WILL BEST: "Diverse group of real, normal people"

[Sawyer]

During a chat on HEART RADIO, Will Best has said:

"It's going to be a diverse group of real, normal people, and that is what makes Big Brother so good. You know when you think back to the iconic moments that we've seen over the years, obviously Celebrity Big Brother gave us some great stuff but a lot of those moments are from real people, you know?"

Also comments on a "new house" being built but does not know location...

https://www.globalplayer.com/videos/2JsSZ9tJ5bU/

[Niamh.]

That sounds encouraging :fc:

[Oliver_W]

Nice!

Did I miss his official confirmation?

[Niamh.]

Nice!

Did I miss his official confirmation?

https://twitter.com/ITVX/status/1650775401130774535?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1650775401130774535%7Ctwgr% 5E0888175902744b6554752ebe228e4e86e046a21f%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=

[Crimson Dynamo]

"diverse"

:suspect:

[Niamh.]

"diverse"

:suspect:

I don't care what that means, as long as they're just ordinary people who went through the audition process and not through talent agencies and aren't Love island wannabes

[Nicky91]

mentioning the word ''real'' two times hmmmmm

we'll see

but tbh i hope for you guys, the castings are as good as here with ours



although we here last year even had a 60+ who considered herself an influencer, and thx to BB she now is more famous, on youtube with her vlogs like ''Cooking with Kitty'' :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

The last C5 series they were too "normal" though. It was like they just visited a few northern council estates and asked who would be interested in going on tv.

[Oliver_W]

"diverse"

:suspect:

Does it matter? BB6+7 were probably the most diverse, and they were among the best.

As long as there weren't quotas or box-ticking, as long as it was organic and the most interesting people were cast regardless of surface level traits ... who cares?

[Oliver_W]

The last C5 series they were too "normal" though. It was like they just visited a few northern council estates and asked who would be interested in going on tv.

Better than the likes of BB15, just full of wannabes.

[Cherie]

Diverse doesn’t just mean black people ......:facepalm:

[Mystic Mock]

"diverse"

:suspect:

Basically it could be like Ch4 BB where everyone didn't have to be from the South of England.

[Cherie]

Basically it could be like Ch4 BB where everyone didn't have to be from the South of England.

or diverse backgrounds or diverse religions or diverse sexuality or diverse countries, it could literally mean anything :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id imagine the viewers actually want representative rather than some millennial producer's virtual signaling fantasy

[Niamh.]

or diverse backgrounds or diverse religions or diverse sexuality or diverse countries, it could literally mean anything :laugh:

basically when i hear diverse, I just imagine they mean - not full of 20 something year old Love island wannabes

[Crimson Dynamo]

basically when i hear diverse, I just imagine they mean - not full of 20 something year old Love island wannabes

:fc:

[Cherie]

basically when i hear diverse, I just imagine they mean - not full of 20 something year old Love island wannabes

that too!

[arista]

LT doesn’t like seeing black people on his telly obviously


You Talk Bollocks

[Cherie]

You Talk Bollocks

Drag him

[Mystic Mock]

or diverse backgrounds or diverse religions or diverse sexuality or diverse countries, it could literally mean anything :laugh:

Which for BB is not actually a bad thing, it's one of only a handful of Shows that I can think of that suits the forced diversity quotas imo.

As long as the fanbase and production doesn't basically turn it into what BBUSA's done where white people, Hispanics, and Asian contestants were heavily disadvantaged and hated on because they weren't black, then all shall be good in that particular area imo.

And to anyone that tries to tell me that The Cookout and Taylor had fair and legitimate wins I will honestly laugh, I have seen black contestants win Reality TV Shows fair and square before, but those two really weren't fair by any real metric imo.

[GoldHeart]

The best thing BB can do regarding the 'diverse' thing is by having a huge range in age groups and all from very ordinary backgrounds and no instagram model wannabes, the last one back in 2018 didn't have anyone over 32 did it?? :facepalm:.

