View Full Version : Woking :Murder of 10-year-old girl (Sara Sharif) , 3 adults left the country
arista
11-08-2023, 04:11 PM
3 Adults left the UK on the 9th
15th of August
post-mortem
Ch5HDnews Live
[International manhunt launched
for three wanted over
murder of 10-year-old girl - as police reveal
they fled Britain HOURS before her body
was found in Woking house]
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/11/16/74218327-12397785-image-a-20_1691767438779.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12397785/International-manhunt-launched-three-wanted-murder-10-year-old-girl-police-reveal-fled-Britain-HOURS-body-Woking-house.html
Cherie
11-08-2023, 04:19 PM
what the hell
arista
11-08-2023, 04:22 PM
what the hell
On the 15th the Post mortem
should tell if she was raped
& murdered
3 Running away abroad
tell you something was evil
Sorry to be so graphic.
arista
11-08-2023, 04:25 PM
[Neighbours said that a Pakistani family
with six 'very young' children moved
into the house in April.
One mother, who wished not to be named,
said she was 'traumatised' by the news,
adding that her children were 'terrified'. ]
Not that big a manhunt if the authorities wont release the names of the suspects.....hmmmmm
arista
11-08-2023, 04:31 PM
Not that big a manhunt if the authorities wont release the names of the suspects.....hmmmmm
Hang on, their names are sent abroad
that is essential
Assisting the other police in that nation
They will come onto the press
in a day or two
Oliver_W
11-08-2023, 04:37 PM
Honour killing?
arista
11-08-2023, 04:39 PM
Honour killing?
I really Hope not
arista
11-08-2023, 05:30 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/11/16/74184941-12397785-A_detective_wearing_blue_gloves_and_face_mask_carr ies_items_in_a-a-4_1691766978940.jpg
A Detective removing items
Is this the case where the three suspects have left the country yesterday ?
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Gusto Brunt
12-08-2023, 06:47 AM
Sounds like a disgusting grooming gang.
Poor girl, what she must have went through. RIP. :(
Cherie
12-08-2023, 06:53 AM
Honour killing?
Bit young for that I would have thought?
arista
12-08-2023, 11:33 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/12/11/74243527-0-image-a-33_1691835777740.jpg
[Taxi driver father of girl, 10,
murdered in Woking house
before three suspects fled UK - sparking
international manhunt]
arista
12-08-2023, 11:36 AM
[He's been living in the UK for years
and is originally from Pakistan.
He works as a taxi driver with
a hackney plate outside Woking station.'
Another neighbour confirmed the identity
when shown his social media profile and added:
'He was a big fan of Imran Khan and had
a picture of him in his car.'
It comes after neighbours last night claimed
that two cars had disappeared from the driveway
of the house the same night Sara died.]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12399829/Pictured-Taxi-driver-father-girl-10-murdered-Woking-house-three-suspects-fled-UK-sparking-international-manhunt.html
How on Earth are the suspects able to leave the country !!??
hijaxers
12-08-2023, 01:09 PM
Honour killing?
Ony ten years old though and where are the other 5 kids i wonder.
arista
12-08-2023, 01:11 PM
How on Earth are the suspects able to leave the country !!??
The 3 left
before it was known, she was dead.
Cherie
12-08-2023, 01:12 PM
it sounds like a domestic abuse case sadly
Honour killing?
it's unfortunately what it sounds like to me
Niamh.
15-08-2023, 03:24 PM
it sounds like a domestic abuse case sadly
Her mother is Polish and was out of the country, sounds like maybe the little girl was staying with her father
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/woking-death-girl-sara-sharif-murder-hammond-road-tribute-mum-surrey-police-b1100666.html
Livia
15-08-2023, 03:28 PM
It'll be interesting to hear which country the people involved fled to.
Niamh.
15-08-2023, 03:33 PM
It'll be interesting to hear which country the people involved fled to.
I mean clearly just going by her name "Sharif" and quotes from Aristas post, her father is probably Pakistani. What does that prove to you exactly? What nationality were the ones who tortured and killed Finley Boden?
I mean clearly just going by her name "Shariff" and quotes from Aristas post, her father is probably Pakistani. What does that prove to you exactly? What nationality were the ones who tortured and killed Finley Boden?
I mean it'll be interesting in the sense that some countries will play ball and do all they can to assist the UK Police, and others not so much.
arista
15-08-2023, 03:48 PM
A post-mortem examination is due to
take place this afternoon.
That will answer
so many things.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/15/12/74333235-12407773-Sara_Sharif_was_found_at_the_550_000_home_in_the_q uiet_Surrey_vi-a-35_1692098083590.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12407773/Beautiful-little-girl-10-dead-Surrey-home-police-arrived-hunt-continues-three-suspects.html
Niamh.
15-08-2023, 03:57 PM
I mean it'll be interesting in the sense that some countries will play ball and do all they can to assist the UK Police, and others not so much.
It seems there is an agreement between the Uk and Pakistan, it says this (it doesn't mention criminals who haven't been convicted but you would imagine if they have this agreement in place they might be open to sending suspects in a child murder back for trial/investigation)
According to officials, under this agreement, if a person has been convicted by a Pakistani court but is residing in the UK, the government will be able to bring them back from there. Similarly, if someone has committed a crime in the UK and has been convicted by a court there, but has come to Pakistan, the government of Pakistan will be bound to extradite him to the UK.
https://mmnews.tv/whom-is-extradition-treaty-between-pakistan-and-uk-applicable/
arista
17-08-2023, 04:38 PM
The post-mortem examination
done on Tuesday.
They have said Cause of Death
Still to be Determined ?
5PM Ch5HDnews Live
6PM ITV1HD London news
stated more tests are to be done
arista
19-08-2023, 11:36 AM
UK has No Extradition with Pakistan
No wonder the killers went there
fast.
The 10 year has bad bruising on her body.
Why are the Medical Team taking so long to give
the full Post Mortem?
