The new Show White film is gaining lots of publicity

[Swan]

and it's all bad!

I don't know too much about it all, even the original i can't really remember, but i've been getting various shorts and videos popping up in my youtube feed recently, and it seems like the live action movie (comes out March next year) is trying to distance itself from the original story as much as possible.

I've never heard of the actress playing Snow White, but it's like she really, really hates the original, which doesn't make too much sense???

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I looked at the trailers, the dislike to like ratio is about 80% dislike to 20% like. Im not so much bothered about the film, the animated version, or this new one, but im more interested in how it's being promoted and marketed, seems like it could be another big flop from a massive US company.

[arista]

(comes out March next year)

That could change
Due to Strikes out there

[Swan]

(comes out March next year)

That could change
Due to Strikes out there

Possibly, im not sure of the process now tbh.

Oh and they cast only one dwarf, the rest of the "dwarfs" are fully grown men?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just a dreadful woke take on a classic and she comes across as a hideous little entitled hag

[DemolitionRed]

I wouldn't waste your money. Go and see "Sound of Freedom" the film all governments around the globe have been tying (unsuccessfully) to stop.

[Livia]

Wasn't she called Snow White because her skin was white as snow?

Stick to the story or make something else.

[Nicky91]

that actress was dropped from that role so good move from Disney doing that


what a horrible attitude that girl has :idc:


original snow white film too scary for her liking, like how :umm2:

[Swan]

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I was wrong about the like/dislike ratio. 3.4k likes - 115K dislikes. This is shaping up to be a massive box office bomb. Make a film about whatever you like, but it seems they're so anti the original version, why even call it Snow White? It doesn't have the Dwarfs, and it's nothing like the original, story wise anyway.

[Livia]

I don't understand why they feel the need to put black actors in roles from old European fairy tales. I understand the Little Mermaid has moved from Denmark and is now a black Caribbean character. It's nonsense.

[Oliver_W]

There are plenty of Snow White films which take a different direction with the story, and they don't all feature dwarfs. Having a gobby entitled privileged little madam in the role won't make this film different to the other alternative takes.

[Nicky91]

I don't understand why they feel the need to put black actors in roles from old European fairy tales. I understand the Little Mermaid has moved from Denmark and is now a black Caribbean character. It's nonsense.

Halle is a fine casting for Ariel


also makes sense to go for this authentic caribbean character approach for Little Mermaid, tbh one of the songs Under the Sea already gave me a tropical vibe

Javier Bardem plays Ariel's father King Triton btw, Melissa McCarthy is a good casting for Ursula, that lady literally oozes comedy

[Oliver_W]

Halle is a fine casting for Ariel


also makes sense to go for this authentic caribbean character approach for Little Mermaid, tbh one of the songs Under the Sea already gave me a tropical vibe

Javier Bardem plays Ariel's father King Triton btw, Melissa McCarthy is a good casting for Ursula, that lady literally oozes comedy

Sebastian was shyte, Under The Sea sounded like crap.

[Swan]

There are plenty of Snow White films which take a different direction with the story, and they don't all feature dwarfs. Having a gobby entitled privileged little madam in the role won't make this film different to the other alternative takes.

That's fine, but isn't it strange that the actress who's playing Snow White is trashing the original as much as she can, in the promotion of the live action mainstream remake? :shrug:

I watched an interview with a dwarf actor Dylan Postl (played Hornswoggle in WWE for 10 years) and he was saying they'll never get main action roles as dwarfs, but in a film like Snow White it is costing dwarf actors jobs, because it's not just the actors, it's the stunt people too. It's ironic in the risk of trying not to "offend" they're offending and taking money off the people they're trying not to offend?

[arista]

Sure Hollywood
is cutting corners.

The Film Maker reserves the right.


They are happy to use effects
to get Men reduced in size

[Nicky91]

Miss Zegler is just a dumb drama queen, and with that attitude may i hope she'll never get asked for anything else, because who wants to work with someone with that horrible mindset


we need a bigger casting for the role of Snow anyway, because the evil queen already has a A-Lister casting in Gal Gadot, excellent next role for Gal, whom we basically know more from action films and from wonder woman, she is a great actress, i also liked her role in the Poirot remake Death on the Nile

[Oliver_W]

That's fine, but isn't it strange that the actress who's playing Snow White is trashing the original as much as she can, in the promotion of the live action mainstream remake? :shrug:

Sure, it's not the "best look" to have the main actor trashing the thing on which their film is based. But that means little when it comes to the product itself.

