3 Bi-Elections on Thurs.20/7/23 : Conservative 1/Lib Dems 1/ Labour 1

[arista]

Boris Johnson
Uxbridge and South Ruislip confirmed


Nigel Adams in his seat in North Yorkshire

and

Somerton & Frome By Election


But
[Conservative lawmaker Nadine Dorries has also said
she would stand down in support of Johnson,
but has not formally done so
and there is no date yet
for the by-election to replace her.]


https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/election-replace-uks-boris-johnson-set-july-20-2023-06-15/

[arista]

Two weeks to go.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0gAbCsWYAA8GH5?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/PennyMordaunt/status/1677382472886255617?s=20

[joeysteele]

It would be really something to see Labour via the negatively incredible assistance of useless Khan giving the Cons a means to possibly hold onto that seat.
We'll see soon anyhow.

[arista]

It would be really something to see Labour via the negatively incredible assistance of useless Khan giving the Cons a means to possibly hold onto that seat.
We'll see soon anyhow.



Starmer has stated
ULEZ must go ahead.


The Uxbridge Labour fella says No to ULEZ
as he wants to get elected.

So Sod the Labour Plans

[joeysteele]

Starmer has stated
ULEZ must go ahead.


The Uxbridge Labour fella says No to ULEZ
as he wants to get elected.

So Sod the Labour Plans

Well there's a mess in itself.

The National leader saying one thing, the chosen candidate saying the opposite.

It's almost like possibly neither main party wants to really win the next election.

[arista]

Somerton & Frome By Election

Faye Marie Purbrick - Conservative Party
Neil William Guild - Labour Party
Sarah Joanne Dyke - Lib Dems
Martin John Dimery - Greens
Bruce David Evans - Reform Party
Peter Kevin Richardson - UKIP
Rosie Mitchell - Indie
Lorna Irene Bromley Corke - Christian People Alliance


Data: Ch4HDnews.

[Crimson Dynamo]

are there any non-binary elections??

[arista]

This Thursday

Uxbridge and South Ruislip

Danny Beales - Labour
Steve Tuckwell - Conservative
Blaise Baquiche - LibDems
Sarah Green - Green Party
Laurence Fox - Reclaim Party
Piers Corbyn - Let London Live

There is another 11 running
including UKIP and Climate Party
Not worthy of this list
in my view.


Ref:BBC1HD London Local News

[arista]

are there any non-binary elections??


Do not think so.

[arista]

North Yorkshire Nigel Adams is going so
Selby and Ainsty by-election 2023


Claire Holmes - Conservative
Keir Mather - Labour
Matt Walker - LibDems
Arnold Warneken - Green Party

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-65963453
The Full List.

[arista]

Selby and Ainsty by-election
was on Thursdays Newsnight
at the end.

Lib Dem fella (Matt Walker) thinks he will win?

Both Starmer and Sunak have visited.

A Reform UK Woman
[Dave Kent, Reform UK is standing there]
said we are not going away?
That made me Laugh
as they NEVER WIN anything....................

[joeysteele]

Selby and Ainsty by-election
was on Thursdays Newsnight
at the end.

Lib Dem fella (Matt Walker) thinks he will win?

Both Starmer and Sunak have visited.

A Reform UK Woman
[Dave Kent, Reform UK is standing there]
said we are not going away?
That made me Laugh
as they NEVER WIN anything....................



:joker:Matt sounds a bit like the very deluded former LibDem leader Jo Swinson in 2019 who believed she'd go from 23 seats to 326 and overturn the EU referendum result with no new vote.

It will be either held likely more narrowly by the Cons or it will be a possible extraordinary result for Labour.
I hope the latter but who knows.

[arista]

Somerton & Frome By Election

Faye Marie Purbrick - Conservative Party
Neil William Guild - Labour Party
Sarah Joanne Dyke - Lib Dems
Martin John Dimery - Greens
Bruce David Evans - Reform Party
Peter Kevin Richardson - UKIP
Rosie Mitchell - Indie
Lorna Irene Bromley Corke - Christian People Alliance


Data: Ch4HDnews.

