Deputy PM Raab has now Resigned/ Oliver Dowden New Deputy PM

[arista]

[Politics latest: Raab bullying report handed
to Number 10 as deputy PM's future
hangs in the balance

Rishi Sunak's spokesperson confirms
the PM received the report this morning
and is 'carefully considering the findings',
but won't offer a timeline for when it
will be published.]


If Sunak lets him stay
some Civil Servants will leave their jobs.

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[bots]

they have to make the report public, so Sunak can't wash it away

[Liam-]

He’ll stick around no matter what the report says, Rishi doesn’t want to look weak to the far right delegation of his party by holding his people accountable for their actions

[arista]

they have to make the report public, so Sunak can't wash it away



Yes, it has been reported
it will go public.



Just Sunak and his team
getting the statement ready

[arista]

He’ll stick around no matter what the report says, Rishi doesn’t want to look weak to the far right delegation of his party by holding his people accountable for their actions


Well then many Civil Servants
will leave....................................



They can Bugger Off

[Kate!]

Well then many Civil Servants
will leave....................................



They can Bugger Off

Yes let them bugger off. 👏

[arista]

10 Downing Street has
said nothing on that report
today.

[Beso]

Rishi, will do exactly what dominic tells him to do. Weak little midget.

[bots]

it's unlikely he is getting sacked. The other guy was fired within minutes of Sunak receiving the report on him

[arista]

Rishi, will do exactly what dominic tells him to do. Weak little midget.


But the Report
may say he Broke Parliament Rules


Dom said if that is the case
he will resign



So anytime soon, he could still resign
today.

Unless we find out Tomorrow
Dom is not guilty and that report clears him...............

[bots]

But the Report
may say he Broke Parliament Rules


Dom said if that is the case
he will resign



So anytime soon, he could still resign
today.

Unless we find out Tomorrow
Dom is not guilty and that report clears him...............

the only person that decides if he broke parliamentary rules is Sunak, so if Sunak doesn't want to sack him, he won't

[arista]

the only person that decides if he broke parliamentary rules is Sunak, so if Sunak doesn't want to sack him, he won't


Of Course


It all down to the Prime Minister Sunak
who has delayed his decision,
which is sneaky.

[Cherie]

Raab said if the report confirmed he was bullying he would resign

[arista]

Raab said if the report confirmed he was bullying he would resign


Yes, we must assume this report
does not say he was a Bully

[joeysteele]

Yes, we must assume this report
does not say he was a Bully

He's probably looking for any way around sacking him or moving him.

If this had in the main cleared Raab of any bullying intent or in fact bullying..
Then I'd think Sunak would have wanted to rush out and declare that.

He'll be looking at how he can present as best a plausible deceit to avoid the need for any action.

As for Raab resigning, he's now crawled up the backside of now at least 4 Prime Ministers.
This PM.however needs Raab onside with him.

So I think more possibly, how it can be presented as plausible to keep him and take no action is being worked out.
Which will be a continuation of the deceit of former Con PMs.

Johnson dismissed a report such as this on Patel.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Sunak sets out to deceive too.

I still think, had it cleared Raab of anything
They'd both, Sunak and Raab, in a probable 'we told you so line' would likely have been screaming that from the rooftops within a couple of hours of seeing the report.

[arista]

Yes Joey

Keeping the report Secret
for 24hours

Sunak is Sneaky...................

[bots]

i agree with Joey. If Sunak was going to sack Raab, it would have been done within minutes of receiving the report. There is no way he didn't know exactly what was in the report before receiving it and now he is looking at how it can be fudged

If he indeed choses not to sack him when all the evidence suggests he should be gone, then it will be the beginning of the end for Sunak and he wont last until the summer

Book mark this post now :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Yes Joey

Keeping the report Secret
for 24hours

Sunak is Sneaky...................

Extremely ..... 'fishy Rishi' indeed in my view.

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[hijaxers]

I saw Gina Miller on Piers Morgan's show last night and she said quite a while back she was in a lift with Raab and when the doors opened he said to her I can't decide if you're a bitch or just naive !

[MTVN]

The report is probably very wishy washy and doesn't make a firm conclusion either way

[joeysteele]

'Wishy washy fishy rishi'.

So his capability of making a correct decision for the Country, his governnent and those who have identified themselves as the probable victims, will be to possibly fudge the issue and only set out to protect him and Raab.
No one else.

I kind of hope he refuses to act and if he leaves Raab who was a hopeless Justice secretary before, a disastrous Foreign secretary, again now a useless Justice secretary and an insult to the office of deputy PM.
Then this is an issue which will not go away at all.

