Matty the undoing of Jordan?

[Benjamin]

I fear this is now Jordan’s downfall.

[Kate!]

I'm enjoying Jordan less with Matty.

[bots]

i'm not sure what is going on there. Matty was dishing out some real evil dagger stares

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Yes! Jordan is like a different person around Matty. Matty's weirdness is rubbing off on him

[smudgie]

Gone off Jordan.
Jordan loves only Jordan and will use anyone else to get to the final.

[Kate!]

i'm not sure what is going on there. Matty was dishing out some real evil dagger stares

At Henry?

[Vanessa]

He hasn't done anything wrong. I still like him.

[joeysteele]

It isn't changing my view of Jordan at all.

Anyhow I've kind of warmed to Matty a bit in recent highlights.

[MTVN]

Yes but the blame is all on Jordan for it imo, he's instigating the flirting a lot more than Matty is

[Vanessa]

It isn't changing my view of Jordan at all.

Anyhow I've kind of warmed to Matty a bit in recent highlights.

Same. Matty is alright.

[Ammi]

…hmmmm, I’m not sure if he’ll have an undoing, he’s still one of my favourites…but he’s beginning to show quite a strong dislike for Noki and that’s not a good look for him…

[Vanessa]

…hmmmm, I’m not sure if he’ll have an undoing, he’s still one of my favourites…but he’s beginning to show quite a strong dislike for Noki and that’s not a good look for him…

He doesn't think she's genuine. And I have to agree with that.

[bots]

Jordan is giving off misogynistic vibes, that will be his undoing if it continues

[joeysteele]

He doesn't think she's genuine. And I have to agree with that.

Yeah I don't think she is either.
I don't really like Noki from what I've watched.

[Vanessa]

Yeah I don't think she is either.
I don't really like Noki from what I've watched.

She's obviously a nice person.
But I think she over exaggerates her reactions.

[Cherie]

Gone off Jordan.
Jordan loves only Jordan and will use anyone else to get to the final.

Correct....

[Crimson Dynamo]

both are tragic wet weekends really dragging down the series to a niche audience

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah I don't think she is either.
I don't really like Noki from what I've watched.

have to agree Joey

[Ammi]

He doesn't think she's genuine. And I have to agree with that.

…hmmm, I’m not sure, Vanessa…it has the vibe of him holding on the something quite negative…but we’ll see, I’ll bow to your BB wisdom for the moment…

[rusticgal]

I’m finding Matty a bit too creepy…

[Vanessa]

…hmmm, I’m not sure, Vanessa…it has the vibe of him holding on the something quite negative…but we’ll see, I’ll bow to your BB wisdom for the moment…

At the moment she's my last favourite female. I just find her really bland and I don't find her genuine.

[rusticgal]

Yes but the blame is all on Jordan for it imo, he's instigating the flirting a lot more than Matty is


I see it the other way around…Matty follows Jordan everywhere from what I see…

[Vanessa]

I see it the other way around…Matty follows Jordan everywhere from what I see…
Henry looked jealous, bless him..

[Benjamin]

Henry looked jealous, bless him..

I’d say more dejected.

[rusticgal]

He doesn't think she's genuine. And I have to agree with that.


I think she’s quite genuine…but as Zak said in the studio…no one saw their connection.

[Vanessa]

I think she’s quite genuine…but as Zak said in the studio…no one saw their connection.
Mmm, we will have to agree to disagree on this.
I find that she over exaggerates her reactions.

[Zizu]

I'm enjoying Jordan less with Matty.


I don’t like or trust Matty at all


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[Zizu]

Yes but the blame is all on Jordan for it imo, he's instigating the flirting a lot more than Matty is


Not really … Matty is very flirtatious in the live feed


Last night Matty was urging / encouraging Jordan to ask Trish to move beds so Matty could sleep next to Jordan


Thankfully neither Jordan nor Trish wanted to do the swap


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[Zizu]

…hmmmm, I’m not sure if he’ll have an undoing, he’s still one of my favourites…but he’s beginning to show quite a strong dislike for Noki and that’s not a good look for him…


Hopefully they can reconcile their differences over the coming days


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[Zizu]

I’m finding Matty a bit too creepy…


Yeah .., not liking him at all ..
I pity his patients !!


