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MTVN
09-10-2023, 01:33 PM
Well that's the end of that speculation, good for her

Big Brother contestant Hallie has come out as transgender to her fellow housemates, admitting she felt she wasn't being 'authentic' by not telling them.

The youth worker, 18, was seen entering the show's famous house on ITV on Sunday night as the programme returned to British television after a five year hiatus.

She chose not to tell her fellow series contestants her story on the launch night but had a change of hear the following day.

In scenes set to air on ITV2 and ITVX on Monday night, the housemates will be seen gathered at the dining table discussing their living situation.

Hallie says: 'Hey guys, I just have something to say. Yesterday I feel like I wasn’t being 100% authentic in myself.'

She adds: 'I thought I’d let everyone know I’m trans, if you didn’t know already. I just thought I’d make that loud and clear. I’m a trans woman if you didn’t know.'

Hallie’s fellow housemates give her a hug, with Chanelle saying: 'Good for you. That’s very brave of you.”

As the housemates show their support to Hallie, Dylan says: 'This is a moment. I like it.'

Hallie says: 'I don’t know why I was nervous,' prompting Farida to say: 'You don’t need to be nervous.'

Trish tells Hallie: 'We’ve got you.'

Hallie is not the first transgender housemate to appear on Big Brother - trans woman Nadia Almada won the show in in 2004 and trans man Luke Anderson triumphed in 2012.

Full article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12610685/Big-Brothers-Hallie-comes-transgender.html?ico=mobile_puff_module^2

Livia
09-10-2023, 01:37 PM
My brother said this the minute she stepped out of the car. Having him be right is not a good precedent to set.....

Swan
09-10-2023, 01:38 PM
I honestly didn't notice at first, which is a "good" thing, right? I dunno how it all works. But the more i see her in the live feed and on the live and late show thing, it was becoming more obvious. Good luck to her.

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 01:46 PM
just the size lol was the giveaway - bit bad of BB to try and make it a guessing game - just be truthful and say

thesheriff443
09-10-2023, 01:47 PM
I knew last night, it was her voice that gave it away

madman411
09-10-2023, 01:50 PM
My mum called it during her VT.

caprimint
09-10-2023, 01:50 PM
I saw this on tattle last night, wouldn't really have known although after I found out I could see her face looks kinda manly and also she's insanely tall

Swan
09-10-2023, 01:53 PM
Also, for anyone in the know, would that explain her looking quite a bit older than 18? Maybe the hormones taken and medication during her transition?

Gusto Brunt
09-10-2023, 01:55 PM
As soon as I clocked Halle's height and build, I basically knew. She's about 6 feet 6 tall, and the voice is kinda deep.

Apart from that observation, it's her life. I just feel a bit sorry for her being so tall.

I wouldn't have suspected if she'd been 5 feet 8.

daniel-lewis-1985
09-10-2023, 01:55 PM
just the size lol was the giveaway - bit bad of BB to try and make it a guessing game - just be truthful and say

I think more than anything they were respectful and letting her tell her own story however she wanted.

It was far more respectful than the approach in BB5 when everyone was constantly wondering if Nadia was a man and when a housemate was evicted Davina would tell them just to get their reaction on tv.

Not to mention the amount of jokes made at Nadia's expense on the spin off show.

Gusto Brunt
09-10-2023, 02:05 PM
Being a bit crude, I wonder if she has had the op.

Down there.

I mean, her swimming pants might give it away but I've heard they use tape.

Stu
09-10-2023, 02:10 PM
I think more than anything they were respectful and letting her tell her own story however she wanted.

It was far more respectful than the approach in BB5 when everyone was constantly wondering if Nadia was a man and when a housemate was evicted Davina would tell them just to get their reaction on tv.

Not to mention the amount of jokes made at Nadia's expense on the spin off show.
Yeah knowing this now I'm impressed by how they handled it with total equality.

Had they led in with it during her entrance you would have had victims of identity politics getting in a tizzy that her inclusion was pure tokenism. They completely avoided that and she's in there on her own merit.

