Surrey:Black schoolgirl is beaten up by a gang of bullies

[arista]

Was on Ch5HDnews
refused to show the video

The Photos were Not showing faces


[A video has been circulating on
social media of a lone Black girl being
viciously attacked by a gang
of white girls in Ashford,
Surrey on 6 February.
The 15-year-old victim, who is a pupil at
Thomas Knyvett College,
is beaten while voices off camera encourage
the attack and direct the assault.
The motives for this attack are unclear.
However, no scenario makes this violence acceptable.]

[Liam-]

Can’t wait to see the excused people come up for why she deserved it

[Crimson Dynamo]

kids fighting eh?

who would have thot it

[arista]

kids fighting eh?

who would have thought it



Problem a Adult 39
was telling them them Kick her in

WARNING FIGHT on one Girl
https://twitter.com/ADPAC6/status/1622999605364330496


Ch5HDnews should have shown some of that

Was on Surrey Police Search Twitter

[Crimson Dynamo]

Problem a Adult 39
was telling them then Kick her in

WARNING FIGHT on one Girl
https://twitter.com/ADPAC6/status/1622999605364330496


Ch5 should have shown some of that

Was on Surrey Police Search Twitter

It looks like a family, the mum is shouting and her daughters are in "the fight."

No one gets hurt its just hair pulling

I watched in on Kaotic earlier - amazed it made it on there tbh

[arista]

It looks like a family, the mum is shouting and her daughters are in "the fight."

No one gets hurt its just hair pulling

I watched in on Kaotic earlier - amazed it made it on there tbh



Adults backing it
need arresting

[Crimson Dynamo]

Adults backing it
need arresting

No doubt the police will say she fell in a river so they cant do anything

[arista]

No doubt the police will say she fell in a river so they cant do anything


Well that's in the trends
sure.


One on One fights are fine (normal in my view)
but not a massive Gang

[arista]

"I watched in on Kaotic earlier"


Was longer than 1:58mins?

[arista]

https://twitter.com/FeeKakes/status/1623280589565485056

School info
from Twitter

[thesheriff443]

It’s an Irish gypsy family attacking a school girl

The older one doesn’t go to the school but her younger sister does
Dirty cowards

[arista]

It’s an Irish gypsy family attacking a school girl

The older one doesn’t go to the school but her younger sister does
Dirty cowards


Please post a Link
if you can

[Crimson Dynamo]

"I watched in on Kaotic earlier"


Was longer than 1:58mins?

no it was 1:58

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s an Irish gypsy family attacking a school girl

The older one doesn’t go to the school but her younger sister does
Dirty cowards

yes i thought they were gypos too

[arista]

no it was 1:58


OK so only the One Video.

[arista]

yes i thought they were gypos too



Its a real Shame
if one goes to the School

Could all be a miss understanding

[Mystic Mock]

Can’t wait to see the excused people come up for why she deserved it

Bullying should never be excused imo.

Especially when it leads to something like this.

[arista]

The School has had Protests outside it


BBC1 London Local news

[Cherie]

Horrible video with the Mum coaching the kids ...:umm2:

[GoldHeart]

It’s an Irish gypsy family attacking a school girl

The older one doesn’t go to the school but her younger sister does
Dirty cowards

They'll probably be on the run ,of course they're cowards... several kids picking on and fighting 1 child .....disgusting .

Nobody did anything to stop it either , makes you wonder what else is going on at that degenerate school . Bet the kids can't even read & write yet they can bully & fight ! Gross really.

[GoldHeart]

Bullying should never be excused imo.

Especially when it leads to something like this.

I'm so glad I never went into teaching, the kids today are such vile illiterate creatures .

For once filming will actually be used as evidence, I don't usually like the zombie spectators. But now they can investigate this disgusting behaviour.

[Beso]

Ain't it a shame when a bully gets bullied..

Not.

[Liam-]

5 people arrested including a 39 year old woman and 40-odd old man, sounds like a gross racist family day out

[arista]

5 people arrested including a 39 year old woman and 40-odd old man, sounds like a gross racist family day out


Good.

[Beso]

Not one mention about her colour, but I did hear them say that's for bullying someone.. I'm assuming the black lass was bullying the white girls little sister and she came to stop that from happening in the future.

Old school style reaction to a bully who is bullying a member of your family.

Maybe if the schools actually did something about it to begin with this may not have happened.

I have no sympathy for her at all.

[GoldHeart]

Not one mention about her colour, but I did hear them say that's for bullying someone.. I'm assuming the black lass was bullying the white girls little sister and she came to stop that from happening in the future.

Old school style reaction to a bully who is bullying a member of your family.

Maybe if the schools actually did something about it to begin with this may not have happened.

I have no sympathy for her at all.


Several kids jumping 1 kid ...you think is justified!????? :umm2: . Aswell as a grotesque mother egging it on ??? .

[Beso]

Several kids jumping 1 kid ...you think is justified!????? :umm2: . Aswell as a grotesque mother egging it on ??? .

Yes I do. When you think of the mysery shes inflicted on others, then it makes me think she got what she deserved.

It worked on gripper stepson.

[GoldHeart]

Well that's in the trends
sure.


One on One fights are fine (normal in my view)
but not a massive Gang

They're Cowards jumping 1 person, even if the girl fought one of them ....you don't all jump like a gang,
Disgusting really.

