Angela Rayner … thoughts on this young lady ..

[Zizu]

Angela Rayner … fresh out of the kitchen :)

Says ….

The next Labour government will make misogyny a ‘hate crime’

Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner has pledged that the next Labour government will make misogyny a 'hate crime'.
Speaking at the annual Labour Women's Conference in Liverpool, the British politician began off by saying, "Let’s face it – sometimes it’s tiring being a woman in this world, especially under a Tory Government!"


Politics aside … what are your thoughts on this individual ?


I really can’t take to her .. I find her abrasive and completely unlikable


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[joeysteele]

She's very good to talk to.
I like her actually.
You really do feel you can talk to her when you meet her and she's not dismissive of you.
She does seem genuinely interested in you and what you think.


However she can be very careless in speeches.
Plus makes ridiculous comments too often.

[Oliver_W]

The next Labour government will make misogyny a ‘hate crime’



Isn't that just twisting words?

Adding sex into hate crime legislation Isn't the worst idea tbh. Beliefs such as religion or gender identity are, so why aren't realities like sex?

[The Slim Reaper]

She's a coward. Talks a good game at times, then gets any policy she has put forward to be wiped out by the lord of the realm, as she stands there in silence

A careerist who is more interested in keeping her job (which she will lose at the first opportunity after the election), than fighting for the things she pretends to care about.

[Oliver_W]

However she can be very careless in speeches.
Plus makes ridiculous comments too often.
My only real problem with her calling the Tories "scum" was that she basically handed the tabloids a headline, and everything else she said was ignored or overlooked.

[The Slim Reaper]

My only real problem with her calling the Tories "scum" was that she basically handed the tabloids a headline, and everything else she said was ignored or overlooked.

The one time she has been right and taken a stand :joker:

[Oliver_W]

The one time she has been right and taken a stand :joker:

:hehe:

[bots]

she rubs me up the wrong way so i basically never listen to a word she says. I also believe that she harms her chosen causes more than she helps them

[joeysteele]

she rubs me up the wrong way so i basically never listen to a word she says. I also believe that she harms her chosen causes more than she helps them

There is a fair base to your last point there.
I have to agree with that.

[Zizu]

She's very good to talk to.
I like her actually.
You really do feel you can talk to her when you meet her and she's not dismissive of you.
She does seem genuinely interested in you and what you think.


However she can be very careless in speeches.
Plus makes ridiculous comments too often.


That last part is a red flag for a leading politician


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[Gusto Brunt]

She should be the Labour leader. She has passion and a will that Starmer will never have.

That said, her grammar is awful. :p

[Lewis.]

I think she comes across as relatable and down to earth. Yes, a little abrasive and more 'common' than the usual politician in the language she uses, which can sometimes come across as unprofessional - but I think she's going to be a good weapon to stir up younger voters.

Whether you like it or not, politics is about personality over policy now, and she stands out as a figurehead in the Labour party on that front.

[Livia]

I think she's a disgrace.

[OnTheRight]

A horrid woman.

[Oliver_W]

thoughts on this young lady

Might there be a word in that sentence you want to have another run at?

[Crimson Dynamo]

bitter and nasty woman

[joeysteele]

Well if she gets hard-line Cons really hating her, she's maybe got a fair bit going for her after all.
I find her very amiable personally.

Politically a bit worrying as to what she'll come out with or say.
( That was oddly admired by Cons as to Johnson).

She would however be perhaps a better prospect with Labour than Starmer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Livia]

After Jo Cox was murdered and there were calls to curb the language MPs used about each other, she instantly referred to the Tories as "scum".

[bots]

i really can't comment because i just don't listen to her. If she is on a channel i am watching, i switch channels immediately

[Zizu]

The gift that just keeps giving

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[Zizu]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

So, Rayner buys a house on Vicarage Road

She marries and - as this document shows - changes her primary address to be
Lowndes Lane, her husband’s house

5 years later she sells her house on Vicarage Road. For a profit which, as it
wasn’t her primary address, should’ve been taxable.

But she avoided paying tax by claiming Vicarage Road *was* her primary
address. But according to this document, it wasn’t.

So did she lie on the document? Or is she lying now?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHXbqPIXQAEyIGH?format=jpg&name=small


(info published by Guido Fawks)

[Zizu]

So, Rayner buys a house on Vicarage Road

She marries and - as this document shows - changes her primary address to be
Lowndes Lane, her husband’s house

5 years later she sells her house on Vicarage Road. For a profit which, as it
wasn’t her primary address, should’ve been taxable.

But she avoided paying tax by claiming Vicarage Road *was* her primary
address. But according to this document, it wasn’t.

So did she lie on the document? Or is she lying now?

