Peckham Shoplifter apprehended, BLM protest

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Hundreds of people gathered at the shop spouting anti-Asian sentiments

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A 31-year-old woman was arrested on suspicion of assault on Tuesday and later
released on bail.

People in Peckham were asked to remain calm after the video was circulated on
social media.

Speaking to the BBC after Monday's incident but before Tuesday afternoon's
protest, the poor shopkeeper said the woman had become aggressive when she
was refused a refund on products she had previously bought at the store.



"We do not give refunds, we exchange items or give a credit note. So she
grabbed some stuff [three packs of hair with a total value of £24] from the shelf and tried to leave. She was leaving and I was stopping her.


"I was stopping her. She slapped me in the face and grabbed a shopping
basket and hit me on the head. I don't know when my hand goes around her neck. I was keeping her neutralised. I did not hit her.

"The video was cropped. People are acting at the half truth".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66790189

This shoplifting and violence to legitimate businesses is out of control

[Redway]

This has literally nothing to do with BLM.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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failing to blame a criminal shoplifter

race baiting

[Crimson Dynamo]

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ignoring the fact she tried to steal goods

unbelievable

[Mystic Mock]

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failing to blame a criminal shoplifter

race baiting

It's not a good look from BLM I'll say that.

Although choking her might be a bit excessive.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not a good look from BLM I'll say that.

Although choking her might be a bit excessive.

he wasnt choking, she was attacking him and he was restraining her as best he could

you cant really choke with one hand in a struggle

her reaction to being told "no you cannot break the law" was shocking

clearly, she had to regard for this Asian Businessman of the community

[Mystic Mock]

he wasnt choking, she was attacking him and he was restraining her as best he could

you cant really choke with one hand in a struggle

her reaction to being told "no you cannot break the law" was shocking

clearly, she had to regard for this Asian Businessman of the community

Oh I agree that her behaviour was shocking.

I just personally think if possible the security could force off the premises in a slightly more gentle way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh I agree that her behaviour was shocking.

I just personally think if possible the security could force off the premises in a slightly more gentle way.

its not security its the owner

fed up of scumbag entitled thieves robbing his family

[Redway]

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failing to blame a criminal shoplifter

race baiting

Just because Black Lives Matter shared this story doesn’t mean that the people protesting there were necessarily from the BLM recruit. Let’s not even get it twisted or do this racial clickbait thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just because Black Lives Matter shared this story doesn’t mean that the people protesting there were necessarily from the BLM recruit. Let’s not even get it twisted or do this racial clickbait thing.

how do you know that?

[Redway]

how do you know that?

Because I know Peckham and the sort of people it attracts when it comes to stuff like this. BLM couldn’t have less to do with it besides the fact that they happened to share this story. So did the BBC but as far as we know most of the protestors weren’t journalists or news reporters.

[arista]

Shoplifter and Gang.


Pathetic


GMBHD itv will debate it

[arista]

Why would she Not pay for the Goods?

[Redway]

We only know one side of the story, arista. I bet you were one of those people who were quick to accuse Naomi Oni of doing a Katie Piper when her ‘friend’ threw acid in her face, until the actual truth came out. You’re always quick to wade in and judge just to sound like a robot with a militant opinion. We’re only getting one side of the story.

[Redway]

Why would she Not pay for the Goods?

I heard that she was trying to get a refund on something. Not steal outright. We can’t be sure either way so I’m not getting involved but this man literally held her by the throat and might as well have choked her. That’s the one I’m reacting to. I don’t know why you think it’s defensible.

[Mystic Mock]

We only know one side of the story, arista. I bet you were one of those people who were quick to accuse Naomi Oni of doing a Katie Piper when her ‘friend’ threw acid in her face, until the actual truth came out. You’re always quick to wade in and judge just to sound like a robot with a militant opinion. We’re only getting one side of the story.

Someone got Acid thrown at them?

A truly evil act.

[UserSince2005]

It’s their right to take what ever they want given what the evil white man did to them, and continues to do to them.

[Livia]

She's a thief and a violent thug. I think the shopkeeper was remarkably restrained in the circumstances.

[arista]

She's a thief and a violent thug. I think the shopkeeper was remarkably restrained in the circumstances.


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[Livia]

I heard that she was trying to get a refund on something. Not steal outright. We can’t be sure either way so I’m not getting involved but this man literally held her by the throat and might as well have choked her. That’s the one I’m reacting to. I don’t know why you think it’s defensible.e



I heard she wanted a cash refund, was refused and offered alternative goods... She wanted cash so protested by trying to steal goods and leave.