Why don't they throw in a few 40+ and a few over 50's and even the odd 60 something year old . I'm so fed up of a overflow of 20 year olds :rolleyes:. But i have a feeling the majority of the contestants will be in their 20's as per usual which i honestly find boring :notimpressed:.

In fact we should all guess the type of contestants they'll put in.

* 3 gay people
* 2 bisexual
* 1 trans
* 1 non binary
* 2 black
*1 Mixed race
*2 Asian
* 1 Hispanic
* 1 posh conservative
* 1 vegan cat owner
* 1 loud American
* Someone with a disability

If i'm right or even close to it then i'll toast a glass to my psychic powers .

[arista]

More Posh Conservatives is a Good one



https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article546086.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/000DA784-D898-129A-997C80BFB6FA0000.jpg



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/26/23/33664564-8776743-image-a-28_1601159616304.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776743/DEREK-LAUD-dont-Lib-Dems-welcome-black-voices-like-mine.html
2020


The Former one.

[GoldHeart]

More Posh Conservatives is a Good one


https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article546086.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/000DA784-D898-129A-997C80BFB6FA0000.jpg



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/26/23/33664564-8776743-image-a-28_1601159616304.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776743/DEREK-LAUD-dont-Lib-Dems-welcome-black-voices-like-mine.html
2020


The Former one.

I wasn't a fan , but he played the game and lasted a while.

[arista]

They should Avoid Trans
too Extreme
they do not want the show Bloody Hijacked
by Extremists outside the studio site

[Mystic Mock]

I'll guess.

1 EDL member, or sympathies with the EDL ideology
1 Incel
1 Muslim
2 Scottish contestants
1 Transwoman
1 hardcore Feminist
1 Welsh contestant
2 gay contestants
1 Lesbian
3 black contestants
1 hardcore Vegan
1 hardcore Carnivore

[arista]

I'll guess.

1 EDL member, or sympathies with the EDL ideology
1 Incel
1 Muslim
2 Scottish contestants
1 Transwoman
1 hardcore Feminist
1 Welsh contestant
2 gay contestants
1 Lesbian
3 black contestants
1 hardcore Vegan
1 hardcore Carnivore






Take that one out
due to Political Problems,
The rest is fine


A Incel would be funny

[Nicky91]

They should Avoid Trans
too Extreme
they do not want the show Bloody Hijacked
by Extremists outside the studio site

arista exposed as transphobic

[Mystic Mock]

Take that one out
due to Political Problems,
The rest is fine


A Incel would be funny

That's all of the more reason why a Transperson will be selected.

BB love controversy.

Oh and Incels are ready made for BB, completely deranged and cannot self-reflect at all.:joker:

[Liam-]

Someone just existing as who they are being considered ‘controversial’ is such a horrendous mindset

[Niamh.]

Did a little bit of digging last night and found one of the casting researchers for Big Brother. This seems to be what they were looking for…?

https://i.postimg.cc/MnKJyF26/IMG-5121.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MnKJyF26)

They've covered pretty much every possibility there which is good I guess but the Instagram/TikTokers? hhmmm

[joe199998293]

I hope the “cast the next generation of reality TV stars” doesn’t mean they’re just looking for influencers

[Niamh.]

I hope the “cast the next generation of reality TV stars” doesn’t mean they’re just looking for influencers

Sounds a little like that but they also mentioned other things like age diversity, different communities etc so that's hopeful

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did a little bit of digging last night and found one of the casting researchers for Big Brother. This seems to be what they were looking for…?

https://i.postimg.cc/MnKJyF26/IMG-5121.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MnKJyF26)

:rolleyes:

so its exactly as we feared

https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

[GoldHeart]

That's all of the more reason why a Transperson will be selected.

BB love controversy.

