Junior Doctors Demand 35% pay increase: 5 Day Strike

[arista]

Way too high
make it 20%

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You are Crazy Demanding 35%

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[A junior doctor holds a placard as she stands
at a picket line outside St Thomas' Hospital
in Westminster in London,
Monday, March 13, 2023.
Thousands of junior hospital doctors
are due to walk out for three days
starting Monday.
It follows strikes in recent months
by nurses and ambulance staff.
The NHS said it would prioritize
emergency care during the strike but
thousands of appointments
will be cancelled.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-11853855/UK-Tens-thousands-doctors-kick-3-day-strike.html



Sign Of The Times

[Parmy]

£14 per hour is more than enough for what they have to do.

Greedy bastards.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[joeysteele]

They'll never get that percentage but I think they should get a substantial new award

I'm 100% in support of the junior Doctors, all the way

[Alf]

DwbzxemJZIcI stuck around old London Town, when I saw it was a time for a change.
I killed the King and his ministers and young Katherine, screamed in vain.

Please to meet you, hope you guess my name.

[The Slim Reaper]

I stuck around old London Town, when I saw it was a time for a change.
I killed the King and his ministers and young Katherine, screamed in vain.

Please to meet you, hope you guess my name.

But what's puzzling you, is the name of harrys dad?

[Alf]

But what's puzzling you, is the name of harrys dad?:laugh: very good

[Parmy]

DwbzxemJZIc

I doubt there is any other organisation who have treated immigrants as chess pieces. Fighting for their rights when they are needed for the current social climate, and downright refusing them any rights when they are not.

[user104658]

£14 per hour is more than enough for what they have to do.

Greedy bastards.

I wouldn't get out of bed for £14 an hour and - I'm just ging to be honest here, you won't believe it probably - I don't think I work as hard as most doctors.

Like today I mostly listened to spotify and posted on here. Did a couple of emails. One 45 minute Teams meeting. :umm2:.

They obviously deserve paid more.

[The Slim Reaper]

I doubt there is any other organisation who have treated immigrants as chess pieces. Fighting for their rights when they are needed for the current social climate, and downright refusing them any rights when they are not.

What does this mean, exactly?

[Parmy]

What does this mean, exactly?




https://comparativemigrationstudies.springeropen.com/articles/10.1007/s40878-015-0003-x

[Parmy]

I wouldn't get out of bed for £14 an hour and - I'm just ging to be honest here, you won't believe it probably - I don't think I work as hard as most doctors.

Like today I mostly listened to spotify and posted on here. Did a couple of emails. One 45 minute Teams meeting. :umm2:.

They obviously deserve paid more.


Maybe you deserve to be payed less...bridge the gap a bit.

[bots]

junior doctors are just not held in the same regard as nurses for some inexplicable reason, so they are starting with a big disadvantage. I think "people" just expect junior doctors to work for a pittance on extended shifts. The word junior doesn't help their cause either

[Crimson Dynamo]

my heart bleeds for them

poor souls

[arista]

SkyNews Text:
[GPs are suspending routine appointments
for up to a week to deal with the NHS strike
involving junior doctors]


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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

It's a scandal how the junior Doctors have been and still are being treated by this government.

Firstly by the atrocious Hunt when he was health secretary.

Now again here right now by Sunak's appointed waste of space health secretary.
I support them still 100%.

[bots]

35% is a joke though. Believe me, I have relied on these doctors, so i greatly appreciate them, but this increase is taking the piss

[joeysteele]

35% is a joke though. Believe me, I have relied on these doctors, so i greatly appreciate them, but this increase is taking the piss

I think they know it is an impossible reach.

However far better needs to be put on the table from this government
After the abuse of the junior Doctors near all through from this government.

[arista]

Labour has stated they can go that high, also.

So they will,
Strike, even if Labour will take power.

[Denver]

35% is a joke though. Believe me, I have relied on these doctors, so i greatly appreciate them, but this increase is taking the piss

You have politicians being paid more then them and still getting nice increases each year as well as all their bills paid, make it make sense? One saves lives the other destroys lives

[Crimson Dynamo]

You have politicians being paid more then them and still getting nice increases each year as well as all their bills paid, make it make sense? One saves lives the other destroys lives

so you would rather your Liverpool players stopped getting 500K a week and being paid less than a junior doctor?

[Denver]

so you would rather your Liverpool players stopped getting 500K a week and being paid less than a junior doctor?

