Johnson COVID WhatsApp Row Now Extended to 4PM Thursday Deadline

[arista]

Today at 4PM the data was due

Now it's by 4PM Thursday

The Cabinet not happy about handing
Private Chats over.


[The Cabinet Office is given an extra
48 hours to handover the former
prime minister's unredacted
WhatsApp messages,
but claims it is not in possession
of the much sought after material.]

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-boris-johnson-allies-say-chequers-visits-entirely-within-covid-lockdown-rules-as-ex-pm-faces-fresh-scandal-12593360



No 10 denies cover-up over Boris Johnson Covid WhatsApps

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65752422

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The Online Paper:

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[joeysteele]

If the covid inquiry wants them they should be given to them.

Fishy Sunak is making his governnent look even more suspicious by dragging his heels on this issue.
No point in having a full public independent inquiry into the government's and others handling of the pandemic.
If the government can instruct its investigation and refuse what it has said it wants to examine.

[bots]

no enquiry is ever independent. There is always an agenda and a final interpretation that rarely hits the mark

We know that there are big lessons to be learnt on nearly every aspect of how it was handled, but the sad fact is, it will all be completely ignored

[joeysteele]

no enquiry is ever independent. There is always an agenda and a final interpretation that rarely hits the mark

We know that there are big lessons to be learnt on nearly every aspect of how it was handled, but the sad fact is, it will all be completely ignored

Therein lies even more disgrace as to thus government then.

Because if there's no independent from Westminster public inquiry happening.
That is scandalous after so many lives lost unnecessarily, the wrongdoing and dubious on paper contracting

So if this inquiry can only operate at the government's dictation is absolutely shocking.
IF that really is the case.

[Zizu]

Therein lies even more disgrace as to thus government then.

Because if there's no independent from Westminster public inquiry happening.
That is scandalous after so many lives lost unnecessarily, the wrongdoing and dubious on paper contracting

So if this inquiry can only operate at the government's dictation is absolutely shocking.
IF that really is the case.


Politics / politicians stink and have always done so..

In my perfect world there would be no politicians.


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[bots]

Therein lies even more disgrace as to thus government then.

Because if there's no independent from Westminster public inquiry happening.
That is scandalous after so many lives lost unnecessarily, the wrongdoing and dubious on paper contracting

So if this inquiry can only operate at the government's dictation is absolutely shocking.
IF that really is the case.

i still remember the inquiry into the gulf war, looking into the cause for the poor chaps suicide. The inquiry chairman came back with the government were not responsible and Tony Blair had an actual smirk on his face. Someone committed suicide because of him and his government and he smirked. I've never trusted any inquiry since

[arista]

If the covid inquiry wants them they should be given to them.

Fishy Sunak is making his government look even more suspicious by dragging his heels on this issue.
No point in having a full public independent inquiry into the government's and others handling of the pandemic.
If the government can instruct its investigation and refuse what it has said it wants to examine.


Yes but so much of that data
is not about Covid.

[joeysteele]

Yes but so much of that data
is not about Covid.

That should be for the inquiry to decide and/or too, to disregard non relevant material.
There must be a way to separate covid matters from others.
If not then that system of communication shouldn't have ever been used in the first place on the pandemic issue by anyone in government.

[joeysteele]

i still remember the inquiry into the gulf war, looking into the cause for the poor chaps suicide. The inquiry chairman came back with the government were not responsible and Tony Blair had an actual smirk on his face. Someone committed suicide because of him and his government and he smirked. I've never trusted any inquiry since

The Iraq inquiry failed badly in my view.
I never could have supported the 2nd Iraq invasion.

I was only 9 when it hapoened.
However once the Iraq inquiry concluded years later I was left dismayed .

I think it's sad that you cannot trust inquiry's.
I understand why you cannot.
It's why this one should be not only be able to, however should be seen to have access to anything at all it wants to look at re the pandemic

You have no disagreement from me re Blair bots.
I agree wholeheartedly on Iraq he went along with creating a worse disaster with Bush.
It was a disgrace and I'll always believe wrong to even support Bush in going back to Iraq.

Bush used it to complete his Father's incomplete as to outcome first invasion.
Blair acted like his poodle and failed our reputation and our service personnel and their families bigtime.

[arista]

That should be for the inquiry to decide and/or too, to disregard non relevant material.
There must be a way to separate covid matters from others.
If not then that system of communication shouldn't have ever been used in the first place on the pandemic issue by anyone in government.


Logically
you would trust them.