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(info published by Guido Fawks)


She’s a politician so a liar by default/definition


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[Cherie]

These people honestly they make me sick, she has clearly been dodgy here, just own up and pay your capital gains tax

[Zizu]

Where to begin

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[hijaxers]

Where to begin

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Yeah thats a case of Don't even ask :joker::joker: only a red nose required there

[Beso]

Sexier than nicola sturgeon.

[LaLaLand]

Love her. Queen Ange!

[Livia]

Sexier than nicola sturgeon.

That's quite a low bar though, Parm...

[GiRTh]

I can hear her stylist now - "Your red hair nicely compliment the green pyjamas. "

Has no one told her - Red and green should never be seen. :joker:

[Beso]

That's quite a low bar though, Parm...

Ok..sorry.


Sexier than alex Salmond.. but not as sexy as carol vorderman.


Those are my parameters.:blush:

Atm, she sits just below elton john.

[Zizu]

Ok..sorry.


Sexier than alex Salmond.. but not as sexy as carol vorderman.


Those are my parameters.:blush:

Atm, she sits just below elton john.


Carol Vorderman is laughable …

She launched a vicious, personal attack on Nadine Dorries but only when she had left the studio LOL

She was on C4 politics show last night ..

Very gobby .. she claimed she was being ‘real’ whilst sat there with her facelift , hair extensions, fake huge boobs .

She practically recreated herself physically after being ousted by the all natural , perfect Rachel Riley


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[UserSince2005]

Spreads her legs like a hussy in parliament to distract the opposition.

[Mystic Mock]

Where to begin

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What is that outfit?:joker:

I know that it's not a fashion contest, but it looks like the outfit is absorbing her body.

[Kazanne]

I can never take to her, something I cant put my finger on.

[Kazanne]

What is that outfit?:joker:

I know that it's not a fashion contest, but it looks like the outfit is absorbing her body.

I know Mock,it was bloody awful,:wavey:

[joeysteele]

What is that outfit?:joker:

I know that it's not a fashion contest, but it looks like the outfit is absorbing her body.

I think she'd just got up and had to hurry to Downing street :joker:

I've been campaigning with her a fair bit in this election however and she's great fun to have around.
Always supporting the teams and making sure you had all you needed.
Fully appreciating all our efforts.
More importantly making sure we took breaks.

I've really come to like her a lot more in this campaign.
I love how she talks TO you not AT you.
I think she gets a lot of grossly unfair criticism personally.
Although admittedly she doesn't think at times on what she says too.

[bots]

I really can't believe i am the one saying give labour a chance :laugh:

We will know soon enough if people aren't up to scratch and then we will have something genuine to moan about

[Cherie]

Yeah absolutely lets see how it goes, cant be any worse can it?

[Zizu]

Yeah absolutely lets see how it goes, cant be any worse can it?


Maybe …


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[The Slim Reaper]

Bit distasteful to keep going on about and after the same group of women tbh.

I can't stand Rayner for what she represents within the lab party, but once I've made that statement, i don't need to keep posting about her and making threads about her.

[AnnieK]

I honestly couldn't care less about what she wears. It's how they run things that matter not what they look like whilst they are doing it.

[Zizu]

I honestly couldn't care less about what she wears. It's how they run things that matter not what they look like whilst they are doing it.


We shall soon see what she’s made of


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[Ammi]

…just staying on the aspect of Angela’s outfit, I thought the choice of designers was really interesting this week with both she and Victoria Starmer choosing the same designer of Me+Em../…a British brand that promotes a tag of ‘social responsibility’ and sustainability…which is such a contrast to the Saville Row ‘elitist’ style of Rishi Sunak…:laugh:…I think a ‘Labour Party statement’ was intended and a statement was made…I like the style of the designer…it looks like a very comfortable and easy to wear, functional trouser suit and represent s the brand very well…poor Angela, she can’t win …too tight/too short with added leg crossing to too loose and not ‘shapely’ enough …i do like the trouser suit, I have to say…and I like that she dresses for herself and has great individuality…hopefully that will transfer to her politics also…

[Zizu]

…just staying on the aspect of Angela’s outfit, I thought the choice of designers was really interesting this week with both she and Victoria Starmer choosing the same designer of Me+Em../…a British brand that promotes a tag of ‘social responsibility’ and sustainability…which is such a contrast to the Saville Row entitlement style of Rishi Sunak…:laugh:…I think a ‘Labour Party statement’ was intended and a statement was made…I like the style of the designer…it looks like a very comfortable and easy to wear, functional trouser suit and represent s the brand very well…poor Angela, she can’t win …too tight/too short with added leg crossing to too loose and not ‘shapely’ enough …i do like the trouser suit, I have to say…and I like that she dresses for herself and has great individuality…hopefully that will transfer to her politics also…


When she has her legs out ( often ) she just comes across as rough and desperate.. yesterdays outfit suggests that she’s clueless

She hasn’t even explained the council house quandary yet ..