[Jordan.]

Hideous "mother" and her feral kids. Of course the black girl was handing her her ass until the rest of the pack joined in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hideous "mother" and her feral kids. Of course the black girl was handing her her ass until the rest of the pack joined in.

is that what you got from this?

jesus

:skull:

[Mystic Mock]

I'm so glad I never went into teaching, the kids today are such vile illiterate creatures .

For once filming will actually be used as evidence, I don't usually like the zombie spectators. But now they can investigate this disgusting behaviour.

I hope that the parents get a hefty fine over this.

That will soon teach them and their horrible kids not to behave like this again if they want to stay financially stable.

And sadly Teachers are caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to dealing with bullies.

[GoldHeart]

I hope that the parents get a hefty fine over this.

That will soon teach them and their horrible kids not to behave like this again if they want to stay financially stable.

And sadly Teachers are caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to dealing with bullies.

Yeah hopefully something is done about this .

Those kids were clearly dragged up instead of brought up, the vile parent is encouraging the bullying. I bet all-sorts of nasty stuff is happening at that school,I wouldn't be surprised if some of them carry knives.

As for the teachers, it took that long until they broke the fight up ...so it doesn't give people much faith . But like I said I don't envy that job.

[Livia]

Jeez... Have none of you been to secondary school? Mine was ****ing brutal. Maybe I was unlucky but I remember secondary school was a terrifying place where bullies rule d the roost. A fight like this was commonplace... Only we didn't make everything about race... Because white kids were the minority.

[Liam-]

If you’re comfortable watching the video of a child being attacked by 5 people, including a grown ass woman, or think it’s not that big of a deal, then that probably says more about you than the people horrified about it

[Cherie]

Clearly this was a bullying issue nothing to do with the colour of the girls skin :skull:

[Oliver_W]

While I'm not gonna minimise the event, I really doubt she's the only girl to have been beaten up by a gang of bullies that week, let alone that day.

People suck, news at ten.

[Liam-]

Well some of the people arrested were arrested for racially motivated assault, but the tibb crew know better obviously

[Niamh.]

Whatever the motivation was, I'm glad they were arrested, no child should be targeted like that by a mob led by baying adults

[Livia]

A bit more background might be nice..... But I do agree the adult joining in was shameful.

[Livia]

If you’re comfortable watching the video of a child being attacked by 5 people, including a grown ass woman, or think it’s not that big of a deal, then that probably says more about you than the people horrified about it

You may have a comprehension problem.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/02/67443483-11725053-image-a-78_1675823237214.jpg

[The violent footage shows a group of
young girls attacking a teenager in the
middle of the street on Monday afternoon]

[arista]

[Relative of girl beaten in horrifying
'racist attack' outside school demands teachers
'who didn't intervene' are sacked – after two girls,
aged 11, and woman, 39, were among five arrested

Five people - including a
10-year-old and 11-year-old - arrested following fight
Group attacked a single teenage victim
outside a school in Ashford, Surrey]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11730591/Two-11-year-old-girls-woman-39-five-arrested-racially-aggravated-attacks.html

[Oliver_W]

It’s an Irish gypsy family attacking a school girl


This is gonna sound weird but I could tell they were travellers by their body shapes? A lot of them kind of look like tall dwarfs.

(I don't know or care what the motivation was, but there's nothing in the video to suggest it was racially motivated, apart from the girl being black)

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/02/67443485-11725053-image-a-79_1675823238426.jpg
[Police have arrested five people
and are searching for a sixth after
the altercation outside a Surrey school]

[GoldHeart]

Clearly this was a bullying issue nothing to do with the colour of the girls skin :skull:

How do we know though for sure ?..... obviously the media will assume it is as the headline always does that , but I think these kids are probably bullying everyone in their school. And people are saying this is 'common in schools' ....but how many jump 1 person with the mother cheering & egging them on .... Whilst it's being filmed??. Wasn't this after school aswell, imagine you're going home and you get jumped by a bunch of kids from your school .

[Liam-]

You may have a comprehension problem.

Nah, I just read your post and got what you were saying

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/02/67442655-11725053-image-a-75_1675821740352.jpg
[Police have asked people not to share
videos of the fight online and asked
any witnesses to come forward.
There will be extra patrols through
the area in the coming days]


Look Police in Surrey
the tweet I posted is Good
even gives a phone number

[Livia]

Nah, I just read your post and got what you were saying

No, you misrepresent what I say because you don't like me and interpret stuff accordingly.

[arista]

[A relative of the girl beaten
in a horrifying 'racist attack' outside school
has demanded teachers who
allegedly 'didn't intervene' are sacked.
Horrific video footage of the fight was
shared online and shows a gang
of people hitting and kicking the
victim - who is black - while she lies
on the floor.]

[Adult voices can be heard
throughout the altercation,
apparently encouraging the fight
and giving instructions on how
to hurt the teenager.]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11730591/Two-11-year-old-girls-woman-39-five-arrested-racially-aggravated-attacks.html

[Cherie]

How do we know though for sure ?..... obviously the media will assume it is as the headline always does that , but I think these kids are probably bullying everyone in their school. And people are saying this is 'common in schools' ....but how many jump 1 person with the mother cheering & egging them on .... Whilst it's being filmed??. Wasn't this after school aswell, imagine you're going home and you get jumped by a bunch of kids from your school .