Hollywood has always been full of stuck-up privileged pampered morons, but in this age of social media, their true selves are more visible. And as long as it doesn't impact their work, who cares?

I'm sure a lot of all of our favourite older (than Zegler) actors wouldn't be perceived in the best light, if their every thought was put out there.

[Swan]

Sure, it's not the "best look" to have the main actor trashing the thing on which their film is based. But that means little when it comes to the product itself.

Hollywood has always been full of stuck-up privileged pampered morons, but in this age of social media, their true selves are more visible. And as long as it doesn't impact their work, who cares?

I'm sure a lot of all of our favourite older (than Zegler) actors wouldn't be perceived in the best light, if their every thought was put out there.

I just find it very strange is all. Im not gonna pretend i care about the film, it's not aimed at my demographic anyway, im more interested in how Disney handle the backlash.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1691112136045740032?s=20

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1691112136045740032?s=20

that kiss has been done before already so if they want to shine with a newer version, they need to come up with something more authentic


in both the original film, and also in the series Once Upon a Time


and now that Zegler bitch is out of the picture, maybe we do need a darker version to this, a more alternative reality in which the Evil Queen has her ''happy ending'' with her own Prince as her true love

[Livia]

They should stick to the story. Or... Write a new story.

[Oliver_W]

and now that Zegler bitch is out of the picture,

She hasn't been fired.

And nor should she be. Acting like a twit on social media shouldn't cost her her job.


maybe we do need a darker version to this
I thought people's problem was that Zegler was too dark :hehe:

[Glenn.]

Who cares what people think?

They’re the same people who threw a hissy fit over a fictional mermaid being played by a black girl.

People with opinions like that aren’t worth anyone’s time.

[Mystic Mock]

Possibly, im not sure of the process now tbh.

Oh and they cast only one dwarf, the rest of the "dwarfs" are fully grown men?!

This I actually found to be really awful on a few fronts.

1. Stopping small Actors from getting work.

2. It destroys a portion of the title of the story.

3. The idea of the "Bandits" that I've heard the remake is going for sounds more like a bunch of Robin Hood's than the meant to be comedic Dwarves.

And obviously there is the Snow White raceswapping stuff, which again for this particular Movie hurts the narrative of the story.

Yesterday I was having a debate with my Brother about franchises dramatically changing expectations and how I personally never support drastic changes, don't get me wrong I get that it's a remake so it therefore has more room for experimentation, but it should never be at the expense of the core narrative.

Because I say this as well because even though I have never watched the Animated Snow White Movie myself, I know that it's not meant to be whatever this remake is trying to be.

And look I get that they do have to modernize it from the 1930's Animated Movie, but like any changes it should be complimentary to the series, not a show destroyer.

Snow White at it's heart is meant to be a Kids Fairy Tale story with some Comedy from the Dwarves thrown in (none of this height diverse cringe that Disney tried to spout for those roles) and a bit of Romance/true love wins out messaging.

Tbf to Disney and Snow White, they're not the only ones doing drastic changes to their works, just look at the Video Game industry with Uncharted 4, Resident Evil & Yakuza 7, all of these series started out very different to how their finishing off.

[Mystic Mock]

I wouldn't waste your money. Go and see "Sound of Freedom" the film all governments around the globe have been tying (unsuccessfully) to stop.

Isn't that also a very Political Film though?

[Mystic Mock]

There are plenty of Snow White films which take a different direction with the story, and they don't all feature dwarfs. Having a gobby entitled privileged little madam in the role won't make this film different to the other alternative takes.

Those Films tbf weren't selling themselves as a remake to the Animated Movie, made by Disney itself.

[Mystic Mock]

Who cares what people think?

They’re the same people who threw a hissy fit over a fictional mermaid being played by a black girl.

People with opinions like that aren’t worth anyone’s time.

Personally I get why people don't support raceswapping in the series they enjoy.