The tax payers dont pay for footballers wages but they pay to heat up multiple homes if one politician

[joeysteele]

Labour has stated they can go that high, also.

So they will,
Strike, even if Labour will take power.

Because they're fed up of being taken for granted.

This is the 2nd MAJOR dispute in around the last 10 years with this arrogant and ignorant government.
Under 2 different hopeless Health secretary's.

If Labour didn't improve the pay offer considerably.
I'd support them striking against Labour too.

The junior Doctors don't want to strike.
They've been pushed way too far now twice by the Con governments.

[bots]

The tax payers dont pay for footballers wages but they pay to heat up multiple homes if one politician

liverpool were one of the only premier league clubs to grab the furlough cash from the government. That was tax payers money

[Denver]

liverpool were one of the only premier league clubs to grab the furlough cash from the government. That was tax payers money

And the fans were so against it they forced them to change their minds

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

MAJOR dispute

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[Crimson Dynamo]

The average annual NHS earnings of a junior doctor, including those working part-time, is
£55,420, with the full-time equivalent average salary hitting £57,118. Further, NHS
employer pension contributions are over 20 per cent, compared with an average of 6 per
cent in the private sector.

As to the argument that doctors graduate with up to £100,000 of debt, unlike
baristas or bartenders, that may well be correct, although most owe less.
And remember that the taxpayer doesn’t spend over £200,000 subsidising
the tuition, living costs and clinical placements of staff at Costa.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/junior-doctors-pay-demands-arent-
reasonable/#:~:text=The%20average%20annual%20NHS%20earnings,c ent
%20in%20the%20private%20sector.

[bots]

those figures mean nothing though LT. The junior doctors are striking for more, they dont think they are being paid enough, so something has to happen to resolve it, and it's going to be more money. The government need to get round the table and talk to them

[Crimson Dynamo]

those figures mean nothing though lt. The junior doctors are striking for more, they dont think they are being paid enough, so something has to happen to resolve it, and it's going to be more money. The government need to get round the table and talk to them

no the hard left unions have persuaded them of this i very much doubt they arrived at this conclusion by themselves

[bots]

no the hard left unions have persuaded them of this i very much doubt they arrived at this conclusion by themselves


it's been coming for years, the government cant act surprised

[user104658]

no the hard left unions have persuaded them of this i very much doubt they arrived at this conclusion by themselves

What an absolutely nonsensical statement -- they'd be getting paid more than double under a fully privatised system, and we would all be paying through the nose for healthcare (far more than we pay in taxes for the NHS). The idea that wanting more is greed driven by the left is just daft. Doctors are paid significantly more than in the UK in other countries.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry I couldn't join you on the picket line, I was too busy getting lipo: Glam,
rabble-rousing medical student, 26, who thinks junior doctors should get MORE
than a 35% pay rise missed 4-day strike to undergo cosmetic surgery


EXCLUSIVE: Eilidh Garrett had joined doctors on the picket line in March
But last week the 26-year-old underwent liposuction surgery
Last year she co-founded #LiveableNHSbursary for medical students


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A medical student and prolific campaigner for NHS strikes missed last week's
chaos — because she was recovering from liposuction.

Eilidh Garrett, who lives in Manchester, has spent months cheering on junior
doctors through her influential social media presence and attacked the
Government for its lack of 'moral decency', conduct during strike talks and
refusal to budge on pay.

The 26-year-old believes junior doctors deserve more than 35 per cent — the
huge sum being demanded by the British Medical Association (BMA).

Miss Garrett joined tens of thousands of young medics on the picket line
during the last walkout in March, which led to 175,000 procedures and
appointments being cancelled.

But MailOnline can reveal Miss Garrett, who has racked up millions of views
on her pro-strike Twitter posts, was unable to join colleagues during the four-
day strike last week.

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[arista]

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[arista]

[Junior doctors in England have announced
a new five-day walkout in
July - the longest yet - over pay.

The strike will take place between
07:00 on Thursday 13 July and 07:00 on Tuesday 18 July.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65998528


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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

A Young Doctor in London
said he is only paid £14 an Hour.

For London
that is not enough per hour.

The Jr. Doctors on Strike again today
goes on until Tuesday.

Some in the media are saying,
more will now Die?

[Crimson Dynamo]

A Young Doctor in London
said he is only paid £14 an Hour.

For London
that is not enough per hour.

The Jr. Doctors on Strike again today
goes on until Tuesday.