[bots]

i think Sunak comes across really badly on this. After his speech about integrity and accountability, if there was even a sniff of bullying, Rabb should have been out on his ass months ago. Also, Sunak will know perfectly well whether Raab is a bully or not, he doesn't need an investigation, so i find the whole thing rather distasteful. He obviously doesn't want to sack him and that's that. Like i said earlier. This is the beginning of the end for Sunak

[bots]

Raab has resigned

[arista]

Raab has resigned


Yes that's better


Long Report to be released
next week.

[bots]

In the last few moments, Dominic Raab has resigned from his posts as justice secretary and deputy prime minister.

In his resignation letter, Raab says he feels "duty bound to accept the outcome of the inquiry" - but points out that the report by Adam Tolley KC "dismissed all but two of the claims levelled against me".

We've not seen the report yet, we'll bring it to you when we have it.

"I also believe that its two adverse findings are flawed and set a dangerous precedent for the conduct of good government," Raab writes.


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No self awareness at all

[Crimson Dynamo]

In a resignation statement posted on Twitter, Mr Raab said: "Whilst I feel duty
bound to accept the outcome of the inquiry, it dismissed all but two of the
claims levelled against me.

"I also believe that its two adverse findings are flawed and set a dangerous
precedent for the conduct of good government."

Mr Raab added: "In setting the threshold for bullying so low, this inquiry has set
a dangerous precedent. It will encourage spurious complaints against
ministers, and have a chilling effect on those driving change on behalf of your

government - and ultimately the British people."

[bots]

it's like a murder accused of 7 murders saying .... i only did 2 of them

[joeysteele]

What took him so long.

I note he says he doesn't believe he's bullied anyone.
Near all bullies say just that.
They call it fun or banter.
Immaterial of how the ones on the receiving end feel.

Good riddance to him.

[MTVN]

I suspect he was a pretty bad boss but I have a bit of sympathy with the concerns over setting the bar for bullying very low, it will make people feel unable to criticise anyone in the workplace

[Crimson Dynamo]

A stitch up tbh

[arista]

"What took him so long."


Making sure all the legal steps are covered

[bots]

i only came across one bully during my career, but he was a manager and he made peoples lives hell. You can voice your displeasure without bullying, it's easy.

Raab is exactly the type to be a bully, he was adamant that he wouldn't resign unless the report proved he was a bully. The report was done by a lawyer with no skin in the game. He is guilty

If the tories win the next election, i bet he is back in the cabinet then

[Crimson Dynamo]

less than 10% of the accusations were upheld

the BLOB at it again

:idc:

[bots]

less than 10% of the accusations were upheld

the BLOB at it again

:idc:

if only one accusation is upheld, he is guilty

[Crimson Dynamo]

if only one accusation is upheld, he is guilty

guilty of having snowflakes work for him, with a clear agenda

[Liam-]

i only came across one bully during my career, but he was a manager and he made peoples lives hell. You can voice your displeasure without bullying, it's easy.

Raab is exactly the type to be a bully, he was adamant that he wouldn't resign unless the report proved he was a bully. The report was done by a lawyer with no skin in the game. He is guilty

If the tories win the next election, i bet he is back in the cabinet then

Wouldn’t be shocked to see him back in some form by the end of the year

[Alf]

Isn't this the same tactic they tried using on Priti Patel?

Difference is that Boris was a strong leader who stood by his colleague and Sunak is a wet lettuce.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Isn't this the same tactic they tried using on Priti Patel?

Difference is that Boris was a strong leader who stood by his colleague and Sunak is a wet lettuce.

pretty much

[arista]

8 Complaints

Over 4 Departments.


His long letter, has not said sorry.

[arista]

Isn't this the same tactic they tried using on Priti Patel?

Difference is that Boris was a strong leader who stood by his colleague and Sunak is a wet lettuce.


No, this was worse

[joeysteele]

if only one accusation is upheld, he is guilty

Absolutely spot on

[arista]

Possible to take his place
is Liz Frazer MP

[arista]

Angela Rayner MP Live on SkyNewsHD

Westminster Studio.

[user104658]

I suspect he was a pretty bad boss but I have a bit of sympathy with the concerns over setting the bar for bullying very low, it will make people feel unable to criticise anyone in the workplace

Really no way to comment to that effect without knowing the nature and context of the two incidents that were verified to be bullying. It MAY be perfectly clear that the things said and done went clearly beyond professional criticism.

There's literally no excuse I can think of for unprofessional (negative) engagement in any workplace.

[arista]

Like Clockwork.......

LibDems have said they (Ed Davey)
demand a General Election.