I mean did you see the white kid playing Aang in The Last Airbender's Live Action Movie.:umm2:

Being controversial here, but a character playing Aang in my view should always have a Far East Asian appearance, but I guess that's just me.

So in fairness I do have sympathy with The Little Mermaid fans.

Having said that though Lance Reddick did look interesting as Albert Wesker in the Resident Evil series, so raceswapping isn't automatically wrong imo.

[user104658]

I've seen a lot of these clips and, to be fair to the young actor, I don't think this is entirely her fault. I think the press teams at Disney have given a sort of broad instruction to the cast to distance from the original and emphasise that this is a more modern version - and unfortunately she (being only 22 and a "young seeming" 22) has misunderstood the assignment somewhat and comes across as mocking/bitter about the original. It's OK to update an intellectual property but you have to do it with respect for the original version ... or fans are just not going to respond well. But yeah... I think she thinks she's doing what she was told to do, and hasn't given it very much thought. And I think the poor girl will be going under the bus with it instead of the people who deserve to (the soulless Disney cash-grab execs).

As for the film itself ... well. None of the Disney live action remakes are good. They are unilaterally worse than the original versions. Not in a "well it's just different" sense - just plain ol' objectively worse. Plasticky, factory line poor film making for a quick $$$.

I can appreciate that the same can by and large be said for other Disney properties like the MCU - but those are at least carried by some good action sequences and sellf-referential humour. The live action Disney has none of that.

[user104658]

Having said that though Lance Reddick did look interesting as Albert Wesker in the Resident Evil series, so raceswapping isn't automatically wrong imo.

IIRC (though I didn't watch the whole thing, it was pretty bad?) they didn't actually race-swap Wesker... they made it clear that there are actually "multiple Weskers", so the OG "Johnny Bravo" Wesker still exists (existed? Pretty sure he's dead in Resi canon after 5... though that means little in that franchise I guess). Reddick was playing a literally different Wesker.

[Nicky91]

I've seen a lot of these clips and, to be fair to the young actor, I don't think this is entirely her fault. I think the press teams at Disney have given a sort of broad instruction to the cast to distance from the original and emphasise that this is a more modern version - and unfortunately she (being only 22 and a "young seeming" 22) has misunderstood the assignment somewhat and comes across as mocking/bitter about the original. It's OK to update an intellectual property but you have to do it with respect for the original version ... or fans are just not going to respond well. But yeah... I think she thinks she's doing what she was told to do, and hasn't given it very much thought. And I think the poor girl will be going under the bus with it instead of the people who deserve to (the soulless Disney cash-grab execs).

As for the film itself ... well. None of the Disney live action remakes are good. They are unilaterally worse than the original versions. Not in a "well it's just different" sense - just plain ol' objectively worse. Plasticky, factory line poor film making for a quick $$$.

I can appreciate that the same can by and large be said for other Disney properties like the MCU - but those are at least carried by some good action sequences and sellf-referential humour. The live action Disney has none of that.

''poor girl''

it were her own words, how she hated the original Snow White, i mean this girl isn't held at gunpoint when she was approached for this particular role, so she could've also said no, you know



this ''poor girl'' also recently was nasty against Jeremy Renner (and we all know Jeremy is a really nice guy) and one of those who cancelled Gina Carano on The Mandalorian


she's an absolute disgrace to her generation, and i'm sure many other teens would've been in awe of getting to play such an iconic disney character


i think a modern version of snow white can work, but then come up with an entire original story, completely in the modern times, subtly based on the snow white story but just couple of new things such as new character names, a actor with dwarfism to represent one of the iconic ''dwarfs'' also in a more authentic role


same how we have plenty of Cinderella versions out there (both classic and modern)

[user104658]

''poor girl''

it were her own words, how she hated the original Snow White, i mean this girl isn't held at gunpoint when she was approached for this particular role, so she could've also said no, you know



this ''poor girl'' also recently was nasty against Jeremy Renner (and we all know Jeremy is a really nice guy) and one of those who cancelled Gina Carano on The Mandalorian


she's an absolute disgrace to her generation, and i'm sure many other teens would've been in awe of getting to play such an iconic disney character


i think a modern version of snow white can work, but then come up with an entire original story, completely in the modern times, subtly based on the snow white story but just couple of new things such as new character names, a actor with dwarfism to represent one of the iconic ''dwarfs'' also in a more authentic role


same how we have plenty of Cinderella versions out there (both classic and modern)

She's only 22 Nicky. Forgive her for what she has done... SHE'S YOOOOUNG SHE'S YOOoouuung she's young!