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[The Slim Reaper]

When she has her legs out ( often ) she just comes across as rough and desperate.. yesterdays outfit suggests that she’s clueless

She hasn’t even explained the council house quandary yet ..


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This post isn't it, zeez.

[Ammi]

When she has her legs out ( often ) she just comes across as rough and desperate.. yesterdays outfit suggests that she’s clueless

She hasn’t even explained the council house quandary yet ..


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…to me, her outfit this week suggests that she’s supporting a brand that have a great style and comfort, which Victoria Starmer is also supporting …your own interpretation is your own interpretation and reflects only and simply that and not in any way that someone is ‘clueless’ because they choose to dress for themselves/their own comfort and what they feel represents themselves in how they project themselves etc…

[Oliver_W]

Does it matter if she looks like she borrowed her dad's suit?

[joeysteele]

…just staying on the aspect of Angela’s outfit, I thought the choice of designers was really interesting this week with both she and Victoria Starmer choosing the same designer of Me+Em../…a British brand that promotes a tag of ‘social responsibility’ and sustainability…which is such a contrast to the Saville Row ‘elitist’ style of Rishi Sunak…:laugh:…I think a ‘Labour Party statement’ was intended and a statement was made…I like the style of the designer…it looks like a very comfortable and easy to wear, functional trouser suit and represent s the brand very well…poor Angela, she can’t win …too tight/too short with added leg crossing to too loose and not ‘shapely’ enough …i do like the trouser suit, I have to say…and I like that she dresses for herself and has great individuality…hopefully that will transfer to her politics also…

No, she can never win with some Ammi.

No matter what she says, in fact doesn't even say, does or doesn't do, nor what she wears now either.

It seems some just like to target her personally for some reason.
I think she now finds it humerous when she comes across it.
It's become something she now just sadly expects so just takes it.

[AnnieK]

Why do we only ever criticise the women's clothes? There are plenty of men with questionable ill fitting suits. It's actually pathetic that this thread is filled with people criticising what a woman is wearing.

[The Slim Reaper]

As others have mentioned.

[Zizu]

Why do we only ever criticise the women's clothes? There are plenty of men with questionable ill fitting suits. It's actually pathetic that this thread is filled with people criticising what a woman is wearing.


Everyone gets criticised

Sunak and Boris continually


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[GoldHeart]

Everyone gets criticised

Sunak and Boris continually


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Boris' hair alone lol

[The Slim Reaper]

Everyone gets criticised

Sunak and Boris continually


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[Zizu]

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I don’t believe Boris said that at all


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[The Slim Reaper]

I don’t believe Boris said that at all


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That's the issue you have with that meme? :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

What was she wearing yesterday.

I can't believe any woman has such poor taste?

[Livia]

To use a phrase she's used herself, I think she's scum.

[Zizu]

To use a phrase she's used herself, I think she's scum.


Yes that’s my stance as well

I think she’s a very unpleasant individual and one I find to be extremely irritating


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[Zizu]

That's the issue you have with that meme? :laugh:


Yep


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[Zizu]

What was she wearing yesterday.

I can't believe any woman has such poor taste?


She probably dresses herself but she’s too vain to wear glasses


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[joeysteele]

Why do we only ever criticise the women's clothes? There are plenty of men with questionable ill fitting suits. It's actually pathetic that this thread is filled with people criticising what a woman is wearing.

Absolutely.
It's unnecessary really.

I'd like to apologise, because you and Ammi have made me think hard.

I said in a joke fashion, in response to Mock, that she'd just got up and had to get to Downing street.
I said that and won't delete it as I said it so won't be hypocritical.
I only meant it a joke it was never serious.

Having campaigned with her recently, it would have been something I'd have said to her directly then and I know she'd have laughed at it too.

However it's sad I did say it and it's here among the horrible other acidic attacking her in the main more ONLY because she's Labour.
Had she been a Conservative, little to nothing would have likely been said negatively.

So I apologise.
At 32 years of age, I should know and act much better.
Women MPs, along with male ones too, already get more than enough nastiness directed at them personally.

[Oliver_W]

Why do we only ever criticise the women's clothes? There are plenty of men with questionable ill fitting suits. It's actually pathetic that this thread is filled with people criticising what a woman is wearing.

Plenty of males in politics have had their clothes and/or appearances mocked.