It appears the trust has gone

[Zizu]

Could we ever simply ditch politicians and be controlled by just extremely intellectual individuals ??

Scientists, mathematicians/financiers , geologists and the like ??

Then just have appropriately qualified people controlling each aspect of our society ??


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[arista]

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Joey,
he is washing it
all off.

[arista]

All Boris Johnson Data has been handed to the Cabinet office


SkyNewsHD
reports Live

[arista]

13mins to go

[arista]

Gone 4PM

Reports the government is not handing it all over.

[bots]

the government are taking legal action over the request for the whatsapp stuff. Obviously, the government are trying to cover something up

[arista]

The Government Claims
it is a National Security Issue

They are Taking it to Court.


From SkyNewsHD Political Top Man Reporter


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-inquiry-government-seeks-judicial-review-over-order-to-hand-over-johnson-whatsapp-messages-12892475

[bots]

the obvious way to handle it would be to give the stuff to an independent judge to decide if stuff is relevant or not, but, that is much to sensible

[joeysteele]

This will and should look a very bad move by Fishy's governnent.
Far from looking like acting with integrity, this will look like desperate trying to hide something.

I guess it may mean holding up the inquiry for a little bit longer.

[arista]

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[bots]

Boris is giving the messages direct to the inquiry now bypassing the government :laugh:

I wonder who the government have been trying to protect? The smart money must be on Sunak

[Liam-]

He’s not even handing over all the messages, he hasn’t got any from before 2021, the height of the pandemic, it’s all a massive coverup, but nothing says honesty and integrity quite like trying to sue the inquiry you set up because they want evidence

[arista]

He’s not even handing over all the messages, he hasn’t got any from before 2021, the height of the pandemic, it’s all a massive coverup, but nothing says honesty and integrity quite like trying to sue the inquiry you set up because they want evidence



There is a Government Security Issue
over one of his phones.

[arista]

Three of Yesterday's Papers

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[arista]

BBC News Text :
[Saturday's Telegraph leads with a story from its
investigations team about "a secretive government unit"
which it says worked with social media companies
to "curtail discussion of lockdown policies"
during the pandemic. ]

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[Beso]

Let's see if rishi has the balls to hand over his msgs.

[arista]

No, so far he is scared to

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Rishi Sunak is facing criticism in the
run-up to the Covid inquiry for his
actions as chancellor during the pandemic.
The paper says leading scientists have attacked
as "spectacularly stupid"
his Eat Out to Help Out scheme to encourage
diners back into restaurants,
which was introduced before
the second national lockdown.]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Reports a claim from the Trades Union Congress
that the UK was left "hugely unprepared"
for the pandemic due to "years of austerity",
comments aimed at the policies of governments
led by David Cameron and George Osbourne.
The paper has approached both men for
comment, and a government spokesperson said
it had "provided around £400bn of support
during the pandemic to protect lives and livelihoods".]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Recent focus on the impact of Covid-19 policies
by highlighting a study that examined the efficacy
of the UK's first lockdown in spring 2020.
The paper's headline states
the study concluded that
the "lockdown benefits" were
"a drop in the bucket compared to the costs".]

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[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Bereaved families who lost their loved ones
during the coronavirus pandemic have criticised
the official inquiry for failing to investigate the NHS
and care home response until 2024 and 2025 - after the
next general election, the i reports.]


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[bots]

Boris Johnson has been unable to give key WhatsApps to the U.K.’s official coronavirus inquiry because he cannot remember the passcode to his old iPhone, it was reported Thursday.

According to the Times of London, the ex-PM doesn’t remember with “100 percent confidence” the code to access his former device, which he stopped using in May 2021 amid security concerns. A spokesperson for Johnson did not dispute the paper’s account.


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does anyone actually believe this? That's obviously where the dirt is

[arista]

Newsnight claimed they may have his code,
it was, from being kept in a draw.
10 Downing St.

[arista]

He’s not even handing over all the messages, he hasn’t got any from before 2021, the height of the pandemic, it’s all a massive coverup, but nothing says honesty and integrity quite like trying to sue the inquiry you set up because they want evidence


He wants to,
but needs the correct code
to enter the 2 phones

[bots]

He wants to,
but needs the correct code
to enter the 2 phones

thats nonsense Arista, he knows the codes, it's just an excuse that gets round the legalities of not handing the info over

[arista]

thats nonsense Arista, he knows the codes, it's just an excuse that gets round the legalities of not handing the info over


Good job
10 Downing Street has given the Lawyers
the code they kept in the draw.