Ref: LibDems have 13 MPs

[Crimson Dynamo]

#millennials

[joeysteele]

Like Clockwork.......

LibDems have said they (Ed Davey)
demand a General Election.

Ref: LibDems have 13 MPs


Well Raab had a small kind of majority over the Lib Dems in his Esher and Walton seat.
So it's no surprise the Lib Dems want an election.
By-election or general election.

Neither will happen.
Raab isn't going to resign as an MP.
He cannot be sacked as an MP.

Really though, on this bullying issue of a man who Sunak only months ago, made JUSTICE secretary and made him deputy PM too.
The judgement of Sunak is looking extremely poor indeed.
Because other than this inquiry, Sunak has ended up doing next to nothing at all.

He had the report around midday yesterday.
He knew then the knowledge more than one case was found to be bullying.
Yet he didn't act yesterday, nor by this morning, then all he's done is send a sort of glowing letter to Raab for his service.

There's not been much from either as to the victims of the bullying of Raab who put their jobs and careers on the line by speaking out against it.

Arrogant Sunak is coming across as shocking on this whole chaotic mess.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/DominicRaab/status/1649334236216713219?s=20

[MTVN]

When you hand in a piece of work to Dominic Raab

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[arista]

[Neither will happen.
Raab isn't going to resign as an MP.
He cannot be sacked as an MP.]

Yes Lib Dems
are like a Angry Yorkshire Terrier dog

[arista]

https://twitter.com/AlexChalkChelt

https://www.alexchalk.com/welcome-my-website

Alex Chalk MP
takes his Justice Secretary job.


SkyNewsHD /GBnewsHD Westminster Confirmed

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[arista]

New Deputy PM Oliver Dowden

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[Crimson Dynamo]

New Deputy PM Oliver Dowden

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watch out Ollie as the "shirk from home" civil servant millenials will be out to get you sacked

[Liam-]

Dowden:joker:

[joeysteele]

Alex Chalk is actually a decent MP.

Dowden is another hopeless ornament.

[bots]

Alex Chalk went to Winchester College, the same boarding school that Sunak attended

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[arista]

Raab has given a Interview to 2 News Stations
so far, BBCnewsHD

And GBnewsHD

[Beso]

Another one down.. next!

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[arista]

From SkyNews Newspaper "brief" review

One Civil Servant Lady
was Physically Sick
before going into meet Dom.

[bots]

Lets not forget that Raab was AWOL during the Afghan evacuation. To me that showed exactly what type of person he is

[Cherie]

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Why are they all dressed like that.....that impacts on the planet ....getting unnecessary clothes that match :facepalm:

[arista]

[Why are they all dressed like that.....that impacts on the planet ....getting unnecessary clothes that match]


To get a Front Page
on the Environment

[joeysteele]

Lets not forget that Raab was AWOL during the Afghan evacuation. To me that showed exactly what type of person he is

Watching him whine on yesterday with no real sincere regret for any pressure caused to others was sickening to listen to him.

Whining and griping at everything and everyone else.

Yet the people on the left like myself get branded as whingers.

This guy was deputy PM for goodness sake, how ANYONE could think he was right for that position is beyond all reason and intelligence.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Daily Telegraph snap poll:

Was Dominic Raab right to resign?


Yes 24%

No 76%

30086 VOTES

[arista]

Watching him whine on yesterday with no real sincere regret for any pressure caused to others was sickening to listen to him.

Whining and griping at everything and everyone else.

Yet the people on the left like myself get branded as whingers.

This guy was deputy PM for goodness sake, how ANYONE could think he was right for that position is beyond all reason and intelligence.


Yes, he also gave an interview
to GBnewsHD
yesterday.
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As Lovely Olivia went to his constituency
made more effort that USA owned Comcast
SkyNewsHD


Joey give him Credit
for Resigning
at least

[joeysteele]

Raab technically wasn't necessarily (possibly) rght to resign.

He SHOULD have been SACKED by this hopeless weak fishy PM we have now.
Who no one's heard from in days now.

Since PMQs in fact.

[bots]

in days gone by, being sacked would mean they are finished in terms of future cabinet roles. That no longer applies. Like most of the tory cabinet, Raab has been punching above his weight for years. He is incompetent and that's why he and other tory cabinet members have had to resort to bullying, they don't have the intelligence and knowledge to do anything else

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1649454258662637571?s=20

[arista]

['I have no doubt that Raab was absolutely right
to call the civil servant 'utterly useless'.]

Yes, there are some they must improve.

[arista]

Jacob Live on SkyNewsHD
asked are these high up Civil Servants "Wet Whips"

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