🎶🎵🎸🥁Eurovision 2024🎷🪇🎵🎶

[UserSince2005]

Given the shenanigans of the 2023 thread, I think it’s best I create this now before we have another **** show.

So, can we expect the host city to be Malmo?

[Denver]

I think its almost certain going to be Stockholm

[UserSince2005]

I think its almost certain going to be Stockholm

What makes you say that?

[Denver]

What makes you say that?

Its 50 years since Abba won and they took the contest to Stockholm

[UserSince2005]

Its 50 years since Abba won and they took the contest to Stockholm

Ah makes sense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It will be an Abba special!

:amazed:

[UserSince2005]

It will be an Abba special!

:amazed:

I’m sure the Eurovision all stars will sing an ABBA medley. Like the Liverpool songs medley this year.

[arista]

Sweden, gets it.

Loads of BBC Workers on long Jolly's

[Gusto Brunt]

I haven't watched it since I was about 12. It's so dull. :p

[Mystic Mock]

I haven't watched it since I was about 12. It's so dull. :p

I don't think you'd call Croatia's entry this year dull.:laugh:

[Zizu]

I haven't watched it since I was about 12. It's so dull. :p


It’s worth watching ( even on mute ) just for the lighting / laser shows for each performance


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[Gusto Brunt]

It’s worth watching ( even on mute ) just for the lighting / laser shows for each performance


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I don't think you'd call Croatia's entry this year dull.:laugh:

Maybe, but I mean the whole event, long and drawn out.:sleep:

[Zizu]

Maybe, but I mean the whole event, long and drawn out.:sleep:


I usually record this type of thing and then fast forward through all the crud .. same with BGT etc


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[Nicky91]

am looking forward to Luxembourg, what they have to offer these days

the former powerhouse nation


and who else is returning

maybe Andorra, Susanna Georgi gives it another attempt


Monaco could be likely, with new broadcaster which launches this september


Bosnia & Herzegovina, their first artist Fazla is working on their return too

[Mystic Mock]

I would like to see Turkiye give it a shot again.

[Nicky91]

I would like to see Turkiye give it a shot again.

depends on second round of elections if Erdogan loses ;)


his opponent said he wants Turkiye back at ESC

[Mystic Mock]

depends on second round of elections if Erdogan loses ;)


his opponent said he wants Turkiye back at ESC

And give MAnGa the win that they deserved the first time around.:dance:

[Nicky91]

Turkiye not returning then to this stupid gayfest



i love turkish music so much though

[Nicky91]

although i wasn't counting on their return lol as they got such shady elections


Monaco though seems quite likely with their return with a new broadcaster


Montenegro i hope so too, same goes with North Macedonia



and i hope Susanna Georgi has more luck this time around for Andorra's comeback



i'd love for Morocco to join us again for a second participation (would be 44 yrs since their debut in 1980) and we do need some arab language representation again tbh, otherwise i'll also be happy about a Qatar debut



i hope Romania is staying but opting internal selection this time around, their NF is clearly not working anymore and they do have good artists (many at Cat Music label are fab, i listen to many of that one's releases, very cheesy, summer pop vibes)



Greece might go for a national final concept maybe, to give greek public a chance to decide their entry again

[UserSince2005]

Malmo is confirmed as the host city.

[Crimson Dynamo]

great to have an official thread going forward

[UserSince2005]

I think its almost certain going to be Stockholm

Awkward for this to be the second post on the Eurovision 2024: Malmo thread.

Miss Netta 2.0

[UserSince2005]

Spoiler of 2024 results

1. Sweden (plastic generic pop song)
2. Luxembourg (plastic generic pop song)
3. Norway (plastic generic pop song)
4. UK (plastic generic pop song)
5. Cyprus (plastic generic pop song)


:fan:


not watching that trash



only gonna follow the national selections to discover new artists, new music, all sorts of languages

Spoiler 6. Netherlands fail to qualify

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spoiler 6. Netherlands fail to qualify

:joker:

[Nicky91]

what we know so far

Luxembourg: national final
Cyprus: talent show/reality show selection method of some sort ''big brother'' style
Estonia: Eesti Laul 2024
Finland: UMK 2024
Iceland: Songvakeppnin 2024
Ireland: not confirmed yet what selection method but likely Late Late Show NF or a revamped version of it, submissions are open anyway
Israel: The Next Star 2024
Italy: likely Sanremo 2024
Malta: Malta Eurovision Song Contest 2024
Norway: Melodi Grand Prix 2024
Spain: Benidorm Fest 2024
Sweden: Melodifestivalen 2024


Austria: internal selection
Switzerland: internal jury selection through songwriting camp

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rumours

Greece: might consider bringing a national final back

Netherlands: a return of the Nationaal Songfestival is mentioned

Moldova: not confirmed officially but i guess Etapa Nationala

Croatia: likely Dora 2024

Denmark: likely Dansk Melodi Grand Prix 2024

Portugal: very likely Festival Da Cancao 2024

Poland: probably a national final

Czechia: due to recent success with Vesna, We Are Domi, another ESCZ national final?