Cherie
19-08-2023, 03:50 PM
Sara Sharif was found dead at her home in Woking on 10 August – one day after three people police wish to speak with in connection with the death, including her father and stepmother, are thought to have left the UK.
A post-mortem examination, which took place on Tuesday, did not establish a cause of death but revealed the child had suffered “multiple and extensive” injuries – which were likely caused over a “sustained and extended” period of time.
Pakistani police official Imran Ahmed said on Saturday that officers found evidence that Mr Sharif briefly returned to his family home in Jhelum, Punjab, before leaving. It is unclear where he went after this.
UK police are working with international agencies, including Interpol, the National Crime Agency and the UK Foreign Office, to progress their enquiries with Pakistani authorities.
Cherie
19-08-2023, 03:50 PM
To my mind the pictures that have been released of her are pretty sexualised, I hope she wasn't raped as well as physically abused
Oliver_W
19-08-2023, 07:22 PM
To my mind the pictures that have been released of her are pretty sexualised, I hope she wasn't raped as well as physically abused
I'm just gonna go there and say one of the men was her "husband"
arista
23-08-2023, 03:49 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/DA10/production/_130842855_sharifpic.jpg.webp
[Urfan Sharif and his partner Beinash Batool are sought by police]
she wore a hijab when she was out and was home schooled so she could have been beaten to a pulp and no-one would have known
Cherie
23-08-2023, 06:10 PM
she wore a hijab when she was out and was home schooled so she could have been beaten to a pulp and no-one would have known
The family were well known to the police and social services for YEARS ...poor girl think she was abused from day dot and they have 5 other kids
arista
23-08-2023, 06:24 PM
Evil Killing
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2023, 07:56 PM
why is she dressed up with make-up on like an adult?
Oliver_W
23-08-2023, 07:59 PM
why is she dressed up with make-up on like an adult?
Again I'm just gonna "go there" and say it was a "wedding" photo ...
Cherie
23-08-2023, 08:00 PM
The woman is her stepmother ....
why is she dressed up with make-up on like an adult?
it's obviously dodgy, given their strict religious stance
hijaxers
23-08-2023, 08:26 PM
Pure evil behind closed doors again,disgusting people.
Oliver_W
25-08-2023, 10:07 PM
why is she dressed up with make-up on like an adult?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/15/12/74333235-12407773-Sara_Sharif_was_found_at_the_550_000_home_in_the_q uiet_Surrey_vi-a-35_1692098083590.jpg
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Do you mean that picture? Because that's fairly obviously an Ancient Egypt costune.
arista
29-08-2023, 10:47 AM
The Inquest into her death
is now going to be
Feb. 2024
SkyNewsHD Live
[Meanwhile, Pakistan police said they were
widening the search for the family of a Sara.]
arista
05-09-2023, 12:13 PM
The Killers Grandfather in Pakistan
is sticking up for his Evil Son.
He said they must come out of hiding.
Police keep arresting them parents family
Speaking on BBC News
arista
06-09-2023, 09:05 AM
Now a Video
of the Stepmother claims
they will talk to the UK Police.
SkyNewsHD Asian Reporter
got the video,
last night.
https://news.sky.com/story/sara-sharif-stepmother-of-girl-found-dead-at-woking-home-says-family-willing-to-co-operate-with-uk-authorities-12955847
arista
06-09-2023, 10:53 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/06/09/75111433-12485575-image-a-12_1693988691415.jpg
[In a remarkable video released this morning,
Urfan Sharif and his partner Beinash Batool
said they will 'fight our case in court',
revealing how they have gone into hiding
'as everyone is scared for their safety']
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12485575/Sara-Sharif-grieving-mother-injuries-mortuary-Pakistan-Woking.html
Just trying to protect themselves, not an ounce of remorse. His daughter and her step daughter dead because of them, they don't care, they're just trying to wriggle out of it. They know staying in Pakistan is worse than coming back here and going to prison, they're trying to garner sympathy in the hope they're get reduced sentences . It shows even more their levels of evil and remorselessness.
arista
06-09-2023, 04:13 PM
Just trying to protect themselves, not an ounce of remorse. His daughter and her step daughter dead because of them, they don't care, they're just trying to wriggle out of it. They know staying in Pakistan is worse than coming back here and going to prison, they're trying to garner sympathy in the hope they're get reduced sentences . It shows even more their levels of evil and remorselessness.
Yes they must
get arrested.
Ch5HDnews
said the Sara's injuries were not from one day
So chucking her down the stairs
changes nothing
This was a Murder
UserSince2005
06-09-2023, 06:56 PM
Bin Laden their assess!
rusticgal
06-09-2023, 11:20 PM
Scum…
arista
07-09-2023, 01:29 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b162f0b6-887a-4a0b-9418-8bee50adfddf.png
arista
07-09-2023, 01:30 AM
It was Murder
why are they hiding in Pakistan.
arista
11-09-2023, 02:19 PM
The 5 Children
have been rescued by Police
in Pakistan from the grandfathers home
SkyNewsHD Live
the 3 adults are on their way back to the UK
arista
13-09-2023, 02:16 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/13/14/75385075-0-image-m-12_1694613534087.jpg
Arrest them on Arrival
arista
13-09-2023, 06:30 PM
Their Plane has Landed at Gatwick
Police & Detectives are waiting to Arrest all 3 of them
Ch4HDnews Live
When adults torture a 10 year old girl over an extensive period of time, then ultimately murder her, they need to be shot.
I hope all 3 of them get beaten to death in prison.
arista
13-09-2023, 07:24 PM
All 3 Arrested for Murder.
Police have them.
arista
14-09-2023, 02:49 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/sharif-flight-showing-police-leading-844780395.jpg?w=1240
Yesterday all 3 Handcuffed on the Plane.
