You get what you pay for - £ndemol cheap out again

[spacebandit]

So instead of hiring a real australian actor, not liable to be recognised - they hire someone who has appeared on C4 amongst other things and is liable to be recognised - in fact either already has been or will be before the week is out, you cannot keep up an accent 24/7 for a whole week - it is impossible.

Talk about a cheap load of reproductive globes.

Pathetic

and next weeks fake eviction - yep looks like £ndemol have been assessing the HM's moods in the private DR sessions and already have a pretty good idea who is going to be up next week - hence the "fake" week

Risible and Insulting

[Matt]

I agree. They could have at least found an Australian actress.

[cgimusic]

Well that's what £ndemol is for. Making $$$.

[mozzymozmoz]

well, thats the fun that she wont be able to keep her acvcent, the task is to see if they can guess if she is an actor =]

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by mozzymozmoz
well, thats the fun that she wont be able to keep her acvcent, the task is to see if they can guess if she is an actor =]

Thats like playing blind mans bluff with no blindfold in a lit room.

The quality of the actor isn't a factor, the could be the worst actor in the world - so why not hire an Australian - no problem with the accent which in this scenario is all that matters, hence more of a "game".

This only proves, not that proof were needed, that this series and entertainment are strangers

[rooterwar]

Originally posted by spacebandit
So instead of hiring a real australian actor, not liable to be recognised - they hire someone who has appeared on C4 amongst other things and is liable to be recognised - in fact either already has been or will be before the week is out, you cannot keep up an accent 24/7 for a whole week - it is impossible.





Isn't that the whole point! if they got someone from OZ who was not known at all in the UK, where is the challenge/risk? if we all knew she would definately never be caught out then would it be worth watching?:puzzled: go with it and enjoy :cheer:

[the_chosen_one]

Well that's one way of looking at it, but who's to say the producers don't want the housemates questioning everything. They've already started building extra rooms after the show started, probably so that the housemates talk and question the things going on around them, and like in this scenario, the fact that this actress has maybe met some of the housemates before could only serve to increase the amounts of paranoia even more, which in turn can get the housemates doubting their own judgement or even sanity. I can accept there's a chance that the producers have been cheap and lazy by hiring a channel 4 employee, but I'd be more inclined to believe this sort of risk is something that they encourage. The shows about controversies, twists, secrets and mind games, so if you think about it, it's quite a good thing that the housemates could 'smell a rat' because they might counter the move from Big Brother with tactics of thier own, which will work out best for the viewers. Do we really want to see them all thinking they're talking to a real Australian? I'd have thought that would get a bit boring after the first day....

It's next weeks eviction I'm looking forward to - probably when Charley (or someone with a good reputation) goes back in after an interview - that's something the haters can all complain about too! :thumbs2:

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by wobblywoo
Originally posted by spacebandit
So instead of hiring a real australian actor, not liable to be recognised - they hire someone who has appeared on C4 amongst other things and is liable to be recognised - in fact either already has been or will be before the week is out, you cannot keep up an accent 24/7 for a whole week - it is impossible.





Isn't that the whole point! if they got someone from OZ who was not known at all in the UK, where is the challenge/risk? if we all knew she would definately never be caught out then would it be worth watching?:puzzled: go with it and enjoy :cheer:

OK then - it seems the "game" has lasted all of about 5 minutes because the chosen actor was too familiar - the game is up bar the shouting, what do they do for the next 10,000 ?

[GlitterEyes]

I think they actually want her to be found out thats why they picked someone like her.

[cgimusic]

She is in all the programs that are aimed at the sort of people the housemates are. A bit too obvious imo.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by spacebandit
So instead of hiring a real australian actor, not liable to be recognised - they hire someone who has appeared on C4 amongst other things and is liable to be recognised - in fact either already has been or will be before the week is out, you cannot keep up an accent 24/7 for a whole week - it is impossible.

Talk about a cheap load of reproductive globes.

Pathetic

and next weeks fake eviction - yep looks like £ndemol have been assessing the HM's moods in the private DR sessions and already have a pretty good idea who is going to be up next week - hence the "fake" week

Risible and Insulting

It's a twist and something quite different and unexpected too.

