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arista
05-09-2023, 03:43 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_India#Bh%C4%81rata
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India is thinking changing its name to Bharat
a name from the past.
This is a Stupid Move
leave it as India,
Turkey has changed their name
but many Do Not Use it's new name "Türkiye"
joeysteele
05-09-2023, 05:55 PM
The World is really going nuts
Crimson Dynamo
05-09-2023, 05:57 PM
Idiots
they could have named it something sensible like bhaji or pakora
Mystic Mock
05-09-2023, 11:44 PM
I will miss India.:bawling:
I will miss India.:bawling:
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Nicky91
06-09-2023, 07:35 AM
where the name Bharat comes from
Bhārata, Hindi: भारत, romanized: Bhārat (see schwa deletion), was selected as an alternative name of India in the Article 1 of Constitution of India adopted in 1950.[26]
The name Bhārata is derived from the name of the Vedic tribe Bharatas who are mentioned in the Rigveda as one of the original tribes of the Aryavarta and notably participating in The Battle of the Ten Kings. Some other Puranic passages refer to the same as Bhārata people, who are described as the descendants of Dushyanta's son Bharata in the Mahabharata.[27]
The earliest recorded use of Bhārata-varṣa (lit. 'Bhārata mainland') in a geographical sense is in the Hathigumpha inscription of King Kharavela (first century BCE), where it applies only to a restrained area of northern India, namely the part of the Ganges west of Magadha.[2][3] In the Sanskrit epic, the Mahabharata (200 BCE to 300 CE), a larger region of North India is encompassed by the term, but much of the Deccan and South India are still excluded.[28]
Bhārata has been used as a self-ascribed name by some people of the Indian subcontinent and the Republic of India.[29] The designation Bhārata appears in the official Sanskrit name of the country, Bhārata Gaṇarājya. The name is derived from the ancient Hindu Puranas, which refer to the land that comprises India as Bhāratavarṣa and uses this term to distinguish it from other varṣas or continents.[30] For example, the Vayu Purana says "he who conquers the whole of Bhāratavarṣa is celebrated as a samrāta (Vayu Purana 45, 86)."[31]
The Sanskrit word Bhārata is a vṛddhi derivation of Bharata, which was originally an epithet of Agni. The term is a verbal noun of the Sanskrit root bhr-, "to bear/to carry", with a literal meaning of to be maintained (of fire). The root bhr is cognate with the English verb to bear and Latin ferō. This term also means "one who is engaged in search for knowledge". Barato, the Esperanto name for India, is also a derivation of Bhārata.
According to the Puranas, this country is known as Bhāratavarṣa after Bharat, the son of Rishabha. He was a Kshatriya born in Solar dynasty. (Reference -Champat Rai Jain 1929, p. 92). This has been mentioned in Vishnu Purana (2,1,31), Vayu Purana (33,52), Linga Purana (1,47,23), Brahmanda Purana (14,5,62), Agni Purana (107,11–12), Skanda Purana, Khanda (37,57) and Markandaya Purana (50,41), all using the designation Bhāratavarṣa.
Vishnu Purāna mentions:
ऋषभो मरुदेव्याश्च ऋषभात् भरतो भवेत्।
भरताद् भारतं वर्षं, भरतात् सुमतिस्त्वभूत्॥
Rishabha was born to Marudevi, Bharata was born to Rishabh,
Bhāratavarṣa arose from Bharata and Sumati arose from Bharata.
—Vishnu Purana (2,1,31)
ततश्च भारतं वर्षमेतल्लोकेषुगीयते।
भरताय यत: पित्रा दत्तं प्रतिष्ठिता वनम्॥ (विष्णु पुराण, २,१,३२)
This country is known as Bhāratavarṣa since the times the father entrusted the kingdom to the son Bharata and he himself went to the forest for ascetic practices.[32]
—Vishnu Purana (2,1,32)
uttaraṃ yatsamudrasya himādreścaiva dakṣiṇam
varṣaṃ tadbhārataṃ nāma bhāratī yatra santatiḥ
उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम्।
वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः॥
"The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhārata; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."
The Srimad Bhagavat Purana mentions(Canto 5, Chapter 4)[33] - "He (Rishabha) begot a hundred sons that were exactly like him... He (Bharata) had the best qualities and it was because of him that this land by the people is called Bhāratavarṣa"
The Bhāratas were also a Vedic tribe mentioned in the Rigveda, notably participating in the Battle of the Ten Kings.
