Luis Rubiales resigns

[bots]

Luis Rubiales has refused to step down as president of the Spanish football federation following his behaviour at the Women's World Cup final on Sunday.

Rubiales, 46, kissed forward Jenni Hermoso on the lips after Spain's 1-0 victory over England.

He had earlier grabbed his crotch as he celebrated at the final whistle.

"I will not resign, I will not resign," he told an extraordinary general assembly called by the federation. "A social assassination is taking place."

Rubiales apologised for the kiss on Monday before Fifa, world football's governing body, opened disciplinary proceedings against him on Thursday.

On Friday he apologised for grabbing his crotch while celebrating in the VIP area in Stadium Australia, with Queen Letizia of Spain and her 16-year-old daughter standing nearby.

Widespread reports in Spain suggested Rubiales would announce his resignation on Friday - but instead he vowed to "fight until the end".

"I'm ready to be vilified to defend my ideals," he added. "I don't deserve this manhunt I have been suffering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66609945

[Swan]

I was reading about this, over excited maybe? It was still a foolish thing to do.

[bots]

the kiss was pretty bad, but grabbing his crotch?

[Swan]

Yeah that was pretty strange behaviour from an official in his position.

[Crimson Dynamo]

odd behavior

the kiss made the lady feel violated

[Swan]

Imagine Willy giving Mazza a smooch on the lips (had we won/if he was there :joker: ).

[bots]

the way things are going no men or woman will play for the international team again until he goes

[Swan]

Oh he's doomed, no getting away with this. He'll either be forced to resign or get the sack.

[Cherie]

He wouldn't have kissed a man on the lips, he should resign, absolute moron

[arista]

He wouldn't have kissed a man on the lips, he should resign, absolute moron


He says it was not Sexual

[Crimson Dynamo]

He says it was not Sexual

DN--jMRVlOc

[arista]

Yes LT
he thinks he is MJ

[Beso]

He says it was not Sexual

The dirty pig had his arms round her pulling her in close.

[arista]

The dirty pig had his arms round her pulling her in close.

Yes, that upset the Lady Footballer

[UserSince2005]

He’s not leaving because he wants his money.

Everyone knows these women are all lesbian and would never be interested, he wasn’t trying anything, he was just wrapped up in the moment.

[arista]

He’s not leaving because he wants his money.

Everyone knows these women are all lesbian and would never be interested, he wasn’t trying anything, he was just wrapped up in the moment.


Not all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not all.

i think most of them are?

[arista]

The Spanish Government
is now making plans to remove him.


All Media.

[arista]

Also,
the Spanish Team is now refusing to play
until he is removed

SkyNewsHD Live

[Crimson Dynamo]

good for the ladies the guy is a predator

[Cherie]

Also,
the Spanish Team is now refusing to play
until he is removed

SkyNewsHD Live

stiched up like a kipper by his dick :laugh:

[arista]

stiched up like a kipper by his dick :laugh:


Yes,
looks like he must Resign tonight

[Beso]

Good...

Was he as high as Maradona?

[bots]

Jenni Hermoso has confirmed she did not consent to be kissed by Spanish football federation president Luis Rubiales - as 56 Spain players confirm they will not play for the national team until he is removed from his post.

Rubiales has refused to resign after kissing forward Hermoso following Spain's Women's World Cup final win over England.

The Spanish government started legal proceedings seeking to suspend the 46-year-old, while Fifa has also launched disciplinary proceedings.

[arista]

Tick Tock

[Beso]

Maybe a late VAR decision. But one worth waiting for.

[rusticgal]

Sack him…pig headed twat.

[bots]

a statement released by players' union Futpro included quotes from Hermoso, which read: "I want to clarify, that at no time did I consent to the kiss. I don't tolerate that my word is questioned, much less that words are invented that I haven't said."

:skull:

[GiRTh]

Horrible incident. Sack him

[Mystic Mock]

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at first.

However with the player saying that she wasn't comfortable with the kiss, it makes it hard to justify keeping him in his position imo.

And personally I do find the crotch incident bizarre.

[bots]

The Spanish football federation says it will take legal action over Jenni Hermoso's comments about its president Luis Rubiales.

Rubiales has refused to resign after kissing forward Hermoso on the lips following Spain's Women's World Cup final win over England in Sydney.

Hermoso said on Friday she did not consent, but the federation has questioned her version of events.

"The evidence is conclusive," it said. "Mr President has not lied."

In a statement by players' union Futpro, which is representing Hermoso, she is quoted as saying "in no case did I seek to raise (lift) the president" while they embraced on the podium.

The Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) said: "The RFEF and Mr President will demonstrate each of the lies that are spread either by someone on behalf of the player or, if applicable, by the player herself.

"The RFEF and the President, given the seriousness of the content of the press release from the Futpro union, will initiate the corresponding legal actions."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66626410

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I think the issues are a lot bigger than 1 guy

[arista]

Anti Feminists Vs every one else

[Oliver_W]

i think most of them are?

Even if the woman he kissed were straight, wouldn't make it okay.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Even if the woman he kissed were straight, wouldn't make it okay.

absolutely not it makes no odds

[Oliver_W]

And personally I do find the crotch incident bizarre.

In isolation I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he needed a quick re-arrange.

But with everything else? Nah.

[Zizu]

I know nothing about this incident.. did he kiss them all on the lips or just one girl ?

Why did he choose her ??


Has he got a smarmy ( Trump-like reputation) ?


Why are the Spanish ladies on dispute with the Spanish authorities ?


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[Zizu]

Hopefully photoshopped

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230826/960497954b2830bc2476feb8035ee0f7.jpg


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[arista]

He has now been Suspended for 90 days


While they investigate the problem.

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[Swan]

Hopefully photoshopped

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230826/960497954b2830bc2476feb8035ee0f7.jpg


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It's not photoshopped.

[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

It's not photoshopped.


Then he’s clearly a lech


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[Swan]

Then he’s clearly a lech


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And all of this has completely overshadowed the Spain victory, and the tournament as a whole.

[arista]

He has now been Suspended for 90 days


While they investigate the problem.

SkyNewsHD Live


This is a Good start
on sorting the git out

https://news.sky.com/story/luis-rubiales-fifa-suspends-embattled-spanish-football-chief-amid-world-cup-kiss-row-12947907

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/itvracing/status/1695116548711596330?s=20

[bots]

he doesn't look impressed either

[Nicky91]

Rubiales himself also played in Scotland btw, with Hamilton Academical

:flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

he doesn't look impressed either

is there a difference?

[Zizu]

he doesn't look impressed either


He had a big smile didn’t he ?

Maybe mildly surprised..


