Do you find Zak sexist?

[Benjamin]

Thoughts?

[Niamh.]

Yes

[Vanessa]

He's coming across horrendous!:shocked:

[AnnieK]

He has certainly come across that way

I think he thought he was being funny but he just came across as a nob

[Niamh.]

It's just an odd way to joke around

[Adamw92]

Not really, no. I don’t think it’s that deep but he could do with toning down when he’s being a wind up.

[Niamh.]

Not really, no. I don’t think it’s that deep but he could do with toning down when he’s being a wind up.

3 women say yes, 1 man says no :p

[jones89]

Nah, he’s jokes. If the same kinda stuff was said to a man it would be all good. Maybe because men don’t take things so seriously, i dunno, but that’s what i think :dance:

[Scarlett.]

I think so, he tried to play it off as a joke, but I think he kind of meant it

[Adamw92]

3 women say yes, 1 man says no :p

:shrug: would be boring if we all agreed I suppose.

[smudgie]

Nah, but he is a big wind up.

[Niamh.]

Nah, he’s jokes. If the same kinda stuff was said to a man it would be all good. Maybe because men don’t take things so seriously, i dunno, but that’s what i think :dance:

Or maybe men don't face sexism on the same level as women....

[GoldHeart]

I got the impression he was being a wind up merchant , but he was acting far too silly tonight. He's made a target for himself. So i guess he's going home next.

I find it laughable though .... hm's talking about him being 'fake' &
'game plans' , when a few of them are playing up to the camera's themselves. They should look in the mirror.

[Beso]

He actually looks like sid the sexist, so yeah.

[Swan]

I mean, i doubt he's truly a sexist guy, he idolises his mother. I think he was a bit misunderstood with it. Trish didn't help by trying to make a huge thing straight away. But then they're saying they're like brother and sister and wind each other up. Who knows.

[Strictly Jake]

No I think he was joking. But he has a passive aggressive smile that I don't trust

[Niamh.]

No I think he was joking. But he has a passive aggressive smile that I don't trust

The stuff he was saying to Noky while he was flirting with her was really weird

[Jackywilsh10]

Yes. And he’s boring. And he’s incredibly thick…

[Jemal]

He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea

[GoldHeart]

I think Zak was just acting a bit like a tool , probably spent too much time around Paul.

Have people forgotten Paul is the vulgar one with a not so pretty background ??, notice how quiet he was tonight. yet he made little comments about Zak.

oh FFS both Paul & Tom are getting to the final by being dull as dishwater :bored:. Neither have contributed anything worthwhile ... apart from talking crap tonight.

[Niamh.]

He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea

I would have thought he was sexist in 2003 too

[jones89]

I mean, i doubt he's truly a sexist guy, he idolises his mother. I think he was a bit misunderstood with it. Trish didn't help by trying to make a huge thing straight away. But then they're saying they're like brother and sister and wind each other up. Who knows.

Agree

[Redrose]

He's making me feel uncomfortable. Dish but can't take it.

[thesheriff443]

Was this Zak’s attempt to get airtime after seeing others play up to the camera
If it was it’s backfired terribly

[GoldHeart]

Was this Zak’s attempt to get airtime after seeing others play up to the camera
If it was it’s backfired terribly

Either way ... the whole thing was unnecessary .

[andybigbro]

I thought it was uncomfortable when he was telling Noky to sit and holding her down.

[thesheriff443]

Either way ... the whole thing was unnecessary .

Definitely but I don’t like Zak , I think he is a more animated version of paul

[Crimson Dynamo]

no

[Jemal]

I would have thought he was sexist in 2003 too

Someone who idolises his Mother like he does, gives you that impression over banter? Fair enough I guess

[andybigbro]

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

[GoldHeart]

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

I honestly think he's just a massive wind up ,and he jokes around too much. But tonight wasn't a good episode for him.

i think he might be a bit big headed with it .

Paul is the pig , he's just hiding it more... as he watches Zak crash and burn.

Tom is another weird one where he's boring AF, but he seems to enjoy the drama, he was trying to stir things with Jordan.

[andybigbro]

I’m not saying Zak is sexist, his behaviour was odd tonight. But I do think the argument that he loves his mum so can’t be sexist is flawed. :laugh:

[Jemal]

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

I mean I agree with that but the sample size or “evidence” for people making the decision that he’s sexist is pretty hilarious

[Niamh.]