Boris was always mocked for looking scruffy, people talk about Michael Fabricant's wig hair, Jeremy Corbyn's "I just slept under a bridge" style, Jacob Rees Mogg for looking like a Victorian spectre, Farage for looking like a gargoyle...

But in general, male politicians general wear nondescript suits and ties, no-one really notices what they have on unless it looks different in some way.

[Mystic Mock]

I know Mock,it was bloody awful,:wavey:

Well when a non-fashionable person such as myself is questioning your dress sense, you know that there's something wrong.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I think she'd just got up and had to hurry to Downing street :joker:

I've been campaigning with her a fair bit in this election however and she's great fun to have around.
Always supporting the teams and making sure you had all you needed.
Fully appreciating all our efforts.
More importantly making sure we took breaks.

I've really come to like her a lot more in this campaign.
I love how she talks TO you not AT you.
I think she gets a lot of grossly unfair criticism personally.
Although admittedly she doesn't think at times on what she says too.

Tbf I don't have anything personal against Angela Rayner, she seems like she has her own mind, which I respect personally.

And if she's treating people that she's talking to like they're Human Beings, then that's a step up from half of the Politicians that we usually see.

[Mystic Mock]

…just staying on the aspect of Angela’s outfit, I thought the choice of designers was really interesting this week with both she and Victoria Starmer choosing the same designer of Me+Em../…a British brand that promotes a tag of ‘social responsibility’ and sustainability…which is such a contrast to the Saville Row ‘elitist’ style of Rishi Sunak…:laugh:…I think a ‘Labour Party statement’ was intended and a statement was made…I like the style of the designer…it looks like a very comfortable and easy to wear, functional trouser suit and represent s the brand very well…poor Angela, she can’t win …too tight/too short with added leg crossing to too loose and not ‘shapely’ enough …i do like the trouser suit, I have to say…and I like that she dresses for herself and has great individuality…hopefully that will transfer to her politics also…

There's nothing wrong with the BIB.:evilgrin:

I'll stop now.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Does it matter if she looks like she borrowed her dad's suit?

:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Absolutely.
It's unnecessary really.

I'd like to apologise, because you and Ammi have made me think hard.

I said in a joke fashion, in response to Mock, that she'd just got up and had to get to Downing street.
I said that and won't delete it as I said it so won't be hypocritical.
I only meant it a joke it was never serious.

Having campaigned with her recently, it would have been something I'd have said to her directly then and I know she'd have laughed at it too.

However it's sad I did say it and it's here among the horrible other acidic attacking her in the main more ONLY because she's Labour.
Had she been a Conservative, little to nothing would have likely been said negatively.

So I apologise.
At 32 years of age, I should know and act much better.
Women MPs, along with male ones too, already get more than enough nastiness directed at them personally.

Tbf, you were only having a laugh.

I don't believe that you were holding any malice towards Rayner personally.

[joeysteele]

Tbf, you were only having a laugh.

I don't believe that you were holding any malice towards Rayner personally.

I couldn't hold malice against her because I have none Mock.

No, I regret the comment even as a joke.
All I've seen as to Angela is she's a decent person.
Even moreso after these weeks of campaigning where she was involved a good number of days in where my team was.

Thank you for that response but MPs have more than enough to deal with as to crazed nutcases threatening them as to harm and their lives.
Without nitpicking on what they wear etc; not nice.

[Mystic Mock]

I couldn't hold malice against her because I have none Mock.

No, I regret the comment even as a joke.
All I've seen as to Angela is she's a decent person.
Even moreso after these weeks of campaigning where she was involved a good number of days in where my team was.

Thank you for that response but MPs have more than enough to deal with as to crazed nutcases threatening them as to harm and their lives.
Without nitpicking on what they wear etc; not nice.

Fair enough.

I think that there's nothing wrong with a few jokes here or there personally, but I do understand where you're coming from.

[Zizu]

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[Oliver_W]

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Do you think people who started poor have to act poor for the rest of their lives?

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you think people who started poor have to act poor for the rest of their lives?

I'd go one step further than that. Why is the expectation that working class people don't "deserve" nice things.

[Ammi]

…one of the things that the brand represents is ‘forever’ clothing and forever clothing will not be the same costing as high street ‘throw away prices’ …I’m glad that with this brand, sustainability is something which Angela and Victoria Starmer are supporting within the fashion/clothing industry…

[Ammi]

I'd go one step further than that. Why is the expectation that working class people don't "deserve" nice things.

…well…not Angela, anyway, hmmmm….

[The Slim Reaper]

…well…not Angela, anyway, hmmmm….