I am not condoning it I just think from the footage I have sent that it is some sort of revenge attack rather than a race element, I mean they are travellers they suffer more racist abuse than most

[arista]

Well some of the people arrested were arrested for racially motivated assault, but the tibb crew know better obviously


Yes, that is all that matters.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11730591/Two-11-year-old-girls-woman-39-five-arrested-racially-aggravated-attacks.html

[Livia]

If I'm attacked, no one automatically assumes it's because I'm Jewish. Yet this is a racially motivated attack because the girl is black.

[GoldHeart]

I am not condoning it I just think from the footage I have sent that it is some sort of revenge attack rather than a race element, I mean they are travellers they suffer more racist abuse than most

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

I knew this would happen = "oh they're travellers so they suffer racist abuse " :bored: ( is that supposed to make it less awful? ) .... If anything that makes it worse !!! as they should know what it's like to be treated like that . funny thing is these same gypsies will probably cry when they get racist abuse ...yet they think it's ok to racially abuse others.

It's hypocrisy at it's best , why don't they learn to read and write instead of fighting... so many of these kids can't even spell yet they they can swear and be vile and attack other kids.

[Oliver_W]

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

Where and when was it confirmed? An arrest isn't proof.

[GoldHeart]

Also what did people want to hear in the video ?? Full blown racist slurs as 'proof' or something?? :facepalm:,bear in mind it's a short clip ...who knows what they've said off camera and for how many weeks ??. I'm guessing the bullied girl retaliated ...in the video it looks more like she's defending herself against a literal mob.

Also will be interesting to know how diverse the school actually is ,the area looked quite posh .

[Oliver_W]

Also what did people want to hear in the video ?? Full blown racist slurs as 'proof' or something?? :facepalm:,bear in mind it's a short clip ...who knows what they've said off camera and for how many weeks ??. I'm guessing the bullied girl retaliated ...in the video it looks more like she's defending herself against a literal mob.

You claimed it was confirmed :shrug: I assumed you had more information than ... an arrest.

[GoldHeart]

Where and when was it confirmed? An arrest isn't proof.

I know the media always pushes certain agendas ... believe me I know, but i heard that apparently the bullies were being racist,I hope we find out more about it though.

Also I don't know why they're saying not to post the video online,when that's literally how most of us have seen it ....so it's a bit late now ,so I don't know why they've blurred out 1 of the girls .

[Oliver_W]

I know the media always pushes certain agendas ... believe me I know, but i heard that apparently the bullies were being racist,I hope we find out more about it though.

Where did you hear that?

[GoldHeart]

You claimed it was confirmed :shrug: I assumed you had more information than ... an arrest.

Like I said hopefully we'll find out more .

[Cherie]

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

I knew this would happen = "oh they're travellers so they suffer racist abuse " :bored: ( is that supposed to make it less awful? ) .... If anything that makes it worse !!! as they should know what it's like to be treated like that . funny thing is these same gypsies will probably cry when they get racist abuse ...yet they think it's ok to racially abuse others.

It's hypocrisy at it's best , why don't they learn to read and write instead of fighting... so many of these kids can't even spell yet they they can swear and be vile and attack other kids.

Its not been confirmed at all...the family are claiming racism, its far more likely to an issue between the younger girl in uniform in the clip and the victim....its highly unlikely the family would turn up mob handed to attack some random outside the school

[GoldHeart]

Its not been confirmed at all...the family are claiming racism, its far more likely to an issue between the younger girl in uniform in the clip and the victim....its highly unlikely the family would turn up mob handed to attack some random outside the school

Well it will be interesting to see what the girl herself says...if she confirms it was racism she experienced would you then believe it?? . Maybe the girl told her family it was racism ??.

Yeah I very much believe these chavs would bully anyone , but I still I don't know why you think them being gypsies would stop them being racist themselves :joker: . People are hypocrites ... simply as that . They'll cry abuse but then they'll be prejudice themselves.

[Cherie]

Well it will be interesting to see what the girl herself says...if she confirms it was racism she experienced would you then believe it?? . Maybe the girl told her family it was racism ??.

Yeah I very much believe these chavs would bully anyone , but I still I don't know why you think them being gypsies would stop them being racist themselves :joker: . People are hypocrites ... simply as that . They'll cry abuse but then they'll be prejudice themselves.

If you look at the video again towards the end the Mum is saying something about Downs Syndrome ..and handicapped so it looks like its kicked off over a disabled child

[GoldHeart]

Its not been confirmed at all...the family are claiming racism, its far more likely to an issue between the younger girl in uniform in the clip and the victim....its highly unlikely the family would turn up mob handed to attack some random outside the school

Also if we take the race out of it and put that to the side on both ends , even if the quarrel is between 1 gypsy girl and 1 black girl ...why did the entire traveller family feel the need to get involved including the mother egging it on..... What a good example :suspect: :crazy: .

Usually when school fights happen it's 1 on 1 , yes gangs bully one person... usually name calling etc or little pushes here and there . But in all my life ....I don't think I've ever seen a fight in my childhood or teens on that scale . I'm not saying it didn't happen ,but I've never seen the family get involved including the bliddy parents!!! .

[Cherie]

Also if we take the race out of it and put that to the side on both ends , even if the quarrel is between 1 gypsy girl and 1 black girl ...why did the entire traveller family feel the need to get involved including the mother egging it on..... What a good example :suspect: :crazy: .

