Femoids

[Alf]

Watch it all 10 and half minutes.

There is a paid promotion (advert) in the middle. If you want to skip that bit it lasts from 4.25 - 5.40

This isn't an attack on women or even feminists. Just these ones in the video and the ones like them.

What's in it for us men?



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[The Slim Reaper]

Alf, you have to pull back from the precipice before it's too late. Instead of watching these weirdos watch a bit of Hasanabi instead and chill yourself out.

[Alf]

Alf, you have to pull back from the precipice before it's too late. Instead of watching these weirdos watch a bit of Hasanabi instead and chill yourself out.I enjoy ir.

I believe these cultural things need to be highlighted and shared. I think they're more important than Gary Lineker's job or Prince. Harry's downfall.

This is effecting human progression.

[Crimson Dynamo]

these women are scary

[The Slim Reaper]

I enjoy ir.

I believe these cultural things need to be highlighted. I think they're more important than Gary Lineker's job.

This isn't highlighting anything. I skipped through parts to try and get an idea. First clip was of him saying something about a dude in a dress going into a woman's bathroom, so i skipped it, then he was on about the gender pay gap and said there was a reason for it, before playing a clip of women's basketball, that was obviously amateurs that had barely ever played before in their lives.

I may have been unlucky, and these clips were just an example of how some people might think, but I doubt it.

You're way better than going down these rabbit holes.

[Alf]

This isn't highlighting anything. I skipped through parts to try and get an idea. First clip was of him saying something about a dude in a dress going into a woman's bathroom, so i skipped it, then he was on about the gender pay gap and said there was a reason for it, before playing a clip of women's basketball, that was obviously amateurs that had barely ever played before in their lives.

I may have been unlucky, and these clips were just an example of how some people might think, but I doubt it.

You're way better than going down these rabbit holes.These young ladies are the result of anti-man propaganda being shoved down their necks with false claims that masculinity is toxic, and being pushed as a fact.

[The Slim Reaper]

These young ladies are the result of anti-man propaganda being shoved down their necks with false claims that masculinity is toxic, and being pushed as a fact.

What does masculinity mean to you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

This isn't highlighting anything. I skipped through parts to try and get an idea. First clip was of him saying something about a dude in a dress going into a woman's bathroom, so i skipped it, then he was on about the gender pay gap and said there was a reason for it, before playing a clip of women's basketball, that was obviously amateurs that had barely ever played before in their lives.

I may have been unlucky, and these clips were just an example of how some people might think, but I doubt it.

You're way better than going down these rabbit holes.

Its a youtube video

stop pretending they are some crazy thing

what is crazy it calling sensible policy Nazi Germany

[Alf]

What does masculinity mean to you?It's a part of human nature that is predominantly found in the male of the species.

It's a sign of strength and security.

It's a natural attractive thing to the female of the spices. Unless programmed to think otherwise.

[The Slim Reaper]

Its a youtube video

stop pretending they are some crazy thing

what is crazy it calling sensible policy Nazi Germany

errrr.... what the what, now?

Oh this that what the tubeyou is? I've heard people talking about it, but videos are considered witchcraft in my village so have been banned by the elders.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's a part of human nature that is predominantly found in the male of the species.

It's a sign of strength and security.

So how would you apply that to, say, the opposite sex?

Do you think it's a sign of male security, that we have to go - look at the funny spliced up out of context clips this guy is feeding us about women?

That comes across as male insecurity to me, there is no strength in that.

[Alf]

So how would you apply that to, say, the opposite sex?

Do you think it's a sign of male security, that we have to go - look at the funny spliced up out of context clips this guy is feeding us about women?

That comes across as male insecurity to me, there is no strength in that.We should apply it freely within the boundaries of the law.

Or do you think we should have some overlord to tell us how we can and can't apply it?

We certainly shouldn't be wrote off as toxic.

[The Slim Reaper]

We should apply it freely within the boundaries of the law.

Or do you think we should have some overlord to tell us how we can and can't apply it?

You can apply it however you choose,; it's your life, and they're your definitions. There does, however, appear to be a conflict between your descriptions and your application.