It goes beyond her, generally. Whenever benefits are discussed or anything along those lines, you can read the same stuff "well, they've got a flat screen TV" or every Christmas, the sun will write a piece about a mother on benefits buying her children ipads, as though they are expected to just sit and play with coal for the rest of their lives.

People are taught to look down at one rung of the ladder below, but be enthralled by those one rung above. It keeps everybody away from questioning where the money of this country is actually going.

[Zizu]

It goes beyond her, generally. Whenever benefits are discussed or anything along those lines, you can read the same stuff "well, they've got a flat screen TV" or every Christmas, the sun will write a piece about a mother on benefits buying her children ipads, as though they are expected to just sit and play with coal for the rest of their lives.

People are taught to look down at one rung of the ladder below, but be enthralled by those one rung above. It keeps everybody away from questioning where the money of this country is actually going.


I have seen countless clips and interviews and I just dislike pretty much everything about her .


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[The Slim Reaper]

I have seen countless clips and interviews and I just dislike pretty much everything about her .


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Which is fine. We all take a dislike to people for stupid reasons. Mine is Shaun Murphy the snooker player with his big massive head. He seems like a nice enough dude, but I can't stand him. Do you know what I do about it though? I Just forget about him. Maybe you should try to just forget about her rather than creating constant threads and posts about her. It comes across as a little creepy if I'm honest, and I know you're a good dude, who wouldn't want to appear that way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

rather than creating constant threads and posts about her..

Zizu has made one thread and this is it

[The Slim Reaper]

Zizu has made one thread and this is it

Absolutely no one was unaware of zizu's feelings towards Angela Rayner before yesterdays suit.

[Zizu]

Which is fine. We all take a dislike to people for stupid reasons. Mine is Shaun Murphy the snooker player with his big massive head. He seems like a nice enough dude, but I can't stand him. Do you know what I do about it though? I Just forget about him. Maybe you should try to just forget about her rather than creating constant threads and posts about her. It comes across as a little creepy if I'm honest, and I know you're a good dude, who wouldn't want to appear that way.


It’s not for STUPID reasons that I detest her

It’s also not her appearance that perturbs or disturbs me … its her personality and the way she presents herself and her general behaviour


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Absolutely no one was unaware of zizu's feelings towards Angela Rayner before yesterdays suit.

It worries me that the deputy PM could think that green abomination is suitable for any work scenario

its shows poor judgment

[Zizu]

It worries me that the deputy PM could think that green abomination is suitable for any work scenario

its shows poor judgment


Yep

I can see a pattern

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[Cherie]

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She earns her money so she can spend it how she likes, that said given she and Mrs Starmer wore outfits from the same designer I would hazard a guess they were freebies?

[Zizu]

She earns her money so she can spend it how she likes, that said given she and Mrs Starmer wore outfits from the same designer I would hazard a guess they were freebies?


I don’t care where the money/outfit came from
tbh

It looks dreadful and the fact that someone thought it was worth £550 is quite frankly laughable


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[joeysteele]

I don’t care where the money/outfit came from
tbh

It looks dreadful and the fact that someone thought it was worth £550 is quite frankly laughable


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Well no one is asking or expecting you to wear it.
Are they ?

[Zizu]

Well no one is asking or expecting you to wear it.
Are they ?


Well if they are then they are going to be disappointed then .. although I don’t see the relevance of your comment tbh


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[The Slim Reaper]

ZiTruth

[Beso]

Hopefully she wears it in the chambers to stop her hippo yawning.

[Zizu]

Hopefully she wears it in the chambers to stop her hippo yawning.


Fair point


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[Mystic Mock]

I don’t care where the money/outfit came from
tbh

It looks dreadful and the fact that someone thought it was worth £550 is quite frankly laughable


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I agree with you that the outfit is horrendous.

But I don't get why it's such a big deal, I mean it's a bad looking outfit, but she's not harming anyone with it.:laugh:

[Ammi]

She earns her money so she can spend it how she likes, that said given she and Mrs Starmer wore outfits from the same designer I would hazard a guess they were freebies?

…I would say that’s very possible also/that some outfits were gifted by the designer to some of the senior Labour representatives and Victoria Starmer…the green trouser suit is one of three outfits that Angela has worn recently by that same brand….and the brand founder has links to the Labour Party, I believe…

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[bots]

when you wear an unusual outfit in a high profile public situation, you are making a statement and that invites people to comment on it be it good or bad.