San Marino: could be Una Voce Per San Marino 2024, unless someone with money demands an internal selection

Slovenia: i'd say either internal with a big name, or return to the EMA national selection


Belgium: its wallonia now, so internal selection with some unknown young rising talent i guess (2025 might be eurosong national final again with flanders i think)

Latvia: Supernova 2024 i think

Lithuania: Pabandom Is Naujo 2024 very likely

Romania: return to internal selection if they are in, also could see them going into a more fun uptempo route again after this years disasters 0 points (which public are mainly to blame for, when they had a uptempo banger in the NF, Perinita Mea who would've done better)


France: could be a return to the 2021/2022 national final concept after this years internal flop with La Zarra :think:


Ukraine: Vidbir 2024 from that bunker venue i think

Azerbaijan: internal selection, going for something from swedish composers to play it safer i guess

Armenia: Depi Evratesil if no big names apply, otherwise internal

Georgia: maybe The Voice of Georgia, or internal selection
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yet to confirm participation countries

Albania: very likely with Festival I Kenges
Serbia: likely with Pezma Za Evroviziju
Germany: i think Unser Lied fur Malmo

[Nicky91]

re Switzerland: their songwriting camp is simple

artists can work with composers/producers from all over the world to come up with possible ESC entries, these get judged by a panel usually consisting out of 10 or 12 international jurors whom after closely listening decide whom represents the Swiss at ESC


Austria does internals yes, but their HoD usually teases through clues which 3 are shortlisted by an expert jury


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Malta's MESC is a huge competition on its own

4 quarter finals, 2 semi finals and a grand final :cool: and in the final they have lots of guest act intervals as well

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San Marino basically anyone can submit songs there from any country worldwide, as long as you have the funds to participate

[Nicky91]

how many countries in ESC2024

i think 40 or 41 could be possible again


Monaco: very likely with the new broadcaster launching next month
North Macedonia: they have enough funds to keep participating in junior eurovision, and they broadcasted the contest this year too with hopes of returning in 2024 so yeah maybe they're back, hopefully with something in macedonian again and not too westernized
Montenegro: they have no huge financial problems, but they want to keep being competitive with a healthy budget, they could easily return with some bigger name like one of the Polumenta's (Sako or Dado or recently debuted new artist Adina) so we'll see as for them



Turkiye accepting Sweden into NATO, let this contest be hosted in Sweden, relations between them are very improved as of today what we know, they haven't said anything yet so idk


Andorra: Susanna Georgi her plan part 2 of bringing them back, last time she had no luck in doing so, but she keeps trying, and she wants a team up between andorrans and catalonians in terms of sharing each others artists

[Nicky91]

Malmo is confirmed as the host city.

not much other choice when Taylor Swift had claimed Stockholm as hers

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/ESCdiscord/status/1678702246085664768

[Nicky91]

lost my interest in this again then


stupid trash AVROTROS broadcaster, lazy idiots :idc:



you guys say defund bbc, well i say #DefundNPO

[arista]

https://twitter.com/ESCdiscord/status/1678702246085664768

Very Small Nation
as if they matter

[Nicky91]

Very Small Nation
as if they matter

:hehe:

how wrong you are in this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest


they have won the contest 5 times, and finished 3rd twice as well as many top 10 results

with just 3 last place results



they launched careers of superstars such as Nana Mouskouri, Vicky Leandros, Anne-Marie David, France Gall

they even had Plastic Bertrand representing them back in the day, as well as another huge name in Lara Fabian (in the year of Celine Dion's global breakthrough where Lara finished in a respectable 4th place with Croire)

they also had spanish duo Baccara representing them



one of their current active singers Luka Kloser
oW0JVT43Ngs

whom made this song for the film Moonfall

she's the daughter of their 1984 Eurovision presenter Desiree Nosbusch :cool:

[Nicky91]

so whoever represents them in 2024, has big boots to fill and must be someone who can handle the nerves of representing such a powerhouse nation back in ESC's Golden Days

[Nicky91]

i want to be in Ireland's committee

one artist suggestion from me

Cian Ducrot, to bring us back to the final and a top 5 result potential as well with this vocal superstar

[Nicky91]

Belgium's act confirmed

actor and singer Mustii

example of his style and live vocals

cWw3pr1xl-g

very Hozier alike :clap1:

[Nicky91]

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/SxsbEkZGMQCyT_Mm1yf69cgsHjg/diocontent/234721727/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8

[Nicky91]

only 20 participating countries for 2024


Austria
Azerbaijan
Belgium (Mustii)
Cyprus
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
San Marino
Spain
Sweden
Ukraine
United Kingdom

[Nicky91]

all of the songs MUST be in english, is a new rule by the EBU

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/SxsbEkZGMQCyT_Mm1yf69cgsHjg/diocontent/234721727/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8

why on earth is he standing like that?

what a twat

[UserSince2005]

all of the songs MUST be in english, is a new rule by the EBU

Are you a liar? Yes you are.

[UserSince2005]

why on earth is he standing like that?

what a twat

hes an artiste

[Nicky91]

confirmed artists so far

Belgium: Mustii
Cyprus: Silia Kapsis (composer: Dimitris Kontopoulos)




returning countries (so far)

Luxembourg
North Macedonia

[Nicky91]

Sweden: Melodifestivalen 2024
Norway: Melodi Grand Prix 2024
Lithuania: Eurovizija.LT
Malta: MESC 2024
Albania: Festival I Kenges
Portugal: Festival Da Cancao
Ireland: The Late Late Show Eurosong
Germany: Das Deutsche Finale 2024
Czechia: ESCZ 2024
Finland: UMK 2024
Luxembourg: yet to be named national final
Iceland: Songvakepninn 2024
Serbia: Pezma Za Evroviziju 2024
Moldova: quite likely Etapa Nationala 2024 (there will be live auditions anyway, afterwards will decide on eventual selection method)
San Marino: Un Voce Per San Marino 2024
Italy: SanRemo Festival 2024
Spain: Benidorm Fest 2024




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Netherlands: internal selection as usual, record breaking amount of 600 submitted entries

in languages like english, dutch, arabic, turkish, italian, spanish, french

from pop to rock, to hip hop to operatic

[Nicky91]

Switzerland will go for their Internal Jury Show Selection as usual, with songwriting camp and a international jury to decide who will be their entry for Malmo

[Nicky91]

Greece coming for the win with Marina Satti with an ethnic greek song

[Nicky91]

shaping up to be the best edition yet

Belgium: Mustii
Greece: Marina Satti



Albania quite likely Elsa Lila

Czechia likely being queen of artistry Lenny


Montenegro hopefully returning with a banger by their daddy Dado Polumenta


Sweden finally going with superstar Dotter

[Nicky91]

another entry confirmed

Moldova: Natalia Barbu - In The Middle

[Nicky91]

omg yasss Lithuania has a english/korean song in their selection :clap1: here for lithuania embracing the K-Pop scene :dazzler:

[Black Dagger]

another entry confirmed

Moldova: Natalia Barbu - In The Middle

No it hasn’t

[Nicky91]

No it hasn’t

it's going to be her, 110% sure of it, lol since 1) she's the only big name and only known artist 2) married to a millionaire duh


hoping for a similar staging as Tattoo for Loreen

[Nicky91]

HnLO2CMNhn4

Loreen vibes all over for me

same i can't speak english but i do try to vibes as well :laugh3:

[UserSince2005]

Israel has to win this after what awful horrors they have been through.