Did you see her hitting and kicking him? He probably puts up with this behaviour regularly. Now a man's business is in tatters. I'm shocke d anyone thinks this woman was right.

[Cherie]

The photo of him with his hands on her throat are not a good look but are a snapshot of what happened, she is not entitled to take whatever she wants from any shop regardless of what has happened here, no shop HAS to give you a refund or replacement if there is nothing wrong with the original goods, he offered her a replacement which should have been good enough, now his business is ruined, I dont know how these protesters sleep at night, this is not a racial issue, its an issue between the shop owner and the customer and absolutely nothing to do with the protesters

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

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Thank you :worship:

[GiRTh]

This doesnt make sense. She was offered goods but wanted a refund so, instead of taking the goods she was offered, she forcefully took other goods. :conf:

I'm quite consistent on this kind of thing. If you go around looking for a fight eventually you will find one. Go around throwing hands you'll find someone who gonna throw some back.

As security for his shop he has the right to defend his store. I see nothing wrong with his actions

[GiRTh]

I'd like to go into the legality of not giving a refund. That is the store policy not law. If she demanded a refund he legally should have given her a refund.

[bots]

lot's of shops don't give refunds, particularly if the person doesn't have receipt of purchase. It's a common way to turn stolen goods into cash

[GiRTh]

lot's of shops don't give refunds, particularly if the person doesn't have receipt of purchase. It's a common way to turn stolen goods into cashThat is not the law. The shop must offer a refund

https://www.gov.uk/accepting-returns-and-giving-refunds.

[bots]

When you do not have to offer a refund
You do not have to refund a customer if they:

knew an item was faulty when they bought it
damaged an item by trying to repair it themselves or getting someone else to do it (though they may still have the right to a repair, replacement or partial refund)
no longer want an item (for example because it’s the wrong size or colour) unless they bought it without seeing it

Proof of purchase
You can ask the customer for proof that they bought an item from you. This could be a sales receipt or other evidence such as a bank statement or packaging.

[Crimson Dynamo]

refund or not you dont take armfulls of stuff you have not paid for a leave the shop and then attack people physically who rightfully try to stop you thieving

[GiRTh]

When you do not have to offer a refund
You do not have to refund a customer if they:

knew an item was faulty when they bought it
damaged an item by trying to repair it themselves or getting someone else to do it (though they may still have the right to a repair, replacement or partial refund)
no longer want an item (for example because it’s the wrong size or colour) unless they bought it without seeing it

Proof of purchase
You can ask the customer for proof that they bought an item from you. This could be a sales receipt or other evidence such as a bank statement or packaging.I agree there must be some sort of proof of purchase but other than that a store cannot refuse to give a refund if there are genuine issues with the product purchased.

[Cherie]

This has been on the Martin Money show, its a common misconception you can just claim a refund, a shop does not have to unless the goods are faulty

Your legal rights to a refund
The Consumer Rights Act 2015 and the Consumer Contracts Regulations are the two pieces of legislation that set refund rights for consumers. The main points and rights conferred include:

You have 30 days to return faulty goods and receive a full refund
You’re entitled to ask for a refund or price reduction after one failed attempt by the retailer to repair or replace a faulty item. Or you can request another repair or price reduction at no extra cost
No deductions can be made from a refund within the first six months after purchase, except for motor vehicles.

[Cherie]

refund or not you dont take armfulls of stuff you have not paid for a leave the shop and then attack people physically who rightfully try to stop you thieving

exactly, what is going on with people these days

[Cherie]

That is not the law. The shop must offer a refund

https://www.gov.uk/accepting-returns-and-giving-refunds.

Only if it was faulty, there is no evidence to say she was returning faulty goods, she just changed her mind

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[GiRTh]

Only if it was faulty, there is no evidence to say she was returning faulty goods, she just changed her mindI agree there must be some sort of proof of purchase but other than that a store cannot refuse to give a refund if there are genuine issues with the product purchased.:thumbs:

[Swan]

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Imagine having to put up with that sort of thing just trying to earn an honest living, everyday not knowing what unreasonable crap you're going to face. All their stock getting destroyed too.

It's a sad state of affairs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine having to put up with that sort of thing just trying to earn an honest living, everyday not knowing what unreasonable crap you're going to face. All their stock getting destroyed too.