Some in the media are saying,
more will now Die?

you can have junior doctors who have been in service 10 years

its a poor umbrella term and is misleading and is being abused by the British Medical Union

[arista]

One Young Doctor
on strike, said in February 2025
he is off to Melbourne, Australia
as he will get proper pay

Ch4HDnews

[Crimson Dynamo]

One Young Doctor
on strike, said in February 2025
he is off to Melbourne, Australia
as he will get proper pay

Ch4HDnews

off he pops

he will be back in 6 months when he realizes every insect, the weather and animal wants to kill him:joker:

[arista]

off he pops

he will be back in 6 months when he realizes every insect, the weather and animal wants to kill him:joker:

No,
he will Drive to the Hospital or Surgery


They look after our Doctors well
as they are needed in Australia

[joeysteele]

A Young Doctor in London
said he is only paid £14 an Hour.

For London
that is not enough per hour.

The Jr. Doctors on Strike again today
goes on until Tuesday.

Some in the media are saying,
more will now Die?

I'm totally behind them.
I support them all fully on this.

2 of my family (Cousins), went off to other Countries not long after Hunt's unnecessary battle with the Junior Doctors.
More will go and that's a disaster.

I'm with them all the way.
It's shocking how this government is treating them AGAIN

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Rubbish as usual from the Express.

The government is driving much needed Doctors out of this Country.
By it's cold treatment of them and attitude.

Whatever brings this rotten Con governnent down will be many things and if a small part of that is how they've treated the NHS and these junior Doctors.
Then that will be because hopefully and thankfully voters have had enough of this hard-line and heartless shower in government AT LAST.

[arista]

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Yes Joey
Labour will have to fix it.
After the general election
which can be as late January 2025,
if (currently on holiday in LA)
PM Sunak wants to be awkward

[joeysteele]

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Yes Joey
Labour will have to fix it.
After the general election
which can be as late January 2025,
if (currently on holiday in LA)
PM Sunak wants to be awkward

Hopefully the longer Fishy Sunak makes the voters wait to get their say by him hanging on to the last minute.
Will bring more likely the wrath of voters as happened with Gordon Brown in 2010 and certainly with John Major in 1997.

The voters often don't like being treated as to being denied their rights.
I hope more and more are just getting more set in their determination now to kick this shambolic lot out when they are eventually allowed by them to be consulted.

[arista]

Correction

PM Sunak
is back in the UK,
Claiming things will improve?

[arista]

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[arista]

New Strikes
some Joint Junior Doctors & Consultants

September 19,20,21, & 22nd

And October 2,3 & 4th

[joeysteele]

Totally support them.
Always will.

This government has been atrocious as to the NHS since the top down costly reform Cameron said was never going to be done, then actually was from 2011 onwards.

I do sincerely hope this disgraceful, divisive and heartless shower under Sunak get well and truly booted out at the next election for the chaos they've helped create with Doctors and the NHS alone.
Never mind the ever growing list of incompetence on other policy issues too.

[Vanessa]

They deserve a raise, but I don't think they're going to get that much.

[user104658]

They deserve a raise, but I don't think they're going to get that much.

That's the point of negotiation though - you don't ask for the minimum amount you're willing to settle for, you ask for a lot, the other party will offer a little, and then you argue about it until you reach a compromise somewhere in the middle.

People seem to think that when unions ask for an amount, that's what they actually expect to settle on. But that's not how it works.

Of course sometimes that's the union members, getting themselves all annoyed because their union "settled for less than they asked for" like that's a failure :idc:.

[bots]

they are going to get a substantial increase. Both sides should just cut the crap and get a deal done

[user104658]

they are going to get a substantial increase. Both sides should just cut the crap and get a deal done

The Tories would happily hand out a large pay rise to doctors but they know fine well that if they do, nurses and AHP's are going to strike harder than ever in 2024. They only settled on a pay deal for 2022-2023 and 2023-2024. After next April they can start the whole thing over again. And definitely will if medics get a substantial pay bump.

[Livia]

Meanwhile, public faith in the NHS is at an all-time low. I'm grateful I'm not on a waiting list.

[user104658]

Meanwhile, public faith in the NHS is at an all-time low.

For exactly the same reason (underfunded/under-resourced).

[Crimson Dynamo]

For exactly the same reason (underfunded/under-resourced).

badly managed

[Crimson Dynamo]

employing nurses that kill babies

[user104658]

badly managed

Yes but that's also the governments fault, ultimately.

