French protests. Live link.

[Beso]

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[arista]

Thank you Parmy
for a Live Link



It is getting Nasty
as Police are getting violent.

[arista]

Live Feed still going

As it gets less light
Fires in the Street are starting.

[Alf]

Arise, children of the Fatherland
Our day of glory has arrived
Against us the bloody flag of tyranny
is raised; the bloody flag is raised.
Do you hear, in the countryside
The roar of those ferocious soldiers?
They’re coming right into your arms
To cut the throats of your sons, your comrades!

To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions
Let’s march, let’s march
That their impure blood
Should water our fields



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[arista]

Getting Dark there now
on Parmys Live Link

[Oliver_W]

Now Fatherland, Fatherland, show us the sign
Your children have waited to see
The morning will come...

[UserSince2005]

Bordeaux town hall on fire. quite shocking, but also admirable that the protesters wont stand for the bull****.

[Oliver_W]

They always go all out on their protests, as the only war the French can win unaided is a civil war.

[bots]

the french sure know how to do a protest

[Cherie]

Is this about raising the retirement age to 63...meanwhile in the UK its heading for 68...thank you Sir 3 bags full Sir :douf:

[Zizu]

Is this about raising the retirement age to 63...meanwhile in the UK its heading for 68...thank you Sir 3 bags full Sir :douf:


… and they officially live longer over there apparently


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[Cherie]

… and they officially live longer over there apparently


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I presume because they are not driven into an early grave by working so long :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

Is this about raising the retirement age to 63...meanwhile in the UK its heading for 68...thank you Sir 3 bags full Sir :douf:

Yes but you will now have to collect the full 45 years (or what ever it is) of working to be able to claim, so if you went to university you now aren’t retiring until 69/70 in France

[Nicky91]

why no protests in UK then, working until 68 is more of a farce


no here the french are acting like too spoiled children


retirement at 63 or a retirement at 68, where it's gonna be at in UK


:joker:


keep standing your ground my dear french government

[arista]

The Rubbish Strike there
meant many Fires were started
on not collected rubbish

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/01/69057111-11895699-image-a-13_1679619608898.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/23/23/69054755-11895699-image-a-1_1679614849777.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/01/69054723-11895699-image-a-27_1679623101398.jpg
[Angry Parisians demonstrated amid clouds of
smoke tonight as fires were lit across the city]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/01/69057989-11895699-image-a-26_1679622398614.jpg
[Some protestors were seen throwing rocks
and even shooting fireworks at police ]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11895699/Chaos-Paris-police-fire-tear-gas-protesters-baton-charge-crowds.html

[Nicky91]

well i would easily make the protests stop

protest goers: booooooo no rise of retirement age to 63

me: can always go more up to 68, so do you want to keep complaining

protest goers: don't make them go up at all

me: ok i count to 3, either 63 or 68, you decide

protest goers: but

me: no buts, make a choice or we make a choice for you

protest goers: we'll stop and accept that at 63


:laugh2:

[Cherie]

well i would easily make the protests stop

protest goers: booooooo no rise of retirement age to 63

me: can always go more up to 68, so do you want to keep complaining

protest goers: don't make them go up at all

me: ok i count to 3, either 63 or 68, you decide

protest goers: but

me: no buts, make a choice or we make a choice for you

protest goers: we'll stop and accept that at 63


:laugh2:

That made me chuckle :laugh:

[Cherie]

Yes but you will now have to collect the full 45 years (or what ever it is) of working to be able to claim, so if you went to university you now aren’t retiring until 69/70 in France


:fist:

[Cherie]

Macron is pushing to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64. The bill would also require 43 years of work to be eligible to receive a full pension at 64, otherwise individuals would have to wait until they are 67.

Polling shows the majority of French people oppose Macron's plan, which raises the age when workers start collecting a government pension by two years. The retirement age moves from 62 to 64 for most workers, and from 57 to 59 for garbage collectors.

The new conditions would apply to those born in or after 1968. However, workers born in 1961, who were supposed to retire this year, would have to work three extra months.

[bots]

it's not just the fact he wants to raise the retirement age, it's that he bypassed democracy to achieve it, by not allowing a vote in parliament. We all know what the french did last time they felt they were not being heard :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

But who works 43 solid years with out a break? Or even those who work in other countries so many french working in london not working towards their 43 years. So many french also commute everyday to Switzerland and Luxembourg to earn a better wage. People won’t be able to retire until after 70 under this new law.

[Cherie]

But who works 43 solid years with out a break? Or even those who work in other countries so many french working in london not working towards their 43 years. So many french also commute everyday to Switzerland and Luxembourg to earn a better wage. People won’t be able to retire until after 70 under this new law.