[Alf]

You can apply it however you choose,; it's your life, and they're your definitions. There does, however, appear to be a conflict between your descriptions and your application.How so?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I did have a problem with femoids in 2021 but i got a special pillow and it made it easier

[The Slim Reaper]

Here we go (Fabrizio Romano style)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrIPHnLWAAIxEbQ?format=jpg&name=900x900

[The Slim Reaper]

How so?

Well your projection of masculinity is security and strength. How secure is any man that has to watch really badly spliced up videos of young women saying stupid things, when they're there specifically and only to make them look bad and say stupid things. That's insecurity.

I've seen that dude with the lego haircut before, so i know his schtick.

[Alf]

Well your projection of masculinity is security and strength, how secure is any man that has to watch really badly spliced up videos of young women saying stupid things, when they're there specifically and only to make them look bad and say stupid things. That's insecurity.

I've seen that dude with the lego haircut before, so i know his schtick.That's just silly.

Am I to take it that it's the way the argument is presented that you have a problem with?

If the same argument was made by someone more articulate, then you could understand it better?

Is it that you totally disagree with the argument? Which in that case, I'd ask you the question of, what good is there to come from bombarding impressionable youngsters with the theory that men are toxic?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here we go (Fabrizio Romano style)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrIPHnLWAAIxEbQ?format=jpg&name=900x900

Calvin and Starkey

great duo

:clap2:

[Alf]

Here we go (Fabrizio Romano style)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrIPHnLWAAIxEbQ?format=jpg&name=900x900Why are more young men wanting to become women these days?

Could it possibly be anything to do with that question asked in your post here?

[Cherie]

Why are more young men wanting to become women these days?

Could it possibly be anything to do with that question asked in your post here?

what rights do woman have that men dont?

[Alf]

what rights do woman have that men dont?I haven't said they have any more rights. I've just simply asked Slim a question based on the post he made.

If you think my question implies that, then all I can say is, it doesn't.

[Tom4784]

I didn't watch the video, I have no interest in giving a single click to incels.

Well your projection of masculinity is security and strength. How secure is any man that has to watch really badly spliced up videos of young women saying stupid things, when they're there specifically and only to make them look bad and say stupid things. That's insecurity.

I've seen that dude with the lego haircut before, so i know his schtick.

It's always funny that these people think they're the height of masculinity when they're so weak, so concerned with what other people think of them so they have to put out this false veil of strength to earn validation from others.

[Cherie]

I haven't said they have any more rights. I've just simply asked Slim a question based on the post he made.

oh right ...carry on

[Alf]

I didn't watch the video, I have no interest in giving a single click to incels.



It's always funny that these people think they're the height of masculinity when they're so weak, so concerned with what other people think of them so they have to put out this false veil of strength to earn validation from others.I would have put money on that outcome

[Tom4784]

I would have put money on that outcome

If only you were more selective with what you watch, you wouldn't be in so deep with all this ****.

[AnnieK]

Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life :laugh:

[Alf]

If only you were more selective with what you watch, you wouldn't be in so deep with all this ****.Well, I'm afraid that's the negatives of freedom for you, you get to watch what you want instead of someone else telling you what you should and shouldn't watch.

[Alf]

Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life :laugh:It's media. Same as that thing that comes on your screen when you turn your television on. Or the sounds from your radio. Or the print in your newspapers and magazines.

[Tom4784]

Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life :laugh:

Problem is that Youtube, Tiktok and the like can radicalise people quite easily due to the algorithm. Take little Alf, He starts by watching one or two right wing videos, this starts a rabbit hole effect, he begins consuming Fox News videos, then conspiracy videos, and now incel videos. He now believes every one of them. It's a shock and awe tactic really, blitz someone with enough of these videos and they'll start to take what's being said as gospel.

There's a lot of studies and research on it, it's quite worrying really. I remember back in the height of the Andrew Tate stuff, there was this experiment where someone made several new profiles on TikTok, and they listed themselves as being a teenage boy with no specific interests or preferences and they were basically being recommended Andrew Tate tiktoks by default within a short few minutes of scrolling.

