BoJo in more pandemic bother

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Boris Johnson has been referred to police by the Cabinet Office over further potential rule breaches during the Covid pandemic.

The department said it made the referral after a review of documents ahead of the Covid public inquiry.

The former prime minister, who was fined last year for breaking Covid rules in 2020, denies any wrongdoing.

The Metropolitan Police said it was assessing information it had received from the Cabinet Office last week.

"It relates to potential breaches of the Health Protection Regulations between June 2020 and May 2021 at Downing Street," the force added.

The Cabinet Office said officials had been obliged to disclose the documents to the police under civil service rules.

The Times, which first reported the story, says Mr Johnson has also been referred to Thames Valley police because his ministerial diary revealed visits by family and friends to Chequers - the prime minister's country house in Buckinghamshire - during the pandemic.

A spokesman for Mr Johnson said: "Some abbreviated entries in Mr Johnson's official diary were queried by Cabinet Office during preparation for the Covid inquiry.

The spokesman added that Mr Johnson's lawyers had written to the department, as well as the Commons Privileges Committee, "explaining that the events were lawful and were not breaches of any Covid regulations."

The seven-member committee of MPs has been investigating whether Mr Johnson misled Parliament over Covid rule-breaking events in government buildings.

In a statement, the committee said it had received additional evidence from the government last week and asked Mr Johnson for a response, both of which it would now take into account during its probe.

Sources close to the former prime minister insist Mr Johnson has been advised by lawyers that all of these events were lawful and did not break any restrictions. They say the Cabinet Office gave Mr Johnson no notice of this. They also claim the referral to the police is politically motivated.

It is understood Mr Johnson has had no contact from the police.

The Cabinet Office said the material it had passed to police came from the "normal" process of reviewing documents to be submitted to the public inquiry into the government's handling of the pandemic.

The public inquiry, which is separate to the privileges committee probe, will begin hearings next month.

A spokesperson for the Cabinet Office said: "In-line with obligations in the Civil Service Code, this material has been passed to the relevant authorities and it is now a matter for them."

The BBC has been told the matter was not considered by ministers or the cabinet secretary, who heads the civil service.

Responding to the announcement, Liberal Democrat deputy leader Daisy Cooper, said Mr Johnson "should finally do one decent thing and consider his position as an MP".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65690243

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It is a bit odd. They had a dedicated inquiry into no 10 breaches. How can they now say .... oh we forgot about these :laugh:

[Zizu]

Sounds like Labour are worried that Boris will take control of the Tories again and win the next general election ..


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[joeysteele]

Have to wait and see what happens.
This may yet come to be nothing at all.

This relates to Chequers which hasn't been looked at before it seems.

Anything that further discredits this odious creep of a serial deceitful political iar would be fine by me.
He should just do the really decent thing and clear off for good as even an MP.
He more than others only discredits more the role of elected public office.

[bots]

the thing is, he is gone now, he is no longer PM. Those that support him aren't going to change their minds with more revelations at this point. It just comes across as vindictive. Like i say, they had an official enquiry into government rule breaking, you have to wonder about the competence of any inquiry now, if they can't deal with something as simple as this

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Sounds like Labour are worried that Boris will take control of the Tories again and win the next general election ..


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Worried :joker: They want him to be PM again, easy win for them. How anyone can support the fat lard of **** is beyond me

[joeysteele]

the thing is, he is gone now, he is no longer PM. Those that support him aren't going to change their minds with more revelations at this point. It just comes across as vindictive. Like i say, they had an official enquiry into government rule breaking, you have to wonder about the competence of any inquiry now, if they can't deal with something as simple as this

Except he isn't gone.
Yes as PM.
He still however has a base, albeit a dwindling one, in the CON party.

He's still an MP in elected service drawing a publicly paid salary every year.
Hanging around like an increasingly rotten foul smell in parliament.

Not an ounce of decency in the man politically whatsoever.

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and if his constituents don't want him, they will boot him out at the next election ... democracy :laugh:

[joeysteele]

and if his constituents don't want him, they will boot him out at the next election ... democracy :laugh:

Indeed that's true.

However it means most certainly that at this time despite all his political deceit, lies and political wrongdoing,
That he isn't gone at all.
With no other way to have him gone either.

There's another MP who has broken covid rules, she may soon see a by election resulting for her covid wrong.