Last Night
Newsnight BBC2HD
went to this nice place
Although many Shops like other places
are empty.

Spoke to the 4 main.


But the Reform Party
sent another fella to speak to Nick
Bruce Evans - was not well enough?

[joeysteele]

There shouldn't be at all any expectation or even probability that the Cons could lose 2 of these seats.
Even in by-elections.

Only the Uxbridge one should be a more likely loss.

The last time it has been said, that a sitting government lost 3 by-elections at the same time.
Was in 1968.
Then in 1970 Labour's previously won 96 overall majority was turned into a Con overall majority of 30.

So whatever the results of these they will be interesting because in reality the Cons should be comfortably holding on to 2 of these.
So all I'll say is good luck to Labour in Selby and Ainsty, plus too in Uxbridge and Ruislip.

Equally good luck to the LibDems in Somerton and Frome.
Hopefully there, the LibDems can now be felt as able to be trusted by voters voting to get the Cons out.
Not to use said votes to help keep or put the Cons in power.

It will be interesting too, to see what turnout there is when you recall the dismay voters must feel in these 3 seats.

[bots]

the word on the street is that there is a good chance the tories could lose them all

[arista]

the word on the street is that there is a good chance the tories could lose them all


That should Stop Sunak
Smiling

[UserSince2005]

Love a bi 3 way

[arista]

The Labour Danny Beales
is now avoiding Press. (Boris Johnson)

As a simple Question - he can not answer

The Mayor and Labour Leader Starmer
both back ULEZ



Danny Beales
is telling all voters - No to ULEZ


Question: How can he trick Voters
on a Policy he Can Not STOP.

[joeysteele]

The Labour Danny Beales
is now avoiding Press. (Boris Johnson)

As a simple Question - he can not answer

The Mayor and Labour Leader Starmer
both back ULEZ



Danny Beales
is telling all voters - No to ULEZ


Question: How can he trick Voters
on a Policy he Can Not STOP.


There's time to change Starmers thinking.
However unlikely it may be.
I can't see Starmer challenging Khan on this policy.

Danny Beales personally is against it and so if it can possibly be halted, were he elected he may have the better chance to influence perhaps even changes to the policy.
It's Sadiq Khan's policy and so unless he altered it, it will go ahead.
However that's for the voters to boot out Khan in London if they overall don't like it.

Not hold it against the candidate for one constituency seeking election on a wider range of issues too.

Many Con MPs don't agree with aspects of governnent policy, it doesn't mean if they were believed to be or could be good constituency MPs that they should not be voted for.

[arista]

There's time to change Starmers thinking.
However unlikely it may be.
I can't see Starmer challenging Khan on this policy.

Danny Beales personally is against it and so if it can possibly be halted, were he elected he may have the better chance to influence perhaps even changes to the policy.
It's Sadiq Khan's policy and so unless he altered it, it will go ahead.
However that's for the voters to boot out Khan in London if they overall don't like it.

Not hold it against the candidate for one constituency seeking election on a wider range of issues too.

Many Con MPs don't agree with aspects of governnent policy, it doesn't mean if they were believed to be or could be good constituency MPs that they should not be voted for.


No
24 hours to the vote


Beales is a Con

[joeysteele]

No
24 hours to the vote


Beales is a Con

Nah, he's a fairly okay guy.

[arista]

Nah, he's a fairly okay guy.



But he is Tricking Voters
by saying No ULEZ

Which is Un True.

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

I still will be surprised, ( although pleasantly) if the Cons lose Selby and Ainsty.
No way at all should they even come close to losing it.
It's one of the most solid of Con seats.

Labour must take Uxbridge and Ruislip.
That would be a backward step if they didn't.

Somerton and Frome has been and was LibDem up to 2015, I'd expect that to return to them.