[Tom4784]

Well, I'm afraid that's the negatives of freedom for you, you get to watch what you want instead of someone else telling you what you should and shouldn't watch.

I'm not telling you what to watch, I've no interest in infringing on your freedumbs, I'm just saying you wouldn't be so gullible to this **** if you had the sense to be more selective with what you consume online.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's just silly.

Am I to take it that it's the way the argument is presented that you have a problem with?

If the same argument was made by someone more articulate, then you could understand it better?

Is it that you totally disagree with the argument? Which in that case, I'd ask you the question of, what good is there to come from bombarding impressionable youngsters with the theory that men are toxic?

I don't really care about articulation, because the whole thing is designed to be a setup from the off. What I don't understand is what you get out of it. You're a man with a vast knowledge of comedy, so I know you can't find the splicer funny, and the lego-haired interviewer is there to set up a narrative because that's what he does.

I don't think young girls are bombarded with that impression about men at all. It's important to separate social media from life. It's a fact that toxic masculinity exists, but does that make every man toxic? Absolutely not.

What is being bombarded, are videos like this where we hear the same things over and over on repeat until it can regrettably and unfortunately become ingrained as a fact into a person.

You have to get away from these grievance peddlers, telling you women hate you, trump won :smug:, the white man is oppressed etc. Most of the country and world is oppressed because without financial freedom, there is no freedom.

People need to work together to fight for more, not push blame around the table as we're divided and conquered.

[Alf]

Problem is that Youtube, Tiktok and the like can radicalise people quite easily due to the algorithm. Take little Alf, He starts by watching one or two right wing videos, this starts a rabbit hole effect, he begins consuming Fox News videos, then conspiracy videos, and now incel videos. He now believes every one of them. It's a shock and awe tactic really, blitz someone with enough of these videos and they'll start to take what's being said as gospel.

There's a lot of studies and research on it, it's quite worrying really. I remember back in the height of the Andrew Tate stuff, there was this experiment where someone made several new profiles on TikTok, and they listed themselves as being a teenage boy with no specific interests or preferences and they were basically being recommended Andrew Tate tiktoks by default within a short few minutes of scrolling.I think the point of the video in this thread OP is that people have been radicalised (as you put it) to think men are nothing but toxic.

Who would want to be with a man or even be a man with those theories. It makes men sound like horrible monsters. You're better off being a feminist or a woman.

[AnnieK]

It's media. Same as that thing that comes on your screen when you turn your television on. Or the sounds from your radio. Or the print in your newspapers and magazines.

Yeah...I am fully aware of what it is but for the same reason I dont take any biased media in form seriously, you need to realise that some mediums are more interested in monitising content than providing factual content. Clicks meand pounds Alf...surely you know that. The creators care very little as long as you click

[Mystic Mock]

These young ladies are the result of anti-man propaganda being shoved down their necks with false claims that masculinity is toxic, and being pushed as a fact.

While I do agree that there is an extreme element of society that despises men or masculine things, we don't want to fall into the trap of following Incel ideology either as they're both basically two sides of the same coin.

[Mystic Mock]

Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life :laugh:

So we're not all talking to an audience through a camera?

Now I'm upset.:bawling:

Just to add I agree with you AnnieK.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't really care about articulation, because the whole thing is designed to be a setup from the off. What I don't understand is what you get out of it. You're a man with a vast knowledge of comedy, so I know you can't find the splicer funny, and the lego-haired interviewer is there to set up a narrative because that's what he does.

I don't think young girls are bombarded with that impression about men at all. It's important to separate social media from life. It's a fact that toxic masculinity exists, but does that make every man toxic? Absolutely not.

What is being bombarded, are videos like this where we hear the same things over and over on repeat until it can regrettably and unfortunately become ingrained as a fact into a person.

You have to get away from these grievance peddlers, telling you women hate you, trump won :smug:, the white man is oppressed etc. Most of the country and world is oppressed because without financial freedom, there is no freedom.

People need to work together to fight for more, not push blame around the table as we're divided and conquered.

Apologies for over posting, but I really agree with your last paragraph.