Not so for this odious creep however.

Oh just leave him in place, earning his massive fat fees for appearances elsewhere and his MPs salary still too.
Despite all the political mess he helped create, abusing power, breaking the law in office.
Oh just leave it to the next election.

Our democracy fails badly here yet again when you cannot eject this obnoxious individual out of elected service and parliament.
Until an election.
What a wonderful saving grace for HIM, again.

People can stand up for him all they like.
This man still as an MP never mind any other political position is a disgrace to ANY elected office.

[bots]

The problem Joey is that every party has odious mp's. Most survive for decades in parliament. MP's reflect society as they are supposed to, and society contains some very unpleasant people

[joeysteele]

The problem Joey is that every party has odious mp's. Most survive for decades in parliament. MP's reflect society as they are supposed to, and society contains some very unpleasant people

I think Johnson sets whole new records for being wrong for public office.
Of any MP for ANY Party.

I'm aware of good and bad MPs.
It's why I want and any political activity I ever get myself involved in, I'd hope to see the highest standards set in place in parliament and as MPs.
Which should be so, and demanded for NOW.

This man Johnson isn't just unpleasant he's a serial political but dangerously so deceiver and liar.
Who shouldn't have any place in a Party let alone be an MP in parliament.

His endless list of wrongs.
Shouldn't be clouded over by saying a lot of them are all just the same.
They're not, not on his scale when he was even PM.

It's a rarity for any MP out of 650 who will ever get the chance to even be PM.
Johnson never ever should have been trusted with that high public office..
NEVER EVER.
He contributed strongly to dragging politics and government even deeper into the gutter than it even was before.
By HIS wrongs, deceit and abuse of power.

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See, i think Corbyn is a traitor to the UK and he has been in parliament for decades. Yes, he has now had the whip removed, but he is still an mp

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BBC News Text :
[Little is known for sure about the reported
events in questions but that they took place
between June 2020 and May 2021.
One source tells the paper there were
a "handful" of events while another claims there
were "more than 10". The paper says it has been
told one alleged event was a lunch at Number 10
for Mr Johnson and his mother,
who died in September 2021,
and that another was a meeting between Mr Johnson
and television presenter Kate Garraway,
whose husband was left in a life-threatening condition
after catching Covid early in the pandemic.]

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See, i think Corbyn is a traitor to the UK and he has been in parliament for decades. Yes, he has now had the whip removed, but he is still an mp

I have no love for Corbyn..
Traitor is an extremely strong statement
He's many things but not that.
He was wrong on antisemitism totally, that's my main criticism of him.

Of course here we go again Corbyn.
Who in my view, should never have been a leader anyhow, I didn't vote for him.

Again however, he did NOT get trusted with the highest office of PM.
Personally I don't think he ever could have.
Being an equally divisive figure.

What actual laws has Corbyn broken however?
Personally now Starmer has said he will not be standing for Labour at the next election.
I'm surprised Corbyn hasn't wanted a by election in Islington North..
Because I think Corbyn would win there still even as an Independent.
Not as my choice however.

Anyhow, very well done on masking the new allegations re Johnson and turning it now onto Corbyn.

Johnson DID get trusted with the highest elected office becoming PM.
He abused power.
He enforced rigid rules on the whole Nation during covid.
These further allegations are to see if he didn't just break his and his government's laws and rules only in Downing Street but also at the country residence of Chequers too.
His laws, his rules, his abuses, his deceit, his lies, his wrongs.
Unlike Corbyn, he hasn't had the whip removed nor has to sit as an Independent either.
He's still firmly in the Con fold.

Defend that all you wish.
I just feel disgust that man ever got trusted with any power over other people and their lives.
So no defence clouded or otherwise as to him from me.

As to him and Hancock and any in his Cabinet at the time either.

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[Liam-]

His lawyers, looking through his diaries to find evidence to help him beat the allegations, found even more evidence of even more rule breaking and had to grass him up, love it

[joeysteele]

His lawyers, looking through his diaries to find evidence to help him beat the allegations, found even more evidence of even more rule breaking and had to grass him up, love it

A point wanting to be missed to mask any possible serious as to these even new allegations.
Well done for taking this back to the 'NEW' news story this really is as to him and covid.
It's not OLD news, it's NEW.