UserSince2005
14-09-2023, 03:25 PM
As they should be. Why did this not happen to Prince Harry when he returned too?
arista
15-09-2023, 06:20 AM
All 3 now Charged with Murder
https://news.sky.com/story/sara-sharifs-father-stepmother-and-uncle-appear-in-court-charged-with-10-year-olds-murder-12961580
To Appear in Guildford
Court this morning.
arista
15-09-2023, 04:16 PM
All 3 are locked up.
Next due in court,
London Tuesday 19th Sept.
Charged with Murder
Ch5HDnews Live
Cherie
15-09-2023, 04:38 PM
I would imagine it was the step mother, but the men let it happen
poor girl, she is at peace now
arista
19-09-2023, 12:23 PM
In Court today
The Girl had injuries going back months.
Evil Murder.
1st Dec from Pre Court
then on Trial in Sept 2024
All 3 Remaining Locked up
BBC.
Cherie
14-10-2024, 03:36 PM
Trial has started
The father said he LEGALLY punished her and she died.....
timeline here
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/key-dates-in-sara-sharif-death-after-alleged-campaign-of-abuse/ar-AA1sfnPb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ebb601dddc7048f9aaed4a0c747941e4&ei=8
arista
14-10-2024, 03:39 PM
Yes Real Evil Dad
Cherie
14-10-2024, 03:40 PM
She had iron marks on her buttocks..... burn in hell all of you
arista
14-10-2024, 04:07 PM
All 3 Adults are Guilty.
If only one of them reported it
Ref: Ch5HDnews Live
…I started to read an article about the trial/details and then didn’t continue…these were the people that she trusted most in the world…it’s sickening what some humans are capable of but also actually practise and carry out and with a helpless vulnerable child…I hope their prison sentence is very very long and reflects the life they took and the torture on Sara…/…sadly, that’s not something we always have faith in…
arista
15-10-2024, 10:40 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/cfa6/live/cc87fd20-8a6c-11ef-81f8-1f28bcc5be15.jpg.webp
Kazanne
15-10-2024, 12:28 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/cfa6/live/cc87fd20-8a6c-11ef-81f8-1f28bcc5be15.jpg.webp
These barstewerts need to dangle from a rope ,vile, heartless ,and cowardly
arista
15-10-2024, 12:32 PM
These barstewerts need to dangle from a rope ,vile, heartless ,and cowardly
Yes all 3 are Guilty
of Murder of a innocent 10 year old girl.
…’neighbours heard regular screaming’…and shouting with abusive language from the adults and the school noted bruising on Sara and her beginning to wear a hijab to try to cover that bruising…but still this wasn’t able to be prevented…Sara’s story is horrifying …
arista
15-10-2024, 05:19 PM
…’neighbours heard regular screaming’…and shouting with abusive language from the adults and the school noted bruising on Sara and her beginning to wear a hijab to try to cover that bruising…but still this want able to be prevented…Sara’s story is horrifying …
Yes the 3 of them are Evil.
I would subject them to the same treatment they dished out
Oliver_W
15-10-2024, 05:56 PM
Trial has started
The father said he LEGALLY punished her and she died.....
timeline here
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/key-dates-in-sara-sharif-death-after-alleged-campaign-of-abuse/ar-AA1sfnPb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ebb601dddc7048f9aaed4a0c747941e4&ei=8
"Legally" ? According to which set of laws?
Cherie
19-10-2024, 09:49 AM
The poor mite must have been in such pain in the weeks before she died
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/multiple-unexplained-fractures-in-25-locations-on-sara-sharif-s-body-court-told/ar-AA1svfp5?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=016513b22acf40a2b39d8e75d2ec49f3&ei=6
Cherie
13-11-2024, 06:36 PM
He has now admitted to beating her with a cricket bat and a metal pole ...what kind of monster
arista
13-11-2024, 07:01 PM
Evil
Kazanne
13-11-2024, 07:03 PM
String them up,bastards
Ninastar
13-11-2024, 07:42 PM
Hang them by their dicks and then let others beat them with a metal pole/cricket bat/iron etc
Poor kid. Unfortunately this kind of abuse against girls is pretty common in certain communities.
Cherie
11-12-2024, 06:17 PM
Father, Stepmother and Uncle all found guilty of her murder, the attacks on this little girl nearly made me cry
25 fractures
Burn marks from a domestic iron
Bite marks
Scalded with boiling water
Beaten with a cricket bat
Make shift hood of a plastic bag parcel tape put over her head
I am confident prison will deal out real justice for Sara
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/sara-sharif-murder-father-and-stepmother-guilty-of-killing-10-year-old-girl-after-years-of-domestic-abuse/ar-AA1vFw3k?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Her little face in that picture is heartbreaking
arista
11-12-2024, 06:21 PM
Yes, all 3 Evil.
I hope they all die in prison.
String them up,bastards
Yep
Hunt them down for sure then make an example of them
arista
12-12-2024, 12:44 AM
Because Most of the Main Newspapers
are all on this Evil Killing
I will post a group photo of all of them later.
arista
12-12-2024, 12:46 AM
This is the Online Only Front page :
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6cd85eb7-edb0-4020-bb4a-8e9d904d3773.jpeg
…the torture and death of Sara is beyond any evil of human thought, really…even in a horror/nightmare fiction, it would be extreme but to know that the people responsible were the people who she trusted most in the world for protection…the most brutal and evil of crimes…and the most awful examples of ‘humankind’…so heartbreaking…
Cherie
12-12-2024, 07:41 AM
I was heartened to hear Dame de Souza saying yesterday that she did not want to hear ...lessons will be learned and yet another serious case review ...hopefully finally action will be taken rather than box ticking, News at 10 showed a clip of Sara singing while playing a toy guitar, its inexplicable how he could have meted out such punishments on such a beautiful little girl ...and how she managed to stay smiling in photos even with obvious bruises on her face..RIP little angel
arista
12-12-2024, 11:31 AM
What went wrong
were they changed her School
to homeschooled.
Now the Labour Party
claim all home-schooled
will go on an official register.