We all need to work together and fight our leaders (verbally of course) because the Government in this country is unfortunately running rings around it's citizens with all of the division that's going on in society.

[Alf]

While I do agree that there is an extreme element of society that despises men or masculine things, we don't want to fall into the trap of following Incel ideology either as they're both basically two sides of the same coin.Who told you all that rubbish about Incel ideology?

Was it by any chance the people that want to promote masculinity as being toxic? Maybe they are the incells and are just projecting on to the rest of us?

[Cherie]

I watched the video Alf, they are Americans I think that says it all :laugh: There can be that cross over with equality though where some women expect men to pay on the first date and hold doors open etc, and it is hard to marry that with true feminism

[user104658]

Seen clips on this on TikTok - engage some critical thinking Alf, you know what "Fake News" is - these podcasts are incel/misogynist bait, they are SCRIPTED and specifically designed to make the (paid) girls on them look stupid/cruel/whatever while the bearded chump interviewing them plays the voice of reason.

They're bad enough on their own without a SECOND angry little chump passing comment over the top of them in a YouTube video. He's truly, truly awful. Like nails on a chalk board.

Who told you all that rubbish about Incel ideology?

Was it by any chance the people that want to promote masculinity as being toxic? Maybe they are the incells and are just projecting on to the rest of us?

:joker: Alf I don't think you've grasped what "incel" means?

I won't beat around the bush; "Incel" is short for "Involuntarily Celibate" and refers to a group of sad (mostly) young men who are frustrated and angry that no one will have sex with them.

"Maybe THEY are secretly the incels!" doesn't make any sense.

[Cherie]

The girl who dumped the date because he wouldn’t pay 3 dollars for a cheese slice was the best :laugh:

[arista]

[What's a Femoid?

Particularly, it uses feminist critical discourse
analysis to explore perceptions created by the term
“femoid,” a pejorative generated by incels to refer to women]



Alf,
this is USA
not part of us, in the UK


To be fair if you put USA: Femoids
it would make more sense

[The Slim Reaper]

When you hate women so much that you even lose Arista...

[arista]

When you hate women so much that you even lose Arista...


I do not hate women.


I made the Working Women thread


Infact your the last post on it
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10788425&highlight=working+women+thread#post10788425

[user104658]

When you hate women so much that you even lose Arista...

Arista loves the UK more than he enjoys misogyny so clarification was needed here. It's the arista hierarchy of needs.

[user104658]

Threads like these always remind me of the time The Truth got all of his furniture stolen, and then I have a great day :flutter:

[Niamh.]

Threads like these always remind me of the time The Truth got all of his furniture stolen, and then I have a great day :flutter:

:laugh2:

[Alf]

So all's good then

The excuses have been made and the outcome was.

Alf, stop watching this and watch the new series on Netflix instead.

Until the next male World champion in women's sport, I'll stop triggering you.

[Liam-]

Here we go (Fabrizio Romano style)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrIPHnLWAAIxEbQ?format=jpg&name=900x900

Aren’t these supposed to be some of the people fighting for women’s right by hating and attacking trans people :whistle:

[Alf]

Aren’t these supposed to be some of the people fighting for women’s right by hating and attacking trans people :whistle:I don't see what point you're making, any chance of an explanation?

[Niamh.]

Aren’t these supposed to be some of the people fighting for women’s right by hating and attacking trans people :whistle:

Not sure that's the gotcha you were hoping it would be Liam unless you're saying that you like and agree with every opinion everyone on "your side" of the argument has? (I'm pretty sure that's not the case btw, there's some very nasty characters over there ....)

[user104658]

Aren’t these supposed to be some of the people fighting for women’s right by hating and attacking trans people :whistle:

You're in a thread with a misogynistic title that clearly is drected only at women, and a video that clearly and singularly attacks women, and you've immediately chosen to try to make it about trans rights instead.

And then you ask, "how does trans rights affect women's rights?"

I suppose it's difficult to see when you can't even bring yourself to have a conversation ABOUT women's rights without "whatabout"ing trans rights as the more important topic ... and therein lies the answer to your own question. Trans rights quite clearly affects women's rights when there's a group of people who are adamant that trans rights are more important than women's rights.