[user104658]

employing nurses that kill babies

And using an example of one nurse in an organisation that employs over 300,000 nurses and 1.2 million total staff is similtaneously meaningless and gross. Don't use dead babies to score political points LT. Even you're above that, surely.

[Livia]

badly managed


Very badly managed. The waste is appalling. Had it been better managed the doctors who complained about Letby wouldn't have been made to apologise to her by someone with no medical qualifications and a hundred grand salary.

[arista]

On Strike again

Government, not willing to talk

[joeysteele]

On Strike again

Government, not willing to talk

Shocking attitude from the government.
The Doctors have my support 100%
All the way.

[arista]

Labour's Starmer
claimed today PM Sunak is blocking
negotiations.

More Strikes :


Junior doctors in England will strike on
five days from 24 to 28 February,
in an ongoing dispute with
the government about pay.]

[joeysteele]

It's likely the current Chancellor too.
Who is blocking things.

Hunt was Health secretary when the last dispute with the Junior Doctors was happening.

Now he has the purse strings as Chancellor, he will not want to accommodate the Junior Doctors in their dispute now .

I 100% support the Junior Doctors.
This is now twice in the 14 years of this Con led government'
That they've walked over and never appreciated the Doctors.
It's absolutely disgraceful of Sunak and his shambolic government.

[MTVN]

Junior doctors in England will strike on
five days from 24 to 28 February,
in an ongoing dispute with
the government about pay.]

Politicised wankers lets be honest

[arista]

Another 5 Day Strike

Thursday 27 June until 2nd of July

Junior doctors call five-day strike just before election

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-69072640

[MTVN]

Shouldn't be allowed in the public sector so close to an election

[arista]

Shouldn't be allowed in the public sector so close to an election


It's because of the General Election
they have picked these 5 days

[arista]

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Back when it was Cold

[DemRed]

35% is a joke though. Believe me, I have relied on these doctors, so i greatly appreciate them, but this increase is taking the piss


£18.90 ph for someone who already has their degree which btw cost each individual £125,000 and a further two years foundation training before they are qualified as a junior doctor. They remain a junior doctor typically for 8 to 20 years and during that time they will be expected to do between 11 to 13 hours shift.

The average salary for a junior vet is £26 per hour

[joeysteele]

I've not changed my position.
I stand wholeheartedly with the Junior Doctors.

They've been treated abominably by the Con governments, firstly with Jeremy Hunt just under 10 years ago when he was Health secretary.
Plus with every Health secretary from Johnson becoming PM too.

I wish them success in their justified battle here.

[bots]

if labour get in, it will be interesting how they handle it after having had so much to say about the tories actions.

[arista]

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[user104658]

I've not changed my position.
I stand wholeheartedly with the Junior Doctors.

They've been treated abominably by the Con governments, firstly with Jeremy Hunt just under 10 years ago when he was Health secretary.
Plus with every Health secretary from Johnson becoming PM too.

I wish them success in their justified battle here.

I fully support campaigning for better pay for professional level NHS staff in principle, however that's not really the issue at all here. It's that they're planning strike action against ... An empty room. It completely misses the point of what strike action is and how it works.

The point of a strike is... You threaten to strike, you negotiate, the offer is either good enough to stop it or it isn't and then you strike, during which time negotiations continue to end the strike action.

Part of the whole mechanism of strike action and the whole point is to actually NOT strike because a deal has been struck.

In this case... Parliament will have been dissolved a month before the strike, and no new govt will be on place yet.

The room is EMPTY, there's no one to negotiate with. There's no possibility of averting or ending the strike early with a pay settlement. There's no one home.

It makes absolutely no sense.

[joeysteele]

I fully support campaigning for better pay for professional level NHS staff in principle, however that's not really the issue at all here. It's that they're planning strike action against ... An empty room. It completely misses the point of what strike action is and how it works.

The point of a strike is... You threaten to strike, you negotiate, the offer is either good enough to stop it or it isn't and then you strike, during which time negotiations continue to end the strike action.

Part of the whole mechanism of strike action and the whole point is to actually NOT strike because a deal has been struck.

In this case... Parliament will have been dissolved a month before the strike, and no new govt will be on place yet.

The room is EMPTY, there's no one to negotiate with. There's no possibility of averting or ending the strike early with a pay settlement. There's no one home.

It makes absolutely no sense.

I can agree partly with a lot there.
However this isn't a new dispute, this has gone on for over 18 months at least.