Livia
12-12-2024, 11:31 AM
Sara was known to social services since before she was born. Her father was a known thug and a bully. How was Sara allowed to be home schooled? Social Services are culpable but no one will lose their worthless jobs. Over 800 children were killed or seriously harmed by abuse in England last year. How can this happen?
arista
12-12-2024, 11:32 AM
Sara was known to social services since before she was born. Her father was a known thug and a bully. How was Sara allowed to be home schooled? Social Services are culpable but no one will lose their worthless jobs. Over 800 children were killed or seriously harmed by abuse in England last year. How can this happen?
Yes it stinks
Cherie
12-12-2024, 11:34 AM
Sara was known to social services since before she was born. Her father was a known thug and a bully. How was Sara allowed to be home schooled? Social Services are culpable but no one will lose their worthless jobs. Over 800 children were killed or seriously harmed by abuse in England last year. How can this happen?
The school noticed bruising and referred the case to social services, the case was CLOSED after 6 DAYs, is this another situation where the race card was played? the final red flag should have been her removal to be home schooled, not sure her half siblings were ...I doubt it though
Livia
12-12-2024, 11:40 AM
The school noticed bruising and referred the case to social services, the case was CLOSED after 3 weeks, is this another situation where the race card was played? the final red flag should have been her removal to be home schooled, not sure her half siblings were ...I doubt it though
The race card was definitely played. They covered that little girl's bruises with a hijab and they all but disappeared to the people who should have saved her.
My heart just breaks for the little girl
Cherie
12-12-2024, 03:59 PM
Sorry that should have read social services closed the case after 6 days....speedy huh? I have also read that the school staff were afraid to ask why she was suddenly wearing a hijab....
Apparently now kids known to social services cannot be taken out for home schooling without approval from council :facepalm: surely this should be a complete no no for vulnerable kids????? school being the only safe place they might have....this country is just ridiculous
Is it correct that 15 different incidents were reported to the authorities !??
That is unforgivable
arista
13-12-2024, 02:56 AM
BBC News Text:
[A review of safeguarding data has shown Sara
was one of 485 children killed or seriously hurt
in the year to March,
the Daily Mirror reports.
The paper says many of the children affected
were hurt by relatives who were meant
to be caring for them and that
babies suffered the most.]
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-eeb6c22b-f096-4247-a487-00431f88e24a.jpeg
Livia
13-12-2024, 10:07 AM
How was the child in her father's care when he was a known violent bully, and not in the care of her Polish mother?
Cherie
13-12-2024, 10:14 AM
How was the child in her father's care when he was a known violent bully, and not in the care of her Polish mother?
She was in foster care for a time as well before being handed over to him, Judges in these cases should be held to account, there seems to be no accountability apart from lessons need to be learned, so tired of children being brutally murdered and nothing changes
Livia
13-12-2024, 01:46 PM
She was in foster care for a time as well before being handed over to him, Judges in these cases should be held to account, there seems to be no accountability apart from lessons need to be learned, so tired of children being brutally murdered and nothing changes
Heartbreaking...
So the first reported incident of violence towards the poor little girl was when she was just 3 WEEKS old !!
She had TEN years of suffering
…in another aspect of this, I’m not sure what will happen to the siblings…atm they’ve been taken from their grandparents in Pakistani and placed into State care there…but I think there is a high court order being applied for to bring them back to the UK…but obviously that will be for Pakistani officials to agree to as well and then I presume they’ll just be in the care system here also…more victims…
arista
18-12-2024, 02:19 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-976c582b-defc-4f36-9aa3-3f71d07d58fa.jpeg
…why can’t life imprisonment be life imprisonment with no ‘minimum served’ time attached to it…that minimum to serve may be 40yrs and 33yrs but why must it be there at all…why can’t it be a life sentence and never to be released …especially as I’m sure we’ve also seen ‘minimum terms’ to serve reduced for some very heinous crimes…obviously life imprisonments for them both is what we would have hoped for, for the savage and brutal prolonged torture and killing of Sara…just beyond evil and so tragically they were the people that poor Sara had as her guardians of safety…
it's got a lot to do with probability of winning an appeal. If a whole life term was the sentence then a lawyer could come along in the future when there was a more sympathetic home secretary and have the sentenced quashed. It's more difficult to appeal the lesser 40+ years sentence
Cherie
18-12-2024, 06:51 AM
His final act was to batter her with a metal pole because he was called home as she appeared unwell and floppy, he battered her because he said she was making it up...what kind of monster is he
arista
18-12-2024, 07:15 AM
His final act was to batter her with a metal pole because he was called home as she appeared unwell and floppy, he battered her because he said she was making it up...what kind of monster is he
Sadly True
Evil Monster
Niamh.
18-12-2024, 08:22 AM
Such a disturbing case, that poor child. I think social services have some answering to do there too, why did they keep putting her back when they knew she was being beaten?
Cherie
18-12-2024, 10:25 AM
Such a disturbing case, that poor child. I think social services have some answering to do there too, why did they keep putting her back when they knew she was being beaten?
apparently the Dad was less of a risk because he remarried....Saras natural Mum is Polish ....you could not make it up
Niamh.
18-12-2024, 10:28 AM
apparently the Dad was less of a risk because he remarried....Saras natural Mum is Polish ....you could not make it up
Wasn't she originally placed with the mother though and then taken back from her because she was abusing her too? Just saw something like that said on the news last night
Cherie
18-12-2024, 10:31 AM
Wasn't she originally placed with the mother though and then taken back from her because she was abusing her too? Just saw something like that said on the news last night
Yes thats right, the Dad was a known domestic abuser and she was at risk before she was born, poor little mite, she was then singled out because she was the step child, think the step Mum had a lot more to do with it than was admitted, the bite marks were hers, but she refused to give a sample ....not sure why she wasn't obliged to
Niamh.