[Nicky91]

Israel has to win this after what awful horrors they have been through.

they will very likely receive many boo's if they won't withdraw last minute that is

[Nicky91]

hope Belgium is in our semi tbh, so i can vote for them, and i already know i'd do that 110% sure, i am in love with Mustii's sound, perfect 80s vibes

[Maxxie.]

they will very likely receive many boo's if they won't withdraw last minute that is

I hope you're right Nicky

[Nicky91]

I hope you're right Nicky

of course, Israel ain't getting sympathies unlike Ukraine ;)

[Nicky91]

my NF season favourites

Croatia

- Misha: One Day
- Boris Stok: Can We Talk



Latvia

- Dons: Hollow




the year of dark ballads :clap1:

[Nicky91]

gonna be a superstrong year i feel


many A-Lister artists

Greece: Marina Satti
Belgium: Mustii
Norway: Gate
Netherlands: Joost Klein
France: Slimane
Spain: Nebulossa
Czechia: Aiko
Israel: Eden Golan
Albania: Besa
Luxembourg: Tali Golergant
Slovenia: Raiven
Ireland: Bambie Thug
Malta: Sarah Bonnici
Ukraine: Alyona Alyona & Jerry Heil
UK: Olly Alexander
Georgia: Nutsa Buzaladze
Austria: Kaleen
Cyprus: Silia Kapsis (the song Liar, by the dream team Dimitris Kontopoulos)



many native languages already too, a return of a fully norwegian entry with Gate's Ulveham (in medieval norwegian to be precise)




what could come through the NF's

in Denmark we have popstar Aura Dione competing in DMGP

in Iceland we have palestinian Bashar Murad competing with a song by his Hatari friends or veteran Hera Bjork



in Croatia we have big names like Baby Lasagna, Damir Kedzo, Vatra, Pavel, Boris Stok


in Serbia we have big names like Breskvica, Lena Kovacevic, Teya Dora, Konstrakta


in San Marino, the wildcard country, quite a lot of artists worldwide applied again, among them my nation's ''whitney'' April Darby


in Portugal, we got veteran jazz star Maria Joao, up against Filipa, Bispo, Buba Espinho, Joao Borsch, dance pop project No Maka


in Poland, their internal selection known artists who applied are Justyna, Doda, Luna, Pan Savyan


in Lithuania, main frontrunners are Silvester Belt's bop Luktelk, or The Roop, and also Monika Marija's ''billie eilish similar'' ballad




rumoured for Armenia are the ethno duo Ladaniva or Athena Manoukian

[Nicky91]

Melfest has some strong names again competing


Smash Into Pieces (swedish take on Linkin Park) Liamoo, the ukrainian Maria Sur, Dotter are this years other big names, last years runner up from Norway Marcus & Martinus compete again too

[Nicky91]

Finland is a winner yup yup yup :dance: :dance:



Latvia staying with snoozefests :laugh3: staying in semi for the 8th time in a row too :hehe:

[Nicky91]

germany entry

SoR1-pJufbo

top 5 potential, jury winner potential

[Nicky91]

https://www.eurovision.de/ryk162_v-contentgross.jpg

easy gaybait either looks wise :flutter:

[Black Dagger]

I mean he hasn’t won the selection yet

[Nicky91]

I mean he hasn’t won the selection yet

they will rig it in his favor


we love corruption :love: :cheer:

[Nicky91]

Mustii's song for Belgium has the title ''Before the Party's Over''


AAAH, this is sooooooo gonna be my big FAT NO.1 of my ranking and staying there me thinks, i love his sound anyway, i hope its similar ballad to new becoming

[Nicky91]

my top 10 so far

1. Belgium
2. Ukraine
3. Norway
4. Luxembourg
5. Slovenia
6. Lithuania
7. Ireland
8. France
9. Italy
10. Poland



Mustii made my wig flew off to brussels :dazzler: :love:



i think (with the right entries winning) Portugal, Serbia could shake up my top, especially if respectively Maria Joao, Teya Dora go to Malmo

[Black Dagger]

they will rig it in his favor


we love corruption :love: :cheer:

I see this happened

[Mystic Mock]

they will rig it in his favor


we love corruption :love: :cheer:

I only love corruption when it's in my favour.:hmph:

[Mystic Mock]

my top 10 so far

1. Belgium
2. Ukraine
3. Norway
4. Luxembourg
5. Slovenia
6. Lithuania
7. Ireland
8. France
9. Italy
10. Poland



Mustii made my wig flew off to brussels :dazzler: :love:



i think (with the right entries winning) Portugal, Serbia could shake up my top, especially if respectively Maria Joao, Teya Dora go to Malmo

I thought that you hated Ireland's entry?:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

My favourite entries so far:
1. Norway - Genuinely the song and vocal that grabbed me the most on first listen
2. Finland:joker:
3. Belgium
4. Latvia - I really liked the singer's voice
5. Estonia

Malta, Luxembourg, and Slovenia had singers that were easy on the eyes though.:evilgrin:

But seriously, I'm interested to see if for my personal taste, if an entry can be better than Norway.