I'll believe the outrage when trans rights are given top trumps over gay men's rights - and are still unquestioningly supported.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Aren’t these supposed to be some of the people fighting for women’s right by hating and attacking trans people :whistle:

If you have any evidence of "hating and attacking trans people"

lets see it as it would be good to see what it is that you are on about?

[bots]

i was expecting to see an advert for preparation F

[Liam-]

Just making the point that many people on the right pretend to care about women and the struggles purely to benefit themselves, while still working to undermine feminism, that’s all

And again, I’ve also got some people on this thread on ignore and just read what I can see and reacted accordingly, feel free to add me to your ignore lists if you don’t like the way I post

[Niamh.]

Just making the point that many people on the right pretend to care about women and the struggles purely to benefit themselves, while still working to undermine feminism, that’s all

I agree, that doesn't mean women's concerns about our rights are suddenly invalid though. :shrug:

[Liam-]

I agree, that doesn't mean women's concerns about our rights are suddenly invalid though. :shrug:

What is it with people on this forum taking peoples posts and twisting it to mean something that wasn’t said? I didn’t say that did I? I just pointed out that some people pretending to be concerned about women’s right, aren’t really all that concerned about them when they’re telling the truth

[Niamh.]

What is it with people on this forum taking peoples posts and twisting it to mean something that wasn’t said? I didn’t say that did I? I just pointed out that some people pretending to be concerned about women’s right, aren’t really all that concerned about them when they’re telling the truth

Ok, I agree with you.

[Alf]

Just making the point that many people on the right pretend to care about women and the struggles purely to benefit themselves, while still working to undermine feminism, that’s all

And again, I’ve also got some people on this thread on ignore and just read what I can see and reacted accordingly, feel free to add me to your ignore lists if you don’t like the way I postIf you read what I put in the OP, I say this isn't an attack on woman or even feminism. It's just a video highlighting these particularly women and those like them.

But apparently I was wrong to highlight and share them. Because I ran into their defences. Apparently women that treat men the way they do is fine. Well it's fine if we're not of fan of the presenter.

[user104658]

If you read what I put in the OP, I say this isn't an attack on woman or even feminism. It's just a video highlighting these particularly women and those like them.

But apparently I was wrong to highlight and share them. Because I ran into their defences. Apparently women that treat men the way they do is fine. Well it's fine if we're not of fan of the presenter.

It's a video from a misogynistic content creator, about a podcast that is fake and uses hired actresses reading from a script that they write specifically with the intention of showing "how terrible women are". It's an attack on women with some misogyny sauce spread on top.

The most worrying part is that when you claim that you can't see this - I actually believe you.

[Alf]

It's a video from a misogynistic content creator, about a podcast that is fake and uses with hired actresses reading from a script that they write specifically with the intention of showing "how terrible women are". It's an attack on women with some misogyny sauce spread on top.

The most worrying part is that when you claim that you can't see this - I actually believe you.The most worrying part is you champion men being seen as only toxic, and being behind men and women growing up to hate men. So much that the women are growing into these types in the video, and men who would just rather be women because why would they want to be men when you've told them that men are toxic.

It's all done purpously too, it's all part of population control. Let's get those birth rates down, abortion can't fight this problem alone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Popular femoid hobbies include twerking, using fakeup, as well as feminism, the process
by which women seize the means of reproduction to liberate themselves from ugly beta
providers. Another popular femoid hobby is encouraging vicious male competition and
toxic masculinity through their mere sexual desires.

https://incels.wiki/w/Femoid

Incels have a wiki!

[user104658]

The most worrying part is you champion men being seen as only toxic, and being behind men and women growing up to hate men. So much that the women are growing into these types in the video, and men who would just rather be women because why would they want to be men when you've told them that men are toxic.

It's all done purpously too, it's all part of population control. Let's get those birth rates down, abortion can't fight this problem alone.

In younger people there are far more female-to-male trans people than there are male-to-female, so this argument falls completely on its face immediately.

And your grasp of the term "toxic masculinity" is as poor as your grasp of the word incel.