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 02:13 PM
Yeah knowing this now I'm impressed by how they handled it with total equality.

Had they led in with it during her entrance you would have had victims of identity politics getting in a tizzy that her inclusion was pure tokenism. They completely avoided that and she's in there on her own merit.

That is a good point tbf

It would have dominated things

BBDodge
09-10-2023, 02:17 PM
This is apparently Hallie when she was Harry:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5467571/Boy-13-needed-surgery-swallowing-magnetic-balls.html

joe199998293
09-10-2023, 02:27 PM
just the size lol was the giveaway - bit bad of BB to try and make it a guessing game - just be truthful and say

Yeah I wouldn't have noticed if she wasn't so tall.

I'm not sure I'd say it's bad of BB or that they're making it a guessing game, she just might not have wanted everyone to know straight away. I don't think I would at first, not until I've sussed everyone out

joe199998293
09-10-2023, 02:28 PM
I wonder what Harry's reaction was...

Babayaro.
09-10-2023, 02:34 PM
I always forget Luke A is trans

Babayaro.
09-10-2023, 02:36 PM
just the size lol was the giveaway - bit bad of BB to try and make it a guessing game - just be truthful and say

Tbf it would’ve been worse had BB revealed it to the audience before she did. I know that’s what happened with Nadia but that was way back in 2004, so

Niamh.
09-10-2023, 02:36 PM
I always forget Luke A is trans

I always forget LukeA actually won that series :laugh:

Babayaro.
09-10-2023, 02:39 PM
I always forget LukeA actually won that series :laugh:

Fair :joker: I liked him but it should’ve been Adam!

Niamh.
09-10-2023, 02:41 PM
Fair :joker: I liked him but it should’ve been Adam!

Adam or Deana

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 02:47 PM
so now noone is nominating Hallie

great

Beso
09-10-2023, 02:55 PM
I feel limp, and ashamed

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 03:00 PM
I feel limp, and ashamed

Its Nadia all over again with you Parmy, you were not to know

Ammi
09-10-2023, 03:03 PM
…the thing that I noticed more than anything else about her is just how warm and friendly and embracing she was to all of the other housemates…immediately welcoming them the most…a really heartwarming personality, I feel…🩷

蟠桃园 PanTaoYuan
09-10-2023, 04:16 PM
It never even crossed my mind when I first saw her. I just thought she was really tall.

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 04:18 PM
…the thing that I noticed more than anything else about her is just how warm and friendly and embracing she was to all of the other housemates…immediately welcoming them the most…a really heartwarming personality, I feel…🩷

they were all like that, its the first show :joker:

Nicky91
09-10-2023, 04:18 PM
winner confirmed me thinks

arista
09-10-2023, 04:43 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/09/14/76337909-12610685-image-a-48_1696856829017.jpg

Glenn.
09-10-2023, 04:44 PM
She’s very brave considering how toxic the trans debate has become today.

Oliver_W
09-10-2023, 04:45 PM
Being a bit crude, I wonder if she has had the op.

Down there.

I mean, her swimming pants might give it away but I've heard they use tape.

Doubt it at 18, I'd hope not though.

letmein
09-10-2023, 04:46 PM
I knew it from the minute I saw them.

rusticgal
09-10-2023, 04:50 PM
If it wasn't for her size and voice...I wouldn't have guessed.

rusticgal
09-10-2023, 04:51 PM
winner confirmed me thinks


Why?....she might have no personality :shrug:

AnnieK
09-10-2023, 04:52 PM
I didn't even think it until it was mentioned on here. I didn't realise how tall she was initially either

BBDodge
09-10-2023, 04:59 PM
Being a bit crude, I wonder if she has had the op.

Down there.

I mean, her swimming pants might give it away but I've heard they use tape.

You can have the op at 17 in England. From the looks of 13 year old Harry she was ready and willing to get things done ASAP. But fairly recent it would have been so still getting used to life as a woman (well any 18 year old would be but more so if you were a boy growing up).