If she was simply a housemate from BBAU, then it would be something unusual, but this new angle of bringing in an actress, is very much like Chantelle really:bigsmile:

Also, many standard housemates may resemble a Celebrity, that is naturally quite possible.

The new twist will be well thought out and the Celebrity going into the BB house, will be quite good at faking the Aussie accent and also, very good at acting her way into this week of Fake twists & turns.

This will really fool the housemates and after the week is over, the Housemates will be very wary of what is to come in the future, as trust is lost & the show must go on, but is it real or is it fake? That is the question, says Shakespeare :laugh::laugh:

Endemol have kindly spent an extra 100 grand remember.

Liam get's 100 grand and so does the real winner, who may think that there will be no money.

They don't spend money like that lightly....

The fake-eviction will be funny. Charley goes out, then goes back in. Just when we all thought that she is going.

Oh dear, she will be back before we all know it:thumbs2:







nodisharmony :angel:

[geoking66]

I like it, not only do the housemates have a challenge, but so does the actress. What does an actor do? They ACT a part that they need to play.

[Rory]

This week is Fake week, so a part of it is her Fake Accent.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by spacebandit
you cannot keep up an accent 24/7 for a whole week - it is impossible.

looks like £ndemol

have been assessing the HM's moods in the private DR sessions

and already have a pretty good idea who is going to be up next week

Risible and Insulting
People have managed it before. 'Ordinary' people too, rather than trained actors. It's been done umpteen times during wartime, by police forces to infiltrate gangs, etc. Okay, she's not likely to have had anything like the intensity of preparation that they had. But she has her acting experience, an automatic get-out clause for certain things by simply saying that she's not allowed to discuss whatever it may be, and she can always be called to the diary room as a last resort. She could also say that her parents are British and that they emigrated when she was younger, which would cover her if her accent happened to slip. Even if she was recognised and placed by one of the hm's, it still doesn't automatically follow that her cover is blown. When Becki entered the house during BB5, Dan recognised her from his audition/s. Yet when she walked in and launched into her spiel about being Italian, he was drawn in straight away, just like the rest of the hm's.

This whole '£ndemol' thing is really tiresome. They're a production company, not a television network. They can suggest whatever they want, but Channel 4 decide what makes the final cut, regardless of what Endemol may want.

Since when have the diary room sessions been anything other than private? (Except during certain tasks/punishments, of course).

I don't see how that automatically suggests anything? The most obvious thing would be so that they can tailor aspects of the (fake) eviction process to fit the most likely candidate, which would only make the whole thing even better.

That's generally how I interpret any posts that suggest I/we need a guide to steer us through the experience, to tell us who we can or can't like or want to keep or evict, etc. And it's also how I interpret posts that are all doom and gloom and imply that I/we are somehow being manipulated and deceived, yet haven't got the basic intelligence to realise. After all, it begs the question why bother to watch something you clearly view with extreme scepticism (to say the least) so avidly? Why bother to air your grievances in the very place where you stand the least chance of anyone taking what you say on board? And ultimately, why not just turn off?

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
After all, it begs the question why bother to watch something you clearly view with extreme scepticism (to say the least) so avidly? Why bother to air your grievances in the very place where you stand the least chance of anyone taking what you say on board? And ultimately, why not just turn off?

Why bother to keep going to see a football team who lose 10 matches in a row ?

Why bother replying if you cannot stand a contrary opinion or another view ?

Ultimately why not just point your mouse elsewhere ?

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by spacebandit

Why bother to keep going to see a football team who lose 10 matches in a row ?


Because they need the support more than a team who win 10 matches in a row? Also, supporting a football team isn't necessarily about results.

Originally posted by spacebandit

Why bother replying if you cannot stand a contrary opinion or another view ?

Ultimately why not just point your mouse elsewhere ?

Why start a topic if you dont want replies?

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by spacebandit

Why bother to keep going to see a football team who lose 10 matches in a row ?


Because they need the support more than a team who win 10 matches in a row? Also, football isn't necessarily about results.