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[bots]

the womens team coaching staff have resigned now

[Crimson Dynamo]

the womens team coaching staff have resigned now

there must be more to this?

[bots]

it's the way the guy has subsequently behaved

[arista]

Spanish Mutiny

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d03550d8-6662-4d6e-91de-e67c111a741f.png

[rusticgal]

And all of this has completely overshadowed the Spain victory, and the tournament as a whole.



Sadly it has….

[Sticks]

There is a photo of that player lifting Luis Rubiales into the air while they kissed, hardly non consensual to me. You could see his feet waving in the air while they embraced.

She was enjoying it as she held him aloft

Luckily the Spanish Football Federation are backing him to the hilt and that female football player and her cronies and they are going to sue the little lying money grabbers.

Anyone with a quarter of a brain can see that Luis Rubiales is innocent and he will be victorious in the end.

[Sticks]

For reference
From BBC website (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66626410)

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/103A6/production/_130907466_rfef.jpg

Can't you see Hermoso nose growing the more she says how she didn't like it, and did you spot the Pa-so signs in her eyes?

[Mystic Mock]

In isolation I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he needed a quick re-arrange.

But with everything else? Nah.

You're probably right tbf.

It's like you've said, it's when it's added on top of other things is where it doesn't look good for him.

[Oliver_W]

For reference
From BBC website (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66626410)

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/103A6/production/_130907466_rfef.jpg

Can't you see Hermoso nose growing the more she says how she didn't like it, and did you spot the Pa-so signs in her eyes?

Can you see the difference between a celebratory hug, and an unasked for kiss on the lips?

[Nicky91]

For reference
From BBC website (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66626410)

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/103A6/production/_130907466_rfef.jpg

Can't you see Hermoso nose growing the more she says how she didn't like it, and did you spot the Pa-so signs in her eyes?

yes

exactly

all for the media attention



this was just a celebratory hug/kiss, they do the same at victory ceremonies of Olympic Games, and sometimes too at Formula 1 when there are female trophy presenters


''without consent'' what bull**** that Hermoso said :facepalm:


and FIFA buying into this crap and suspending him for 90 days :idc:

[Beso]

I remeber a few weeks ago the lady presenting the trophy kissed the cox of the winning team and absolutely nothing was said about that.:fist:

[Zizu]

Maybe it’s just a case of a larger % of blokes wouldn’t mind or even enjoy being kissed by a woman whereas I’m guessing the % of women appreciating a kiss from a strange bloke would be far lower ??


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[Livia]

If he'd said afterwards, look, I shouldn't have done it, It was inappropriate... but we'd just won the world cup and I lost my mind for a second. Apologies to the woman concerned. That's not what he did, he went on the offensive and called her a liar. I get the feeling this man hasn't heard the word no many times in his life.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He has loads and loads of previous, this was not isolated

[Livia]

Has he, LT... that's interesting. But not unexpected.

[Crimson Dynamo]

his mum has locked herself in a church and is on hunger strike!

[Sticks]

he went on the offensive and called her a liar. I get the feeling this man hasn't heard the word no many times in his life.

Well that hussy is a big fat liar, I can smell her burning pants from over here.

That picture I posted on the BBC website proves it 100%

If there is any justice, her and her cohorts will never even see a football again, let alone kick one.

She should apologize to him for her lies

As for the Lionesses, they need to withdraw their support or face a legal action, they will lose. If I had been their brief, all they should have said, if anything at all, was that this is a matter for RFEF alone.

[Oliver_W]

his mum has locked herself in a church and is on hunger strike!

I wonder who idea that was.

[arista]

his mum has locked herself in a church and is on hunger strike!


[Spain FA chief Luis Rubiales’ mum locks
herself in church on HUNGER STRIKE
until Hermoso ‘tells truth’ on kiss]


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23678123/spain-fa-chief-luis-rubiales-mum-hunger-strike/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hermoso says the kiss was not consensual but then did he consent to her lifting him up off his feet?

[bots]

the guy is obviously an arse, but it sounds like the spanish federation are full of them. I think this issue has been brewing for a while and they have jumped on the opportunity to sort it out

[Zizu]

If he’s a wrong ‘un then there must be done gossip or scandal on the t’interweb !!?


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[Zizu]

Bloody hell !

Real Madrid and Barcelona's Champions League spots are now at risk over the Luis Rubiales scandal, according to reports in Spain.

In a shocking development on Monday, the Spanish FA have urged European governing body UEFA to consider expelling them due to the Spanish government's intervention over the ongoing World Cup 'kiss-gate' saga which saw £214,000-a-year official Rubiales kiss Spain star Jennifer Hermoso on the lips without her consent.


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[Swan]

https://cdn1.rousingthekop.com/uploads/4/2020/11/GettyImages-71347733.jpg

Serial kisser

[Livia]

Well that hussy is a big fat liar, I can smell her burning pants from over here.

That picture I posted on the BBC website proves it 100%

If there is any justice, her and her cohorts will never even see a football again, let alone kick one.

She should apologize to him for her lies

As for the Lionesses, they need to withdraw their support or face a legal action, they will lose. If I had been their brief, all they should have said, if anything at all, was that this is a matter for RFEF alone.

I've read your posts in the Ukraine war thread. You're as wide of the mark there as you are here.

[bots]

football organisations have been notoriously sexist across the world for ever. The same applies to most sports

[Sticks]

I've read your posts in the Ukraine war thread. You're as wide of the mark there as you are here.

I am a Cyber Devil's Advocate, my function is to put and champion the least popular view point.

Plus I seldom do bandwagons, which the Lionesses have jumped on, without considering the legal jeopardy they put themselves in by aligning themselves with Hermoso and her lies.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Luis Rubiales’ name is increasingly being associated with scandal. The President of the Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) was earlier forced to defend himself against accusations of corruption in collaboration with Gerard Pique and now the anti-corruption department is investigating him again.

According to El Mundo, Rubiales has been accused of hosting private parties/orgies at a chalet in the region of Granada. He used Federation money to fund these parties at which “8-10 young girls” would arrive at the chalet. They were expensed under the pretence of work event, at which the closest members of his team were present.

The accusing party is Juan Rubiales, his uncle and former chief of staff. Juan Rubiales also headed his campaign for the Presidency of the RFEF, before he was sacked in 2020.

https://www.football-espana.net/2022/09/15/luis-rubiales-accused-of-hosting-orgies-with-money-from-spanish-football-federation

[arista]

"Rubiales has been accused of hosting private parties/orgies"


Dirty Bugger
Kick him out

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Rubiales has been accused of hosting private parties/orgies"


Dirty Bugger
Kick him out

By his own Uncle!