Oh and Incels are ready made for BB, completely deranged and cannot self-reflect at all.:joker:

How is an incel going to interact and be a team player??,but then again.... There's been all-sorts of weird previous housemates through history with mental issues. As i said before... I think producers enjoy it when they're a little unstable.

[arista]

arista exposed as transphobic

Not at all.


But Politically
it is now a problem

[joe199998293]

Not at all.


But Politically
it is now a problem

It’s not a political problem, trans people just want rights lol. Coming across very transphobic

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Arista

Stop denying trans women exist

:oh:

[GoldHeart]

It’s not a political problem, trans people just want rights lol. Coming across very transphobic

You do know that Nadia was only put in BB5 because she was trans, and so Davina could have a little " I know something you don't know" moment with the contestants that got evicted.
The amount of times Davina would reveal to some of the evicted contestants " Nadia use to be a Man " . She took such pleasure in revealing the bombshell ,that was basically the main focus like some cheap exploitation gag.

To make it worse Nadia went in there and kept it a secret , even when asked if she wanted kids ....instead of being honest she just said she 'can't have kids ' . She goes on to win the show mainly due to how her time in BB was orchestrated in her favour. I guess people found it funny for her to deceive the other hm's... Davina especially found it amusing .

It was all done in such weird way just to be controversial for ratings. If you're going to have a trans person....why must they keep their identity a secret for a joke ??.

Then Nadia's family awkwardly describe her as 'honest' , despite the fact she kept that huge secret whilst living with strangers.

[bbuk_fans]

Did a little bit of digging last night and found one of the casting researchers for Big Brother. This seems to be what they were looking for…?

https://i.postimg.cc/MnKJyF26/IMG-5121.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MnKJyF26)

I'm confused by this... this looks to me a screenshot from a LinkedIn profile. If its genuine, then that person doesn't work in that position anymore as shown in the October-November 2022.

Applications are still open. I'm not saying outreach by production to potential housemates haven't happened, I just would say this shouldn't be taken as a "hears what we're definitely casting" because there's still the application process open.

[joe199998293]

You do know that Nadia was only put in BB5 because she was trans, and so Davina could have a little " I know something you don't know" moment with the contestants that got evicted.
The amount of times Davina would reveal to some of the evicted contestants " Nadia use to be a Man " . She took such pleasure in revealing the bombshell ,that was basically the main focus like some cheap exploitation gag.

To make it worse Nadia went in there and kept it a secret , even when asked if she wanted kids ....instead of being honest she just said she 'can't have kids ' . She goes on to win the show mainly due to how her time in BB was orchestrated in her favour. I guess people found it funny for her to deceive the other hm's... Davina especially found it amusing .

It was all done in such weird way just to be controversial for ratings. If you're going to have a trans person....why must they keep their identity a secret for a joke ??.

Then Nadia's family awkwardly describe her as 'honest' , despite the fact she kept that huge secret whilst living with strangers.

Why is it an issue for someone to keep their gender identity a secret? If someone doesn’t want to tell people, they don’t have to. Especially in a time like this when everyone is so hateful.

[GoldHeart]

Why is it an issue for someone to keep their gender identity a secret? If someone doesn’t want to tell people, they don’t have to. Especially in a time like this when everyone is so hateful.

If you're living with a group of people for 3 months you don't think you should tell people your gender??.

As for your daily life basis you don't have to tell people,but I disagree with keeping it a secret at the expense of others.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you're living with a group of people for 3 months you don't think you should tell people your gender??.

As for your daily life basis you don't have to tell people,but I disagree with keeping it a secret at the expense of others.

i think everyone pretty much know what biological sex Nadia was lol

[GoldHeart]

i think everyone pretty much know what biological sex Nadia was lol

Whilst I'll agree some of the hm's had a feeling about Nadia, it was still a shock for some of the other hm's .....Ahmed didn't have a clue. And I don't remember Stuart ever knowing until later?.