Originally posted by spacebandit

Why bother replying if you cannot stand a contrary opinion or another view ?

Ultimately why not just point your mouse elsewhere ?

Why start a topic if you dont want replies?

Where did I say I don't want replies ?

I answered a post basically saying I shouldn't have bothered posting my opinions - or didn't you read that far ?

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by spacebandit
I answered a post basically saying I shouldn't have bothered posting my opinions - or didn't you read that far ?

If you'd bothered reading it properly, even just the small portion you quoted - if you're so adverse to context, it asked the question why you complain in an area where you're not going to gain much of a sympathising crowd (a BB fan forum), and the chief sentiment was why don't you just turn off the show if it's not to your viewing satisfaction.

I would certainly not take it to mean you shouldnt bother posting your opinions, and even if it did, it's a fair point, seeing as you can't respond to any of the better arguments in that post, or in the thread, which contest your original opinion.

Anyhow, with that issue not really being my business, my only real concern was your irrelative football analogy.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Anyhow, with that issue not really being my business, my only real concern was your irrelative football analogy.

Actually my football analogy was very relevant.

Your reply was a conceit, like most of the replies to my original post, not suprising considering the level of discourse against anyone not finding this season of BB a thrill fest - the simple and true answer to the football question is : Because you are a fan.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Anyhow, with that issue not really being my business, my only real concern was your irrelative football analogy.

Actually my football analogy was very relevant.

Your reply was a conceit, like most of the replies to my original post, not suprising considering the level of discourse against anyone not finding this season of BB a thrill fest - the simple and true answer to the football question is : Because you are a fan.

I see. Well for the analogy to apply to you personally, which is how the preceding question was directed, would mean you watch just about every episode possible of Big Brother being such a devoted fan and all, but the impression you give in alot of your posts is somewhat the opposite. I seem to recall you saying you've not been watching some of the series. Whatever the case may be on that front, let me tell you, there is a much stronger "critic" sentiment to your opinions than that of a "fanatic". Just the fact that you find it "Risible and Insulting" that the company decided to employ an English actress (who's appeared on Channel 4 before) for the role of 'Pauline' suggests that it doesn't take much for you to view the production with complete disdain at the most meagre opportunity. Unlikely sentiments from a supposed "fanatic". Still, there are cynical football fans amongst the positive ones, so maybe you are just one of the elite cynics masquerading as a "fan".

As for your claim of conceit, well I think you also have displayed that quite well here (predominently, actually) in that contest to every single relevant point to your opening post has been shirked with a preference to talk trivial tangents with whichever individual might take them up, so with me being one of them, I'll decide to withdraw from this debate until you actually attempt to defend some of the points raised against the content you originally posted.

For the record, I have no issue with people who dislike the show or even complain about the show, so I'm not in your category of what you seem to consider "critic bullies" of some sort.

[GhettoSuperstar]

The whole point is that she is NOT Austrailian.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think they actually want her to be found out thats why they picked someone like her.

You are rught. Although they do not want her to be found out it is after all a task (With food the prize) and in fairness they have to give housemates a chance of winning by choosing the actress they have. Along with things she does or says to make them think she may not be real....

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by spacebandit
So instead of hiring a real australian actor, not liable to be recognised - they hire someone who has appeared on C4 amongst other things and is liable to be recognised - in fact either already has been or will be before the week is out, you cannot keep up an accent 24/7 for a whole week - it is impossible.

Talk about a cheap load of reproductive globes.

Pathetic

and next weeks fake eviction - yep looks like £ndemol have been assessing the HM's moods in the private DR sessions and already have a pretty good idea who is going to be up next week - hence the "fake" week

Risible and Insulting


I agree, it's pathetic and kind of stupid. Did they want her to be found out as soon as she walked through the door? I think a couple of the housemates knew straight away but chose to hide it for fear of looking stupid.

Why they didn't just get a real aussie bb housemate is beyond me. Failing that, just get any aussie and say they were in the other house. It wouldn't have been difficult.

I think this series will be remembered for the amount of times bb copped out.