Alzheimer's drug has been hailed as a "turning point" by scientists.

[arista]

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Sounds good news.

[arista]

Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers
the National Health may not be able to afford it



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1st show with Jeremy Vine at the start

[Zizu]

Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers
the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live
1st show with Jeremy Vine at the start


There’s not enough money to cope with the current situation…


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[arista]

There’s not enough money to cope with the current situation…





All they can hope
is prices come down
by next year

[Zizu]

All they can hope
is prices come down
by next year


Down to FREE maybe …


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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The i's lead story is about a study which
found erectile dysfunction drugs, like Viagra,
reduces the risk of developing Alzheimer's by 18%.
However, scientists are warning men
against starting to take the drugs as
a precautionary measure.
Dr Leah Mursaleen, of Alzheimer's Research UK,
told the paper the study is "encouraging" but
doesn't confirm whether the drugs can
"slow or stop the disease".]

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[UserSince2005]

NHS needs to be abolished asap

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The i leads with a study that has found
that anyone with two copies of
the APOE4 gene has at least a 95% chance
of developing Alzheimer's.
It reports that the "genetic breakthrough
raises hopes that patients can be
identified and treated earlier".]


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[arista]

NHS needs to be abolished asap


No
Labour is keeping it.

[Ammi]

…I wonder how many have been treated with donanemab since the trials were completed…it’s good that the gene detection can predict it much earlier, though…

[joeysteele]

No
Labour is keeping it.

Is that a veiled possible admission that the Cons don't intend to keep it ?

[joeysteele]

…I wonder how many have been treated with donanemab since the trials were completed…it’s good that the gene detection can predict it much earlier, though…

Yes Ammi, your last point is really important as to earlier diagnosis of this really heartbreaking and cruel condition.

Anything that will help to ease the uncertainty and fear of it is extremely welcome.

[arista]

Is that a veiled possible admission that the Cons don't intend to keep it ?


No
of course, Conservatives are keeping the NHS


I said Labour
as everyone seems to think they will win the G.E.

[joeysteele]

No
of course, Conservatives are keeping the NHS


I said Labour
as everyone seems to think they will win the G.E.

I'm pleased to read that.
Thank you

[DemRed]

[QUOTE=arista;11310348]Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers
the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live


It costs a lot more than that to keep an adult in a care/nursing home.
My grandmother has vascular dementia. She has been in a nursing home for just under 16 months and because she had assets, has been a self payer. So far its cost her over £100,000. Now the government have had to step in and fund for her because she's down to her last £6k. Apart from her VD she's fit and healthy and likely to live quite a few more years.

[arista]

[QUOTE=arista;11310348]Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers
the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live


It costs a lot more than that to keep an adult in a care/nursing home.
My grandmother has vascular dementia. She has been in a nursing home for just under 16 months and because she had assets, has been a self payer. So far its cost her over £100,000. Now the government have had to step in and fund for her because she's down to her last £6k. Apart from her VD she's fit and healthy and likely to live quite a few more years.


Very Sorry to hear that.


I assume if the Labour Party
take over, changes will happen.

[Mystic Mock]

[QUOTE=arista;11310348]Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers
the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live


It costs a lot more than that to keep an adult in a care/nursing home.
My grandmother has vascular dementia. She has been in a nursing home for just under 16 months and because she had assets, has been a self payer. So far its cost her over £100,000. Now the government have had to step in and fund for her because she's down to her last £6k. Apart from her VD she's fit and healthy and likely to live quite a few more years.

I just wanted to say that I'm sorry to hear about your Grandmother having Dementia.

And with the Alzheimer's Drug, I'm expecting that the price will come down once there's more of it in circulation.

[arista]

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[Maru]

The nice thing is in testing this, they'll likely find more effective ways to treat over time. It's just the start.

[Ammi]

…I’m not sure with this, I’d obviously love to think it’s the ‘breakthrough drug’ that’s being hailed by some but then there are others who aren’t so convinced so it’s a bit conflicted, I feel…and still has some very concerning ‘side effects’ like bleeding on the brain…which is about as severe as a side effect can get…so hadn’t been approved in Europe/the UK…and now it has but with no mention of those side effects not being a serious concern anymore…?…it feel very quick…maybe COVID vaccine type quick….

[bots]

i think that a side effect that causes brain swelling/bleeding is very concerning. It may well be dependent on other circulatory system health etc. Also, what most people don't realise is that just about everyone has some form of brain imperfection/defect. Messing with the brain has never been an exact science and we are a long way from it being exact

[arista]

Sadly the NHS can not fund this new medicine,
anyway.

At £20,000 per portion
it is far too high a cost.


Private Customers can pay it etc.

[UserSince2005]

NHS is a disgrace.

[smudgie]

It may not be affordable at the moment, but it is a breakthrough.
By the time it is affordable on the NHS we may be lucky enough to have eradicated the terrible side effects.
In the meantime it would be worth considering that those younger ones that suffer with this should be accepted for the drug.

[bots]

Medical research is an area that AI has improved beyond anyones expectation so we should expect many more spectacular advances in the near future. The cost will always be an issue though

[arista]

It may not be affordable at the moment, but it is a breakthrough.
By the time it is affordable on the NHS we may be lucky enough to have eradicated the terrible side effects.
In the meantime it would be worth considering that those younger ones that suffer with this should be accepted for the drug.


Yes
Hospital Doctor spoke on Ch5HDnews
said it slows down the progress.

He said it would come down in price,
in time.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Well it's a start but it's not yet a wonder drug sadly.

However it is sad that it's considered too expensive to be prescribed generally.
Anything that can help with this heartbreaking and cruel condition should be there for ALL.

[arista]

Sadly
the Drug is too Expensive for the the NHS.
At this time

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[Ammi]

…this is the problem, although the NHS is available to the every person…sadly, medical research advancement is often only for the wealthy…I’m not sure sadly that, that’s ever going to change…

[arista]

…this is the problem, although the NHS is available to the every person…sadly, medical research advancement is often only for the wealthy…I’m not sure sadly that, that’s ever going to change…


Of Course.

[smudgie]

Too expensive for what would be gained.:shrug:
I suppose that money could go to saving lives elsewhere.