Merseyside: School bus overturns 'with a number of casualties' 2 Deaths

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/merseyside-school-bus-overturns-after-m53-motorway-crash-12972220


This was at 8AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/29/10/75969433-12574485-image-m-20_1695978191369.jpg


[Merseyside: School bus overturns
'with a number of casualties'
after M53 motorway crash.
There are "a number of casualties" after a
school bus overturned in a crash on a motorway
in Merseyside, authorities have said.
Calday Grange Grammar School confirmed
one of its coaches was involved in the
incident on the M53.]

7 mins ago


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/29/09/75968825-12574485-image-a-1_1695976956167.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12574485/Coach-flips-crash-M53-rush-hour-fears-school-bus-involved.html

[Cherie]

Hope they are all okay

[arista]

Was the Driver speeding?

[Zizu]

Was the Driver speeding?


Or texting ..


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[arista]

Or texting ..




Yes,
I hope the Police find out

[Cherie]

clipped the reservation so cant have been paying attention

[AnnieK]

Blimey - hope all ok.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/29/10/75970239-0-image-m-10_1695979720179.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12574485/Coach-flips-crash-M53-rush-hour-fears-school-bus-involved.html


One Female badly injured.


[So far, one female patient has been taken
to the hospital, suffering major trauma-related injuries.
There are also nearly 50 other patients being
assessed at the scene.
We are working closely with our incident partners to
convey people away from the scene as
quickly as possible.']

[bots]

the driver and a 14 year old girl have died

[UserSince2005]

They died this is really sad

[user104658]

the driver and a 14 year old girl have died

My (literal) worst nightmare.

And as the driver has died, it's unlikely it'll ever be known what actually happened. From the description to me it sounds like they might have dozed off.

[bots]

My (literal) worst nightmare.

And as the driver has died, it's unlikely it'll ever be known what actually happened. From the description to me it sounds like they might have dozed off.

he may have had a heart attack or something too

[rusticgal]

he may have had a heart attack or something too

Most likely...

[user104658]

he may have had a heart attack or something too

Maybe, I think that would show up in autopsy at least. I say "at least" because it's good for people in the long run to at least have some explanation of what happened... it obviously doesn't really change anything in the short term.

[bots]

whats unusual is that early reports only talked about 1 serious injury, which kind of implies that the driver was dead at the scene, which leads to the possibility that they had a medical emergency that caused it.

I don't know a lot about modern buses, but do they not have lane correction built in, like most modern cars?

[Cherie]

Awful news, but it is likely he had some kind of medical episode that killed him

[arista]

Terrible
was he OK to drive the bus
Was his Manager aware of his health?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/29/14/75979061-0-image-m-19_1695994892386.jpg

[user104658]

whats unusual is that early reports only talked about 1 serious injury, which kind of implies that the driver was dead at the scene, which leads to the possibility that they had a medical emergency that caused it.

I don't know a lot about modern buses, but do they not have lane correction built in, like most modern cars?

AFAIK a lot of them are only audible warnings they don't actually correct automatically (and even those with steering correction can usually be set to a warning mode optionally)... the technology is still new-ish as standard too, if the bus was more than a couple of years old it might not have had lane assist of any kind.

[MTVN]

That is awful. I feared there'd be deaths if a coach like that overturns at motorway speeds, hopefully everyone else is okay

[arista]

That is awful. I feared there'd be deaths if a coach like that overturns at motorway speeds, hopefully everyone else is okay

Yes big old bus
needs a alert driver

[user104658]

That is awful. I feared there'd be deaths if a coach like that overturns at motorway speeds, hopefully everyone else is okay

They all require seatbelts these days and obviously people are supposed to wear them but it's impossible to enforce, and a lot (most) people just don't. My daughter (13 at the time) went to London late last year, 12+ hour coach motorway journey, and I was watching the "trip tracker" app and *****ing my pants the entire bloody time. She was of course sending videos of her and her friends enjoying the trip, eating their service station snacks, playing games... not one of them wearing a seatbelt. Terrifying and devastating in the event of a crash.

[MTVN]

They all require seatbelts these days and obviously people are supposed to wear them but it's impossible to enforce, and a lot (most) people just don't. My daughter (13 at the time) went to London late last year, 12+ hour coach motorway journey, and I was watching the "trip tracker" app and *****ing my pants the entire bloody time. She was of course sending videos of her and her friends enjoying the trip, eating their service station snacks, playing games... not one of them wearing a seatbelt. Terrifying and devastating in the event of a crash.

Yeah I was thinking that with the seatbelts. I never remember wearing them on a school trip and you'd also often have people moving around and going between the seats and stuff like that

[arista]

That's a old type Bus in the photos

Saving the Manager alot of Cash.

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Daily Mirror devotes its front page to
the tragic death of Jessica Barker, 15, i
n a Merseyside school bus crash.
The teenager and the driver of the coach were
killed when the vehicle overturned on the M53.]

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[Mystic Mock]

the driver and a 14 year old girl have died

That's terrible.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/29/22/75997689-12576845-image-a-4_1696023447291.jpg
[Mr Shrimpton, 40 was driving a coach of more than
50 students when it crashed with a car and flipped
onto its side in Hooton, Cheshire, at 8.30am]


Was the Car at fault?

[Redway]

Yes big old bus
needs a alert driver

You don’t know that he wasn’t alert.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/29/21/75994495-12576845-image-a-1_1696018143468.jpg
[The teenage girl who tragically died
in a school bus crash on the M53 yesterday morning has
been named as 15-year-old Jessica Baker]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12578061/M53-crash-bus-driver-Stephen-Shrimpton-widow-children.html

[arista]

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