[arista]

His lawyers, looking through his diaries to find evidence to help him beat the allegations, found even more evidence of even more rule breaking and had to grass him up, love it


Slick Liam
would you like him removed
from Parliament?

[Liam-]

Slick Liam
would you like him removed
from Parliament?

I’d like him in a prison cell, but we can’t always get what we want

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Maybe he will get another £10 fine, maybe he won't .... that's what the conclusion will be of this :laugh:

[Zizu]

The problem Joey is that every party has odious mp's. Most survive for decades in parliament. MP's reflect society as they are supposed to, and society contains some very unpleasant people


True and you’re arguably being very generous towards MPs


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[Zizu]

the thing is, he is gone now, he is no longer PM. Those that support him aren't going to change their minds with more revelations at this point. It just comes across as vindictive. Like i say, they had an official enquiry into government rule breaking, you have to wonder about the competence of any inquiry now, if they can't deal with something as simple as this


As the election gets closer and as soon as the polls indicate that the Tories will get slaughtered you can guarantee that Boris will be called upon to save the day … again


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the thing is, he is gone now, he is no longer PM. Those that support him aren't going to change their minds with more revelations at this point.

I actually think all of this is still important, not in terms of public opinion, but as a signal to politicians themselves ... and that's why it's important that we don't just say "meh that's history now" and forget about it, because that's what they're banking on with the whole mindset.

The mindset of course being "one rule for me and another for thee" - the expectation/assumption that they can set strict rules for the public they represent, and then smugly sit above those rules without fear of any comeback that isn't easily dismissed (or forgotten entirely once they're out of the spotlight).

A terrible situation that should never be allowed to happen. Taking various opinions about the rights and wrongs of social distancing/lockdowns out of the equation entirely, the important thing here is parity. They should either have stuck by the rules they signed off on themselves, OR they should have had fewer/less strict rules for all. It's the "you can't do it but we can because..." that needs addressing. If there are clear consequences down the line for politicians, then in future, other politicians might at least think twice about doing the same. Not that they won't still do it... but less is still something.

[Zizu]

Worried :joker: They want him to be PM again, easy win for them. How anyone can support the fat lard of **** is beyond me


Have you seen the options in both parties ??

:)


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‘There are bad people in society’ is a wild way to justify crooks being part of government

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‘There are bad people in society’ is a wild way to justify crooks being part of government

I have to agree there honestly :joker:

"Well what you have to understand is that a proportion of the general public get tweaked off their face on meth DAILY, and we need our politicians to represent everyone so..."

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I have to agree there honestly :joker:

"Well what you have to understand is that a proportion of the general public get tweaked off their face on meth DAILY, and we need our politicians to represent everyone so..."

May i refer you to Mr Gove esquire :laugh:

[Cherie]

Honestly this guy should never be anywhere in government again I hope he loses his seat at the next election

[Cherie]

Sounds like Labour are worried that Boris will take control of the Tories again and win the next general election ..


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so you dont care that he was partying at Chequers with friends and family while people were denied access to their loved ones in person to say their final goodbyes, not to mention all the other liberties people gave up :bored:

He should have been leading by example

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Boris Johnson ditches
government-appointed lawyers for Covid inquiry

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/24/boris-johnson-cuts-ties-government-lawyers-assisting-him-covid-inquiry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65698305

[Boris Johnson will no longer work with
government-appointed lawyers for the
Covid inquiry, after he was referred to
the police over further potential rule
breaches during the pandemic.

Allies of the former PM said he had lost
all confidence
in the Cabinet Office,
which handed over the material.

The Cabinet Office said officials had
been obliged to disclose the
documents under civil service rules.]

[Cherie]

What happened to when he was grilled by Harriet Harman et al, there was no outcome? how long does it take

[Liam-]

He best pay for those ones himself

[Zizu]

so you dont care that he was partying at Chequers with friends and family while people were denied access to their loved ones in person to say their final goodbyes, not to mention all the other liberties people gave up :bored:

He should have been leading by example


We really don’t know what he was or was not getting up to .. I do know that hundreds of thousands also broke the rules though


He’s an absolute Angel compared to Trump who could well be president again soon ..

I don’t think Boris is any worse than anyone else in politics .. sad state I know


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[Beso]

Waste of time and money..

Boris is old news.