18-12-2024, 10:34 AM
Yes thats right, the Dad was a known domestic abuser and she was at risk before she was born, poor little mite, she was then singled out because she was the step child, think the step Mum had a lot more to do with it than was admitted, the bite marks were hers, but she refused to give a sample ....not sure why she wasn't obliged to
No I mean her birth mother, did they not say on the news that she'd been placed with her birth mother first then taken from her because she was abusing her and put her with the dad and step mother (who went on to kill her). They are absolute animals, they didn't get long enough as far as I'm concerned
Cherie
18-12-2024, 10:44 AM
No I mean her birth mother, did they not say on the news that she'd been placed with her birth mother first then taken from her because she was abusing her and put her with the dad and step mother (who went on to kill her). They are absolute animals, they didn't get long enough as far as I'm concerned
Yes sorry she was with her Polish mother originally, who had to cheek to call these people executioners ....didnt appear to bear any responsibility herself
Niamh.
18-12-2024, 10:56 AM
Yes sorry she was with her Polish mother originally, who had to cheek to call these people executioners ....didnt appear to bear any responsibility herself
How could one child be that unlucky with all the adults around her?
Cherie
18-12-2024, 11:01 AM
How could one child be that unlucky with all the adults around her?
I dont know, we all thought Baby P would be the turning point but so many kids have suffered the same fate since and I doubt it will change, people being **** at their jobs and no accountability
Niamh.
18-12-2024, 11:25 AM
I dont know, we all thought Baby P would be the turning point but so many kids have suffered the same fate since and I doubt it will change, people being **** at their jobs and no accountability
Yeah looks like it, it's just the worst thing imo when it's defenseless little kids/babies
…this is quite a long article but it’s quite informative in giving some background to the case from before Sara was born in terms of parents and other siblings…
Behind Sara’s smile was a life of violence and torture…
It was at 2.47am on 10 August last year when Surrey Police received a call from Islamabad airport in Pakistan.
“I’ve killed my daughter,” said the man on the end of the phone, sobbing loudly. “It wasn’t my intention to kill her, but I beat her up too much.”
He told the police call handler he had only meant to punish her. “I’m a cruel father,” he added.
The man on the phone was Urfan Sharif.
By the time the call was over PC George Van Der Wart was knocking on the door of the Sharif family home in Woking.
Warning: This article contains graphic descriptions of physical abuse
In a bedroom at the top of the stairs, he found the body of Sharif's 10-year-old daughter Sara on the bottom bunk, under the covers.
Next to the pillow was a note in Sharif's handwriting in which he said he had beaten and killed his daughter. "I lost it," he wrote.
Post-mortem examinations showed Sara had died from a constellation of injuries and neglect. Her body was covered in bruises, she had a traumatic head injury, human bite marks and multiple broken bones. She had been burned by a domestic iron.
A search of the house and garden revealed - among other things - homemade hoods made of plastic bags and packing tape, as well as a cricket bat with Sara's blood on it. It was a brutal end to the life of a girl remembered by her former class teacher as spirited, sassy, bubbly, and whose happy place was being on the stage.
Sara had loved playing the guitar and dreamed of being on the X Factor. Her favourite colour was pink, and her favourite food was chicken biryani.
Beaten, burned and bitten
An Old Bailey jury has now found Sharif and Sara's stepmother, Beinash Batool, guilty of murder. Her uncle, Faisal Malik, was cleared of her murder, but found guilty of causing or allowing the death of a child.
During the eight-week trial, a picture was painted of a young girl who was let down by those closest to her - the people she should have been able to trust.
Sara was often pictured smiling in photographs, yet at home she was being beaten, burned and bitten.
The trial would show again and again how Surrey County Council's children's services, Surrey Police and her primary school were all aware of concerns about her family, but none was able to offer a lifeline to Sara.
Now, following a legal case brought by BBC News and other media, we can report much more detail of the involvement of the council and the family courts in Sara's life.
A girl who was in foster care twice by the age of three, Sara was surrounded by violence for all of her short life.
Sara Sharif was born on 11 January 2013 at Wexham Park Hospital, in Slough.
Her father had come to the UK from Pakistan to study. He married Sara's mother, Olga Domin - who was Polish and spoke little English - in Woking, in 2009.
Before Sara was even born, the family was known to police and children's services. Records show police were involved four times between 2010 and 2012.
Surrey County Council children's services were in contact from 2010, while hearings at the family court, in Surrey, began just before Sara was born.
This was because of growing concerns of neglect and violence in the family, including against one of Sara's siblings, referred to in court as "Z".
In 2010, "Z" was found alone in a shop aged just three. Later that year Sharif was arrested for assaulting Ms Domin. During the fight he hit "Z", leaving a hand print on the child's back.
In 2011, "Z" told teachers "daddy hit me", and the following year told them "mummy hit me". The child was found with a burn mark and was again discovered alone in public, this time in Woking Town Centre - half a mile from the family home.
Social workers recorded "unexplained injuries" to "Z" and another of Sara's siblings, referred to in court as "U". Before Sara was born there were further allegations of assaults against the children, all were denied.
Then there was an incident in 2013, when "Z" was burned by an iron. When social workers visited their home, they found no light bulbs or bedding in the children's bedrooms.
This meant Sara was under a care order soon after she was born. It gave the local authority legal responsibility for Sara and her two siblings, and social workers made frequent visits to the family home.
She was first taken into foster care for a short period in November 2014, when she was almost two, after "Z" complained of being bitten "very hard" by Ms Domin and "pinched and punched" by Sharif.
Foster carers noticed what looked like cigarette burns on both Sara and "U". Ms Domin and Sharif said they were chicken pox scars.
In 2015, in the middle of the care proceedings hearing, Ms Domin accused Sharif of hitting her and their children, and of controlling and violent behaviour. These allegations were never tested in court, but Sharif agreed to go on a domestic violence course.
False imprisonment
Surrey Police were also aware of previous allegations of violence made against Sharif. Two ex-girlfriends accused him of false imprisonment, in 2007 and in 2009.