[Nicky91]

My favourite entries so far:
1. Norway - Genuinely the song and vocal that grabbed me the most on first listen
2. Finland:joker:
3. Belgium
4. Latvia - I really liked the singer's voice
5. Estonia

Malta, Luxembourg, and Slovenia had singers that were easy on the eyes though.:evilgrin:

But seriously, I'm interested to see if for my personal taste, if an entry can be better than Norway.

yes Latvia have a chance in qualifying again (so many NQ's in a row now)


San Marino what they have so far in their NF, i'd say Marcella Bella has a possible personal best result entry, i love Chi Siamo Davvero, i also never voted for them, but with that song i deffo would in our semi

[Nicky91]

Chi Siamo Davvero would be an unusual classy quality entry for San Marino


so yeah i want that (also for Graham Norton's what the ****, san marino for once sending a good song reaction :joker:)



Croatia is one for the gays, Rim Tim Tagi Dim is in english, but very ethnic (almost like Disko Partizani by Shantel but then a rock version- maneskinfied) very emotional message too for young people in balkans who emigrate to financially more stable countries

[jones89]

My Top 10 so far:

1. Lithuania
2. Italy
3. Denmark
4. Czechia
5. Luxembourg
6. Poland
7. Latvia
8. Germany
9. Moldova
10. Norway

[Nicky91]

Israel out, Morocco or Iran in?

[Nicky91]

kv-UQmO08sc

Zagreb2025 here we come, with this ethnic masterpiece :worship:

[Mystic Mock]

Baby Lasagna?

Is this a sequel to Bitch Lasagna?

[Nicky91]

Iceland going with palestinian artist Bashar Murad with the song ''Wild West''


very very likely now :smug: :love: :cheer:

[Nicky91]

Baby Lasagna?

Is this a sequel to Bitch Lasagna?

Marko Purisic is his real name

former guitarist of rockband Manntra


soon to be eurovision champion now yup yup

[UserSince2005]

Has israel entry been release? i want to bop to a banger.

[Mystic Mock]

Marko Purisic is his real name

former guitarist of rockband Manntra


soon to be eurovision champion now yup yup

Good luck to him.

He has great taste in Pasta.:dance:

[Nicky91]

Croatia is disgusting :yuk: :yuk:


nepobaby rim tim tagi troll loser :yuk:

[Nicky91]

if turds like that can enter eurovision


i am composing something myself next year ;)

[Nicky91]

VlUEFmVd7ss

Welcome to the Wild Wild West

the best place for business

gonna get through and through, with nothing to lose


Icelandic cowboy slayage

https://media.tenor.com/wF23jwvIVsMAAAAM/cowboy-thrust.gif

[Nicky91]

gT2wY0DjYGo

Pro-EU song :worship: :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:


welcome to the eurovision family DJ Paul Elstak you ******* ICON :love: :love: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Nicky91]

San Marino is sooo good :love: similar to Cyprus 2016 but then in a spanish/italian and female sauce, strong staging potential too i think

11:11 is a magic number for our province Brabant, start of carnaval on 11th of the 11th month November, on exactly 11:11 and apparently it also has a special meaning in spain


am happy Megara get their chance at ESC after being robbed last year in benidorm fest

[Nicky91]

what is the freakshow thing from switzerland doing top 5 of the odds :conf: Nemo is literally same as Reiley from Denmark/Faroe Islands last year :laugh3:

[jones89]

what is the freakshow thing from switzerland doing top 5 of the odds :conf: Nemo is literally same as Reiley from Denmark/Faroe Islands last year :laugh3:

Yeah i don’t get the hype over Switzerland at all

[Nicky91]

Armenia is great :clap1:


fun, in armenian, very ethnic, maybe a little uncompetitive but not that bad tbh, when it compensates for being very enjoyable to listen to, huge staging potentials here

also a bit of a current gen FIFA vibe i have with it either




now last to be revealed is Azerbaijan

the song for Fahree Rumoured that it's titled Diyar, mainly in english, apart from the title, in Azeri

[Mystic Mock]

I actually don't mind Switzerland's entry.

[Nicky91]

I actually don't mind Switzerland's entry.

i only care about this genre of music, when it is romanian or another balkan language

and this song is too woke for my liking

[Nicky91]

https://eurovision.tv/sites/default/files/styles/wide/public/media/image/2024-03/Screenshot%202024-03-12%20at%2015.35.52.png?itok=Te1oWeJc

:love: :love: QUEEN

[Nicky91]

Azerbaijan entry might be released tomorrow


Ilikin has joined Fahree for the song, for the Mugham parts

[UserSince2005]

Isreal has to win. It is just so stunning. I feel all their pain

[Nicky91]

Azerbaijan's song is lovely


very haunting, similar to 2015, and with azerbaijani language and some mugham chants :clap1: :clap1:

[Nicky91]

https://songfestival.be/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/fahree-photo-2-800x421.jpg
Fahree's a hunk too


azeri freddie mercury vibes

[Nicky91]

https://eurovision.tv/story/malmo-preview-visitors-eurovision

Robin S (of the iconic 90s banger Show Me Love) to perform in the eurovillage!!!


also Ukraine's ESC2021 stars Go_A to perform there, alongside melfest fan favourite Dotter, as well as Sweden's last host artist in 2016: Frans

[Nicky91]

1. Israel
2. Denmark
3. San Marino
4. United Kingdom
5. France
6. Netherlands
7. Sweden
8. Albania
9. Greece
10. Norway


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sure non-qualifiers:

Latvia, Cyprus (would've more had to send that sort of entries in a year with jury voting in the semi's) now chanceless lol


public don't vote for quality ballads and we are tired of eleni wannabe clones

[ArgyESC]

https://media.tenor.com/RfYAAP_o-TwAAAAM/kaleen-we-will-rave.gif

[Nicky91]

next month



hoping for Netherlands to flop and nq :fc: and a return to country music in 2025 pls

