year-old in episode 19 (ITVX’s latest upload)?

[Livia]

It's a comedy show Red, I try not to over think it.

[user104658]

Any idea why Louis’ dad is treating Brian like a 15-year-old in episode 19 (ITVX’s latest upload)?

Doesn't Lois' dad basically treat everyone like a petulant teenager?

[Redway]

Doesn't Lois' dad basically treat everyone like a petulant teenager?

True. That he does.

[Swan]

The new episode of South Park was excellent tonight and bang on the money concerning Jewish people "running" Hollywood and Kayne West being crazy. And about how films and tv shows are shoving so much (lack of a better term) "woke" bollocks down everyone's throats.

One of the only tv shows remaining with common sense. The offended will always find something to be offended about, when they can't be a victim anymore, when their own "poor me, give me attention" runs out, they become offended for others, usually white men being offended for black people. It must be so insulting for a black person when white people seem to think they know better about offence and bigotry. 3 or 4 do it on here daily.

Anyway, if you're not a deluded snowflake trying to be offended for everyone else, give the new episode of South Park a watch. It's very refreshing.

[Redway]

South Park rocks.

[Swan]

South Park rocks.

It's just refreshing that Matt Stone and Trey Parker don't ever give a toss, and 99.9% of the time their commentary on the current political climate is absolutely spot on.

I mean, the only reason they've not been cancelled is because they wouldn't care, actually they'd probably find it funny. Both are worth over half a billion now, so the only ones laughing would be them

[Redway]

‘Thank you, Stewie. I’ll take the dollar-note and give you a spoon, because you’re a dumb baby.’

Oh, if only Peter knew.

[Redway]

Anyone up for a Family Guy episode discussion thread?