No one relies on a state pension any more and that has been the case for decades ...if you are French and working in the UK you will be automatcally enrolled into a private pension if employed and will also be eligible for some state UK pension

[UserSince2005]

No one relies on a state pension any more and that has been the case for decades ...if you are French and working in the UK you will be automatcally enrolled into a private pension if employed and will also be eligible for some state UK pension

I'm all for moving to the American system where everyone fends for themselves.
But when you've paid extortionate tax for years and then the script gets flipped I understand why the french are angry.
The French and UK really aren't comparable on this topic.
French wages are so low and taxes are so high, but they have so many social benefits compared to the UK.
Literally in France if you lose your job the state pays you your previous wage up to 2.5k euros per month for up to 2 years whilst you look for other work.
The French are scared all these things are being taken away from them and they are still left with ****ty wages and high taxes.
That is why they fight.

[Oliver_W]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/01/69057111-11895699-image-a-13_1679619608898.jpg
That's so weird, that firefighter looks like a child.

[arista]

The Visit Next Week
By King Charles has now been halted

All Media

[Cherie]

I'm all for moving to the American system where everyone fends for themselves.
But when you've paid extortionate tax for years and then the script gets flipped I understand why the french are angry.
The French and UK really aren't comparable on this topic.
French wages are so low and taxes are so high, but they have so many social benefits compared to the UK.
Literally in France if you lose your job the state pays you your previous wage up to 2.5k euros per month for up to 2 years whilst you look for other work.
The French are scared all these things are being taken away from them and they are still left with ****ty wages and high taxes.
That is why they fight.

I think the French are great, they protest for their rights, here in the UK we are far too passive. I turn 50 this year and I can access a pension as I was in it before they made the reforms that allowed you to access your private pension at 55, now they are thinking this is a bad idea as alot of people are retiring early so from 2028 that will rise to 57 ...and it will continue to rise

[Cherie]

That's so weird, that firefighter looks like a child.

He/she might be as they have to work for 45 years plus to get a state pension :laugh:

[bots]

the average french peasant is completely insane. This is only going to go one way, and Macron seriously better watch out

[bots]

this is Paris today :laugh: LT was asking what the point was in face masks .... well here is a brilliant example of their use

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/132B9/production/_129112587_paris.jpg.webp

[UserSince2005]

this weekend will be wild.

[arista]

Yesterday they Smashed the McDonald's
in Paris
and two Supermarkets.


https://www.businessinsider.in/thumb/msid-63993436,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-723235/Pictures-show-Paris-erupting-during-May-Day-rally-with-protesters-torching-a-McDonalds/Protesters-smashed-the-windows-at-a-McDonalds-near-the-Austerlitz-Metro-station-.jpg
One Punk there, brought a Club Hammer

Also Burning Cars - no need for that
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQO61PgoCOxI69uhFF7ggHiUXKnQBIiP kzDAg&usqp=CAU

[Cherie]

Yesterday they Smashed the McDonald's
in Paris
and two Supermarkets.


https://www.businessinsider.in/thumb/msid-63993436,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-723235/Pictures-show-Paris-erupting-during-May-Day-rally-with-protesters-torching-a-McDonalds/Protesters-smashed-the-windows-at-a-McDonalds-near-the-Austerlitz-Metro-station-.jpg
One Punk there, brought a Club Hammer

Also Burning Cars - no need for that
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQO61PgoCOxI69uhFF7ggHiUXKnQBIiP kzDAg&usqp=CAU

Thugs hijacking the protest, damaging property and putting people out of work is not what most protesters want to do

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/17/69082205-0-image-a-3_1679678124899.jpg

French Writing : Death to the King

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/17/69082923-11899603-image-a-6_1679679300523.jpg
[On the ninth day of rioting, more chilling graffiti directly
addressed the King in English,
reading 'Charles III, do you know the guillotine?']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11899603/Is-Macron-cancelled-Charless-visit-Protesters-daub-Death-King-Paris-buildings.html

[arista]

Thugs hijacking the protest, damaging property and putting people out of work is not what most protesters want to do


They also Smashed up a Starbucks

[bots]

They also Smashed up a Starbucks

thats no bad thing

[Cherie]

thats no bad thing

True

[arista]

BBC Text :[The FT Weekend leads on a fiery image
of the "turmoil in France" as Bordeaux's town hall
was set on fire in a protest over pensions.
The unrest has continued as Emmanuel Macron has
doubled down on the government's plan
to raise the pension age from 62 to 64.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/627E/production/_129141252_ft-nc.png.webp

[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

French President Emmanuel Macron has been criticised after he removed a luxury watch during an interview about pension changes.

France is gripped by protests and strikes over Mr Macron's decision to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64.

Mr Macron's representatives said the president took off the watch because it was "clinking on the table".

But his critics have claimed the watch shows he is out of touch with the public.

Some wrongly claimed it was worth up to €80,000 ($86,000; £70,000), but the Élysée Palace said this was not correct.

The incident happened part way through an interview on Wednesday, when Mr Macron was justifying his reasons for lifting the pension age.

As he rested his forearms on the table, a thud could be heard.

The president then placed his hands under the table as he continued talking. When he brought them back up, the watch had been removed.