[Nicky91]

https://eurovision.tv/sites/default/files/styles/wide/public/media/image/2024-02/karta_ESC_o%CC%88verblick_PM.png?itok=nHeq7qyW

https://eurovision.tv/story/malmo-getting-around-city



get to know our class of 2024 here
https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/participants

[Crimson Dynamo]

the actual state :umm2:

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and mocking women too, there is a surprise

[Nicky91]

https://eurovoix.com/2024/05/03/joanna-lumley-spokesperson-for-eurovision-2024/

Joanna Lumley the UK spokesperson :lovedup:

[Nicky91]

https://eurovision.tv/story/elecktra-tia-kofi-turquoise-carpet

two popular drag queens will host tomorrow's turquoise carpet ceremony event :)


https://eurovision.tv/sites/default/files/styles/banner/public/media/image/2024-05/Elecktra%20-%20LQ%20-%20Banne%20Maj%20-%20foto%20av%20Universal%20%282%29.jpg?itok=d7QV8q Sf
swedish Elecktra

https://eurovision.tv/sites/default/files/styles/banner/public/media/image/2024-05/IMG_7673.JPEG?itok=qJkFaNWF
RuPaul Drag Race UK star Tia Kofi

[Nicky91]

https://eurovision.tv/story/loreen-perform-grand-final

reigning champion Loreen to perform in the grand final

[Crimson Dynamo]

Croatia 11/10

Switzerland 7/2

Italy 7/1

Ukraine 9/1

Ireland 10/1

Netherlands 12/1

France 25/1

Israel 30/1

Greece 70/1

(Paddy Power)

[Zizu]

Sadly the betting odds do not reflect on the quality of the songs

It’s a political nightmare .. remember Ukraine won it in 2022 .. a kindness vote .


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[Vanessa]

Sadly the betting odds do not reflect on the quality of the songs

It’s a political nightmare .. remember Ukraine won it in 2022 .. a kindness vote .


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I think Croatia could actually win it. I can imagine them giving a really strong performance on Saturday night.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sadly the betting odds do not reflect on the quality of the songs

It’s a political nightmare .. remember Ukraine won it in 2022 .. a kindness vote .


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Apart from that outlier

The best song always wins (that year the best song was UK and it did win really)

[Zizu]

Apart from that outlier

The best song always wins (that year the best song was UK and it did win really)


Bollox


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[Vanessa]

I'm 100% voting for Croatia. They are amazing. Will also give a cheeky vote to Italy, because I like the song, it's catchy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Having now heard all the songs I think the standard this year is very high, sadly our own entry is very poor comparison to the 20 best songs, for example


l0PcLxP_e74

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israeli Eurovision singer Eden Golan is ordered to stay in her hotel room by her
security team as thousands of pro-Palestine protesters including keffiyeh-
wearing Greta Thunberg gather in Malmo, calling for her to be excluded

:facepalm:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/09/16/84670133-13400717-image-a-48_1715270159844.jpg


Protesters gather during the Stop Israel demonstration against Israel's
participation in the 68th edition of the Eurovision Song Contest (ESC), amid
the ongoing conflict in Gaza between Israel and the Palestinian Islamist group
Hamas, in Malmo, Sweden, May 9, 2024

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13400717/Israeli-Eurovision-singer-Eden-Golan-ordered-stay-hotel-room-security-team-thousands-pro-Palestine-protesters-including-keffiyeh-wearing-Greta-Thunberg-gather-Malmo-calling-excluded.html

[Zizu]

Having now heard all the songs I think the standard this year is very high, sadly our own entry is very poor comparison to the 20 best songs, for example


l0PcLxP_e74


It’s odd how we all have such different tastes

I absolutely love the UK song Dizzy and I actually dislike many if not most of the others


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[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s odd how we all have such different tastes

I absolutely love the UK song Dizzy and I actually dislike many if not most of the others


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Then I would suggest you have rather poor taste in music

which is fine but I'm afraid the vast majority of the world agrees

[Zizu]

Then I would suggest you have rather poor taste in music

which is fine but I'm afraid the vast majority of the world agrees


Well I like most of what you like sooooo


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Well I like most of what you like sooooo


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nice try

[Zizu]

nice try


‘Tis a fact


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://res.cloudinary.com/hb0stl6qx/image/upload/w_900,c_scale,q_auto,f_auto,dpr_auto/v1715243906/AIN/Screenshot_2024-05-09_at_11.36.33.png

The Israeli celebrity, who had wrapped himself in an Israeli flag, was verbally
assaulted and spat at by anti-Israel protesters for waving the national flag at
the Eurovision Contest in support of the Israeli contestant.

Two local police officers intervened in the dispute and detained Hochman,
informing him that it was not appropriate to display Israeli flags or to be
Jewish in that location.

Hochman expressed frustration at the double standard, saying that while he
was prohibited from waving an Israeli flag, the anti-Israel protesters were
allowed to display their Palestinian/Hamas flags without any interference.