There have been it appears no meaningful and sincere negotiations from this government.

I can't and won't condemn the Junior Doctors.
In the last dispute when Hunt was Health secretary.
3 of my Cousins who were Doctors in the NHS, left and 2 went to Australia the other to New Zealand.

This government still after all the Health secretaries there has been since Johnson's leadership.
Have payed nothing more than lip service to the NHS and Junior Doctors.

So I stand with them totally.
Anytime they go on strike, it is never the right time for those opposed to strike action.
However this government has had way more than ample or full time to find a solution to this dispute.

I'm not going to condemn the Junior Doctors now for admittedly a not the best time to strike.
It makes little difference,. whenever there's been the strikes over the last 18 months+ this government has never.tried to either avert said strikes or talk during them.

[user104658]

I can agree partly with a lot there.
However this isn't a new dispute, this has gone on for over 18 months at least.

There have been it appears no meaningful and sincere negotiations from this government.

I can't and won't condemn the Junior Doctors.
In the last dispute when Hunt was Health secretary.
3 of my Cousins who were Doctors in the NHS, left and 2 went to Australia the other to New Zealand.

This government still after all the Health secretaries there has been since Johnson's leadership.
Have payed nothing more than lip service to the NHS and Junior Doctors.

So I stand with them totally.
Anytime they go on strike, it is never the right time for those opposed to strike action.
However this government has had way more than ample or full time to find a solution to this dispute.

I'm not going to condemn the Junior Doctors now for admittedly a not the best time to strike.
It makes little difference,. whenever there's been the strikes over the last 18 months+ this government has never.tried to either avert said strikes or talk during them.

I get that but in this case they are literally striking against no one - standing in front of an empty chair with a placard... it's not that what I think they're doing is wrong in a moral sense, I just think it's a waste of time and makes no sense. I also think [well, know] that a lot of Junior Doctors do actually agree with that.

IMO it would be much more effective to wait and see who gets into power. Assuming it's Labour, immediately get them to commit to improvements that they were all for when they were in opposition. If they start "humming and ahhing" and dragging their heels over it, at THAT point, strike hard. The first Labour govt. in 15 years does not want that sort of heat as soon as they enter power.

Striking before the election if anything completely mutes the effectiveness of any further strike action later in 2024/early 2025.

[joeysteele]

I get that but in this case they are literally striking against no one - standing in front of an empty chair with a placard... it's not that what I think they're doing is wrong in a moral sense, I just think it's a waste of time and makes no sense. I also think [well, know] that a lot of Junior Doctors do actually agree with that.

IMO it would be much more effective to wait and see who gets into power. Assuming it's Labour, immediately get them to commit to improvements that they were all for when they were in opposition. If they start "humming and ahhing" and dragging their heels over it, at THAT point, strike hard. The first Labour govt. in 15 years does not want that sort of heat as soon as they enter power.

Striking before the election if anything completely mutes the effectiveness of any further strike action later in 2024/early 2025.


Yes I can see the sense in what you're saying.
Particularly your last paragraph.

I'll allow myself the optimism still of a hopeful end to strikes after this election.
No matter who won it.

Yes though, I'll think on what you've stated there

[Parmy]

Up sticks and immigrate to Australia and New Zealand....on their wages...how?

[user104658]

Up sticks and immigrate to Australia and New Zealand....on their wages...how?

I've not looked into NZ but I know Aus are (or were at one point recently, dunno if it's still the case) offering large financial incentives for qualified doctors & nurses to move there for work (on top of them already having far higher salaries).

It's not that hard to ex-pat if you have professional qualifications in hand. Everywhere needs healthcare staff.

[arista]

Yes sadly SB

Loads are leaving for Australia
Upgrading to a New Home
Big Pay as a Doctor there.

They are healthier
down under

[bots]

Once people get into a particular mindset, it doesn't matter if no-one is listening, it doesn't matter if their actions are not seen as logical, it doesn't matter if they are justified or not

Look around, this type of thing is happening more and more regularly all around the world. I don't understand it, but it's happening none the less and it's only going to become more and more common

[arista]

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[arista]

Young Doctors going back on Strike

[Junior Doctors' Association to withdraw services
nationwide from October 7 over 10-14 months
of unpaid salaries affecting more than
200 junior doctors, and delays in posting
800 medical officers]

On all news this morning



Crazy.

[Livia]

Sack them. Greedy b****rds.