Liam-
09-10-2023, 05:05 PM
Good for her, not easy to do given the current state of the hell holes that are the British media and political establishment at the moment

Elliot
09-10-2023, 05:06 PM
She’s very brave considering how toxic the trans debate has become today.

my thoughts exactly

Lostie!
09-10-2023, 05:08 PM
I'm pleased for her that she felt she could do this so soon and it's not bothering her throughout her stay now.

I liked her a lot last night, she seems to have a mature head on her shoulders.

Jay28jay2
09-10-2023, 05:10 PM
It's probably a stepping stone for society for it to not be mentioned straight away, like it shouldn't need to be said because it can cloud over some peoples first impressions of her. I like that they didn't tell us but it is sad that it had to become a guessing game for some people :/

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 05:15 PM
she’s very brave considering how toxic the trans debate has become today.

and the toxicity is all from the trans zealots

no where else

Lostie!
09-10-2023, 05:16 PM
and the toxicity is all from the trans zealots

no where else

Putting it in bold doesn't make it any less false

bots
09-10-2023, 05:19 PM
we should be at a point where we judge her on her entertainment value, the same as every other housemate. That's what i would like to see

Zizu
09-10-2023, 05:20 PM
Yeah I wouldn't have noticed if she wasn't so tall.

I'm not sure I'd say it's bad of BB or that they're making it a guessing game, she just might not have wanted everyone to know straight away. I don't think I would at first, not until I've sussed everyone out


Makes you wonder how the BB team didn’t realise .. the dots were there to join up plus I thought they did rigorous background checks ??


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Babayaro.
09-10-2023, 05:25 PM
Makes you wonder how the BB team didn’t realise .. the dots were there to join up plus I thought they did rigorous background checks ??


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What’s to say they didn’t already know? She may have told them during the audition process

Oliver_W
09-10-2023, 05:28 PM
They'd know from the medications she's on tbh, if nothing else. Women don't generally take T-blockers and estrogen, especially at 18.

Zizu
09-10-2023, 05:28 PM
What’s to say they didn’t already know? She may have told them during the audition process


They would have shouted it from the rafters wouldn’t they ??


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thesheriff443
09-10-2023, 05:29 PM
Makes you wonder how the BB team didn’t realise .. the dots were there to join up plus I thought they did rigorous background checks ??


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You clearly know nothing about the process
Of course they knew , but it’s the entertainment business,

thesheriff443
09-10-2023, 05:30 PM
we should be at a point where we judge her on her entertainment value, the same as every other housemate. That's what i would like to see

Most of us level headed people do that already

Swan
09-10-2023, 05:30 PM
They would have shouted it from the rafters wouldn’t they ??


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Not if Hallie didn't want it to be.

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 05:31 PM
I am quite sure that face-to-face it is pretty obvious but they correctly did not want to lead with it in case it dominated the intro show and said to Hallie its up to you how and when etc. Which is fair

AnnieK
09-10-2023, 05:34 PM
Maybe they felt it was her story to tell if she wanted to or not. We should be moved on enough now for it not to be a massive deal (wishful thinking maybe)

Cal.
09-10-2023, 05:37 PM
She looks like Anna Nicole Smith

Babayaro.
09-10-2023, 05:37 PM
They would have shouted it from the rafters wouldn’t they ??


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Nah I’d have been very surprised if they had. Especially with how much emphasis they have put on ‘be kind’ etc regarding no booing the housemates on launch, and to think twice about what you might post online. It would’ve been very hypocritical of them to then basically ‘out’ someone on national TV :laugh:

Jessica.
09-10-2023, 05:39 PM
She seems like a lovely girl. ��

Crimson Dynamo
09-10-2023, 05:48 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTf2CWLSuokgt8bV5QuoXZmESsvm6_8M cj5AhOesMrcIkL_f6FtaSoSs_OZ_TCIa1PFuWY&usqp=CAUhttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/09/14/76337909-12610685-image-a-48_1696856829017.jpg

GoldHeart
09-10-2023, 07:05 PM
I knew it from the minute I saw them.