The Eurovision Song Contest in Malmö kicked off on Tuesday evening with an
opening act by performer Eric Saade, a Swedish singer whose father is
Palestinian. Saade came out on stage with his wrist wrapped in a keffiyeh, a
Palestinian symbol used in pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel protests.







https://allisrael.com/israeli-comedian-detained-after-waiving-national-flag-at-eurovision-song-competition-in-sweden

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNN8oPfX0AA4sUV?format=jpg&name=medium

[Nicky91]

i am listening to most of this years class their songs, yes

i wish most artists also wonderful careers, keep releasing music (even to those who nq'd) don't let that flop ruin your career, focus on the fans you do have


i kinda hope Olly goes back to his Y&Y type of bop sound, songs like king, shine, starstruck i listen to a lot still :love:



i follow many past esc artists whatever music they are releasing as of today on youtube



and as if i do not have music shows without esc, lol


die giovanni zarrella show is miles better, with an actual live band/orchestra

[Crimson Dynamo]

i am listening to most of this years class their songs, yes

i wish most artists also wonderful careers, keep releasing music (even to those who nq'd) don't let that flop ruin your career, focus on the fans you do have


i kinda hope Olly goes back to his Y&Y type of bop sound, songs like king, shine, starstruck i listen to a lot still :love:



i follow many past esc artists whatever music they are releasing as of today on youtube



and as if i do not have music shows without esc, lol


die giovanni zarrella show is miles better, with an actual live band/orchestra

What a pity you wont be watching tonight

[Mystic Mock]

Apart from that outlier

The best song always wins (that year the best song was UK and it did win really)

Bar maybe Hard Rock Hallelujah, Fairytale, and Only Teardrops, I would say that this is largely untrue imo.

I mean I refuse to believe that Germany had a better song than Turkey in 2010.

[Mystic Mock]

Israeli Eurovision singer Eden Golan is ordered to stay in her hotel room by her
security team as thousands of pro-Palestine protesters including keffiyeh-
wearing Greta Thunberg gather in Malmo, calling for her to be excluded

:facepalm:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/09/16/84670133-13400717-image-a-48_1715270159844.jpg


Protesters gather during the Stop Israel demonstration against Israel's
participation in the 68th edition of the Eurovision Song Contest (ESC), amid
the ongoing conflict in Gaza between Israel and the Palestinian Islamist group
Hamas, in Malmo, Sweden, May 9, 2024

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13400717/Israeli-Eurovision-singer-Eden-Golan-ordered-stay-hotel-room-security-team-thousands-pro-Palestine-protesters-including-keffiyeh-wearing-Greta-Thunberg-gather-Malmo-calling-excluded.html

I don't know why anybody takes Greta Thunberg seriously anymore?

She had one issue that she genuinely cared about (and it made her famous obviously) and since then she's just been clinging onto fame for dear life.

Imo anyone that believes that she really cares about all of these issues are being far too trusting imo.

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNN8oPfX0AA4sUV?format=jpg&name=medium

Adam Sellers isn't holding back is he?:joker:

[Zizu]

Enjoy

https://youtu.be/_Ynmjznoap0?si=v3EyJfakkc404x6Z


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Enjoy

https://youtu.be/_Ynmjznoap0?si=v3EyJfakkc404x6Z


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we can all be superstars singing into the bathroom mirror

he failed his big test and got NO points

dud

[Zizu]

we can all be superstars singing into the bathroom mirror

he failed his big test and got NO points

dud


Time to give the lad a break . He’s a kind soul


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[user104658]

Time to give the lad a break . He’s a kind soul


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LT won't give him a break, he stopped being performatively supportive of gay people years ago. The outright homophobia has ramped up a bit lately to be fair.

[Mystic Mock]

we can all be superstars singing into the bathroom mirror

he failed his big test and got NO points

dud

You've clearly never heard me sing.:joker:

[Cherie]

IRELAND IN A NUTSHELL: THE 31 YEAR OLD TEENAGER
There’s a strange cultural paradox in Ireland in which the dominant culture, the one that is ever present in the media, politics, and entertainment, simultaneously believes that it is a culture of rebellion and subversion. This belief persists even though the people who embrace that culture are in a position of absolute dominance over the rest of us. I touched on this in an article last week where I mentioned that Ireland’s Eurovision entry, Bambie Thug, described the things that made her special as being the fact that she is “a queer” and “a witch” as opposed to anything innate or inherent to herself. Her performance was laced with devil horns, pentagrams, and images of summoning a demon from the earth. Speaking after her defeat in Sweden, Ms Thug said that her defeat was nevertheless proof that “the queers are coming, non-binaries for the ****ing win”.

Bambie Thug is a 31 year old woman, but hers was the performance of a teenage rebel. The bad loser attitude afterwards the whine of a teenage crybaby. And in many ways, it summed up the whole country, as it is today.

After all literally everybody with an Irish media job cheered: “Take a bow!” hollered Newstalk’s Henry McKean. “They could finish last tonight and Bambie would still be an Irish Eurovision legend” was the considered and sober verdict of the Irish Times.

Meanwhile, over on the BBC, as Ireland’s act took to the stage, Graham Norton was encouraging parents to avert their children’s eyes from a “scary” performance. Yes, that Graham Norton, the most famous gay man ever to have come from Cork, and not someone known for his prudishness or conservatism. While the Irish media was cheering the song, the BBC of all bodies was warning that it might not be suitable for children.

Evidently, we live in a country with many views and many competing tastes. It would be churlish to pretend that there was not an audience in Ireland and around the world that adored the Irish performance, and it would be wrong to suggest that those of us who aren’t into that sort of thing should have a veto over who the country sends. But equally: The pretence that this was some kind of Irish cultural triumph simply doesn’t reflect the reality that hundreds of thousands – if not millions – of people worldwide were watching and asking a single question: What the hell happened to Ireland?

Off stage, the Irish act hit the headlines for a series of weird and silly complaints targeting the Israeli act. The final dress rehearsal was boycotted because the Israeli national broadcaster had the temerity to call the Irish act “dark and occulty” during the semi-final. One wonders whether Thug will now refuse to appear on the BBC, after Graham Norton’s comments – I rather suspect not.

Then there was the “I cried with my team” reaction to the news that Israel had made it out of the semi final. That was followed by the bizarre “**** the EBU (European broadcasting union)” that came after Ireland’s (creditable) defeat was finalised. To a lot of people watching around the world, it came across as deeply weird, angry, and obsessive. It came across that way to a lot of people in Ireland too, not that you’d know to read or listen to any Irish mainstream media.