Usually when school fights happen it's 1 on 1 , yes gangs bully one person... usually name calling etc or little pushes here and there . But in all my life ....I don't think I've ever seen a fight in my childhood or teens on that scale . I'm not saying it didn't happen ,but I've never seen the family get involved including the bliddy parents!!! .

I haven’t condoned this attack at any point...:shrug:

[Oliver_W]

...why did the entire traveller family feel the need to get involved including the mother egging it on.....
I'm going to delicately suggest you haven't really seen much of travelers when they're angered ...

[GoldHeart]

I haven’t condoned this attack at any point...:shrug:

Cherie ....I never heard anything about a disabled child :conf::suspect: . Also are they saying the disabled child is fighting in the video or off camera?? ...I'm confused. You say it's a 'revenge' attack ,is she watching her beloved family kick a girl's head in ...all in the name of ' defending her ' ??. I'm not convinced.

[GoldHeart]

I'm going to delicately suggest you haven't really seen much of travelers when they're angered ...

Actually I have ! , Doesn't do them any favours to behave in that manner.

[Cherie]

Cherie ....I never heard anything about a disabled child :conf::suspect: . Also are they saying the disabled child is fighting in the video or off camera?? ...I'm confused. You say it's a 'revenge' attack ,is she watching her beloved family kick a girl's head in ...all in the name of ' defending her ' ??. I'm not convinced.

No I said the Mum said something about Downs Syndrome in the video anyway lets leave it there I am not convinced it is a racist attack, you are ...so never the twain shall meet

[GoldHeart]

No I said the Mum said something about Downs Syndrome in the video anyway lets leave it there I am not convinced it is a racist attack, you are ...so never the twain shall meet

All I said was just because they're travellers it doesn't mean they can't be racist. But ok .

[Oliver_W]

All I said was just because they're travellers it doesn't mean they can't be racist. But ok .

And the only thing that suggests they were racially motivated was the race of their victim :shrug: nothing else whatsoever supports the idea.

[Liam-]

I love that there are people, that accuse people out there of trying to see racism in everything, who are the very same people who try their very hardest, to excuse or diminish racism wherever it is, it’s an astonishing amount of mental gymnastics, was this racism? We don’t know yet, they’ve been arrested for racially aggravated gbh, an investigation will happen, but for people to just outright deny any existence of a racial element in something, without any hesitation, just because they don’t want it to be racist, is really very weird to me

[Oliver_W]

I love that there are people, that accuse people out there of trying to see racism in everything, who are the very same people who try their very hardest, to excuse or diminish racism wherever it is, it’s an astonishing amount of mental gymnastics, was this racism? We don’t know yet, they’ve been arrested for racially aggravated gbh, an investigation will happen, but for people to just outright deny any existence of a racial element in something, without any hesitation, just because they don’t want it to be racist, is really very weird to me
Or maybe it's simply that there's presently no reason to think it was a racist attack.

[AnnieK]

Or maybe it's simply that there's presently no reason to think it was a racist attack.

Apart from the fact that the attack has been described by police as racially aggravated, there is no evidence from the video. I would hope that the Police wouldn't have said "racially aggravated" if there was no element of racism as it would incite further violence :shrug:

I would imagine the Police have more evidence than just the released video (or you would hope so anyway)

[GoldHeart]

Apart from the fact that the attack has been described by police as racially aggravated, there is no evidence from the video. I would hope that the Police wouldn't have said "racially aggravated" if there was no element of racism as it would incite further violence :shrug:

I would imagine the Police have more evidence than just the released video (or you would hope so anyway)

That's my take on it aswell, I don't just go by what the media says.

[Oliver_W]

Apart from the fact that the attack has been described by police as racially aggravated, there is no evidence from the video. I would hope that the Police wouldn't have said "racially aggravated" if there was no element of racism as it would incite further violence :shrug:

I would imagine the Police have more evidence than just the released video (or you would hope so anyway)
Because the police always get it right.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would imagine the Police have more evidence than just the released video (or you would hope so anyway)

I read that they now think the black girl who got attacked fell into a local river

[Cherie]

All I said was just because they're travellers it doesn't mean they can't be racist. But ok .

Again I never said travellers can't be racist I just dont happen to think this attack was ....

[Mystic Mock]

Jeez... Have none of you been to secondary school? Mine was ****ing brutal. Maybe I was unlucky but I remember secondary school was a terrifying place where bullies rule d the roost. A fight like this was commonplace... Only we didn't make everything about race... Because white kids were the minority.

Schools shouldn't be encouraging bullying to take place, regardless of the motivation.

And I'm speaking from personal experience as I remember that the Primary School that I went to would reward bullies with day trips out.:umm2:

So I've definitely been apart of messed up Schools before.

[Beso]

How do we know though for sure ?..... obviously the media will assume it is as the headline always does that , but I think these kids are probably bullying everyone in their school. And people are saying this is 'common in schools' ....but how many jump 1 person with the mother cheering & egging them on .... Whilst it's being filmed??. Wasn't this after school aswell, imagine you're going home and you get jumped by a bunch of kids from your school .



We can assume it's because the black girl was a bully, because one of the girls tells her this is for bullying (insert name) At nompomt did anyone use the N word or refer to her skin colour.