[MTVN]

Don't see why Nadia should have told them tbf. It's not like the housemates are marrying each other, they're free to disclose as much or as little as they like about their lives pre-show

[GoldHeart]

Don't see why Nadia should have told them tbf. It's not like the housemates are marrying each other, they're free to disclose as much or as little as they like about their lives pre-show

Oh come on she was used as a circus football to either laugh at or be shocked at . If they just let her be honest at the time then it would have had a better outcome for everyone. I know transgender was a new thing back then ,but the way they handled it didn't help.

They might not have been marrying eachother but they were sleeping close together,same room and living together for 3 months plus they were all getting drunk and intimate with eachother.

If you think it's fine to keep that secret??...then where do we draw the line. Will BB producers next have a contestant who pretends they are trans just for views ??.

Keeping her identity a secret , just reminds me of that awful reality show 'There's something about Miriam ' which was exploitive and unfair & immoral to everyone involved.

[MTVN]

Oh come on she was used as a circus football to either laugh at or be shocked at . If they just let her be honest at the time then it would have had a better outcome for everyone. I know transgender was a new thing back then ,but the way they handled it didn't help.

They might not have been marrying eachother but they were sleeping close together,same room and living together for 3 months plus they were all getting drunk and intimate with eachother.

If you think it's fine to keep that secret??...then where do we draw the line. Will BB producers next have a contestant who pretends they are trans just for views ??.

Keeping her identity a secret , just reminds me of that awful reality show 'There's something about Miriam ' which was exploitive and unfair & immoral to everyone involved.

I never watched that series tbh haha so can't comment on the specifics of how the issue was treated.

As a principle though I really don't see why someone should feel obliged to tell the others if they're trans. Lots of housemates will have pasts that they didn't reveal to their fellow housemates. At the time she went into the house she was a woman so what does it matter if she used to be a man?

[Alf]

It’s not a political problem, trans people just want rights lol. Coming across very transphobicWhat rights specifically do they want that they don't already have?

[Alf]

Why is it an issue for someone to keep their gender identity a secret? If someone doesn’t want to tell people, they don’t have to. Especially in a time like this when everyone is so hateful."Everyone is so hateful"

Does everyone include yourself and all of your friends and family.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Everyone is so hateful"

Does everyone include yourself and all of your friends and family.

he means that people don't agree with all his views and so must be framed as hateful or phobic

Alf its a much easier way for a Gen Z or millennial to argue about stuff - less typing

will you let them live?

[joe199998293]

I’m hardly trying to argue with anyone. I just don’t see how someone keeping their trans identity hidden, has anything to do with anyone else. If they don’t feel comfortable sharing that in a certain environment, they don’t have to.

It baffles me why some people are so bothered about what genitalia someone has or how they choose to express themselves. Unless they choose to share that fact, it shouldn’t have anything to do with anybody else.

I don’t care if people don’t share my views, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. I just don’t understand the big issue with trans or people not being open about it. I’m not trans myself, but if I was, I would be too scared to come out now, and especially 5/10 years ago. When I say that all they want is rights, they just want to be accepted, and not to be alienated, or everything about them have to be something to do with their gender identity. Trans is only ‘political’ because people against trans people have made it political. All they want to do is live their lives in piece, yet they just get constantly targeted by the media, leading to more and more people targeting them online, thus leading it to being political. Just let them be.

[GoldHeart]

I never watched that series tbh haha so can't comment on the specifics of how the issue was treated.

As a principle though I really don't see why someone should feel obliged to tell the others if they're trans. Lots of housemates will have pasts that they didn't reveal to their fellow housemates. At the time she went into the house she was a woman so what does it matter if she used to be a man?

I have to disagree

If you're living with someone closely for 3 months , surely you would want to know?

And the media had a field day ,I remember seeing in a magazine an image of Nadia before she transitioned .... So clearly she was treated as some experiment, for BB producers to get ratings and cause drama.