[Sticks]

Sniff, sniff - I can smell burning

[arista]

[Spain FA chief Luis Rubiales’ mum locks
herself in church on HUNGER STRIKE
until Hermoso ‘tells truth’ on kiss]


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23678123/spain-fa-chief-luis-rubiales-mum-hunger-strike/



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4oJB1zW0AECL0A?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Nicky91]

this is all such bull**** nonsense made up by that attention seeking loser Hermoso

[The Slim Reaper]

What's made up, Nicky?

[Nicky91]

What's made up, Nicky?

boo hoo he kissed her


as if this sort of thing at victory celebrations hasn't happened before


i mean at Olympic Games with medal/victory celebrations it is traditional those who win, come 2nd and 3rd get kissed as well as hugged when receiving their medals, flowers



without consent :joker: did they have sex then in that stadium NOPE, just a kiss


what a drama queen Miss Hermoso is, just one kiss, there are women who have gone through way worse than just one kiss :idc:

[Nicky91]

and now others are jumping in on the trending news accusing him of hosting orgies


without evidence, also his uncle isn't exactly trustworthy evidence, i want concrete evidence from journalists

for all we know his uncle might be the one who hosts those parties, and him now subtly throwing him under the bus, amid already this negative news towards him :suspect:

[The Slim Reaper]

boo hoo he kissed her


as if this sort of thing at victory celebrations hasn't happened before


i mean at Olympic Games with medal/victory celebrations it is traditional those who win, come 2nd and 3rd get kissed as well as hugged when receiving their medals, flowers



without consent :joker: did they have sex then in that stadium NOPE, just a kiss


what a drama queen Miss Hermoso is, just one kiss, there are women who have gone through way worse than just one kiss :idc:

I think the kiss on both cheeks is pretty customary. Not sure I remember Usain Bolt or Michael Johnson being kissed on the lips, though.

[Zizu]

Luis Rubiales’ name is increasingly being associated with scandal. The President of the Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) was earlier forced to defend himself against accusations of corruption in collaboration with Gerard Pique and now the anti-corruption department is investigating him again.

According to El Mundo, Rubiales has been accused of hosting private parties/orgies at a chalet in the region of Granada. He used Federation money to fund these parties at which “8-10 young girls” would arrive at the chalet. They were expensed under the pretence of work event, at which the closest members of his team were present.

The accusing party is Juan Rubiales, his uncle and former chief of staff. Juan Rubiales also headed his campaign for the Presidency of the RFEF, before he was sacked in 2020.

https://www.football-espana.net/2022/09/15/luis-rubiales-accused-of-hosting-orgies-with-money-from-spanish-football-federation


Well La Liga is completely corrupt .. so if they are backing this guy I’d suggest that he’s a bad ‘un


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Well La Liga is completely corrupt .. so if they are backing this guy I’d suggest that he’s a bad ‘un


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He also got his phone hacked and messages were published

Messages and phone calls between Rubiales and Barcelona stalwart Gerard
Pique have been leaked to the media. The audio recordings revealed Pique
helped negotiate a €24million commission when the Supercopa was expanded
to four teams and moved to Saudi Arabia in 2020.

It was a deal reportedly worth €40m to the RFEF for every tournament played
in the middle-eastern state.

Pique's Kosmos group, a sports entertainment company founded in 2017,
would benefit to the tune of €4m per tournament over the six-year
agreement with Saudi Arabia.

https://thesportstak.com/soccer-news/luis-rubiales-hits-out-gangsters-hacked-phone-rfef-chief-defends-supercopa-move

corruption

[Zizu]

He also got his phone hacked and messages were published

Messages and phone calls between Rubiales and Barcelona stalwart Gerard
Pique have been leaked to the media. The audio recordings revealed Pique
helped negotiate a €24million commission when the Supercopa was expanded
to four teams and moved to Saudi Arabia in 2020.

It was a deal reportedly worth €40m to the RFEF for every tournament played
in the middle-eastern state.

Pique's Kosmos group, a sports entertainment company founded in 2017,
would benefit to the tune of €4m per tournament over the six-year
agreement with Saudi Arabia.

https://thesportstak.com/soccer-news/luis-rubiales-hits-out-gangsters-hacked-phone-rfef-chief-defends-supercopa-move

corruption


Predictable sadly


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[Zizu]

This is gonna gain momentum …

[Zizu]

There have apparently been loads of complaints from women over the years but not one of the cases have ever made it to the courts ..


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[Zizu]

Four new sexual assault complaints

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[Zizu]

Tamara Ramos, the general director of the Futbolistas ON players union, has alleged that Rubiales made offensive and crude comments to her when the pair worked together at the Spanish footballers’ association.

Ramos claims that Rubiales would say things like “come on, you came here to get on your knees” and would ask her what colour underwear she was wearing


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[Mystic Mock]

How has it taken so long for all of this to start coming out about him?

[Sticks]

I cannot see how the Spanish prosecutors can do anything as this took place in Australia, outside of their jurisdiction?

[Sticks]

Remember when she says it was not consensual, she actually lifted this poor guy into the air. Did he consent to that???

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/103A6/production/_130907466_rfef.jpg

[Zizu]

Remember when she says it was not consensual, she actually lifted this poor guy into the air. Did he consent to that???

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/103A6/production/_130907466_rfef.jpg


That looks kinda photoshopped .. even if it’s not - she wouldn’t have had time to react if he just jumped up and straddled her like the picture illustrates .. that’s not showing her ‘picking him up’ .

I’m not even sure she could take his weight .,

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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/pearlbiser/status/1695217069149630572?s=20


he also kissed the coach

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4lHMHjWgAAnWGS?format=jpg&name=small

[Niamh.]

Not on the lips though

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Any of you lads who are trying to argue that grabbing someone by the head and kissing them on the lips without their consent "isn't sexual assault" ... well.

I'm not even going to say anything actually :facepalm:. It is assault. Deal with it.

[bots]

i considered it sexual assault when my old auntie tried to kiss me on the cheek, let alone on the lips

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.thepinknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Alba-Redondo-LGBTQ-partner-Cristina-Monleon-Spain-World-Cup-final.jpg?w=589&h=281&crop=1

[Crimson Dynamo]

Any of you lads who are trying to argue that grabbing someone by the head and kissing them on the lips without their consent "isn't sexual assault" ... well.

I'm not even going to say anything actually :facepalm:. It is assault. Deal with it.

but not if a woman does it to a man like the racing jockey last week?

[user104658]

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article23497693.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Screen-Shot-2021-02-14-at-080313.png

Very good LT. If these two are team mates who know each other and this is a normal thing that both are OK with then there's no problem.