[arista]

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[arista]

Sarah Joanne Dyke - Lib Dems

Lib Dems Claim they have won Somerton & Frome By Election



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1hF_9wX0AELHZj?format=jpg&name=900x900
SkyNewsHD

and BBC1HD

On Radio

LBC

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/21/00/73449827-0-image-m-15_1689896592356.jpg

Sunak is waiting

[arista]

Uxbridge and South Ruislip result is soon

[Swan]

Uxbridge and South Ruislip result is soon

There's a recount

[bots]

The Tories held uxbridge on the recount

[arista]

Lib Dem Win

Somerton/Frome


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2023/7/21/ffd7ff80-6cd8-4242-9d5b-c07d45d636af.jpg

Sarah Dyke, the new Lib Dem MP for Somerton and Frome,

[bots]

Lib Dem Win

Somerton/Frome

they got double the vote of the tories, so it wasn't even close

[arista]

they got double the vote of the tories, so it wasn't even close


Yes

21,187 Lib Dems
10,179 Conservative
3,944 Green
1,303 Reform UK
1,009 Labour



Ref:SkyNewsHD

[arista]

The Tories held Uxbridge on the recount

[Speaking after the results of the
election were declared, Steve Tuckwell said:
"This message from the Uxbridge and South Ruislip
residents is clear.]

Conservative : 13,965
Labour: 13,470
Green: 893
Lib Dems: 526

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/21/02/73454199-0-image-m-6_1689904612054.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/20/20/73444511-0-image-a-2_1689882158953.jpg

[Labour are eyeing a 'truly historic' victory
in Selby and Ainsty - but failed to win in
Uxbridge and South Ruislip]

[arista]

North Yorkshire just to go.

[arista]

https://yorkmix.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/keir-starmer-keir-mather-selby-pa.jpg


25 year old Keir Mather


Has Won



1 for Labour



Labour 18,456
Conservative 12,205
Green 1,838

[arista]

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1682229544982282240

[bots]

so the tories were within 500 votes of losing all 3 of the elections. I think that says it all and it's in wildly different areas of england, which also says a lot too

[Gusto Brunt]

Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. So very true. :p

[bots]

the vote shows that over the 3 elections, the tories are 21 points down. The polls currently have them as 18 points down, so the baseline of voters abandoning the tories is very much there

[MTVN]

Kinda ironic that the one seat they held was the one they were maybe most likely to lose. That stops it being a disastrous night for them and also stops it being a great night for Labour even after an impressive victory in the other seat

Maybe the people of Uxbridge weren't as badly served by Boris after all!

[bots]

Kinda ironic that the one seat they held was the one they were maybe most likely to lose. That stops it being a disastrous night for them and also stops it being a great night for Labour even after an impressive victory in the other seat

Maybe the people of Uxbridge weren't as badly served by Boris after all!

the newly elected mp was very keen to say it was all about the congestion charge and never mentioned Sunak's 5 key targets :laugh:

[joeysteele]

I found it incredible that the new Con MP in Uxbridge and Ruislip concentrated more on how Labour didn't take the seat rather than do the now tedious chant of Fishy's 5 pledges.
Congratulations to the new Con MP there because he did hold it against all the odds.
I didn't think ULEZ would make so big a difference but I clearly got that wrong..

Congratulations to the new LibDem MP in Somerton and Frome.
This was spectacular and this is a seat which fell to the Cons in 2015 when the backlash against the LibDems after the coalition hit.
The Cons have nothing to cheer here at all.

Selby and Ainsty, I didn't think Labour were going to pull this off.
So what a welcome result indeed and not just a few hundred votes majority but over 4,000.
Congratulations to Keir Mather there.
He could be someone to watch for the future.

The message really that comes from all 3 by elections are despite changing leaders TWICE from the 2019 election.
There's one party plummeting down while the other 2 parties are strongly rising.

Starmer however who in my view ended up taking Uxbridge and Ruislip for granted a little.
He needs to think hard on that result.
Perhaps pressure Khan too who seems to have let power go to his head as Mayor.