[GoldHeart]

I’m hardly trying to argue with anyone. I just don’t see how someone keeping their trans identity hidden, has anything to do with anyone else. If they don’t feel comfortable sharing that in a certain environment, they don’t have to.

It baffles me why some people are so bothered about what genitalia someone has or how they choose to express themselves. Unless they choose to share that fact, it shouldn’t have anything to do with anybody else.

I don’t care if people don’t share my views, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. I just don’t understand the big issue with trans or people not being open about it. I’m not trans myself, but if I was, I would be too scared to come out now, and especially 5/10 years ago. When I say that all they want is rights, they just want to be accepted, and not to be alienated, or everything about them have to be something to do with their gender identity. Trans is only ‘political’ because people against trans people have made it political. All they want to do is live their lives in piece, yet they just get constantly targeted by the media, leading to more and more people targeting them online, thus leading it to being political. Just let them be.


I'll agree that the average trans person / people just want to live their lives in peace . But you can't deny there's a rise in these angry activists who wish harm on women and anyone who disagrees with their ideology??.

And it makes no sense what you're saying about Nadia,if she didn't want to tell anyone she was trans then why did she tell the BB producers and Davina before going in . Plus all the viewers knew anyway so why not tell everyone in the BB house ??? ...so it was like some bad joke that the other hm's were not aware of .

Like I said the media had a field day.

[Oliver_W]

Meh, unless she was sharing a double bed with a woman or showering with one, does it matter that she's really a man?

[arista]

It’s not a political problem, trans people just want rights lol. Coming across very transphobic


It becomes a Political problem
like in Colleges today

[joe199998293]

I'll agree that the average trans person / people just want to live their lives in peace . But you can't deny there's a rise in these angry activists who wish harm on women and anyone who disagrees with their ideology??.

And it makes no sense what you're saying about Nadia,if she didn't want to tell anyone she was trans then why did she tell the BB producers and Davina before going in . Plus all the viewers knew anyway so why not tell everyone in the BB house ??? ...so it was like some bad joke that the other hm's were not aware of .

Like I said the media had a field day.

All depends which side of it you’re on tbh. All I see online, is trans people being attacked, no matter what they do, they get attacked for it. Then I’m reaction, trans people and allies defend themselves, and the media still attacks them and labels them as ‘angry’ for just defending themselves. If they weren’t attacked so much in the first place, I’m sure trans people wouldn’t talk about it so much.

I completely understand what you’re saying, but you can’t really put yourself in her shoes because (presumably) you’re not trans. Not gonna lie, I never watched that series, so I can’t talk about what went on. But from what you’ve said, it does sound very exploitive from the producers, which is disgusting imo.

I’m not trans, but as a gay man, I feel like I can understand (some) of the struggles trans people face, with issues coming out / being accepted. If I was on that series, I probably would tell the casting team that I was gay, but I doubt I would have felt comfortable with announcing that to the house, even though everyone could probably tell I am, you never know what reactions you will get or if people are going to alienate you for it. It’s the same situation. If she doesn’t want to disclose that, she doesn’t really have to.

[joe199998293]

It becomes a Political problem
like in Colleges today

It’s a political problem because anti trans people have made it political. All they want to do is get on with their life and be accepted for how they identity. It shouldn’t have anything to do with anyone else, but themselves.

Yet when they constantly receive political backlash from the media and anti-trans activist, of course it’s going to become political.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s a political problem because anti trans people have made it political. All they want to do is get on with their life and be accepted for how they identity. It shouldn’t have anything to do with anyone else, but themselves.

Yet when they constantly receive political backlash from the media and anti-trans activist, of course it’s going to become political.


Like JK Rowling attacking them?

[arista]

It’s a political problem because anti trans people have made it political. All they want to do is get on with their life and be accepted for how they identity. It shouldn’t have anything to do with anyone else, but themselves.

Yet when they constantly receive political backlash from the media and anti-trans activist, of course it’s going to become political.