If the lighter hair guy says "I didn't want him to do that to me" then yes. He was assaulted. Not sure if you're trying to make some contrast/comparison here. It's not assault if there's consent. It is assault if there's not. "How To Not Sexually Assault People For Dummies".

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/27/09/68122909-11797021-image-a-68_1677491947327.jpg
SAG Awards 2023: Jamie Lee Curtis plants KISS on Michelle Yeoh's lips to celebrate her win | Daily Mail Online

[user104658]

but not if a woman does it to a man like the racing jockey last week?

If anyone does it to anyone.

Generally speaking, there is less implied threat when a woman does it to a man, however it doesn't have to cause massive upset or fear to be an assault. Again the key thing here is consent. And no I'm not saying "verbal consent always required!" - it's somewhat different if people are family/good friends and know each other well.

I don't believe for a second that's the case here with this. If anything, their relationship is closer to boss/employee which automatically means there's a power differential that makes it inappropriate.

[user104658]

Are you going for the Prince Andrew "Other people have done noncey stuff too!" defense here LT? Why are you posting these pictures like it demonstrates anything?

[bots]

the guy is a sleaze bag. It's obvious to everyone with a brain

[Sticks]

Anyway

I fail to see what the Spanish government have to do with anything. It happened in Australia out of Spanish Jurisdiction and I don't hear anything about the Australian authorities being bothered.

Luis Rubiales should stand his ground, when he is not being held in the air by a certain female soccer player.

[Cherie]

Remember when she says it was not consensual, she actually lifted this poor guy into the air. Did he consent to that???

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/103A6/production/_130907466_rfef.jpg

He probably jumped on to her :hehe:

seriously though he was probably totes embarrassed at being lifted off the ground by a woman so decided to assert his male dominance

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/PabloEchenique/status/1696254318066782294?s=20


No idea what the tweet says but just to address the issue that pic of him being lifted was fake

[Crimson Dynamo]

MXgbecMW-h4

[Nicky91]

sex without consent is assault


that is just a kiss


:idc: jeez louise

[user104658]

I can't quite believe I have to point this out but...

....no, "lifting someone off the ground" is not sexual assault?

FFS :umm2: worrying that some of you aren't in cages to be honest.

[user104658]

sex without consent is assault


that is just a kiss


:idc: jeez louise

I recommend you don't go out and test that theory Nicky.

[Nicky91]

also kissing one of their most powerhouse players on the lips, many many years of having played for that team, a very important player to that team and also to Barca


Hermoso, same as Putellas two of their strongest of the squad


and boo hoo if Mr Rubiales is very passionate about the team, to the extent he wants to kiss several of the players, when they became world champions for the first time, a big deal for spain with the women's football, and a big morale boost in general for their football, after their men's team has been kinda underachieving lately

[Zizu]

https://www.thepinknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Alba-Redondo-LGBTQ-partner-Cristina-Monleon-Spain-World-Cup-final.jpg?w=589&h=281&crop=1


Fake


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[Nicky91]

there are worse things than a kiss


did Overmars got banned for life from the sport, umm NOPE

and he did worse, showing dickpics to many women who also worked with Ajax, on social media, in their private messages :idc: they weren't minors ok, but still showing your dick can cause traumas regardless whatever your age is


currently won the title last season in Belgium, with Royal Antwerp, with fellow dutchman Mark van Bommel

:umm2:

[user104658]

also kissing one of their most powerhouse players on the lips, many many years of having played for that team, a very important player to that team and also to Barca


Hermoso, same as Putellas two of their strongest of the squad


and boo hoo if Mr Rubiales is very passionate about the team, to the extent he wants to kiss several of the players, when they became world champions for the first time, a big deal for spain with the women's football, and a big morale boost in general for their football, after their men's team has been kinda underachieving lately

Hot take Nicky:

Sexual assault is more important than football. Which isn't actually important at all.

[Nicky91]

Hot take Nicky:

Sexual assault is more important than football. Which isn't actually important at all.

a kiss isn't sexual assault


:umm2:

[Niamh.]

a kiss isn't sexual assault


:umm2:

It is if it's unwanted. Of course it is, jesus.

[bots]

can you imagine how it would have gone down if prince william had grabbed his crotch while celebrating an england womens win :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I bet if David Beckham did it to the women's team no one would kick off about it

[Nicky91]

can you imagine how it would have gone down if prince william had grabbed his crotch while celebrating an england womens win :joker:

that's not what Mr Rubiales did


stop making things up



it was just a kiss

[Niamh.]

that's not what Mr Rubiales did


stop making things up



it was just a kiss

He did grab his crotch.....

[Niamh.]

DN--jMRVlOc

[Swan]

can you imagine how it would have gone down if prince william had grabbed his crotch while celebrating an england womens win :joker:

And then kiss one of the players on the lips :joker:

Basically, 99.9% of these officials wouldn't dream of kissing a male player on the lips, so why he thought he could do it to one of the women is beyond me. We all know it was wrong of him, but also how stupid can a man get? Like, what on earth was he thinking? It's baffling.

[Niamh.]

I bet if David Beckham did it to the women's team no one would kick off about it

People complained when David Beckham kissed his own daughter on the lips so....

[Crimson Dynamo]

XagQB_4SMFs

[Niamh.]

You changed your opinion drastically from the start of the thread LT :laugh:

[user104658]

Ahh the old "it diminishes what real sexual assault is!" trope.

"80mph isn't speeding, officer, I've seen people doing over 100mph so..."

"It was just one slap in the fact, not a REAL assault, some people end up in hospital!"

Or of course the recent "he only nonced one measly 17 year old your honour stop over reacting" from the Andrew thread.

Or the classic; "Hungry? You're not hungry! There's starving children in 3rd world countries!"


tl;dr she's wrong that because there are obviously worse examples of sexual assault, that this is not a form of sexual assault. Where do you end that impossible standard? You're always going to be able to think of a worse form of assault. You can call something what it is and still acknowledge levels of severity. I don't think anyone has called for him to go to prison. He absolutely should lose his position.

[user104658]

You changed your opinion drastically from the start of the thread LT :laugh:

He watched some Right Wing Commentators talking about it and found out he had been accidentally woke :worry:. Thankfully, the tribe had not moved on too far yet, he could still hear their drums on the wind and quickly scurried back in line.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have not expressed much of an opinion i am just giving the thread examples of different narratives other than the mainstrean

[Niamh.]