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

Exactly.

[Swan]

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

It means he'll likely have a deep respect for women. After his mother being his hero!

[BBDodge]

He has a big ego.

[GoldHeart]

He has a big ego.

I still prefer him over Paul the dustbin.

[rusticgal]

He can be quite patronising….I think we need to keep an eye on him. I have liked him so far but I think the more comfortable he gets his true colours might emerge.

[rusticgal]

I still prefer him over Paul the dustbin.

Paul is a prat.

[Northern Monkey]

Well, i think everyone can be a little sexist at times, men and women. However, i don’t think he’s sexist in a malicious way, it all depends on context and intent. For me, he’s just a bellend who gets over excited.

[Babayaro.]

From that comment alone it’s hard to say he is point blank sexist, but was it a sexist joke? Yes. I do think it was pretty obvious he was saying it in jest and to be a wind up, but cmon man, read the room. He’s definitely shot himself in the foot as I can now see him being nominated for eviction this week.

[Babayaro.]

Also I felt like Trish was a liiiitle too keen to make into a huge thing lol

[Abra]

He confused me tonight. I was sure he was joking, but I still got a weird vibe from him.

[Mystic Mock]

He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea

Did he make a sexual comment?

[LemonJam]

Damn right he the sexiest x

[Garfie]

I got the impression he was being a wind up merchant , but he was acting far too silly tonight. He's made a target for himself. So i guess he's going home next.

I find it laughable though .... hm's talking about him being 'fake' &
'game plans' , when a few of them are playing up to the camera's themselves. They should look in the mirror.

He seemed to be in an irritable mood, and his wind-up seemed part jokey and part serious. I didn’t expect those comments because of the way he speaks about his Mum, the words he used to support and empower Yinrun and due to the thoughtful and considerate advice he offered Hallie to calm her tantrums. For these reasons, he doesn’t come across as sexist to me, but he was close to crossing a line during his wind-up.

I have to agree with you that the ‘fake’ accusations though - they were rather ironic, considering who made them!

[Alf]

Or maybe men don't face sexism on the same level as women....That's a bit of a sexist assumption.

Was Niamh being sexist in this thread? Shall I do a poll?

[Alf]

I thought it was uncomfortable when he was telling Noky to sit and holding her down.Was that after she was attempting to hit him in the bollox and before she threw some liquid on him?

[Niamh.]

Damn right he the sexiest x:laugh2:

[GoldHeart]

Was that after she was attempting to hit him in the bollox and before she threw some liquid on him?

Yeah she gave as good as she got .

[Ammi]

He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea

…I think that BB in 2023 is an excellent idea, goddamnit…:laugh:…but yeah, I do think it’s always been a great platform to open up any talking points…with social media influences etc, though…it can be more of a ‘labelling’ society, rather than talking and discussing…so I completely understand what you mean….labelling has been …(imo….)…such a regression because it immediately closes down….

…I like Zak and I’m going to hold back on any casual sexism he may have displayed because I feel that it was more a thoughtless remark in the moment…I saw it all, the Zak, what on Earth were you thinking-gate, mentioned on something as…oh his true colours etc…this is the real Zak…!!!…and that always makes me cringe in that there are always lots of aspects and layers to people..that one thing doesn’t change any of his positives, you know…it’s that we’re seeing different aspects to people….

…what I found more interesting was that Zak feels that his relationship with Trish is quite brother/sister and winding up but affectionate, type thing…but I’m not entirely sure that that’s a mutual thing because Trish did throw that label, did she…?….quite quickly so the understanding/friendship between them doesn’t seem to concur….and those boundaries do have to be established is another thing …if for instance, of something being perceived and received in the same vibe as it was said…

[Zizu]

…

I think that BB in 2023 is an excellent idea, goddamnit…:laugh:…but yeah, I do think it’s always been a great platform to open up any talking points…with social media influences etc, though…it can be more of a ‘labelling’ society, rather than talking and discussing…so I completely understand what you mean….labelling has been …(imo….)…such a regression because it immediately closes down….

……

It’s kinda like a LGBT+ Big Brother really …

Even the supposedly macho one , Paul said he used to wear makeup and dress in girls clothes when he was young ..