It's really no different to wearing an outfit to the oscars or the horse racing

[Ammi]

…wearing a green trouser suit, which is perfectly classical in style is not what I would call in any way an unusual outfit, so no…I can’t say that would apply at all as oppose to an outfit that could be felt to be worn to provoke attention…unless the colour green has become a very controversial colour in some way…

[bots]

…wearing a green trouser suit, which is perfectly classical in style is not what I would call in any way an unusual outfit, so no…I can’t say that would apply at all as oppose to an outfit that could be felt to be worn to provoke attention…unless the colour green has become a very controversial colour in some way…

So you don't think the clown style pants were unusual? :laugh: Anyway, it's the public that decide if it's unusual .... and clearly some did

[Ammi]

So you don't think the clown style pants were unusual? :laugh: Anyway, it's the public that decide if it's unusual .... and clearly some did

…well then as you say, you would have to attach that ‘clown’ tag in the first place and I don’t, I don’t see anything clownish in any way about a green trouser suit of a classical fit, so I think personally that’s more about a judgement of Angela herself and how she’s not doing right for doing wrong, type thing…even in how she dresses…and so far as I can see, the brand gets praise from many and her choice is being complimented by many…it’s a very small amount of criticism I’ve seen, which is good…

[Ammi]

…and in this forum it has to be said, that it seems mostly male criticism of a female’s dress style, which is interesting…

[bots]

For me, it would have to be something really controversial to raise an eye brow. Having gone through many years as a student in my youth, i think i've seen it all in terms of fashion. Angela isn't even close to raising a twitch

[Zizu]

…and in this forum it has to be said, that it seems mostly male criticism of a female’s dress style, which is interesting…


Aren’t the majority of top female clothing designers … male ?


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[Zizu]

when you wear an unusual outfit in a high profile public situation, you are making a statement and that invites people to comment on it be it good or bad.

It's really no different to wearing an outfit to the oscars or the horse racing


Exactly


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[Ammi]

Aren’t the majority of top female clothing designers … male ?


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…not so far as I’m aware, they’re a blend of both male and female…as in many/if not most professions…


…in my own personal note/experience, though…males (and females…).. in the ready to wear female fashion industry tend to celebrate females, rather than pull them down with criticism…/hence their interest in fashion and style…

[Zizu]

…not so far as I’m aware, they’re a blend of both male and female…as in many/if not most professions…


…in my own personal note/experience, though…males (and females…).. in the ready to wear female fashion industry tend to celebrate females, rather than pull them down with criticism…/hence their interest in fashion and style…


I thought it was like chefs .. mainly guys


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[Ammi]

I thought it was like chefs .. mainly guys


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…a man’s world, eh…I honestly don’t know what else to say as you’re obviously very determined and focused in your dislike for Angela Rayner…which you’re entitled to have so I’ll just leave you to it as it isn’t a good vibe to spend too much time around…

[Zizu]

…a man’s world, eh…I honestly don’t know what else to say as you’re obviously very determined and focused in your dislike for Angela Rayner…which you’re entitled to have so I’ll just leave you to it as it isn’t a good vibe to spend too much time around…


Its true I find her utterly abhorrent


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[Cherie]

Wide legged trousers are very much in fashion at the moment guys

[AnnieK]

Wide legged trousers are very much in fashion at the moment guys

This.....not quite sure what the problem is. In a country that is on its knees, the cut of someone's suit is very low on the list of priorities :laugh:

[Cherie]

…I would say that’s very possible also/that some outfits were gifted by the designer to some of the senior Labour representatives and Victoria Starmer…the green trouser suit is one of three outfits that Angela has worn recently by that same brand….and the brand founder has links to the Labour Party, I believe…

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1pyQXd.img


https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1pyYim.img

Yes that is what I assumed they were both wearing a brand that were gifted to showcase the brand, we have only seen one not so flattering pic of Angela she may have looked super in it in other shots

[Cherie]

This.....not quite sure what the problem is. In a country that is on its knees, the cut of someone's suit is very low on the list of priorities :laugh:

Right, I hope we are not going to have 5 years of commenting on Angelas outfits ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wide legged trousers are very much in fashion at the moment guys

maybe if you are a 20 year old student :laugh:

[Ammi]

Its true I find her utterly abhorrent


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…which is very apparent, I feel… making a thread in the serious debate section which is obviously looking for ‘support’ in that dislike, offers nothing and is completely unnecessary in my opinion…women/females are constantly criticised in their appearance to a much different standard to males…and succeeding in what is still a ‘male world’ in politics and many other professions is tough enough without opening up mockery/ridicule about clothing items…anyway, I think that we understand the mindset of each other on this subject and as I say…I find it extremely unnecessary and distasteful but that’s on me, obviously as the forum has obviously deemed it to be an appropriate thread content…

[Ammi]

…oh btw, just out of interest …(…for any who may be interested..:laugh:…because fashion/style is my thing so I’m always interested…)…the brand has also been worn by Kate Middleton, who is also a fan of the comfortable/stylish and forever clothing line…

https://katemiddletonstyle.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/kate-middleton-chelsea-flower-show-pink-dress.jpg.webp


…but only Angela is really terrifically boosting their interest/sales, apparently…:love:…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Now there is a lady who knows how to dress with style

[Zizu]

Wide legged trousers are very much in fashion at the moment guys


Really ?