I have not expressed much of an opinion i am just giving the thread examples of different narratives other than the mainstrean

You did say that if it had been David Beckham who kissed that girl that no one would complain.You also stated that most of these women are probably lesbian so why would it matter how good looking the man was for a start and secondly I don't think Luis Rubiales is unattractive either (although he comes across as a bit of a perv with his crotch grabbing on top of the kiss)

[Swan]

I think the fact the player has said she wasn't comfortable with it should be the main focus here. Also, his handling of it has been ridiculous. Had he said something like "look, i was over excited, i got wrapped up in the moment, it was a very foolish to do, i've let the team down and i apologise to Hermoso for my actions" etc then people might have a little more sympathy for him. That he doesn't know it was completely wrong of him to do is also a concern.

[thesheriff443]

If you know any thing about Spanish football, you would know how passionate and how fierce they are when it comes to football

I believe he just got caught up in the moment

And you double kiss on each cheek when meeting people so again kissing is not seen a strange thing to do.

[user104658]

different narratives other than the mainstream

:joker: :joker: Brett Cooper! :skull: :skull: :skull:

[bots]

it's escalated into much more than a kiss. Old scores are being settled, there is corruption at the heart of it. Obviously those in power will not give all that up without a fight

[user104658]

If you know any thing about Spanish football, you would know how passionate and how fierce they are when it comes to football

I'm pretty sure the player is also Spanish, and is a footballer, and she appears to disagree that this was "acceptable Spanish football passion" :think:

I believe he just got caught up in the moment


You don't get "caught up in the moment" and overstep into someone's personal space without a clear underlying disregard for that space in the first place. Is that all it takes to excuse a mindset of entitlement? A slip of concentration? Even if you're right, the message has to be delivered as swiftly and decisively as possible that over-stepping like this will land you in hot water.

I think you'll find that, miraculously, once the line is clear far fewer men get "caught up in the moment". Funny, that.

[AnnieK]

I think the fact the player has said she wasn't comfortable with it should be the main focus here. Also, his handling of it has been ridiculous. Had he said something like "look, i was over excited, i got wrapped up in the moment, it was a very foolish to do, i've let the team down and i apologise to Hermoso for my actions" etc then people might have a little more sympathy for him. That he doesn't know it was completely wrong of him to do is also a concern.

100% agree.

His reaction is the main red flag to me and shows he is either not used to being called out or sees no wrong in his actions even when he knows he has made someone very uncomfortable.

I don't care how fierce or passionate someone is about anything, if your actions make someone else uncomfortable, no matter how innocuous you perceive it, you acknowledge their feelings and apologise.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: :joker: Brett Cooper! :skull: :skull: :skull:

Brett is an excellent commentator :nono:

[user104658]

I think the fact the player has said she wasn't comfortable with it should be the main focus here. Also, his handling of it has been ridiculous. Had he said something like "look, i was over excited, i got wrapped up in the moment, it was a very foolish to do, i've let the team down and i apologise to Hermoso for my actions" etc then people might have a little more sympathy for him. That he doesn't know it was completely wrong of him to do is also a concern.

IMO it's likely not the first time, likely not the only member of the team he's made feel uncomfortable, likely has been talked about amongst them in the past with a feeling that there's not a lot that could be done about it because of his position and influence.

But he got "caught up in the moment" and behaved the same with the eyes of the world on him - wups - which gave her the opportunity to say "yeah actually this isn't OK" with a lessened risk of persecution.

[user104658]

Brett is an excellent commentator :nono:

She doesn't offer a non-mainstream narrative, unless you think Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan are also non-mainstream.

Maybe you meant an alternative narrative. Or alt-bait, anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The video of them in the dressing room shrieking and laughing at the social media comments shouting a giggling as they asked "did he use tongues?" is not a great look..

[bots]

tell me LT, would you grab your crotch in celebration knowing that millions of people were watching?

[user104658]

The video of them in the dressing room shrieking and laughing at the social media comments shouting a giggling as they asked "did he use tongues?" is not a great look..

Ah the Perfect Victim fallacy now.

Maybe she shouldn't have been wearing those skimpy football shorts :nono:

(Perfect Victim fallacy is a well known trope in situations like this, i.e. if the victim isn't behaving "the way a victim is s'pposed to" behave then their victimhood is lessened or negated, and the perpetrator's actions excused in hindsight).

[user104658]

tell me LT, would you grab your crotch in celebration knowing that millions of people were watching?

Grabbing one's dick to celebrate one's country's women's team winning the world cup is a Freudian goldmine.

[Crimson Dynamo]

tell me LT, would you grab your crotch in celebration knowing that millions of people were watching?

rather than get the old lad out and do the windmill?

[thesheriff443]

I'm pretty sure the player is also Spanish, and is a footballer, and she appears to disagree that this was "acceptable Spanish football passion" :think:



You don't get "caught up in the moment" and overstep into someone's personal space without a clear underlying disregard for that space in the first place. Is that all it takes to excuse a mindset of entitlement? A slip of concentration? Even if you're right, the message has to be delivered as swiftly and decisively as possible that over-stepping like this will land you in hot water.

I think you'll find that, miraculously, once the line is clear far fewer men get "caught up in the moment". Funny, that.

Sorry don’t agree with you

[thesheriff443]

I will add having had a Spanish partner for six years a massive Real Madrid fan and standing in the stands in Spain

People on here won’t be able to understand what it’s like to be a Spanish football supporter

[Zizu]

I bet if David Beckham did it to the women's team no one would kick off about it


Apparently 65% to 70% of them may not necessarily appreciate his advances

;)


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[user104658]

I will add having had a Spanish partner for six years a massive Real Madrid fan and standing in the stands in Spain

People on here won’t be able to understand what it’s like to be a Spanish football supporter

I don't need to understand what it's like to be a male Spanish football supporter in order to understand that this female Spanish football player didn't want to be kissed by this bloke and was uncomfortable with it. But maybe you know better than her as well?

Maybe none of these weepy lady victims can understand what it's like to be the passioante men who assault them, eh Sheriff. A failing on their part, really.

[Zizu]

If you know any thing about Spanish football, you would know how passionate and how fierce they are when it comes to football

I believe he just got caught up in the moment

And you double kiss on each cheek when meeting people so again kissing is not seen a strange thing to do.


That’s all very plausible had he not have a long , long history of this type of thing


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[Zizu]

IMO it's likely not the first time, likely not the only member of the team he's made feel uncomfortable, likely has been talked about amongst them in the past with a feeling that there's not a lot that could be done about it because of his position and influence.

But he got "caught up in the moment" and behaved the same with the eyes of the world on him - wups - which gave her the opportunity to say "yeah actually this isn't OK" with a lessened risk of persecution.