The irony of all this is that few people did more to aid the Israeli cause in the Eurovision than the Irish entry: Like it or lump it, this is how a significant portion of the global population see this country now – dark, lost, screechy, and weird. It’s hard to disagree with them. Voting for Israel was the clearest F-U to the Irish entry possible, and it’s fairly clear many people across the continent availed of it.

Ms Thug, it should be said, is not some rebellious teenager. She is thirty-one years of age, and until her middle twenties was a heterosexual woman called Linnea Lagerqvist – a name that will appear in no other Irish media outlet because that is now her “dead name”, and it is allegedly offensive to refer to non-binary people by the name given to them at birth, or even to mention the fact that they were once known by that name. The most you’ll get in the Irish media is a reference to the fact that she “was born to the Swedish Lagerqvist family”. If the facts offend, they must be suppressed.

This is, I’d argue, at the root of our cultural problem: “Why did she change her name?” is a question that many people might be interested to know the answer to – but the fact that her name was ever something different was dutifully omitted from all Irish coverage in accordance with progressive sensibilities, anybody else’s sensibilities be damned.

In addition, it is a simple statement of fact that most Irish reporters would be horrified at the very thought of asking her such a question, because to do so is now offensive in the social cliques that they inhabit. Every media outlet, without question, and without comment, referred to the former Ms. Lagerqvist with her chosen plural pronouns – “they performed, they said, they didn’t show up to their rehearsal”. To do anything else would have been considered beyond the pale.

But beyond the pale for whom? When did it become the law of the land that a basic thing like who you are and what gender you are became something it is forbidden to ask about, or report on? When did we vote on that? Only some of us, it seems, have a say in dictating what standards of behaviour, politeness, and conduct are, in this society.

Ireland, as it happened, gave 10 votes – just two short of the maximum – to the Israeli act on the night, through the public vote. I myself voted for Israel the maximum permitted number of times. Not because the Israeli song was the best – it was very good, but France and Ukraine were better in my estimation – but because for many of us it was the simplest and easiest way of sticking a finger in the eye of everything this juvenile Irish entry, and increasingly juvenile Irish society, stands for. We’re sick of being a country run by 31 year old teenagers whose answer to every single policy problem is to cry and whinge and blame somebody else – the British, the “far right”, various isms and phobias, the Israelis, misinformation, you name it. Everything in this country is someone else’s fault, per the people who run it and the people who dominate its conversations.

On June 7th, in the local and European elections, it is this same Ireland that is on the ballot. If you feel well-represented as an Irish person by Bambie Thug, then our establishment politicians have made clear that they’re on your side, and deserve your vote. But if you feel poorly represented by this kind of thing, it should be clear to you by now that while Israel might not be on the ballot as a two-fingers option, there are many others who are.

https://gript.ie/the-31-year-old-teenager/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1ilvH1h-fXvEWciv39xs6CB0aABknvFXD1kAZKGQpv9h3sJLNcl_4CgoM_ aem_AYf08l2b168oAvEP-3F0lboDeReRo9eLnCa_oVEVawVgPgG3vX_aaBypLL6kN4mG_pR ij4AbjljlHQZix3zOJrnf



Bambie is 31? I would have said 17 at a guess....very immature

[Niamh.]

Oh.my god, she's 31???!!! How embarrassing [emoji15] I mean I liked her song/act but her interviews were so childish and cringe worthy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

An immature attention-seeking brat as demonstrated at the event and after. Its funny that all the press love to print Tommy Robinson's real name ( and he changed if for the security of his family and not for some made up reason) but heaven forbid they do if for this wee girl. Its down to fear of the pink-haired activists and not much else.

Good article

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNhd6gfXUAAW5Bt?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNhd6gdWYAAUf92?format=jpg&name=360x360

[Zizu]

I hated the song and the performance in equal amounts !!


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[Cherie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNhd6gfXUAAW5Bt?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNhd6gdWYAAUf92?format=jpg&name=360x360

what a pretty lady she used to be

[Niamh.]

I was reading an article on her and I scrolled down to read the comments, there was only one but I thought LT will love this one :fan:

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/who-bambie-thug-ireland-eurovision-32753308

shanekelly
5 DAYS AGO
She’s very similar to Kate Middleton

[Crimson Dynamo]

I was reading an article on her and I scrolled down to read the comments, there was only one but I thought LT will love this one :fan:

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/who-bambie-thug-ireland-eurovision-32753308

shanekelly
5 DAYS AGO
She’s very similar to Kate Middleton

:oh:

[Ammi]

I was reading an article on her and I scrolled down to read the comments, there was only one but I thought LT will love this one :fan:

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/who-bambie-thug-ireland-eurovision-32753308

shanekelly
5 DAYS AGO
She’s very similar to Kate Middleton

….ahhhh, I like that there were no negative comments in the Irish Mirror for her and that the only one was complimentary…(…I assume it was complimentary, not….ugggghhh, similar to that ENGLISH woman….:laugh:…)….

[Niamh.]

….ahhhh, I like that there were no negative comments in the Irish Mirror for her and that the only one was complimentary…(…I assume it was complimentary, not….ugggghhh, similar to that ENGLISH woman….:laugh:…)….

:laugh: I'm sure it was meant as a compliment

[Cherie]

So brought up in Macroom, but in London for 11 years, where did the fake American accent come from :laugh:

[bots]

i don't have a problem with anyone having their own style. Life is too short, and there just isn't the world supply lines for everyone to wear one of LT's tweed jackets

[Cherie]

i don't have a problem with anyone having their own style. Life is too short, and there just isn't the world supply lines for everyone to wear one of LT's tweed jackets

I have no problem with her look or her singing, though neither are to my taste, but she was very immature at the competition and didn't represent Ireland very well in my opinion, and bullying a contestant 11 years her junior is never a good look

Eurovision is meant to be a fun contest, she and a few others did their best to spoil it for everyone

[Niamh.]