Ain't it a shame when a bully gets bullied..no, no it's not.

[Mystic Mock]

If I'm attacked, no one automatically assumes it's because I'm Jewish. Yet this is a racially motivated attack because the girl is black.

I get what you're saying.

But for the Police to say that it's a "racially aggravated assault" means that they must have information that hasn't been leaked to the public yet.

[Beso]

I am not condoning it I just think from the footage I have sent that it is some sort of revenge attack rather than a race element, I mean they are travellers they suffer more racist abuse than most

Well said cherie.

[Beso]

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

I knew this would happen = "oh they're travellers so they suffer racist abuse " :bored: ( is that supposed to make it less awful? ) .... If anything that makes it worse !!! as they should know what it's like to be treated like that . funny thing is these same gypsies will probably cry when they get racist abuse ...yet they think it's ok to racially abuse others.

It's hypocrisy at it's best , why don't they learn to read and write instead of fighting... so many of these kids can't even spell yet they they can swear and be vile and attack other kids.



Please quote the racist abuse you hear in the video.

[Crimson Dynamo]

One woman was filmed coaching the young mob to 'kick her in the face', 'get
her' and 'down her'. The victim's family claims she was attacked for standing up
for a friend who she claims was being bullied by the attackers.


Her cousin claims the girl, who hasn't been named, received 'racial' voice
notes before the attack warning they planned to ‘drag her hair out’ and 'leave
her on the side of the road'.

Yesterday, just hours after the video went viral, dozens of demonstrators,
many from London, visited the school, led by activists from the protest group
Forever Family.

The activists, dressed in what appeared to be stab vests with paramilitary-
style uniforms, held hands and were chanting: 'You touch one, you touch all'
before some shouted at school staff who came to speak to them. :rolleyes:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731975/Angry-protestors-gather-outside-Thomas-Knyvett-school-racist-attack-black-girl.html

[Cherie]

We can assume it's because the black girl was a bully, because one of the girls tells her this is for bullying (insert name) At nompomt did anyone use the N word or refer to her skin colour.

Ain't it a shame when a bully gets bullied..no, no it's not.

can you hear something about Down Syndrome just before the fight is stopped?she calls her a spas...dont want to say that word surprised I could type it out....but there was a mention of Downs before that?

[Beso]

can you hear something about Down Syndrome just before the fight is stopped?she calls her a spas...dont want to say that word surprised I could type it out....but there was a mention of Downs before that?



I did here that, It sounded like the mother

[Cherie]

I did here that, It sounded like the mother

yes it was the mother said it but I dont know if it in relation to the fight

[Glenn.]

If the usual suspects are claiming it isn’t racist I’m gonna have a guess and say it is. Poor girl. Hope the scumbags get prison time. No room on the streets for that kind of hatred.

[GoldHeart]

Please quote the racist abuse you hear in the video.

Are you deliberately ignoring what I say or just playing dumb ?? , I never said I heard racist abuse in the video itself. I said off camera ... racist stuff could have been said maybe even from both sides . And they knew they were being filmed anyway,so they're not going to blurt it out in the video itself.

If the police are saying it's 'racially aggravated' ,that tells me there's some form of evidence .

[Kazanne]

Maybe the girl that was attacked had been bullying the downs syndrom child , in thatcase you would be livid,but it cant be solved by violence,seems to me it was people trying to protect their own,Bullying is never nice but there is a massive amount of it around.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe the girl that was attacked had been bullying the downs syndrom child , in thatcase you would be livid,but it cant be solved by violence,seems to me it was people trying to protect their own,Bullying is never nice but there is a massive amount of it around.

yes i think you may be right

[Beso]

Are you deliberately ignoring what I say or just playing dumb ?? , I never said I heard racist abuse in the video itself. I said off camera ... racist stuff could have been said maybe even from both sides . And they knew they were being filmed anyway,so they're not going to blurt it out in the video itself.

If the police are saying it's 'racially aggravated' ,that tells me there's some form of evidence .



You are a living contradiction, going on about racism being unacceptable whilst calling travellers gypsies.

You have went from saying its a confirmed racial attack to saying it could have been racial from both sides.

[GoldHeart]

You are a living contradiction, going on about racism being unacceptable whilst calling travellers gypsies.

You have went from saying its a confirmed racial attack to saying it could have been racial from both sides.

Oh so now it's wrong to say gypsies??? :joker: ... gypsies themselves say gypsy , aswell as traveller.

I guess you also think it's offensive to say 'siamese twins' , don't forget to say conjoined twins instead .

Imagine acting like being PC is important .... whilst expecting to hear racist slurs like the N word in a video with bullies.

I said both the black girl and the traveller girl could have been racist towards eachother, how is that a contradiction??? .

[Alf]

I don't know what you're all arguing about.

Gypsies have always been that way, I don't think skin colour comes into it, gypsies have always fought with anyone.

The gypsy mother is the only person that needs to be investigated here. She was the adult and she was the one encouraging her children. The others are just kids listening to their mother.

The girl put up a good fight considering there was three or four of them onto her.

I think the Police and social services should investigate the mother. But I don't know if the social services have the bottle to take on the gypsy community.

[Beso]

Oh so now it's wrong to say gypsies??? :joker: ... gypsies themselves say gypsy , aswell as traveller.