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[fruit_cake]

ngl I was horrified what I saw re: Noky.. I thought that was borderline assault and while Kerry and Olivia were laughing uncomfortably, I'm really not sure what Noky thought the poor girl had only walked past

[caprimint]

I think he's sexist and unaware of it, the fact he just said it so simply until Trish called him out was shocking. I think he's one of those "the man is in control" kinda guys :yuk:

[Niamh.]

I think he's sexist and unaware of it, the fact he just said it so simply until Trish called him out was shocking. I think he's one of those "the man is in control" kinda guys :yuk:

Yep, that's definitely the vibe I got last night too from him

[OnTheRight]

Absolutely not.

[Dogeatdog]

Yh I mean the comments he made did come across to me as sexist. I think he said it as a joke but he ended up making himself look like a complete div and tbh I think he knew this himself especially when he had that little pop at Trish which turned out to be banter apparently?

I do feel like Zak wears a smile like a mask in there quite a lot and soon enough his true personality will come through.

I find it laughable though .... hm's talking about him being 'fake' &
'game plans' , when a few of them are playing up to the camera's themselves. They should look in the mirror.

I kinda get why people might find him fake but what made me laugh the most were the people who was discussing this which was Kerry and Hallie. To me they’ve been the fakest housemates so far and have definitely been playing up to the cameras.

I don’t think he has a game plan because (and not in a nasty way) but I don’t think he has the intelligence to have one especially if he’s blurting out sexist comments within the first 2 weeks.

[GoldHeart]

Yh I mean the comments he made did come across to me as sexist. I think he said it as a joke but he ended up making himself look like a complete div and tbh I think he knew this himself especially when he had that little pop at Trish which turned out to be banter apparently?

I do feel like Zak wears a smile like a mask in there quite a lot and soon enough his true personality will come through.



I kinda get why people might find him fake but what made me laugh the most were the people who was discussing this which was Kerry and Hallie. To me they’ve been the fakest housemates so far and have definitely been playing up to the cameras.

I don’t think he has a game plan because (and not in a nasty way) but I don’t think he has the intelligence to have one especially if he’s blurting out sexist comments within the first 2 weeks.

Exactly my thinking aswell , it would be a very strange game plan.

And when he was talking to Noky in the garden, he was saying he thinks they'll both last a few more weeks. I don't think he thinks he's going to win.

It will be interesting to see how he acts tonight.

[Dogeatdog]

Exactly my thinking aswell , it would be a very strange game plan.

And when he was talking to Noky in the garden, he was saying he thinks they'll both last a few more weeks. I don't think he thinks he's going to win.

It will be interesting to see how he acts tonight.

I think he’s right, I reckon they’ll be in there for a few more weeks but I don’t either of them will win tbh.

Tbh (and I’m just speaking hypothetically here) I wouldn’t be surprised if he apologises about it in front of everyone and then Hallie makes a comment about it to Kerry being fake or some sort of game playing tactic. It would be very ironic especially as it’s something that Hallie has already done herself.

[GoldHeart]

I think he’s right, I reckon they’ll be in there for a few more weeks but I don’t either of them will win tbh.

Tbh (and I’m just speaking hypothetically here) I wouldn’t be surprised if he apologises about it in front of everyone and then Hallie makes a comment about it to Kerry being fake or some sort of game playing tactic. It would be very ironic especially as it’s something that Hallie has already done herself.

I think he'll apologise aswell.

I got a little annoyed with Zak in the CEO task ,when it felt like he was trying to be rebellious and show off. But I wonder if he just enjoys misbehaving for whatever reason , whether it's boredom, or insecurity or ADHD.... I've no idea ( I'm not diagnosing him lol)...but I wouldn't be surprised if he was ADHD.

And I agree .....Hailie will accept his apology to his face ,and then run to her surrogate mother Kerry to have a sour bitch about him.

[Vanessa]

I think he's a wind up merchant. Not goodif you're in the House. It will make you an easy target.

[GoldHeart]

I think he's a wind up merchant. Not goodif you're in the House. It will make you an easy target.

Lewis G flashbacks , hopefully Zak won't get as bad as that though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think he is sexist per say

He just doesn't value women very much

[Beso]

ngl I was horrified what I saw re: Noky.. I thought that was borderline assault and while Kerry and Olivia were laughing uncomfortably, I'm really not sure what Noky thought the poor girl had only walked past

What part was borderline assault?