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[Zizu]

The video of them in the dressing room shrieking and laughing at the social media comments shouting a giggling as they asked "did he use tongues?" is not a great look..


If that report is accurate ( link ?) then they may be just teasing her to lighten the situation or lift her spirits with some humour


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[user104658]

If that report is accurate ( link ?) then they may be just teasing her to lighten the situation or lift her spirits with some humour


Indeed, like I said it's the mytho of the perfect victim and how people are supposed to behave. Just because she didn't want it, and was uncomfortable with it, doesn't mean she was traumatised by it. It also doesn't change the facts.

Sadly, for example, there are people out there who are so used to being abused and assaulted that they think nothing of it when it happens. And because they don't seem horrendously upset or shaken by it, the assumption is that "it can't actually have happened because they'd be more upset if it did".

[Sticks]

How can any Spanish court look at this, it happened in Australia, outside their jurisdiction and I do not hear or read of the Australian authorities bothering with this?

Fuss about nothing, possibly by a floozey seeking a grubby gold digging payday, whilst their friends eyes light up with pound or dollar signs and like others elsewhere jump up and down and say "Me too, Me too, I want a pay day please, Me too" :bored:

[thesheriff443]

I don't need to understand what it's like to be a male Spanish football supporter in order to understand that this female Spanish football player didn't want to be kissed by this bloke and was uncomfortable with it. But maybe you know better than her as well?

Maybe none of these weepy lady victims can understand what it's like to be the passioante men who assault them, eh Sheriff. A failing on their part, really.

I don’t trust any man such as yourself that demonise other men who have a different opinion to you

Your not a woman, your man that wants to been seen as this upstanding decent person who cares so very much for the safety of women

Your crap don’t wash with me.

[The Slim Reaper]

In other news, police are still searching for this dude who was caught on CCTV in Fuengirola about 6 years ago.

Stay vigilant out there, people.

1696300376671318280

[Mystic Mock]

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article23497693.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Screen-Shot-2021-02-14-at-080313.png

Little did Gary Neville know... Scholes had his Daughter's Toe Nails stuck on his tongue that day.:hehe:

[Mystic Mock]

Anyway

I fail to see what the Spanish government have to do with anything. It happened in Australia out of Spanish Jurisdiction and I don't hear anything about the Australian authorities being bothered.

Luis Rubiales should stand his ground, when he is not being held in the air by a certain female soccer player.

I just hope that this case doesn't make people forget about Mason Greenwood coming back into Football sooner than later.

[Mystic Mock]

Hot take Nicky:

Sexual assault is more important than football. Which isn't actually important at all.

Football's not more important than sexual assault I agree.

But a lot of communities unite together because of Football, so it definitely has it's importance in society in it's own way imo.

[Mystic Mock]

People complained when David Beckham kissed his own daughter on the lips so....

Now that is silly imo because nothing sexual is happening there (I hope) so the people that attacked Beckham for that were being OTT imo.

[Niamh.]

Now that is silly imo because nothing sexual is happening there (I hope) so the people that attacked Beckham for that were being OTT imo.Oh I agree completely

[Nicky91]

How can any Spanish court look at this, it happened in Australia, outside their jurisdiction and I do not hear or read of the Australian authorities bothering with this?

Fuss about nothing, possibly by a floozey seeking a grubby gold digging payday, whilst their friends eyes light up with pound or dollar signs and like others elsewhere jump up and down and say "Me too, Me too, I want a pay day please, Me too" :bored:

exactly


it isn't even a real MeToo case anyway, other women have coped with way worse, you know those who actually got raped, actually got sexually assaulted


not just some lame kiss on the lips

[Crimson Dynamo]

New footage shows Jenni Hermoso laughing and joking on the team bus about Luis
Rubiales kissing her after Women's World Cup final - before team-mates chant 'kiss' when
the Spanish chief gets on board


New footage has showed Jenni Hermoso joking with her Spain team-mates
Hermoso is shown to be laughing at memes of her being kissed by Luis Rubiales


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/30/00/74853305-12459013-image-a-43_1693350421224.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/30/00/74853309-12459013-image-a-45_1693350499986.jpg

The leaked footage, posted on Twitter account Alvise Perez, appeared
alongside the hard-hitting message: 'Let's begin @Jennihermoso.

1) Why were you showing off with your teammates and posing as you
laughed with the meme of your short kiss with Rubiales?

2) Why are all your team-mates who now say they're scandalised shouting
with you at Rubiales 'Kiss' on the bus after seeing the peck on the lips?

3) Why did you ask Rubiales jokingly for a kiss on the bus, and why did you
laugh when he replied, 'No, you're making me blush?'

'I don't want you to 'say the truth' because Spain today knows it.

'I want you to go to prison.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12459013/Jenni-Hermoso-laugh-Luis-Rubiales-kiss-team-bus-world-cup.html#newcomment

[user104658]

I don’t trust any man such as yourself that demonise other men who have a different opinion to you

I'm not looking for your trust sheriff, nor the trust of anyone who thinks "football fan passion" is an excuse for lacking self control and invading someone's space.

Your not a woman, your man that wants to been seen as this upstanding decent person who cares so very much for the safety of women

Your crap don’t wash with me.

I think it's fairly evident that I don't give a stuff "how I'm seen" - least of all on here :joker:. I just do actually care. I find it worrying that you think men who vocally care about the safety of women must be full of crap :umm2:.

It's OK I get it, you're a man's man. So long as no big blokey feelings are getting hurt, the rest is all fair game. Poor wee souls.

[user104658]

'I want you to go to prison.'


PRISON! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: the Daily Mail comments section, ladies and gentlemen.

"I didn't like that kiss and didn't want that man to kiss me."

"BUT YOU LAUGHED ABOUT IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS!! Straight to jail with you!"

:skull: how do these people get through the day full of this sort of over-the-top bile?

[Niamh.]

I'm not looking for your trust sheriff, nor the trust of anyone who thinks "football fan passion" is an excuse for lacking self control and invading someone's space.



I think it's fairly evident that I don't give a stuff "how I'm seen" - least of all on here :joker:. I just do actually care. I find it worrying that you think men who vocally care about the safety of women must be full of crap :umm2:.

It's OK I get it, you're a man's man. So long as no big blokey feelings are getting hurt, the rest is all fair game. Poor wee souls.

To add to that you have a wife and two daughters, it would be weird if you weren't concerned about the safety of girls/women, surely?

[thesheriff443]

To add to that you have a wife and two daughters, it would be weird if you weren't concerned about the safety of girls/women, surely?