I guess you also think it's offensive to say 'siamese twins' , don't forget to say conjoined twins instead .

Imagine acting like being PC is important .... whilst expecting to hear racist slurs like the N word in a video with bullies.

I said both the black girl and the traveller girl could have been racist towards eachother, how is that a contradiction??? .



You dont even know if they are travellers fgs. You just assumed they were because of their accents...pretty racist itself imo.

[Beso]

I don't know what you're all arguing about.

Gypsies have always been that way, I don't think skin colour comes into it, gypsies have always fought with anyone.

The gypsy mother is the only person that needs to be investigated here. She was the adult and she was the one encouraging her children. The others are just kids listening to their mother.

The girl put up a good fight considering there was three or four of them onto her.

I think the Police and social services should investigate the mother. But I don't know if the social services have the bottle to take on the gypsy community.

And you dont know either.

[Alf]

And you dont know either.But having a brain pretty much confirms it to me.

[Beso]

Ps, travellers do not refer to themselves as gypsies.

[Alf]

You dont even know if they are travellers fgs. You just assumed they were because of their accents...pretty racist itself imo.What's racist about identifying someone from their accent?

Get a grip.

[GoldHeart]

Ps, travellers do not refer to themselves as gypsies.

Now you're LYING!

[Alf]

Ps, travellers do not refer to themselves as gypsies.Tough sh!t. They don't dictate what I can and can't identify people as. They just don't have that power over me and never will.

[Beso]

Now you're LYING!

Am I?

Shows just how much you know about the subject.:joker:

[Beso]

Tough sh!t. They don't dictate what I can and can't identify people as. They just don't have that power over me and never will.

You wouldnt be saying that to them directly....that's my guess on where you are at in life.

[Alf]

You wouldnt be saying that to them directly....that's my guess on where you are at in life.Why, what would they do if I did?

[Beso]

Why, what would they do if I did?

Try it if you think it's fine.

[Alf]

Try it if you think it's fine.They didn't do anything to Channel 4 when they made a programme about their community and called the programme "My big fat GYPSY wedding"

[GoldHeart]

They didn't do anything to Channel 4 when they made a programme about their community and called the programme "My big fat GYPSY wedding"

Exactly :joker:

[Beso]

They didn't do anything to Channel 4 when they made a programme about their community and called the programme "My big fat GYPSY wedding"

https://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news/2013/11/traveller-movement-fury-big-fat-gypsy-wedding-complaint-thrown-out-ofcom



You are wrong.

[Beso]

Exactly :joker:

And so are you.

[Beso]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/aug/23/big-fat-gypsy-wedding-axed#:~:text=The%20London%20Gypsy%20and%20Travelle r,show%20was%20offensive%20and%20racist.

[GoldHeart]

And so are you.

You're more bothered about the correct term for gypsies & travellers....than what actually happened. I had a feeling something daft like this would happen.

They call themselves gypsies , I have heard them . There's more offensive words which they've said they don't like. You never kicked up a fuss about other communities of people...all of a sudden you're a SJW for the traveller community
Good job ! .

[Alf]

https://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news/2013/11/traveller-movement-fury-big-fat-gypsy-wedding-complaint-thrown-out-ofcom



You are wrong.The complaints were not because of the word "Gypsy"

Infact the person who wrote that article uses the word "Gypsy" a few times themself.

Your argument was that the word "gypsy" is offensive.

[Beso]

The complaints were not because of the word "Gypsy"

Infact the person who wrote that article uses the word "Gypsy" a few times themself.

Your argument was that the word "gypsy" is offensive.

It is when used negatively by outsiders, which has been done time and time again by outsiders in this thread.

To travellers not of roma decent it is offensive. It has been reclaimed by the gypsy communities of roma decent in the same way the n word has been by blacks.

Research it, its quite interesting.

[GoldHeart]

It is when used negatively by outsiders, which has been done time and time again by outsiders in this thread.

To travellers not of roma decent it is offensive. It has been reclaimed by the gypsy communities of roma decent in the same way the n word has been by blacks.

Research it, its quite interesting.

Now you're comparing it to the N word :joker: ... I just can't.

[Beso]

Moe you're comparing it to the N word :joker: ... I just can't.

All that happened in that video for me is a bully got what they deserved.

Also I'm not comparing it to anything, I'm stating a fact about the word gypsy and what the roma community have done with it.

Forgive me, how dare I stand with the travelling community on a tibb forum..like I said. Do some research and you might be less ignorant and derogatory towards that community.

[GoldHeart]

All that happened in that video for me is a bully got what they deserved.

Also I'm not comparing it to anything, I'm stating a fact about the word gypsy and what the roma community have done with it.

Forgive me, how dare I stand with the travelling community on a tibb forum..like I said. Do some research and you might be less ignorant and derogatory towards that community.

I'm sure the traveller community will thank you for your SJW care :hee: .

[Beso]

I'm sure the traveller community will thank you for your SJW care :hee: .

Yeah, they usually do when I'm round.

[Beso]

Goldheart. Is niamh a gypsy?

[Cherie]

I'm sure the traveller community will thank you for your SJW care :hee: .

No different to any other community being defended is it?

[Niamh.]

Tyson Fury literally calls himself The Gypsy King and he's not Roma. he's of Irish traveller decent and no I'm not a traveller or a gypsy Parm

[GoldHeart]

Yeah, they usually do when I'm round.