After the initial period in foster care in late 2014, Sara who had still not yet turned two, returned home with "U". However, "Z" never went back to the family, instead remaining in care.
The following year Sara was briefly in foster care again, this time when her mother left the family home alleging domestic violence. When her parents formally separated, she started living with her mother, first at a women's refuge. Sharif was only allowed supervised contact.
During her murder trial, the jury heard from one of the social workers involved with Sara's case. In his notes, he recorded that when Sharif went over to Sara during one session, she shouted at him to "go away". He also noted that "U" said Sharif "hit mummy in the mouth and made her bleed."
Before Sharif split up with Sara's mother, he met another woman, Beinash Batool, who was a customer at his taxi business.
For the next few years Sara stayed living with her mother, and things seemed to have calmed down. But in Easter 2019, Sharif said Sara had told him Ms Domin had been violent to her.
Family court documents recorded how Sara said her mother had tried to drown her and burn her with a lighter. She also said her mother had slapped her, pinched her, and pulled her hair. Sharif recorded some of the allegations in a video.
It is not clear if he had encouraged Sara.
For the second time since Sara was born, social services became involved, this time in assessing who she should live with. Despite Sharif's previous history of violence, a social worker recommended that Sara and "U" should move back in with him.
In October 2019, Guildford's family court agreed that Sara should return to live with her father and Batool, her new stepmother.
The judge who made the decision was the same one who had been involved in the hearings from 2013 to 2015, and was aware of all the previous allegations.
Ms Domin, who consented to the arrangement, was to have contact for two hours every Saturday, supervised by Batool. This later broke down, ending Sara's contact with her mother.
By this time Sharif and Batool were living in a small ground floor flat in West Byfleet, and Sara started going to the local St Mary's Primary School.
But it was clear to those on the street that all was not well in the house. One upstairs neighbour, Rebecca Spencer, described them as a "nightmare family". She told the court she heard banging and hysterical screaming.
On one occasion, when it reached "fever pitch", she told jurors she had gone to the address to ask if everything was OK. Batool told her "yes, yes" before she "had the door shut in my face".
Covered in bruises
Another neighbour, Chloe Redwin, told the court she heard frequent smacking and yelling, as well as Batool swearing. She said the only time it was quiet was when they were away on holiday.
The court heard none of the neighbours was worried enough to call the police or social services.
In December 2020, Batool sent her sister Qandeela Saboohi some pictures of Sara with obvious serious bruising to her arms and face.
Over the next two years she sent frequent messages to her sisters about Sharif "beating the crap out of Sara", leaving her "covered in bruises" and unable to walk. She claimed that one night Sharif kept Sara up all night doing sit-ups.
In one message she said she had had to push Sharif out of the way to save Sara. Neither Batool nor her sisters called the police or social services.
Batool told her family Sara was being bullied at school. Her class teacher Helen Simmons remembered that she "didn't keep friends very easily", but said Sara "loved to be on the stage and singing and performing - that was her happy space". Sara also enjoyed being a member of the "Cool Carers' Club" for children who take on more responsibility at home.
Her headteacher, Jacquie Chambers, recalled Sara as an "absolute chatterbox" who dreamed of being on The X Factor.
"We'll always remember her as that really confident, very smiley, full of energy and life little girl. She was a really vibrant, big character. And she would talk the ear off anyone who would listen."
Concerns grew about Sara in June 2022 when she was taken out of school to be home-schooled.
"It was a cause for concern because it fell very much out of the blue," Ms Simmons told the trial. Sara returned for the new academic year in September.
It was around this time that Sara started wearing a hijab. In a home video in July 2022, which was shown to the jury, Sharif was seen slapping Sara four times on her cheeks.
Despite the hijab covering much of her head, by March 2023 Ms Simmons was seeing injuries on Sara's face. First, on 10 March, she saw a bruise on the underside of her chin and one on her cheek.
"They didn't look like fresh bruises," she said. Sara said she had fallen over on some roller-skates, but her account seemed inconsistent. She told one school friend she had fallen off her bike.
The school was worried enough that they referred the incident to social services. For the third time, Surrey County Council's children services became involved in Sara's case. After a six-day investigation, the council told the school no further action was being taken, but asked the school to "monitor" the situation. This was despite the council knowing the long history of allegations of violence in the family, and the involvement of the police as far back as 2010.
The school also recorded that Batool was seen using very explicit and abusive swearwords in Punjabi during the school drop-off, the court heard.
On 28 March, Sara came to school with another bruise. Batool told Ms Simmons the injury had been caused by a pen. All this was again meticulously recorded by St Mary's.
The following month the family finally moved out of the tiny two-bedroom council flat with a shared garden in West Byfleet, to a bigger semi-detached house in Woking, also owned by Surrey County Council. Faisal Malik, Sara's uncle, had been living with the family for about four months by this point, and he also moved into the new house.
From this moment Sara never went back to school. Sharif wrote a cursory email to St Mary's saying that his daughter was being home-schooled again.
Any chance of the school monitoring Sara was now over.
'He beat her up like crazy'
Judy Lozeron lived next door to the Sharifs in Woking.
She often watched Sara in the garden, quietly looking after the baby of the family while the other children played.
"She seemed to be very attached to the baby," she said.
But she never spotted any signs of injury, and never heard any shouting or arguing in the house next door. The only thing she noticed was Sara's demeanour.
"I didn't see her smile, and I think that is strange, but there was no reason for us to suspect anything else."
On 25 May, another message about Sara from Batool to her sister read: "He beat her up like crazy. Her oxygen level dropped really low, she's finding it hard to stay awake. She's breathing really, really rapidly."
As the summer wore on, largely out of earshot of the neighbours, the torture of Sara accelerated. In the last few weeks of her life she was bitten, branded on her bottom with an iron, and hooded with plastic bags held in place by packing tape.