That’s the first pair I’ve seen in two decades

I would imagine that guys are happy enough with the current trend of leggings ..


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[Zizu]

…which is very apparent, I feel… making a thread in the serious debate section which is obviously looking for ‘support’ in that dislike, offers nothing and is completely unnecessary in my opinion…women/females are constantly criticised in their appearance to a much different standard to males…and succeeding in what is still a ‘male world’ in politics and many other professions is tough enough without opening up mockery/ridicule about clothing items…anyway, I think that we understand the mindset of each other on this subject and as I say…I find it extremely unnecessary and distasteful but that’s on me, obviously as the forum has obviously deemed it to be an appropriate thread content…


You are overthinking this ..

I just detest the woman and wondered if anyone else felt the same


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[Ammi]

You are overthinking this ..

I just detest the woman and wondered if anyone else felt the same


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…no I’m most definitely not over-thinking, I’m thinking in complete balance and without bias, which is very much against the vein and vibe of the thread intention …and yes, the thread is directed to garner mutual support in the dislike of someone which no rational/logical reasoning is being given for…so a very distasteful thread vein in my own humble opinion…

[Cherie]

Really ?

That’s the first pair I’ve seen in two decades

I would imagine that guys are happy enough with the current trend of leggings ..


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Legging are always in fashion they are not a current trend

[Cherie]

maybe if you are a 20 year old student :laugh:


No wide legged trousers can be worn across age groups and can be much more flattering than skinny trousers

I have a pair :fist:

[Ammi]

…whenever loose fitting and ‘baggy’/comfortable fit is showcased on the runway, it’s often showcased by super slim models…(…as many runway styles are…)…so it’s really lovely to see a non super slim person wearing the style and wearing it well imo…

[Ammi]

No wide legged trousers can be worn across age groups and can be much more flattering than skinny trousers

I have a pair :fist:

…I don’t like wearing wide legs personally, I have to say…I don’t find them ‘practical’ and comfortable because I’ve lost my footing a few times in getting my foot caught in the bagginess and large amount of fabric…they have been quite a challenging wear at times for me, personally…

[Cherie]

…I don’t like wearing wide legs personally, I have to say…I don’t find them ‘practical’ and comfortable because I’ve lost my footing a few times in getting my foot caught in the bagginess and large amount of fabric…they have been quite a challenging wear at times for me, personally…

Thats true I have done the same with a pair that are over long

[Cherie]

I wish I could find a better pic of her in the suit but that seems to be the only one available....

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have a pair :fist:

https://media.tenor.com/4btq4cqzLKYAAAAM/the-office.gif

[Niamh.]

I wish I could find a better pic of her in the suit but that seems to be the only one available....

I'm not sure which picture you are seeing (can't find it on the thread but this is a good picture

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1pyYil.img?w=750&h=750&m=6&x=181&y=73&s=52&d=52


Honestly don't get what all the fuss is about, looks fine to me :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wish I could find a better pic of her in the suit but that seems to be the only one available....

I found another

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR1dPxaagAAO0aD?format=png&name=small

[Zizu]

I wish I could find a better pic of her in the suit but that seems to be the only one available....


She could wear this one for PMQs given her antics in the past

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240708/5c1f5a730285fe3b9ff9bdafde50b5e6.jpg


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[Ammi]

I wish I could find a better pic of her in the suit but that seems to be the only one available....

…I think the posed/official one of her in the suit is really lovely and showcases the outfit very well…Flickr don’t allow pics to be copied so I don’t know if the link will show it…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/number10gov/53837205523/in/photostream/

[Ammi]

I'm not sure which picture you are seeing (can't find it on the thread but this is a good picture

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1pyYil.img?w=750&h=750&m=6&x=181&y=73&s=52&d=52


Honestly don't get what all the fuss is about, looks fine to me :shrug:

…yeah, I liked that one as well…the brand has said how much traffic they’re receiving atm and all down to leading Labour Party ladies highlighting them …and that’s all great for a British fashion brand who are all about sustainability and ‘forever’ garments…

[bots]

…I think the posed/official one of her in the suit is really lovely and showcases the outfit very well…Flickr don’t allow pics to be copied so I don’t know if the link will show it…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/number10gov/53837205523/in/photostream/

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/668805617541f54efe51ba67/s465_Angela_Rayner.jpg