Words mean nothing having been out sober and seen women get hassled by drunk dicks I’m the man that steps in

I’m the one that finds a young girl crying late at night on a dark lane having got away from a taxi driver trying it on, i took her home

I’m the one that finds a 14 year old at two in the morning after leaving a house party that people were doing drugs at . I’m the one that waited with her while her mum drove to get her

I’m the one that stopped at the side of the road a girl trying to leave her boyfriend to get a train home he was stopped her , I gave her a lift to the train station

Countless times I’ve stepped in to help women being targeted

I have a partner a daughter three sisters

Having strong opinions on here mean **** all in the real world

There are two types of people those that talk and those that do

I know which one I’m proud to be.

[Crimson Dynamo]

PRISON! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: the Daily Mail comments section, ladies and gentlemen.

"I didn't like that kiss and didn't want that man to kiss me."

"BUT YOU LAUGHED ABOUT IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS!! Straight to jail with you!"

:skull: how do these people get through the day full of this sort of over-the-top bile?

If you read the article that is a Spanish tweet not a DM comment

[user104658]

Words mean nothing having been out sober and seen women get hassled by drunk dicks I’m the man that steps in

I’m the one that finds a young girl crying late at night on a dark lane having got away from a taxi driver trying it on, i took her home

I’m the one that finds a 14 year old at two in the morning after leaving a house party that people were doing drugs at . I’m the one that waited with her while her mum drove to get her

I’m the one that stopped at the side of the road a girl trying to leave her boyfriend to get a train home he was stopped her , I gave her a lift to the train station

Countless times I’ve stepped in to help women being targeted

I have a partner a daughter three sisters

Having strong opinions on here mean **** all in the real world

There are two types of people those that talk and those that do

I know which one I’m proud to be.

It is actually possible to do both Sheriff. Bit odd that you've seen all of these things and done all of these things but would still excuse a bloke imposing himself on a woman for any reason (let alone "football passion").

Know what else is a fun statistic?

Domestic violence and spousal sexual assault both increase dramatically all across central Scotland on Old Firm clash weekends. Yeah I guess I am having a failure in comprehension by not understanding why "being passionate about a ball getting kicked about" prompts some men to beat up and/or sexually assault their wives and partners.

One of the most bizarre and pathetic excuses for loss of control I've ever encountered.

It's nothing new of course, entitled manbabies throwing their toys out of the pram over a lost game of footie is something I've seen my whole life. So I shouldn't be surprised that winning a tournament is, apparently, an excuse for losing control as well.

[The Slim Reaper]

Words mean nothing having been out sober and seen women get hassled by drunk dicks I’m the man that steps in

I’m the one that finds a young girl crying late at night on a dark lane having got away from a taxi driver trying it on, i took her home

I’m the one that finds a 14 year old at two in the morning after leaving a house party that people were doing drugs at . I’m the one that waited with her while her mum drove to get her

I’m the one that stopped at the side of the road a girl trying to leave her boyfriend to get a train home he was stopped her , I gave her a lift to the train station

Countless times I’ve stepped in to help women being targeted

I have a partner a daughter three sisters

Having strong opinions on here mean **** all in the real world

There are two types of people those that talk and those that do

I know which one I’m proud to be.

GKCrm8xZdsg

[Nicky91]

New footage shows Jenni Hermoso laughing and joking on the team bus about Luis
Rubiales kissing her after Women's World Cup final - before team-mates chant 'kiss' when
the Spanish chief gets on board


New footage has showed Jenni Hermoso joking with her Spain team-mates
Hermoso is shown to be laughing at memes of her being kissed by Luis Rubiales


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/30/00/74853305-12459013-image-a-43_1693350421224.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/30/00/74853309-12459013-image-a-45_1693350499986.jpg

The leaked footage, posted on Twitter account Alvise Perez, appeared
alongside the hard-hitting message: 'Let's begin @Jennihermoso.

1) Why were you showing off with your teammates and posing as you
laughed with the meme of your short kiss with Rubiales?

2) Why are all your team-mates who now say they're scandalised shouting
with you at Rubiales 'Kiss' on the bus after seeing the peck on the lips?

3) Why did you ask Rubiales jokingly for a kiss on the bus, and why did you
laugh when he replied, 'No, you're making me blush?'

'I don't want you to 'say the truth' because Spain today knows it.

'I want you to go to prison.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12459013/Jenni-Hermoso-laugh-Luis-Rubiales-kiss-team-bus-world-cup.html#newcomment

this is soooo the type of behaviour of someone who is allegedly ''sexually assaulted''

:idc:

[user104658]

this is soooo the type of behaviour of someone who is allegedly ''sexually assaulted''

:idc:

So what is the "sort of behaviour" of someone who has been assaulted, Nicky? You seem to know what "isn't", so I assume you know what "is".

[Nicky91]

So what is the "sort of behaviour" of someone who has been assaulted, Nicky? You seem to know what "isn't", so I assume you know what "is".

at least not someone who makes jokes about that on the bus



we all know what is though? from actual rape victims, how they suffer from that trauma and need help weeks, months even years after that assault had taken place

[user104658]

at least not someone who makes jokes about that on the bus



we all know what is though? from actual rape victims, how they suffer from that trauma and need help weeks, months even years after that assault had taken place

The answer is that there is no usual or expected response from an assault victim; some people are traumatised, some people stuff down their feelings about it, some people genuinely aren't hugely affected at all. And some make jokes. "Expecting" a certain response is a mistake... everyone is different. This argument has been used to get rapists off the hook countless times... "victim didn't seem upset enough for it to be true".

[Livia]

He has previous. I want to hear more about that...

[Crimson Dynamo]

. https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/1696569678951329918?t=iFx_5GwoD6dLzWtFk2sg-g&s=19

[Livia]

It was a warm day.... ewwwww....

[Zizu]

New footage shows Jenni Hermoso laughing and joking on the team bus about Luis
Rubiales kissing her after Women's World Cup final - before team-mates chant 'kiss' when
the Spanish chief gets on board


New footage has showed Jenni Hermoso joking with her Spain team-mates
Hermoso is shown to be laughing at memes of her being kissed by Luis Rubiales


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/30/00/74853305-12459013-image-a-43_1693350421224.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/30/00/74853309-12459013-image-a-45_1693350499986.jpg

The leaked footage, posted on Twitter account Alvise Perez, appeared
alongside the hard-hitting message: 'Let's begin @Jennihermoso.

1) Why were you showing off with your teammates and posing as you
laughed with the meme of your short kiss with Rubiales?

2) Why are all your team-mates who now say they're scandalised shouting
with you at Rubiales 'Kiss' on the bus after seeing the peck on the lips?

3) Why did you ask Rubiales jokingly for a kiss on the bus, and why did you
laugh when he replied, 'No, you're making me blush?'