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[MTVN]

Not really … Matty is very flirtatious in the live feed


Last night Matty was urging / encouraging Jordan to ask Trish to move beds so Matty could sleep next to Jordan


Thankfully neither Jordan nor Trish wanted to do the swap


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I see it the other way around…Matty follows Jordan everywhere from what I see…

Interesting, Jordan is far more keen from what I've seen and is often getting touchy and showering Matty with compliments that he doesn't reciprocate

I think Matty will put a stop to it tbh because Jordan wants something that he doesn't

[thesheriff443]

Jordan is leading matty on but when matty wants to take it further Jordan pulls away
And this has been repeating itself

Jordan will pay the price if he starts a showmance or if he continues with the hot cold routine

[Zizu]

Interesting, Jordan is far more keen from what I've seen and is often getting touchy and showering Matty with compliments that he doesn't reciprocate

I think Matty will put a stop to it tbh because Jordan wants something that he doesn't


I think it’s the other way around ..


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[Zizu]

QUOTE=thesheriff443

Jordan is leading matty on but when matty wants to take it further Jordan pulls away
And this has been repeating itself


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Yeah I can kinda see that


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[Crimson Dynamo]

It's worrying that this is main storyline

2 very unpopular housemates

[Zizu]

It's worrying that this is main storyline

2 very unpopular housemates


Jordan is the most popular .

Matty is just trying to get close to the potential winner


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[PoppyC]

Their relationship is quite odd. Sometimes they like each other, sometimes one likes the other but it's not reciprocated.

I wonder if one or both of them likes the idea of a showmance for whatever reason, but they don't actually like each other all that much so there's always an element of holding back.

Or maybe they don't want to commit fully until they're sure they're not pairing up with someone unpopular

[Abra]

I still like Jordan so far but it's quite stark how much colder he's became with Henry since he got put up for eviction, but maybe he's just trying to put Henry off because he senses that he fancies him

[GoldHeart]

I fear this is now Jordan’s downfall.

No sympathy for Jordan now , he's acting too silly now for my liking :rolleyes: .

[Redrose]

He's not even explaining why this will be Jordan's downfall. What's he doing wrong? Henry's is not his bf. He can flirt and be with whoever he wants.

[letmein]

Yes! Jordan is like a different person around Matty. Matty's weirdness is rubbing off on him

What’s weird about Matty?

[Vanessa]

For me he's doing nothing wrong. So I'm still supportive him.

[Zizu]

What’s weird about Matty?


What’s NOT weird about him ?

Call me old fashioned but I’d want my doctor to be mature , level headed and grounded .

Matty is almost infantile when I’ve watched him in the live stream , then running around with that green coloured soft toy .. pretending it’s talking , having it communicating with the other housemates.. and he’s all over the place the rest of the time .


Then he laughingly told Jordan that he’s open to have a serious chat about things

( I took that to be about their up and down relationship)
.

I don’t really care too much for men behaving over effeminately either but that’s another conversation



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[Zizu]

Their relationship is quite odd. Sometimes they like each other, sometimes one likes the other but it's not reciprocated.

I wonder if one or both of them likes the idea of a showmance for whatever reason, but they don't actually like each other all that much so there's always an element of holding back.

Or maybe they don't want to commit fully until they're sure they're not pairing up with someone unpopular


From all the hours watching the live feed I know that it’s Matty chasing ( literally) Jordan..

Then Matty played hard to get ( went quiet and ignored Jordan ) .. that’s when Jordan appeared to be doing the chasing .. as he was trying to get Matty’s attention.

Anyway their relationship seems to be cooling now and Jordan is back spending more time with Henry and Trish ( and Yinrun)


Last night Jordan was talking with Trish. .. asking her why Matty was staring at him every time he glanced across at him - they had a discussion about it and it was obviously unsettling Jordan

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[Redrose]

What’s weird about Matty?

Nothing at all. I love how unapologetically gay he is. Too many Mary Whitehouse's in this world. Pearl-clutching prudes. Benjamin is just a massive Henry fan that's all it comes down to. Why should Jordan be forced to like him in that way?