Are they the same ones you shouted at in your recorded video , as you provoked them re: 'hurting someone' . Did you have fun hiding behind a car ?:hee: .

[GoldHeart]

Goldheart. Is niamh a gypsy?

Why just because she's Irish??.
Who's being racist now :whistle: .

[Cherie]

Goldheart. Is niamh a gypsy?

where are you going with this one Parm :worry:

[Glenn.]

https://i.ibb.co/RNS0H0f/69172300-B210-44-EB-BAA5-D87566-A8-AABD.gif

[Beso]

Why just because she's Irish??.
Who's being racist now :whistle: .

Because shes got an irish accent....would she be a gypsy because of that in your book?

Or is it just the people in the video?

[Beso]

Tyson Fury literally calls himself The Gypsy King and he's not Roma. he's of Irish traveller decent and no I'm not a traveller or a gypsy Parm

Hes a traveller though, and they are reclaiming the word for themselves like blacks have with the n word...did you miss that part?

[Beso]

Are they the same ones you shouted at in your recorded video , as you provoked them re: 'hurting someone' . Did you have fun hiding behind a car ?:hee: .

Please forgive me for hearing a girl scream at 1.30 in the morning when I was walking home, and please I beg your forgiveness for shouting loudly to scare anyone hurting the girl away...and no, I wasn't behind or underneath a car..I was behind a fence, hiding from 4 would or could be assailants.

Next time I shall let any potential rape just happen and merrily make my way home in peace.

Your moral compass is fuxked btw... liam was correct in that when he called you out on it.

[GoldHeart]

Please forgive me for hearing a girl scream at 1.30 in the morning when I was walking home, and please I beg your forgiveness for shouting loudly to scare anyone hurting the girl away...and no, I wasn't behind or underneath a car..I was behind a fence, hiding from 4 would or could be assailants.

Next time I shall let any potential rape just happen and merrily make my way home in peace.

Your moral compass is fuxked btw... liam was correct in that when he called you out on it.

I distinctly remember you saying you hid or something...either way you hid somewhere . You don't even know me Parm ...so don't ever talk about my moral compass. And don't start bringing Liam into this.

And I barely heard a scream in the video,but I hear you constantly shouting & provoking a group of strangers in the far distance , like you were looking for a fight.

Stop trying to twist this into you being a good citizen looking out for someone's well being, you can't even see what's happening. Plus you ran away in the end . So if a crime had been committed...do you think that solved it ?.

Anyway I'm done arguing with you .

[Redway]

Whatever race does it doesn’t have to do with this is neither here nor there, let’s be honest about this. Poor girl.

[Redway]

If I'm attacked, no one automatically assumes it's because I'm Jewish. Yet this is a racially motivated attack because the girl is black.

I can’t really disagree (and attacks like that are horrible regardless). If this was Wrexham or Hull I’d be way, way more inherently worried about possible racist incitement but this is basically south London. If anything where people are the minority there.

[Alf]

I can’t really disagree (and attacks like that are horrible regardless). If this was Wrexham or Hull I’d be way, way more inherently worried about possible racist incitement but this is basically south London. If anything where people are the minority there.Hull? The city of Wilberforce? A left wing stronghold for years and years? An iconic fishing port that has had people from all over the World coming and going for years and years?

Tell me you know nothing about Hull without telling me you know nothing about Hull.

[Redway]

Hull? The city of Wilberforce? A left wing stronghold for years and years? An iconic fishing port that has had people from all over the World coming and going for years and years?

Tell me you know nothing about Hull without telling me you know nothing about Hull.

The only people who’ll defend Hull are the people from there. Sorry, Alf.

[Alf]

The only people who’ll defend Hull are the people from there. Sorry, Alf.And what sh!t hole are you from?

[Redway]

You don’t have to come up with a counter-defence to everything. It’s nothing personal.

[Swan]

You don’t have to come up with a counter-defence to everything. It’s nothing personal.

It was kinda ironic of you to assume "if it were people from Hull" you could be believe it was more racially motivated. It falls into the "every black man who drives a BMW must be a drug dealer" ignorant assumption.

[Redway]

It was kinda ironic of you to assume "if it were people from Hull" you could be believe it was more racially motivated. It falls into the "every black man who drives a BMW must be a drug dealer" ignorant assumption.

But the truth is that certain parts of England are more overtly racist than others and likely to have racially-motivated attacks going on (not that it’s nearly as big a thing these days as it would’ve back then). Doesn’t mean everyone from Hull, Cumbria, Bootle or Plymouth is racist but compared to Croydon or Toxteth the ones who are are far more likely to get away with being open about it.

[Beso]

I distinctly remember you saying you hid or something...either way you hid somewhere . You don't even know me Parm ...so don't ever talk about my moral compass. And don't start bringing Liam into this.

And I barely heard a scream in the video,but I hear you constantly shouting & provoking a group of strangers in the far distance , like you were looking for a fight.

Stop trying to twist this into you being a good citizen looking out for someone's well being, you can't even see what's happening. Plus you ran away in the end . So if a crime had been committed...do you think that solved it ?.

Anyway I'm done arguing with you .


Have you even stopped to think I started recording after a scream was heard...like I said though, next time I will just walk on by.

[arista]

MP's now debating this case.