Toxic masculinity doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic", it means "there's a TYPE of masulinity that's toxic to both men and women".

We've discussed this loads of times on here though and you're still sticking with the idea that it means "all masculinity is toxic", so you either just don't want to hear it, or it gets washed right back out by all of the sad "men's rights activism" youtube videos.

[Alf]

In younger people there are far more female-to-male trans people than there are male-to-female, so this argument falls completely on its face immediately.

And your grasp of the term "toxic masculinity" is as poor as your grasp of the word incel.

Toxic masculinity doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic", it means "there's a TYPE of masulinity that's toxic to both men and women".

We've discussed this loads of times on here though and you're still sticking with the idea that it means "all masculinity is toxic", so you either just don't want to hear it, or it gets washed right back out by all of the sad "men's rights activism" youtube videos.I hear it, but I think you don't have a clue.

You're stuck in your misandrist incel talking points.

You need to keep of Reddit.

[user104658]

I hear it, but I think you don't have a clue.

You're stuck in your misandrist incel talking points.

You need to keep of Reddit.

Time for a lie down I think Alf - it's not a discussion once you start this.

[Alf]

Time for a lie down I think Alf - it's not a discussion once you start this.Are you saying that your usual replies are not discussion?

All I'm doing is holding a mirror up to you.

[Mystic Mock]

Who told you all that rubbish about Incel ideology?

Was it by any chance the people that want to promote masculinity as being toxic? Maybe they are the incells and are just projecting on to the rest of us?

Interesting theory.

But for me I think of people like Andrew Tate who are telling young guys to basically treat women like objects to be won rather than as people.

[Mystic Mock]

Seen clips on this on TikTok - engage some critical thinking Alf, you know what "Fake News" is - these podcasts are incel/misogynist bait, they are SCRIPTED and specifically designed to make the (paid) girls on them look stupid/cruel/whatever while the bearded chump interviewing them plays the voice of reason.

They're bad enough on their own without a SECOND angry little chump passing comment over the top of them in a YouTube video. He's truly, truly awful. Like nails on a chalk board.



:joker: Alf I don't think you've grasped what "incel" means?

I won't beat around the bush; "Incel" is short for "Involuntarily Celibate" and refers to a group of sad (mostly) young men who are frustrated and angry that no one will have sex with them.

"Maybe THEY are secretly the incels!" doesn't make any sense.

Can women be classed as Incels?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can women be classed as Incels?

yes but Mock as we all know

women dont exist

[user104658]

Can women be classed as Incels?

Technically yes, in realistic social context it doesn't mean the same thing.

It was actually first used by a woman (about herself). But not in an angry/entitled way, in more of a jokey way.

[user104658]

All I'm doing is holding a mirror up to you.

I'm aware that you think that's what you're doing.

[Alf]

Can women be classed as Incels?No, what he's saying is that "Incel" is a misandrist term for a male. And although he uses that term a lot to discredit people, he's definitely not a misandrist.

[Niamh.]

No, what he's saying is that "Incel" is a misandrist term for a male. And although he uses that term a lot to discredit people, he's definitely not a misandrist.

I'm no expert on the Incel movement but aren't they the ones that coined that term and use for themselves? - TS can clarify that one :p

[user104658]

No, what he's saying is that "Incel" is a misandrist term for a male. And although he uses that term a lot to discredit people, he's definitely not a misandrist.

I'd have even less hope for the world than I do already if I thought that all men (or even a large proportion of men) were incels, Alf :joker:.

I don't even think that all men who say incelly-stuff are ACTUAL incels, they're just wrapped up in that piller mindset.

[user104658]

I'm no expert on the Incel movement but aren't they the ones that coined that term and use for themselves? - TS can clarify that one :p

Yes it was originally used in an article by a woman jokingly describing herself (because she couldn't find a partner) and then it was adopted and used by Redpill/blackpill basement boys on Reddit, before finding its way into the more mainstream. Obviously a lot of them won't unironically use the term "incel" about themselves any more because it's been discovered by "outsiders" and "used against them". Some of them do indeed still refer to themselves as "the incel community" though.