From just the Uxbridge and Ruislip result along with the other 2 results..
The message is, on these figures the Cons are out as to even Uxbridge and Ruislip because on those figures there that would be a hung parliament.
So the Cons out even on that one.
Because no other party at present now would assist the current PM and his current hard-line Con party to continue in government.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, admitted in an interview with BBC Breakfast “the
decision in Uxbridge was related to Ulez”, adding: “The Uxbridge result shows that when
you don’t listen to the voters, you don’t win elections.”

[bots]

it's the first sensible thing i've heard her say

[Liam-]

All round a very bad night for tories and polling companies

[joeysteele]

Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, admitted in an interview with BBC Breakfast “the
decision in Uxbridge was related to Ulez”, adding: “The Uxbridge result shows that when
you don’t listen to the voters, you don’t win elections.”

She was extremely looking like being really down.

She is right, I myself felt ULEZ could be an issue but I didn't think it would be a major factor as to the voting.
However it was and with even the new Con MP highlighting that in his acceptance speech.
It was odd, because even he looked down while saying Khan had lost this by-election for the Labour candidate.

Sadly no Party is really listening to the voters at present, Starmer is scared to detail and announce what he'd love to, despite knowing and being told what voters are crying out for.
He is relying on a more anti Con attitude building rather than building a really pro Labour feeling from voters.

Sunak too, he is leading a government that in my view is one of only secretive practices and more deceit than usual.
Despite the run of by-election losses with only a crumb given in Uxbridge and Ruislip.
He has come out with not a shred of humility.

Oh my, I'm a Labour member and will canvass and want them to win but honestly what a dire choice this Country has in the next election.
With 2 leaders who as to neither listen to voters nor what the majority of their Parties would like them to do.

It's not wise to just rely on a strong and getting stronger anti government emotion against the present Con governnent.
Which is what Labour is doing very frustatingly so.

[bots]

logically, labour should win the next election, but more and more elections are won by the party that captures the public support for the issue of the moment. Brexit did it for the tories last time, opposition to ULEZ did it for the london candidate this time. Who knows what issue of the moment will surface in the run up to the election

[Crimson Dynamo]

logically, labour should win the next election, but more and more elections are won by the party that captures the public support for the issue of the moment. Brexit did it for the tories last time, opposition to ULEZ did it for the london candidate this time. Who knows what issue of the moment will surface in the run up to the election

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1682314381038690304?s=20

[bots]

add to that the woke agenda, the banks, immigration. There are a few bubbling topics that could win/lose an election

[joeysteele]

Well it's got Ed Davey very excited anyhow.

[bots]

Well it's got Ed Davey very excited anyhow.

the lib dems are always like that until the results come in for the GE :laugh:

[Cherie]

Its pretty grim that Labour didn't see the extension of the ULEZ charge as an issue and only changed tack half way through the campaign, how out of touch can you be?

[arista]

Its pretty grim that Labour didn't see the extension of the ULEZ charge as an issue and only changed tack half way through the campaign, how out of touch can you be?


Yes
Danny did not think it was important
at the start, then was scared of the press.

Danny was Labour Stupid

[arista]

Well it's got Ed Davey very excited anyhow.

Still a Small party

[joeysteele]

Yes
Danny did not think it was important
at the start, then was scared of the press.

Danny was Labour Stupid


You called it right as to ULEZ, well done.
Good forecasting.

It did become the main issue there.
Danny tried to reconcile the message from the doorsteps on ULEZ with the fudging of Starmer on it.
Certainly that's the major factor that led to not winning this seat.
I felt for Danny really.

However, Uxbridge and Ruislip, nor when it was just Uxbridge, plus Ruislip as Ruislip and Northwood, this area has NEVER elected Labour
Not even under Blair in 1997.

Whereas in Selby and Ainsty, when Selby was its own constituency Labour did hold Selby marginally between 1997 to 2010.