[Ammi]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/668805617541f54efe51ba67/s465_Angela_Rayner.jpg

…that’s the one…very nice Angela pic…:love:…

[Ammi]

…bots showing he’s the owner of the Flickr site…

[Cherie]

Thanks all well there you go, had the suit been in navy or black no one would bat an eyelid, Angela has always had a quirky style and long may it last

[Ammi]

Thanks all well there you go, had the suit been in navy or black no one would bat an eyelid, Angela has always had a quirky style and long may it last

…that’s not really true though, as we know…and as Angela herself has commented in the past…’Judge my message not my outfit, says Angela Rayner amid crossing legs row’…/…media headline…

[bots]

i think a pair of bicycle clips would have set the outfit off nicely, but then i've never been a fashion guru :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Honestly don't get what all the fuss is about, looks fine to me :shrug:

Women can't just look fine, they have to look absolutely amazing all the time, or they're bad people.

Didn't you get that memo?!

[Mystic Mock]

…and in this forum it has to be said, that it seems mostly male criticism of a female’s dress style, which is interesting…

Personally speaking for myself, I would also laugh if Keir Starmer came out in an outfit like that too.:laugh:

For me I'm an equal opportunist.

[Niamh.]

Women can't just look fine, they have to look absolutely amazing all the time, or they're bad people.

Didn't you get that memo?!

Yes silly me :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Its true I find her utterly abhorrent


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What is the main thing that she's done that's made you dislike her so much?

I mean normally you save your negative opinions for Southgate, Eni Aluko, and Karen Carney.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

This.....not quite sure what the problem is. In a country that is on its knees, the cut of someone's suit is very low on the list of priorities :laugh:

Tbf this is the same country that had a meltdown at Sunak getting rained on and Ed Miliband struggling to eat a Bacon Sandwich.

We're not exactly a nation known to have normal opinions.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Right, I hope we are not going to have 5 years of commenting on Angelas outfits ...

Get prepared for the next five years.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

…oh btw, just out of interest …(…for any who may be interested..:laugh:…because fashion/style is my thing so I’m always interested…)…the brand has also been worn by Kate Middleton, who is also a fan of the comfortable/stylish and forever clothing line…

https://katemiddletonstyle.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/kate-middleton-chelsea-flower-show-pink-dress.jpg.webp


…but only Angela is really terrifically boosting their interest/sales, apparently…:love:…

I'm convinced that the shade of green that Angela is wearing is what's making it look odd to me.

Because the pink outfit on Kate looks better imo.

[Zizu]

What is the main thing that she's done that's made you dislike her so much?

I mean normally you save your negative opinions for Southgate, Eni Aluko, and Karen Carney.:joker:


Not quite true …


Esther Rantzen
Janet Street-Porter
Piers Morgan
Jeremy Kyle
Diane Abbott
Gemma Collins
Nigel Farage
Eamonn Holmes
Jonathan Ashworth
Mo Farah
Karen Carney
Eni Aluko


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[joeysteele]

…which is very apparent, I feel… making a thread in the serious debate section which is obviously looking for ‘support’ in that dislike, offers nothing and is completely unnecessary in my opinion…women/females are constantly criticised in their appearance to a much different standard to males…and succeeding in what is still a ‘male world’ in politics and many other professions is tough enough without opening up mockery/ridicule about clothing items…anyway, I think that we understand the mindset of each other on this subject and as I say…I find it extremely unnecessary and distasteful but that’s on me, obviously as the forum has obviously deemed it to be an appropriate thread content…

Absolutely right

The thread title conceals the real intent behind the making of it in the first place.
Which rather than gathering others views of Angela
Is only used to further ontinuously through the thread only reveal and post the personal detesting of the woman.
Of course the fact she's from Labour is another major factor.
IN MY VIEW.

[Zizu]

The thread title conceals the real intent behind the making of it in the first place.

Of course the fact she's from Labour is another major factor.
IN MY VIEW.


Well I have no political leanings sooooo

As regards the thread title - I think the thread title ‘does what it says on the tin’ to be perfectly honest


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[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240708/d07540307cff0157eacbee7ef9437895.jpg


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[Zizu]

https://x.com/DVATW/status/1810217581447372813


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[Mystic Mock]

Not quite true …


Esther Rantzen
Janet Street-Porter
Piers Morgan
Jeremy Kyle
Diane Abbott
Gemma Collins
Nigel Farage
Eamonn Holmes
Jonathan Ashworth
Mo Farah
Karen Carney
Eni Aluko


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I will 100% agree with you on those three.

I'm also not keen on Farage either, but the other three are really unlikable imo.

[Beso]

Complain away...feelings police.

I'm watching.