[Mystic Mock]

Technically yes, in realistic social context it doesn't mean the same thing.

It was actually first used by a woman (about herself). But not in an angry/entitled way, in more of a jokey way.

Well I've definitely learned something new today.

[Mystic Mock]

yes but Mock as we all know

women dont exist

:joker:

[Alf]

I'm no expert on the Incel movement but aren't they the ones that coined that term and use for themselves? - TS can clarify that one :pEven if that were the case, wouldn't using the term in a derogatory way to discredit someone be misandry?

[user104658]

Even if that were the case, wouldn't using the term in a derogatory way to discredit someone be misandry?

Not if it's accurate?

[Alf]

Not if it's accurate?OK, right.

Well PJ Watson is right that these slags are femoids? So why the counter arguments?

[user104658]

OK, right.

Well PJ Watson is right that these slags are femoids?

Again - they are amateur actors reading from scripts on a misogynist's podcast. Maybe your fella doesn't know that, but one suspects he doesn't care because that's not the point in his outrage clickbait.

[Alf]

Again - they are amateur actors reading from scripts on a misogynist's podcast. Maybe your fella doesn't know that, but one suspects he doesn't care because that's not the point in his outrage clickbait.You may be right, I don't deny that, but you don't honestly know for a fact that they're amateur actors. You don't know who they are do you, you are just guessing that that's what they are, arne't you?

[Alf]

All I take from this is.

"Please post more PJ Watson videos Alf."

[Beso]

Problem is that Youtube, Tiktok and the like can radicalise people quite easily due to the algorithm. Take little Alf, He starts by watching one or two right wing videos, this starts a rabbit hole effect, he begins consuming Fox News videos, then conspiracy videos, and now incel videos. He now believes every one of them. It's a shock and awe tactic really, blitz someone with enough of these videos and they'll start to take what's being said as gospel.

There's a lot of studies and research on it, it's quite worrying really. I remember back in the height of the Andrew Tate stuff, there was this experiment where someone made several new profiles on TikTok, and they listed themselves as being a teenage boy with no specific interests or preferences and they were basically being recommended Andrew Tate tiktoks by default within a short few minutes of scrolling.



But you believe what you believe about alf, from a few tibb posts. I don't think you have the right to mock what alf enjoys watching.

[Beso]

:laugh2:

Ah I see....talking about former members is only allowed when you find it funny.

[Niamh.]

Ah I see....talking about former members is only allowed when you find it funny.

He's talking about a thread that still exists on TiBB :shrug:

[Beso]

He's talking about a thread that still exists on TiBB :shrug:

He was talking about how truths bad day turned his day into a good day...which is a dig, one that you found funny, which made you bend the rules.

Hypocrite.

[bots]

He was talking about how truths bad day turned his day into a good day...which is a dig, one that you found funny, which made you bend the rules.

Hypocrite.

give it a rest parm, people are allowed to have some fun and humour. You follow neem round the forum like a demented ferret

[Beso]

give it a rest parm, people are allowed to have some fun and humour

Indeed, some people are. Some people aren't.

Just like some members are allowed to be talked about and some aren't by the same person joining in when one is being ridiculed.

You don't need to get involved, and you certainly don't need to be telling me what to do.

[bots]

Indeed, some people are. Some people aren't.

Just like some members are allowed to be talked about and some aren't by the same person joining in when one is being ridiculed.

You don't need to get involved, and you certainly don't need to be telling me what to do.

you are just being an arse parm, and you know it

[Beso]

Or what I'm being.

[Crimson Dynamo]

9wAhB3uge-8

[Alf]

9wAhB3uge-8It's not real. Toy Soldier knows these people, they're amateur actors. He's seen them on Broadway in supporting roles.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Alf]

In younger people there are far more female-to-male trans people than there are male-to-female, so this argument falls completely on its face immediately.

And your grasp of the term "toxic masculinity" is as poor as your grasp of the word incel.

Toxic masculinity doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic", it means "there's a TYPE of masulinity that's toxic to both men and women".