Leader of the House Penny Mordaunt
has stated let the Police Investigation run its course..............

[arista]

Ch5HDnews

Stated the 5 Arrested
are now banned by Police
from Surrey

[Cherie]

Ch5HDnews

Stated the 5 Arrested
are now banned by Police
from Surrey


banned from the county? never heard that one before

[Crimson Dynamo]

MP's now debating this case.

Leader of the House Penny Mordaunt
has stated let the Police Investigation run its course..............

MPs debating a playground hairpulling session?

f me the world has gone mad


:shrug:

[arista]

banned from the county? never heard that one before


Yes,
Police have banned all 5
from the Whole of Surrey.

[Beso]

Yes,
Police have banned all 5
from the Whole of Surrey.

How they going to attend any court case?

[bots]

i don't think people can be banned from a county, no judge would allow it, and certainly not for a minor fight

[Redway]

i don't think people can be banned from a county, no judge would allow it, and certainly not for a minor fight

Shamima was banned and cancelled four years ago.

[bots]

Shamima was banned and cancelled four years ago.

yeah, they are clearly identical cases :laugh:

[Redway]

yeah, they are clearly identical cases :laugh:

No but the point is people can be banned, especially when they’re gypsies in the first place.

[Beso]

No but the point is people can be banned, especially when they’re gypsies in the first place.

Shamima wasnt a gypsie!

[bots]

No but the point is people can be banned, especially when they’re gypsies in the first place.

this is at county level, the terrorist lost her british citizenship, not in any way similar

[Mystic Mock]

It was kinda ironic of you to assume "if it were people from Hull" you could be believe it was more racially motivated. It falls into the "every black man who drives a BMW must be a drug dealer" ignorant assumption.

You mean the black people who own a BMW aren't Drug Dealers and Gangsters?:omgno:

GTA taught me wrong all of these years.:fist::joker:

Seriously though it's nice to see that it's not Birmingham getting the bad rep for a change.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

i don't think people can be banned from a county, no judge would allow it, and certainly not for a minor fight

I suppose it would depend on the details of the case that haven't been made public.

[GoldHeart]

i don't think people can be banned from a county, no judge would allow it, and certainly not for a minor fight

I don't know if anyone remembers ... but there was a reality tv show quite a few years ago set in the UK in a bunker , and contestants had to nominate eachother to win a money prize. Anyway through the process....personal secrets and stuff were revealed about some of the contestants.

And to cut a long story short someone on there was banned from her home town or something , but i've no idea what the reason was:conf:...but i kept thinking it must have been something really bad or scandalous !! , to actually get banned from a town that is serious !.

[arista]

How they going to attend any court case?


Is there going to be a Court case?

[arista]

[Family 'at centre of Surrey school race attack'
are branded 'neighbours from hell'
who have 'gone into hiding'
since images of shock incident
appeared online


The five suspects have been banned from Surrey
while police urge a further teenager, 15, to hand
herself in.

A 15-year-old black schoolgirl was
viciously attacked outside a school in Surrey.

Protestors have called for the headteacher to resign
for not intervening sooner
The family in Stanwell has been described
by neighbours as intimidating


On Friday, Chief Inspector Dallas McDermott
of Surrey Police
described the incident as 'disturbing' and said
he is 'disappointed' with the reaction
of the public in the video.

In the footage, the attack went on
for several minutes with members of
the public watching on before
anyone intervened.

In the video, one woman was filmed
coaching the young mob to 'kick her in the face',
'get her' and 'down her'.
The victim's family claims she was attacked
for standing up for a friend who she claims
was being bullied by the attackers.
Her cousin claims the girl,
who hasn't been named,
received 'racial' voice notes before
the attack warning they planned to
'drag her hair out' and
'leave her on the side of the road'.

It comes as a Change.org petition
calling for the school's headteacher to be sacked
is fast reaching 100,000 signatures,
amid mounting fury from black rights
groups and community leaders.

Furious protestors who held a rally outside
Thomas Knyvett College in Ashford, Surrey,
on Wednesday later marched to the
family address less than two miles away in Stanwell.

Eyewitnesses said one angry demonstrator
tried to kick down the front door of the
property during heated scenes.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/10/16/67555195-11736909-image-a-5_1676045826993.jpg
[Mr. R. Fyahbingh from For Ever Family
speaks outside Thomas Knyvett College
in Ashford, Surrey,
following a 'racist' attack against
a black schoolgirl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11737381/Family-centre-Surrey-school-race-attack-branded-neighbours-hell.html

[Oliver_W]

But the truth is that certain parts of England are more overtly racist than others and likely to have racially-motivated attacks going on (not that it’s nearly as big a thing these days as it would’ve back then). Doesn’t mean everyone from Hull, Cumbria, Bootle or Plymouth is racist but compared to Croydon or Toxteth the ones who are are far more likely to get away with being open about it.
Blud, Hull just wasn't a good example to use :joker:

If you're unsure about something, be nonspecific. "A white Northern working class town"

[Redway]

Blud, Hull just wasn't a good example to use :joker:

If you're unsure about something, be nonspecific. "A white Northern working class town"

I know Hull gets enough stick already but come on. Tell me I’m lying.

[Oliver_W]

I know Hull gets enough stick already but come on. Tell me I’m lying.

Make fun of it for valid reasons - being a random example of Racist Little England ain't one of them.