His team insisted the removal was entirely innocent. But the missing timepiece quickly drew his critics' attention.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2F3D/production/_129139021_macron_comp.jpg.webp

[Gusto Brunt]

Little is said about our own UK retirement age.

It was raised to 66 a few years ago, and in 2028 it will be raised again to 67.

Why raised twice in such a short space of time?

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/25/04/69092617-0-image-m-16_1679717046137.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/24/22/69091729-11900529-image-a-17_1679697793860.jpg

French Bin men/women strike

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsAb985WABwdu9L?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Little is said about our own UK retirement age.

It was raised to 66 a few years ago, and in 2028 it will be raised again to 67.

Why raised twice in such a short space of time?


In France
it's not like the UK.

They now have a young underclass
who go along and smash Windows
and start fires.


Their Petrol is too High to buy now.



A good Newsmaker Report
was just on TRTworldHD
Ch513 on SkyHD

[arista]

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[Alf]

"I love Paris in the Springtime"



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[arista]

Yes
Police have had enough


Alf.

[arista]

More Fights on the streets, again

All 3 News Channels are showing it

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/14B4/production/_129300350_dailytelegraph-nc.png.webp

[Nicky91]

the bunch of trolls keep protesting, it's hilarious to see :laugh2: :laugh2:

[arista]

Protests in Paris
getting violent again, today

On all news media.

Tomorrow, France will find out


[The protest movement against raising
the pension age from 62 to 64 is the biggest
domestic crisis of Macron’s second term,
with the strikes affecting refineries, bin collections,
rail transport, air travel and schools.
Authorities in Paris and several other cities were
braced for clashes between police and protesters.]

[arista]

Paris
Water Cannon
is outside the Court
which is to give the Ruling
in 2 Hours.


Live TRTworldHD

[arista]

In Paris
the Court says Yes raising the age to 64 years


Crowds are angry.

They can not get, near that High Court.

[bots]

will be interesting how this pans out

[joeysteele]

The French going crazy about retirement at 64.

Our lot have pushed our age up to 66, it's planned to be 67 sooner than later too.

We just roll over and take it.
Weak as water.

[Beso]

The French going crazy about retirement at 64.

Our lot have pushed our age up to 66, it's planned to be 67 sooner than later too.

We just roll over and take it.
Weak as water.


You turning into an activist rather than a door to door?

[joeysteele]

You turning into an activist rather than a door to door?

Oh I've been on marches and protests before parmnion.
If I believe action is right then I'll support it in person not from just an armchair.

Door to door campaigning overall is really enjoyable.
Yes you get some vile comments from some extreme individuals.

Most of the time you are actually meeting many nice people.
With interesting and good life experiences and stories.
No matter what their politics are.
Many with problems too to listen to, so many to learn a lot from too.
Which I enjoy immensely.

[Beso]

Oh I've been on marches and protests before parmnion.
If I believe action is right then I'll support it in person not from just an armchair.

Door to door campaigning overall is really enjoyable.
Yes you get some vile comments from some extreme individuals.

Most of the time you are actually meeting many nice people.
With interesting and good life experiences and stories.
No matter what their politics are.
Many with problems too to listen to, so many to learn a lot from too.
Which I enjoy immensely.

I have also protested, usually against the police and paedophile protecting individuals in power.(you can even see me on YouTube doing so)

Your canvassing life also sounds very similar to my old job of fixing the tvs..a job I also enjoyed immensely due to its diversity on every job.

[joeysteele]

I have also protested, usually against the police and paedophile protecting individuals in power.(you can even see me on YouTube doing so)

Your canvassing life also sounds very similar to my old job of fixing the tvs..a job I also enjoyed immensely due to its diversity on every job.

I guess you would get that same interaction with others when fixing TVs too.
I love hearing others life stories and their observations too.
I agree it is really enjoyable and satisfying.

[Beso]

I guess you would get that same interaction with others when fixing TVs too.
I love hearing others life stories and their observations too.
I agree it is really enjoyable and satisfying.


I get it from the warmth of the living room though, so its not the same as you, standing snivelling in the wet outside on the doorstep.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/14/18/69842117-11973887-image-a-31_1681494218305.jpg

Paris tonight.

[arista]

1st of May
Mega Protest in Paris

Police now using Tear Gas

CNN HD Live

[arista]

Macron changed the age
with NO Vote in Parliament

[arista]

One Police Officer
has been Seriously Injured.

Hit by a Petrol Bomb.

[PARIS, May 1 (Reuters) - French police clashed
with hundreds of black-clad anarchists in Paris
and other cities during union-led protests against
President Emmanuel Macron's increase in the
retirement age, as workers staged Labour Day
rallies across Europe.]

[arista]

Over 500 arrested
yesterday.

The Protestor who set that Police Man on Fire
is to be done for attempted murder

SkyNewsHD Paris reporter, update.

This reporter
gives LBC updates

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