It's a sad state of affairs.

young girls showing fearful levels of aggression

where is that coming from?

[Cherie]

Imagine having to put up with that sort of thing just trying to earn an honest living, everyday not knowing what unreasonable crap you're going to face. All their stock getting destroyed too.

It's a sad state of affairs.

feral

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[Cherie]

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Its actually disgusting that no one has the balls to stand up and say the protests are wrong and it a matter between the shop owner, the police and the woman

[Mystic Mock]

The problem with some of the BLM crowd is that because they have been unfairly persecuted in other situations, some of them have now got it in their head that they're always the victim, even when really in some cases they're the aggressor, like this particular situation.

[Redway]

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I heard she wanted a cash refund, was refused and offered alternative goods... She wanted cash so protested by trying to steal goods and leave.

Did you see her hitting and kicking him? He probably puts up with this behaviour regularly. Now a man's business is in tatters. I'm shocke d anyone thinks this woman was right.

I just don’t think we know enough about her side of the story for me to comment on whether she was in the right and I’m definitely not saying she was but what we do know is he literally had his arms around her throat. To me there’s no defending that. Her side of the story is mostly based on conflicting hearsay so I don’t know what to think or believe. Including whether or not she acted in retaliation and was defending herself in the first place. So I dunno.

[Mystic Mock]

I just don’t think we know enough about her side of the story for me to comment on whether she was in the right and I’m definitely not saying she was but what we do know is he literally had his arms around her throat. To me there’s no defending that. Her side of the story is mostly based on conflicting hearsay so I don’t know what to think or believe. Including whether or not she acted in retaliation and was defending herself in the first place. So I dunno.

Oh I agree that he should never have had his hands around her throat, unless she was threatening his life in some way, which I don't think that she was.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just don’t think we know enough about her side of the story for me to comment on whether she was in the right and I’m definitely not saying she was but what we do know is he literally had his arms around her throat. To me there’s no defending that. Her side of the story is mostly based on conflicting hearsay so I don’t know what to think or believe. Including whether or not she acted in retaliation and was defending herself in the first place. So I dunno.

here she is the other day.....:whistle:

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[arista]

The Fella that tried to stop the thief
is no longer working there
he fears for his safety.

BLM are out to attack him.


Ref: All media

[Cherie]

The Fella that tried to stop the thief
is no longer working there
he fears for his safety.

BLM are out to attack him.


Ref: All media

So man tries to stop thief and loses his job....what a time to be alive

[Alf]

Here is a real racist.


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[Cherie]

Here is a real racist.


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That worked so well for Peckham Cosmetics or does she mean don’t put money into brown business it’s so hard to keep up ....Is there no one on the forum who can explain this latest development ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here is a real racist.


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poor education and a platform is a really bad look

[Cherie]

Where are the posters who are usually so concerned about brown people .....they seem to have stuck their heads in the sand ...not like they have not been posting elsewhere :skull:

[Mystic Mock]

Pend it like Peckham

[Mystic Mock]

Seriously though racism does seem to be getting more and more common nowadays.

And honestly I would rather us focus on the Government than on each other's melanin.

[Swan]

Where are the posters who are usually so concerned about brown people .....they seem to have stuck their heads in the sand ...not like they have not been posting elsewhere :skull:

Yeah i wonder?! You know they'd be straight in had the shop owner been white.

[Cherie]

Yeah i wonder?! You know they'd be straight in had the shop owner been white.

I can’t make sense of it :laugh:

[Cherie]

Seriously though racism does seem to be getting more and more common nowadays.

And honestly I would rather us focus on the Government than on each other's melanin.

THAt would be nice but us honkeys are baaaaaaaaaad

[Mystic Mock]

THAt would be nice but us honkeys are baaaaaaaaaad

At least you're starting to understand.

[Cherie]

At least you're starting to understand.

Can you explain what you personally have done to impact a brown/black persons life in a negative way? I assume you have given your comment personally I live and let live and vica verca

[Mystic Mock]

Can you explain what you personally have done to impact a brown/black persons life in a negative way? I assume you have given your comment personally I live and let live and vica verca

Nothing.

Unfortunately though some people don't judge people as individuals, hence why every older white male gets depicted like Donald Trump by TV Writers, because they know that there's a market in society for negative stereotypes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

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Only a matter of time before that comes here