The realm of Bharat is known as Bhāratavarṣa in the Mahabharata (the core portion of which is itself known as Bhārata) and later texts. According to the text, the term Bharat is from the king Bharat, who was the son of Dushyanta and Sha****ala and the term varsa means a division of the earth or a continent.[citation needed]
Bharata Khanda (or Bhārata Kṣetra [34]) is a term used in some of the Hindu texts.
you can also call them Hindustan or Jambudvipa
Both Gyagar and Phagyul are Tibetan names for India
the chinese name is Tianzhu
and the hebrew name is Hodu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_India#Bh%C4%81rata
hijaxers
06-09-2023, 12:12 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_India#Bh%C4%81rata
Live on WION HD Gravitas Part 1
India is thinking changing its name to Bharat
a name from the past.
This is a Stupid Move
leave it as India,
Turkey has changed their name
but many Do Not Use it's new name "Türkiye"
Yes i agree Arista everyone will still call it India and it will be an expensive exercise.
Crimson Dynamo
06-09-2023, 12:25 PM
Pakistan are thinking of changing their name now
To Obama
Nicky91
06-09-2023, 01:23 PM
i call Turkish people's nation
Türkiye
but in terms of India, you have all sorts of names for them, if they want to call their nation Bharat, fine, but we are entitled to still say India, here in the west, same how in Israel they have a different name too, and in China
The Slim Reaper
06-09-2023, 01:28 PM
Not really an issue or a problem for anyone on here :laugh:
Niamh.
06-09-2023, 01:29 PM
How is it pronounced
Barat
Farat
Varat
Bah-har-at?
Or something totally different?
Not really an issue or a problem for anyone on here :laugh:
it could be an issue when sending an air mail letter to india and it doesn't arrive because the country name has changed
The Slim Reaper
06-09-2023, 01:33 PM
it could be an issue when sending an air mail letter to india and it doesn't arrive because the country name has changed
Apologies. This will really affect people with Indian *checks notes, pen pals :laugh:
Niamh.
06-09-2023, 01:38 PM
it could be an issue when sending an air mail letter to india and it doesn't arrive because the country name has changed
Letters would still arrive :laugh:
Cherie
06-09-2023, 01:40 PM
i call Turkish people's nation
Türkiye
but in terms of India, you have all sorts of names for them, if they want to call their nation Bharat, fine, but we are entitled to still say India, here in the west, same how in Israel they have a different name too, and in China
we still sometimes refer to the Netherlands as Holland it can be a hard habit to break
arista
06-09-2023, 02:36 PM
How is it pronounced
Barat
Farat
Varat
Bah-har-at?
Or something totally different?
It was that on the TV news WION HD
Niamh.
06-09-2023, 02:39 PM
It was that on the TV news WION HD
Thanks Arista
Crimson Dynamo
06-09-2023, 03:29 PM
I'm sure Bots still writes to his lady penpal in Siam?
Cherie
06-09-2023, 03:31 PM
I'm sure Bots still writes to his lady penpal in Siam?
and Constantinople
Niamh.
06-09-2023, 03:33 PM
I did actually have a Russian Penpal when I was a kid, her address changed from Leningrad to St. Petersburg in the the time we used to write to each other
UserSince2005
06-09-2023, 06:51 PM
Change it to Jai Ho, or don't bother tbh.
Crimson Dynamo
06-09-2023, 07:28 PM
I did actually have a Russian Penpal
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Niamh.
06-09-2023, 08:02 PM
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arista
07-09-2023, 01:40 AM
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arista
07-09-2023, 01:54 AM
[Hannah Ellis-Petersen, South Asia
correspondent
at the Guardian]
[India or Bharat? As the history books show,
this is a question that goes back centuries.
As India prepares to host the G20 summit
this weekend, state-issued invitations sent
to world leaders using the word “Bharat”
have ignited rumours that
Narendra Modi’s nationalist government might
plan to phase out the English name.
Some have declared it a triumphant move
to finally throw off colonial chains,
others have called it a disastrous
vanity project by the prime minister.
In 1947, when British rule was finally
overthrown,
India ostensibly had three coexisting names,
each with its own history,
connotation and legitimacy.
There was India, a name thought to have
its origins in Sanskrit, referring to the
Indus River that runs through the north
of the country.
It was first used in different iterations
by the Persians, the ancient Greeks and Romans
more than 2,000 years ago and was widely
adopted by British maps in the
18th century to refer to the territory
in the subcontinent under British rule.
There was Hindustan, the name used by
the Persians, the Greeks,
Delhi sultans and the Mughals for
hundreds of years to refer to a
large stretch of the north and centre
of the subcontinent.]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/07/india-or-bharat-g20-invitations-throw-up-question-dating-back-centuries
arista
07-09-2023, 02:01 AM
Yes i agree Arista everyone will still call it India and it will be an expensive exercise.
Yes, some companies can not afford
a name change.
Companies have Vans and Boxes
it could take many years
Mystic Mock
07-09-2023, 05:41 AM
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