[arista]

The 2 Keirs and Angela

Now Live

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/21/09/73462113-12323023-image-a-1_1689927254696.jpg

Last Night Keir, 25

[arista]

Uxbridge and South Ruislip - Conservative HOLD

Steve Tuckwell, Tories: 13,965 votes (45.16%)

Danny Beales, Labour: 13,470 votes (43.56%)

Sarah Green, Green: 893 votes (2.89%)


Somerton and Frome - Lib Dem GAIN from Tories

Sarah Dyke, Lib Dem: 21,187 votes (54.62%)

Faye Purbrick, Tories: 10,179 votes (26.24%)

Martin Dimery, Green: 3,944 votes (10.17%)



Selby and Ainsty - Labour GAIN from Tories

Keir Mather, Labour: 16,456 votes (45.96%)

Claire Holmes, Tories: 12,295 votes (34.34%)

Arnold Warneken, Green: 1,838 votes (5.13%)




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12323023/Keir-Starmer-byelection-Tories-Selby-Lib-Dems-Somerton-Rishi-Sunak-Labour-Uxbridge.html

[arista]

You nutter
using orange Paper like Just Stop Oli gits

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1682370044750180352

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/21/09/73462263-12323023-image-a-2_1689927582172.jpg

Sunak happy with his one win


He Stated no one expected
the Conservatives to win this Uxbridge seat.

[arista]

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[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Rishi Sunak is preparing to launch a more
aggressive political campaign in an attempt
to shift Labour's lead in the polls with
divisive policies on crime, migrant boats
and transgender rights, The Times reports.]


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[UserSince2005]

Love a bi 3 way

This is one ****ed up 3 way.

The conservatives are the straight acting dom top
The lib dem is the girl in the middle not getting too much attention
And labour is the gay bottom being destroyed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – The anti-Ulez victory in Uxbridge makes clear the only way the
Tories can win the next general election: the net zero targets and all the
impositions that would hit voters’ pockets must be scrapped in favour of
common-sense policies to grow the economy and make people’s lives easier.

The ban on new petrol cars in 2030 must go, as must the push for expensive
and inefficient heat pumps. Rishi Sunak should reshuffle his Cabinet to indicate
this radical change in direction.

Francis Bown
London E3

[bots]

i think the ditching of gas boilers and petrol/diesel cars have to go, the targets aren't going to be achieved anyway

[joeysteele]

i think the ditching of gas boilers and petrol/diesel cars have to go, the targets aren't going to be achieved anyway

I can agree with this.

The problem with the green issues are, not that they're wrong in my view, also too when asked about support for green issues, in polling they are even strongly supported.
Then however once there's a financial issue for people such as with ULEZ and the upgrading of vehicles etc; then that support drifts away.

How to reconcile that is the problem both Labour and the Cons need to find a way to address.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think i read that Khan made £100 million revenue in Ulez fines in 3 years

#cashgrab

[arista]

Starmer talking live in Nottingham
has had go at ULEZ,
picking on old cars, poor folks,
having to pay £12.50
a journey.

He does not want to lose other outer London seats/
at the general election.

But the London mayor will not stop it.

[DemolitionRed]

This greenwashed tax doesn't make the air any cleaner, does it?

[joeysteele]

Starmer talking live in Nottingham
has had go at ULEZ,
picking on old cars, poor folks,
having to pay £12.50
a journey.

He does not want to lose other outer London seats/
at the general election.

But the London mayor will not stop it.

I understand a need to do something further on green issues however I cannot go with Khan on this.

This was generally accepted and it was Boris Johnson as Mayor who brought it in place.
For the London area.

However Khan has decided to extend it to the outer London areas.
Which has met with some opposition to it.
Did he consult enough or properly.
Starmer does need to apply some pressure to Khan on this as to its extension to the outer London areas certainly.

[bots]

Khan has given 9 months notice of the scheme, during a period that is very difficult for everyone

[arista]

Khan has given 9 months notice of the scheme, during a period that is very difficult for everyone


Yes change is only temp

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[Michael Gove is quoted in the Sunday Telegraph
as warning against the "inflexible" application
of environmental policies.
The paper says there is a "backlash" among
Conservative MPs with some concerned about
net zero targets.
It follows the party's drubbing in two by-elections
and its ability to cling on to Uxbridge
in another by campaigning against
the Ulez scheme.]

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