Sure, it takes 2 sides to get this far

[GoldHeart]

Meh, unless she was sharing a double bed with a woman or showering with one, does it matter that she's really a man?


Didn't Stuart and Jason get intimate with Nadia in drunken dare games?? . I just don't understand why she would keep it from the hm's when literally everyone else outside of the BB house already knew . Like I said Davina enjoyed the secret a bit too much when revealing it to housemates.

[Nicky91]

Like JK Rowling attacking them?

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/WIaQbu0weTY_j5o5FfrTlAUoUOo/diocontent/208828254/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8

as if she can attack anyone, i bet she can't even hit a fly

[Niamh.]

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/WIaQbu0weTY_j5o5FfrTlAUoUOo/diocontent/208828254/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8

as if she can attack anyone, i bet she can't even hit a fly

Is this supposed to be some sort of an insult? :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is this supposed to be some sort of an insult? :laugh:

its his incel phase currently

[Nicky91]

JK for BB host instead :fc:

[Mystic Mock]

Someone just existing as who they are being considered ‘controversial’ is such a horrendous mindset

I get where you're coming from.

However the Trans community at the moment are controversial, rightly or wrongly, and BB will utilize the controversy for ratings.

[Mystic Mock]

How is an incel going to interact and be a team player??,but then again.... There's been all-sorts of weird previous housemates through history with mental issues. As i said before... I think producers enjoy it when they're a little unstable.

You're right that the production love an unstable contestant.

Just look at Craig Coates from BB6.

[Mystic Mock]

I have to disagree

If you're living with someone closely for 3 months , surely you would want to know?

And the media had a field day ,I remember seeing in a magazine an image of Nadia before she transitioned .... So clearly she was treated as some experiment, for BB producers to get ratings and cause drama.

Tbf Nadia wasn't in a relationship with anyone in the house, so it's not like they needed to know.

[GoldHeart]

Tbf Nadia wasn't in a relationship with anyone in the house, so it's not like they needed to know.


I know she wasn't in any romantic relationships in the house. tbh i don't really class a romantic relationship in the BB house as authentic anyway until they leave and still continue it, but that's another topic lol.

But didn't Stuart & Jason get touchy feely with her in a game of dare ??. I remember that series of BB being wild in the sexual theme.. it seemed most of them got flirty .

[GoldHeart]

You're right that the production love an unstable contestant.

Just look at Craig Coates from BB6.

Craig was on another planet , he was cringy to watch.

[Mystic Mock]

I know she wasn't in any romantic relationships in the house. tbh i don't really class a romantic relationship in the BB house as authentic anyway until they leave and still continue it, but that's another topic lol.

But didn't Stuart & Jason get touchy feely with her in a game of dare ??. I remember that series of BB being wild in the sexual theme.. it seemed most of them got flirty .

I suppose I would judge the severity of that based on if Stuart or Jason ever do an interview saying that they were uncomfortable about getting touchy feely with Nadia during the game.

[Nicky91]

this years first flemish and oldest winner so far of ours Bart is a nice example of no typical BB contestant whatsoever

a para-commando military officer, whom has went to many warzones in his career

you'd also think he comes across as too strict, too aggressive but in fact he was very likeable dad figure of the group, and the one whom most of the time was super relaxed, also the one who spent most time in the hot tub :fan: however his military background was of good use to him in terms of discipline not spending any coins on luxury products at all for himself :worship: just a few times and then for some others

my fave moment of his was when he said thank you to fellow hm Jolien when he was allowed to hug his daughter in a freeze challenge, and he bought a donut from the wall for her and placed that near her bed :love:

[madman411]

I remember BB5 and Nadia. It was scandalous, even for then. I was very glad when she won. 2004 and 2023 are two completely different times though. I would practically guarantee there will be a trans person in the house this year and I would also optimistically assume that they will be open about who they are.

[BBDodge]

They'd do well to find a transperson as entertaining as Nadia, or even Luke A who stood out as a decent bloke in a house of vipers.