I have no problem with her look her her singing, though neither are to my taste, but she was very immature at the competition and didn't represent Ireland very well in my opinion, and bullying a contestant 11 years her junior is never a good look

Eurovision is meant to be a fun contest, she and a few others did their best to spoil it for everyone

Yeah totally agree with that, I'm still in shock to learn she's 31 though :o

[Cherie]

Yeah totally agree with that, I'm still in shock to learn she's 31 though :o

Originally that was why I gave her a pass as thought she was 17 or so, cannot believe she is 31 and acting in such a spoiled way, but as she says herself she likes the spotlight so I suppose any publicity is good publicity in her eyes

[bots]

At least a "certain group" of the eurovision performers and support staff were intimidating and bullying the Israel girl. Lets not pretend its an unusual occurrence, it's happening every day across europe

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is the embodiment of a nasty woke leftist infected with a woke mind virus

And a narcissistic

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNhd6gfXUAAW5Bt?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNhd6gdWYAAUf92?format=jpg&name=360x360

The girl on the left is the Irish singer off Eurovision?:shocked:

What happened?:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The girl on the left is the Irish singer off Eurovision?:shocked:

What happened?:laugh:

far-left woke mind virus

[Mystic Mock]

far-left woke mind virus

But the appearance is... Different.:laugh:

[Zizu]

But the appearance is... Different.:laugh:


She may have won if she’d gone with that normal ‘Avril Laverne’ look

:)


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[Niamh.]

She may have won if she’d gone with that normal ‘Avril Laverne’ look

:)


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You sound like someone who has never watched Eurovision, have you seen the winner? :laugh:

[Vanessa]

It did stand out, I'll give her that.
But it kind of scared me a little :laugh:

[Zizu]

You sound like someone who has never watched Eurovision, have you seen the winner? :laugh:


He wasn’t totally horrific like her and the repulsive demon


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[Niamh.]

He wasn’t totally horrific like her and the repulsive demon


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I just mean "normal" isn't exactly what Eurovision acts/winners are these days :laugh: It's pretty out there with costumes and staging for the most part

[Nicky91]

I just mean "normal" isn't exactly what Eurovision acts/winners are these days :laugh: It's pretty out there with costumes and staging for the most part

todays contest ain't eurovision anymore


more like a cheap ripoff of drag race, who has the craziest freakshow act wins



i respect Turkish president Erdogan for saying what it is :clap1:

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/turkeys-leader-says-eurovision-song-contest-threat-family-values-rcna153235

a threat to family values


with including the non-binary artists

[Black Dagger]

Don’t watch it next year then. You’d be doing us all a favour.

[Nicky91]

Don’t watch it next year then. You’d be doing us all a favour.

and myself, as if i cannot play my own little eurovision Nickyvision with me, myself and i

:smug:


i been playing these with myself, long before i joined these forums tbh :inamood:



now i just have some extra knowledge, regarding predictable public voting tastes, and what juries usually tend to like



and in my contests, no politics for real, i also have Russia, Israel, Turkiye, Hungary


the more countries, the better in my contest, the more fun too

[Crimson Dynamo]

how did your picks do this year nicky?

[Nicky91]

how did your picks do this year nicky?

my faves last few years fail to qualify, but then again, i personally am probably too oldschool or something, more focused on song than the freakshow act


recent 3 years

2022

1. Malta (Emma Muscat - I Am What I Am) semi 2 16/18
2. Bulgaria (Intelligent Music Project - Intention) semi 1 16/17
3. Slovenia (LPS - Disko) semi 1 17/17


2023

1. Greece (Victor Vernicos - What They Say) semi 2 13/16
2. Netherlands (Mia & Dion - Burning Daylight) semi 1 13/15
3. San Marino (Piqued Jacks - Like an Animal) semi 2 16/16


2024

1. San Marino (Megara - 11:11) semi 2 14/16
2. Iceland (Hera Bjork - Scared of Heights) semi 1 15/15
3. Poland (LUNA - The Tower) semi 1 12/15




in 2014 i didn't mind Conchita, since at least he doesn't identify as a they/them, but having just a very iconic drag queen character, even without this character, would've still done well i think, he has gorgeous vocals and a gorgeous bond theme vibe

Nemo just isn't my cup of tea

[Crimson Dynamo]

So essentially you are hopeless at identifying popular music

figures

[Zizu]

So essentially you are hopeless at identifying popular music

figures


…. and that’s being rather generous


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[Mystic Mock]

She may have won if she’d gone with that normal ‘Avril Laverne’ look

:)


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Avril Lavigne.:flutter:

[Mystic Mock]

So essentially you are hopeless at identifying popular music

figures

Tbf popular Music doesn't always equal good Music.

Otherwise Rebecca Black's Friday song was a lot better than how I remember it.:joker:

[Nicky91]

everyone has different music tastes though


i just am not a sheep in walking along with the popular songs, the ones who receive most likes, most comments :idc:

[Nicky91]

but yes i'm done with eurovision

especially after that freak Nemo winning



i did genuinely like Israel's song, powerful and proper produced ballad, and Eden is a very pretty girl (looks wise kinda similar to Charles Leclerc's girlfriend Alexandra Saint Mleux, a little bit in her face especially although different hair colour, i was thinking that this weekend while watching Monaco GP)

[Nicky91]

Joost the women abuser wants to take part in eurovision next year :fan:


seems like he still feels so butthurt, after his dq



https://media.tenor.com/Nnli1XUAWwcAAAAM/toto-wolff-f1.gif

eurovision has its own meme like this now LOL, but then ''No Martin No''

[Nicky91]

can Gibraltar join esc next year?


one more english native language country pls :fc:


i recommend Anastacia for them as their debut artist




and i always support the UK at esc, always have and always will



Olly Alexander - Dizzy, what a fab entry that was, the nostalgia to an 80s disco bop