Sharif admitted hitting her with a cricket bat and beating her with a white metal pole that was part of a high chair. He also hit her over her head with a mobile phone. But the bites marks on her body didn't match Sharif's dental impressions, the court was told. He denied burning Sara with an iron.
Sara had started vomiting and was wearing a nappy because she was soiling herself. In those last few weeks she sustained at least 25 broken bones and a traumatic brain injury.
At no point was she ever taken to hospital.
One afternoon in early August, Fiona Mellon, whose back garden overlooked the Sharifs', heard a piercing scream that suddenly cut short.
On Sunday 6 August 2023, Sara was filmed at home by Batool dancing in front of the TV, seemingly OK. Later that day her stepmother's lawyer said her father beat her again.
On Tuesday 8 August, Sara's body could take no more and she started to visibly deteriorate. Sharif decided she was pretending and hit her again on her stomach with the metal pole.
Later that night "U" texted a friend:
"Hello"
"Urgent"
"My sister just passed away"
When Sara died, it was the end of a life in which violence had become completely normalised, the prosecution told the trial.
Social services had been intermittently involved with the family for 13 years; her father had been arrested at least three times for violence against adults; and her school had raised concerns about bruising. It leaves questions about whether her death could have been avoided.
One key question is whether there should be a better way of monitoring pupils about whom there are concerns when they are taken out of school.
Annie Hudson, who chairs the Child Safeguarding Practice Review Panel for England, said vulnerable children can be more at risk when pulled out of school.
"They are out of sight, they don't have the protective care of being in school, and all that brings," she added.
In the immediate aftermath of Sara's death, Surrey County Council commissioned a rapid review of its involvement with her.
This led to a more detailed local child safeguarding review, which is now looking at the roles of Surrey Police, St Mary's Primary School, the NHS and Surrey County Council.
It will investigate the on-and-off engagement with Sara by children's services, which started before she was born.
The review will look at the six-day investigation into the bruising seen by Sara's class teacher five months before she died. That investigation did not result in any action by the county council against the parents, despite their knowledge of the Sharif's violent history, just a suggestion the school monitor Sara.
But the teachers were unable to do that once Sara was taken out of school.
Rachael Wardell, executive director for children, families and lifelong learning at Surrey County Council, said: "We are resolute in our commitment to protecting children, and we are determined to play a full and active part in the forthcoming review alongside partner agencies, to thoroughly understand the wider circumstances surrounding Sara's tragic death."
She said the complete picture would only be clear when the independent safeguarding review concludes.
"Sara's death is incredibly distressing and we share in the profound horror at the terrible details that have emerged during the trial. We cannot begin to comprehend the suffering that poor Sara endured."
A polka-dot painted bench now stands in the playground of Sara's old school. It has a plaque on it which reads: Sara's buddy bench.
Ms Chambers, the headteacher, said Sara was "such a special little girl". "It's hard to put into words actually," she added. "I don't think I've ever known such sadness."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgedlr7qg1o
…no matter what the timeline of events of abuse …nothing prevented Sara’s torture and suffering and nothing prevented her death…
Cherie
20-12-2024, 06:47 AM
A bid to name judges involved in Sara Sharif’s family court proceedings before she was murdered by her father and stepmother will reach the Court of Appeal in January.
Following the convictions of Urfan Sharif and Beinash Batool, details from previous family court proceedings could be published related to the 10-year-old’s care before her death.
This included that Surrey County Council repeatedly raised “significant concerns” that Sara was likely to suffer physical and emotional abuse at the hands of her parents, amid allegations that her father was physically abusing her and her siblings.
Despite three sets of family court proceedings, the allegations were never tested in court, with Sara repeatedly returning to her parents’ care before finally being placed with her father and stepmother, Beinash Batool, at their home in Woking, Surrey, in 2019, where she was murdered in 2023.
ES
Judge needs to be named, no more hiding for people who should not be in postions of power when they are so bad at their jobs
arista
21-12-2024, 10:36 PM
apparently the Dad was less of a risk because he remarried....Saras natural Mum is Polish ....you could not make it up
Amazing
Livia
22-12-2024, 12:09 PM
The mother of Sara should be spayed like a dog.
arista
03-01-2025, 01:35 AM
BBC News Text:
[The Sun leads with reports that the
father of Sara Sharif has been attacked
in prison where he is serving
a life sentence for the murder
of the 10-year-old.
The paper says two inmates "ambushed"
Urfan Sharif in his cell and slashed his throat.
The Prison Service says police are
investigating an assault on a prisoner
at HMP Belmarsh on New Year's Day but
did not confirm any identities.]
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0c0db04d-9d58-455f-8373-a64a0fb70375.jpeg
I can fully understand
the anger in the prison
I assume they will now move him
to a protected zone cell.
Oh dear , how sad , never mind
Edit - Maya looks amazing
Cherie
03-01-2025, 08:38 AM
Prisoners hand out their own justice, I hope he was terrified
if they didn't succeed this time, they will next time
arista
03-01-2025, 01:09 PM
if they didn't succeed this time, they will next time
But he will move to a secure section
But he will move to a secure section
eventually someone will get to him
if they didn't succeed this time, they will next time
…so sustained and continual living in fear of vicious andviolent attacks…?…that really was the life that Sara lived also…
Judge who gave Sara Sharif back to abusive father was criticised over previous conduct…
The judge who gave Sara Sharif back to her violent and abusive father was previously accused of serious failings in her conduct, it can now be revealed.
Judge Alison Raeside can now be named for the first time following an application by the press to overturn a gag order put in place by a fellow Family Court judge.
In an unprecedented decision, Mr Justice Williams tried to ban the media from naming Judge Raeside and two others involved in decisions about the care of Sara over fears they would be subjected to a “social media pile on”.
Sara was placed in the care of her father despite allegations that he had abused a number of women, threatened one with a knife and regularly beat his children.