We've discussed this loads of times on here though and you're still sticking with the idea that it means "all masculinity is toxic", so you either just don't want to hear it, or it gets washed right back out by all of the sad "men's rights activism" youtube videos.Do you see the Women's rights activism as "sad?" I don't see it as that, maybe I sometimes see them as wrong in my opinion, but not "sad" Just the same way I don't see the men's rights activism as "sad" unlike you do. As you let us know here.

Even though you know I don't truly believe you're a misandrist, hopefully you can see why I have to keep saying you are to point that out to you?

[Tom4784]

Men's Rights Activists are dumb and should be laughed at. Just a bunch of wannabe victims that don't want to acknowledge that they have it easier than women in every regard.

It's just always incels upset at the world because no one wants to **** 'em.

[Alf]

Men's Rights Activists are dumb and should be laughed at. Just a bunch of wannabe victims that don't want to acknowledge that they have it easier than women in every regard.

It's just always incels upset at the world because no one wants to **** 'em.Here is a poor victim who has been brought up on the propaganda that men are toxic. This here is the outcome.

Pray for this soul

[Alf]

Men's Rights Activists are dumb and should be laughed at. Just a bunch of wannabe victims that don't want to acknowledge that they have it easier than women in every regard.

It's just always incels upset at the world because no one wants to **** 'em.[/QUOTEThat's OK, we have porn, playstation and football. What do women have? Cats.

[Cherie]

That's OK, we have porn, playstation and football. What do women have? Cats.

:laugh: and Football :fist:

[Niamh.]

That's OK, we have porn, playstation and football. What do women have? Cats.

You say that like it's a bad thing :hee:

[arista]

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Very Good Slim.

[Alf]

You say that like it's a bad thing :hee:That is correct.

[Niamh.]

That is correct.

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[Alf]

https://media.tenor.com/JSVposAw81oAAAAd/angry-cat.gifEvil little things.

[user104658]

truths bad day

:joker: The novelisation of the tale.

[user104658]

Do you see the Women's rights activism as "sad?" I don't see it as that, maybe I sometimes see them as wrong in my opinion, but not "sad" Just the same way I don't see the men's rights activism as "sad" unlike you do. As you let us know here.

Even though you know I don't truly believe you're a misandrist, hopefully you can see why I have to keep saying you are to point that out to you?

To be a misandrist I'd have to dislike them because they're men - but I dislike these specific people because they're such sad, whiney, pathetic, terminally lonely little characters who when it comes down to it are only moaning about the fact that they seem not to know how to interact with human beings other than other whiney blokes in the same position as them... So they're caught in an endless cycle of feeling sorry for themselves, and seeking to "take their power back!" by listening to these YouTube rants and drooling over Andrew Tate.

[Alf]

To be a misandrist I'd have to dislike them because they're men - but I dislike these specific people because they're such sad, whiney, pathetic, terminally lonely little characters who when it comes down to it are only moaning about the fact that they seem not to know how to interact with human beings other than other whiney blokes in the same position as them... So they're caught in an endless cycle of feeling sorry for themselves, and seeking to "take their power back!" by listening to these YouTube rants and drooling over Andrew Tate.Don't take them so seriously and let them make you angry, they're just actors.

[user104658]

Don't take them so seriously and let them make you angry, they're just actors.

The men using MRA rhetoric to gain access to their ex wives who they've abused and children who are terrified of them are certainly not "actors" Alf. Try to remember that there's a real world with real consequences outside of sad blokes crying all over YouTube and forums because someone said something that hurt their feelings.

[Tom4784]

Here is a poor victim who has been brought up on the propaganda that men are toxic. This here is the outcome.

Pray for this soul

Alf, you are seriously not trying to make out that I'm a victim of propaganda when you literally believe every conspiracy theory and everything you're told by these people as indisputable fact.

You are literally a perfect mark for these people.

Some men are toxic, some masculinity is toxic. MRAs are examples of this, because it's not about men's rights, because we are basically the preferred gender all over the planet, we have it easy mode in terms of gender, it's about being angry at women's rights and acting like a woman striving for equality is somehow an attack on us.

Honestly, it's not the difficult to understand, maybe to someone whose been brainwashed by this ****, but not for normal people.