I guessed it straight away aswell, if she's only 18 ....then transitioning must have happened very young.

Jayson
09-10-2023, 07:11 PM
edit: didn't realise this had already been posted

JoshBB
09-10-2023, 07:20 PM
Good on her, and so needed to have a trans woman in the house during the current political climate. I hope the strength of the social experiment is shown and she's able to change transphobic perceptions

Dogeatdog
09-10-2023, 07:40 PM
Well I’m glad she can feel like she can actually be herself now after telling the other housemates about this, I imagine it must’ve been a bit of a burden having to keep something that personal from people she could be living with for sometime so good on her.

On first impressions I didn’t actually think she was trans, that didn’t enter my mind at all last night. I only noticed that she seemed really tall and that she looked a lot older than 18 (I thought she looked early/ mid twenties).

Northern Monkey
09-10-2023, 08:02 PM
Well, I don’t think that was a surprise to anyone

Oliver_W
09-10-2023, 08:17 PM
It's good that she is, otherwise she'd leave the house to find that all the viewers thought she was a guy based on the way she looks :laugh:

bobnot
09-10-2023, 08:18 PM
She seems nice enough i wasn't sure about her to start with but we will see.

fitz2k2
09-10-2023, 11:35 PM
Well, I don’t think that was a surprise to anyone

It really wasn't. It just gave viewers a new fan favorite and def heading to finale night.

Zizu
09-10-2023, 11:42 PM
It really wasn't. It just gave viewers a new fan favorite and def heading to finale night.


Don’t see Halle being at all popular judging by the live feed ..

She literally offers nothing to the program apart from shouting random obscenities


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Swan
10-10-2023, 12:04 AM
Im just gonna say it, but i think Hallie is very attractive. I think she's the first trans person ive ever been attracted to.

Zizu
10-10-2023, 12:32 AM
Im just gonna say it, but i think Hallie is very attractive. I think she's the first person ive ever been attracted to.


Pity she’s nearly 7 foot tall with a potty mouth and really nothing interesting to say :)


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Swan
10-10-2023, 12:35 AM
Pity she’s nearly 7 foot tall with a potty mouth and really nothing interesting to say :)


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I just think she has a really pretty face.

Gotta admit Zizu, we both thought she was a biological woman when she first went into the house, VT etc.

Babayaro.
10-10-2023, 12:55 AM
Im just gonna say it, but i think Hallie is very attractive. I think she's the first person ive ever been attracted to.

The first ever?

Swan
10-10-2023, 01:02 AM
The first ever?

I mean trans woman lmao, it's late, im shattered, im gonna edit that post now though :joker:

Babayaro.
10-10-2023, 01:10 AM
I mean trans woman lmao, it's late, im shattered, im gonna edit that post now though :joker:

:joker:

thesheriff443
10-10-2023, 01:38 AM
Without being rude,she and a good few more are just shelf fillers
In every series we see this

letmein
10-10-2023, 07:11 AM
She looks like Anna Nicole Smith

Get some glasses.

Nicky91
10-10-2023, 07:18 AM
our Anna Nicole QUEEN not being forgotten after all these years :flutter: and yes Hallie kinda looks like her, although Anna was slightly prettier

Oliver_W
10-10-2023, 03:06 PM
Im just gonna say it, but i think Hallie is very attractive. I think she's the first trans person ive ever been attracted to.

Swan as a bisexual cougar?

Swan
10-10-2023, 03:15 PM
Swan as a bisexual cougar?

Exposed :hehe::smug:

Nah, i just think she has a pretty face.

Zizu
10-10-2023, 04:39 PM
I just think she has a really pretty face.

Gotta admit Zizu, we both thought she was a biological woman when she first went into the house, VT etc.


Yeah initially I wouldn’t have known until someone pointed out she looked about 7’ tall
:)


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UserSince2005
10-10-2023, 04:41 PM
Obviously knew from the second i saw her, but cute that she thought people were fooled.