The ruling was successfully challenged by the press, including The Telegraph, who argued that granting anonymity to judges would “raise public suspicion” of the justice system.
The order was lifted at 10am on Friday, allowing the identities of Judge Raeside and two others who oversaw brief hearings involving Sara – Judges Sally Williams and Peter Nathan – to be revealed.
It can also now be reported that Judge Raeside was criticised by a High Court judge in 2018 for conducting a “fundamentally flawed hearing”.
She was accused by a child’s mother of behaving in an “unfair” manner that “lacked transparency and was procedurally irregular”.
The High Court heard that she had conducted in depth conversations with a youth charity about a child, who Judge Raeside ultimately ruled should live with his father, that were not communicated to the parents.
Giving his ruling, Mr Justice Newton said these were “serious charges” despite Judge Raeside having been acting in the best interest of the child.
“It is, I regret to say, a matter which has caused me very considerable anxiety,” he said.
He said her conduct gave rise to a “real issue about transparency and fairness”, and allowed the mother of the child to appeal Judge Raeside’s residency decision.
Sara, 10, was murdered at her home in Woking, Surrey, on Aug 10 2023, after she had suffered years of “inconceivable cruelty”, primarily at the hands of her father.
Urfan Sharif, 43, and Beinash Batool, 30, Sara’s stepmother, were sentenced to life in prison for her killing at the Old Bailey in December.
Before Sara was killed, the pair convinced Judge Raeside that they posed no danger to the schoolgirl.
At a private Family Court hearing in Guildford in 2019, Judge Raeside agreed with a report submitted by an inexperienced social worker that Sharif was not a threat to his daughter and awarded him shared residency.
The decision was in spite of her having presided over two previous sets of care proceedings from 2013 to 2015, in which a lengthy history of domestic abuse allegations against Sharif were laid bare.
Batool and Sharif were deemed by the social worker to be capable of looking after Sara without “physically chastising” her.
Surrey county council’s social services team said “the intention would be that Surrey county council [SCC] children’s services do not have any further involvement”.
Judge Raeside described the SCC document as a “very thorough report” and “a very good piece of work” before going on to adopt its recommendations.
Sara had more than 71 injuries when she was discovered at her home including fractures, burns and bite marks and extensive bruising. There was evidence that the schoolgirl had repeatedly been restrained with packing tape and beaten with a metal pole and cricket bat.
Surrey county council first made contact with Olga Domin, Sara’s mother, in 2010 – more than two years before Sara was born – after having received “referrals indicative of neglect” relating to her two older siblings, who are known only as Z and U.
After Z was found with an arm injury consistent with an adult bite mark, Sara and her two siblings were taken into police protection in November 2014, and Ms Domin was arrested and charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm. She later accepted a caution.
The council applied for the children to be taken into emergency care, telling a Family Court that it had “significant concerns” about them returning to Sharif.
Judge Nathan put Sara under an out-of-hours protection order and she was put in foster care temporarily.
The court was told Sara was “observed to stand facing a wall” by carers and was “very small and doesn’t eat a lot”.
Yet three days later Judge Raeside chose not to extend the order, allowing Sara to return home to Sharif who said he would not let Ms Domin come into the home.
The following July, Sara went back into foster care after Judge Williams raised concerns that Sharif was meeting with Ms Domin, potentially putting the child in danger.
However, in August Judge Raeside returned her to her mother’s care.
Despite concerns, Sara was moved to her mother’s sole care under supervision in November 2015, while still having contact with her father, which remained the case until 2019.
In a now deleted episode of the Women Who Work podcast – of which the Telegraph has obtained a recording – Judge Raeside said that “you don’t get any feedback as a judge”, which is “very, very odd”.
She said: “I’ve never had an appraisal. Imagine that. You don’t get any feedback. No-one tells you if you are any good.”
She added that the highlight of her job was finding out children involved in her proceedings “were doing well and happy” years later.
Judge Raeside was called to the Bar in 1982 and began practising civil law in London. She was the designated family judge for Surrey from 2019 until 2024 and she continues to sit on family cases in the county.
In 2019, a father who sent a series of threatening messages to Judge Raeside during a nine-month online stalking campaign was jailed for one year.
Nyron Warmington, 42, targeted Judge Raeside after she barred him from contacting his daughters, calling her “odious” and posting messages that referred to her home address and children.
He was also given a five-year restraining order not to contact the judge or make social media posts about her.
Judge Raeside said the ordeal had been the worst experience of her career.
She told the podcast: “That was horrid because it’s one thing my job being having people threaten me but when it affects your kids it’s not nice at all. That was a low.”
Judge Williams and Judge Nathan – both now retired – oversaw emergency court hearings where Sara and her siblings had to be placed into foster care.
Judge Nathan retired as a circuit judge in December 2019 after a 46-year career.
In 2013, Judge Williams ruled on a Family Court case in which a mother almost had a child permanently removed from her care after a laboratory mistakenly provided incorrect evidence that she had been heavily drinking.
If the error by staff at Trimega Laboratories had not been discovered, it is probable that the child would have been given up for adoption on account of past behaviour, Judge Williams said.
She refused to agree with the company’s request not to make the judgment public, saying publication was “in the public interest”.
“The family courts should be as open and transparent as possible to improve public confidence and understanding,” she said.
Sir Geoffrey Vos in the Court of Appeal said last week that Mr Justice Williams – granting the anonymity order – had got “carried away” and “undoubtedly behaved unfairly”.
He noted in his decision that even judges who preside over terror trials and those of organised criminals gangs are not granted anonymity.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/judge-gave-sara-sharif-back-100148839.html
Cherie
31-01-2025, 08:09 PM
Her words as she handed Sarah over to her abusive father and step mother is
We hope for the best....not exactly a ringing endorsement so she must have had doubts
the judge that reviewed it basically said that the decisions made were in line with normal process. The problem is that changing the process may have a bigger impact on innocent families. There will always be edge cases that the process just can't handle and I think this case fell into that category
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