[Nicky91]

i might end up watching this anyway


same with Little Mermaid, when its on Disney



but the dwarfs were my fave bit of the classic, especially the song ''Heigh Ho'' such a tune

[user104658]

i might end up watching this anyway


same with Little Mermaid, when its on Disney



but the dwarfs were my fave bit of the classic, especially the song ''Heigh Ho'' such a tune

Yes I agree that only one of the dwarves being a dwarf is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard... literally no one asked for this. Including people with dwarfism.

[Swan]

Yes I agree that only one of the dwarves being a dwarf is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard... literally no one asked for this. Including people with dwarfism.

Yeah, i watched an interview with a dwarf actor and he said he's pissed off, especially considering how limited their roles are.

[user104658]

Yeah, i watched an interview with a dwarf actor and he said he's pissed off, especially considering how limited their roles are.

I think it's just madness really... even if you consider it to be a disability (which many don't) the logic doesn't stack up. Imagine you were making a movie about, let's say, a wheelchair basketball team... ... ... casting one person who is genuinely disabled ... and beyond that INSISTING on only casting actors without disabilities. In the name of... er... I don't know. I don't even know what. Not being discriminatory, apparently??

[user104658]

"We're making a dramatised movie version of Queer Eye For The Straight Guy... but only one of the Queer Eye guys will be a gay man. He will be accompanied by a straight man, a straight woman, and a cat."

[bots]

what disney are doing is trying to shoe horn a new movie into an old concept to try and maximize the profit from existing successful intellectual property. Its a failure. I'm sure they always knew it would be a failure, but revenue comes from many sources not just the new movie and it may have improved the revenue of all the associated original snow white crap

[Swan]

I think it's just madness really... even if you consider it to be a disability (which many don't) the logic doesn't stack up. Imagine you were making a movie about, let's say, a wheelchair basketball team... ... ... casting one person who is genuinely disabled ... and beyond that INSISTING on only casting actors without disabilities. In the name of... er... I don't know. I don't even know what. Not being discriminatory, apparently??

There's an interesting interview with ex WWE wrestler Hornswoggle/Dylan Postl on Piers Morgan a month or so back. I don't like Morgan, but the interview is pretty good, and Dylan puts his points across well.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine remaking the series ROOTS using the cast of Made in Chelsea

there would be uproar

[Livia]

Who cares what people think?

They’re the same people who threw a hissy fit over a fictional mermaid being played by a black girl.

People with opinions like that aren’t worth anyone’s time.


A fictional Danish Mermaid in a traditional Danish fairy tale. Sounds like cultural appropriation... or it would if it was a white girl in an African tale.

As for as the rest of your post, bite me.

[Glenn.]

A fictional Danish Mermaid in a traditional Danish fairy tale. Sounds like cultural appropriation... or it would if it was a white girl in an African tale.

As for as the rest of your post, bite me.

Such a silly, ignorant, racist woman.

Shame on you

[Oliver_W]

None of the Disney live action remakes are good. They are unilaterally worse than the original versions. Not in a "well it's just different" sense - just plain ol' objectively worse. Plasticky, factory line poor film making for a quick $$$.

Pete's Dragon was pretty good.

[Mystic Mock]

IIRC (though I didn't watch the whole thing, it was pretty bad?) they didn't actually race-swap Wesker... they made it clear that there are actually "multiple Weskers", so the OG "Johnny Bravo" Wesker still exists (existed? Pretty sure he's dead in Resi canon after 5... though that means little in that franchise I guess). Reddick was playing a literally different Wesker.

I haven't watched the Show yet, but tbh I can live with that explanation.

Plus I did always like Reddick's performances in other works, so personally I'm open to the idea of him being Wesker.

[Oliver_W]

As far as I recall, he was meant to be The Wesker. The original Wesker's death matched that from the games etc.

(He being the basis for the clones)