'I don't want you to 'say the truth' because Spain today knows it.

'I want you to go to prison.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12459013/Jenni-Hermoso-laugh-Luis-Rubiales-kiss-team-bus-world-cup.html#newcomment


I can’t find any footage .. and that Daily Mail link is just like every other Daily Mail link .. utter nonsense and completely made up or grossly exaggerated to make up a story out of nothing

They are all basically ClickBait links


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[Mystic Mock]

It is actually possible to do both Sheriff. Bit odd that you've seen all of these things and done all of these things but would still excuse a bloke imposing himself on a woman for any reason (let alone "football passion").

Know what else is a fun statistic?

Domestic violence and spousal sexual assault both increase dramatically all across central Scotland on Old Firm clash weekends. Yeah I guess I am having a failure in comprehension by not understanding why "being passionate about a ball getting kicked about" prompts some men to beat up and/or sexually assault their wives and partners.

One of the most bizarre and pathetic excuses for loss of control I've ever encountered.

It's nothing new of course, entitled manbabies throwing their toys out of the pram over a lost game of footie is something I've seen my whole life. So I shouldn't be surprised that winning a tournament is, apparently, an excuse for losing control as well.

I'm going to bet that those men that are in that particular stat were probably already abusive before any Old Firm match.

I'm going to guess that some abusers try to use Football as a get out of jail card, similar to when parents used to blame GTA or Manhunt as to why their child just dismembered someone else's body, because unfortunately certain individuals can't just accept that they have issues.

[arista]

His mother, who went on a hunger strike
in a church, has been taken to hospital.

[user104658]

I'm going to bet that those men that are in that particular stat were probably already abusive before any Old Firm match.

I'm going to guess that some abusers try to use Football as a get out of jail card, similar to when parents used to blame GTA or Manhunt as to why their child just dismembered someone else's body, because unfortunately certain individuals can't just accept that they have issues.

Of course they're abusive all the time, the point is that statistically attacks and assaults go up on Old Firm match days specifically because these men get "passionate" about the football and take out their frustration on the people around them. Like children. Grown adults should be able to keep their "passions" in check and not let them affect their behaviour. On this thread, "getting carried away" was being used as justification for grown adults acting without thinking. It might be the explanation - but it isn't an excuse. It's just a game, and they need to grow up.

[Zizu]

His mother, who went on a hunger strike
in a church, has been taken to hospital.


From mot eating !! ?!


How long has she gone without food.

Bear Grills reckons that anyone can last weeks without FOOD and three days without water


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[user104658]

From mot eating !! ?!


How long has she gone without food.

Bear Grills reckons that anyone can last weeks without FOOD and three days without water


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You can SURVIVE without food - you'll be pretty unwell after a few days. Also he's talking about healthy adults... older people and kids will fare worse.

Also there's a "hump" to get over when blood sugar has dropped to low levels. Body will switch to burning fat (and then muscle ... and then organs...) in time but while it's still "expecting" food, it wants sugar/carbs, and you'll feel very weak and unwell without them.

OR she might also not be drinking enough and have gotten dehydrated.

[bots]

if someone has diabetes, going on hunger strike will be a serious issue within hours

[user104658]

if someone has diabetes, going on hunger strike will be a serious issue within hours

Type 1 yes definitely, intermittent fasting can actually help people with type 2 (managed properly of course).

Again, healthy adults like age 18-50. For younger people (growing) or older (to be blunt... less internally stable) not the best idea.

[Swan]

Jenni Hermoso has filed a legal complaint over kiss with Rubiales. It means Rubiales could face criminal charges.

[Zizu]

Jenni Hermoso has filed a legal complaint over kiss with Rubiales. It means Rubiales could face criminal charges.


Yes

Swapping saliva has so many repercussions especially with a slimeball like this guy who apparently gets up to all sorts !!


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[Swan]

Yes

Swapping saliva has so many repercussions especially with a slimeball like this guy who apparently gets up to all sorts !!


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I still can't get over how idiotic he was.

[Sticks]

Jenni Hermoso has filed a legal complaint over kiss with Rubiales. It means Rubiales could face criminal charges.

Has she filed it in an Australian court as it happened there?

Spain has no jurisdiction over what happens in another sovereign state.

[Swan]

Has she filed it in an Australian court as it happened there?

Spain has no jurisdiction over what happens in another sovereign state.

I honestly don't know, i only read the headline.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So just to clarify

After she lifted him off the ground with a very tight hug :umm2:

If she had kissed him on the lips it would have been totally fine?

Just like the lady and the jockey

Is that correct?

[Beso]

Its sounding like a witch hunt now.

[arista]

He Luis Rubiales
is Now going to Stand Down


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66637879


BBCnews
Showed Piers Morgan Talk TV Exclusive
talking to Luis

[bots]

gone at last

[arista]

Yes took a long time


CNN HD

also showing Talk TV
Piers Morgan Exclusive
talking to Luis

[Mystic Mock]

So just to clarify

After she lifted him off the ground with a very tight hug :umm2:

If she had kissed him on the lips it would have been totally fine?

Just like the lady and the jockey

Is that correct?

Has the Jockey complained about being uncomfortable though? Because that is a pretty big difference between the two situations.

However I will say that I think that there have been some people on TV and in the Media circles full stop that don't really care about this situation or Hermoso, they just want to score brownie points against the "other side" and it's honestly pathetic how low these people are tbh.

And for anyone wanting me to point out an example, look at the Lionesses clearly PR managed statement about this situation.

But on the other side, Rubiales hasn't done himself any favours with his behaviour during the final, but especially during the aftermath, he just couldn't admit that he might've gone OTT.

[Beso]

How many weeks of saturated news coverage have we had on this!!! Compaed to the one day we got when the Dali llama was demanding french kisses from a 8yr old child..


But still people cant see what's happening before their eyes.:shrug:

[Zizu]

So just to clarify

After she lifted him off the ground with a very tight hug :umm2:


Is that correct?


Wasn’t that a fake joke photo ??

He’s so much heavier ..


This is genuine apparently

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230913/4de7194f36c606081c1201aab0270419.jpg


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[Zizu]

Yes took a long time


CNN HD

also showing Talk TV
Piers Morgan Exclusive
talking to Luis


Morgan is also a slimeball who connects with repulsive people like this guy .. and Trump


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[Mystic Mock]

How many weeks of saturated news coverage have we had on this!!! Compaed to the one day we got when the Dali llama was demanding french kisses from a 8yr old child..


But still people cant see what's happening before their eyes.:shrug:

We all know that the Media unfortunately has quite a few Paedo sympathizers.