[Benjamin]

Nothing at all. I love how unapologetically gay he is. Too many Mary Whitehouse's in this world. Pearl-clutching prudes. Benjamin is just a massive Henry fan that's all it comes down to. Why should Jordan be forced to like him in that way?

I never said it was Matty in the wrong, I like Matty. But I think he’ll be the undoing of Jordan as this weird relationship they have seems to be not doing Jordan any favours with popularity.

[Redrose]

I never said it was Matty in the wrong, I like Matty. But I think he’ll be the undoing of Jordan as this weird relationship they have seems to be not doing Jordan any favours with popularity.

What's weird about it?

[bots]

Matty is quite odd with his way too long stares and the general vibe that he could never actively practice as a registered doctor, i don't know who he is trying to kid. Jordan has always given me serial killer vibes, he isn't all there in my opinion

[Redrose]

Matty is quite odd with his way too long stares and the general vibe that he could never actively practice as a registered doctor, i don't know who he is trying to kid. Jordan has always given me serial killer vibes, he isn't all there in my opinion

Saying he has serial killer vibes is messed up.

[bots]

Saying he has serial killer vibes is messed up.

i'm just saying what i think

[Benjamin]

What's weird about it?

It’s weird in the sense it’s hard to tell what’s going on and if it’s genuine.

[Redrose]

It’s weird in the sense it’s hard to tell what’s going on and if it’s genuine.

Benjamin, I'm happy that you unblocked me I'm sorry if I said anything that would upset you or cause offence. You don't have to forgive me or even like me but I just wanted to apologise. If Jordan doing it because he knows it's upsetting Henry that would be a very cruel thing to do.

[Benjamin]

Benjamin, I'm happy that you unblocked me I'm sorry if I said anything that would upset you or cause offence. You don't have to forgive me or even like me but I just wanted to apologise. If Jordan doing it because he knows it's upsetting Henry that would be a very cruel thing to do.

It’s ok, just don’t throw insults if someone disagrees with you and we’ll be fine. It’s okay to disagree on things/housemates.

I just can’t work out this relationship between Matty and Jordan. I feel like they’re both instigating something then reigning it in. Either way it’s already started to become the undoing of Jordan’s popularity. Hopefully it’s not too late for it to be saved as I’d hate for Jordan to be evicted soon.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes! Jordan is like a different person around Matty. Matty's weirdness is rubbing off on him

Or maybe we've never seen the real Jordan before. Now we are.

Jordan was saying Matty keeps looking at him, but hours before he was tucking Matty's teddy bear into bed. :rolleyes: Jordan is always tarting with Matty.

I've never liked Jordan. He's boring beyond belief and his 'sense of humour'. I've yet to see any humour.

I hope Matty and Jordan kiss or do something like that. We'll finally see the end of the lionization of Jordan. :joker:

[Zizu]

Matty is quite odd with his way too long stares and the general vibe that he could never actively practice as a registered doctor, i don't know who he is trying to kid. Jordan has always given me serial killer vibes, he isn't all there in my opinion


I think Jordan is playing with everyone’s minds and emotions ..

I include the other housemates , the viewers and us lot !!

I thinking he’s made up this character to appeal to the masses ..

As to the serial killer ‘look’ .. he can’t help looking like that proper oddball ..

Gary Numan :)

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[Zizu]

Benjamin, I'm happy that you unblocked me I'm sorry if I said anything that would upset you or cause offence. You don't have to forgive me or even like me but I just wanted to apologise. If Jordan doing it because he knows it's upsetting Henry that would be a very cruel thing to do.


I don’t like the way that Henry has been marginalised by Jordan but I honestly don’t think Jordan is thinking straight since Matty started flirting with him and playing mind games ( ignoring Jordan and being distant)

I think Jordan HAD a plan and it was working wonderfully well and he was happy being the pied piper of his gang of 4 but Matty has wormed himself into the group , kinda pushing Henry out to the margins . Then as soon as he felt comfortable in the gang of 5 Matty targeted Jordan .. why I don’t know ?!?

Maybe it’s genuine and he’s actually fascinated by Jordan ( like thousands seem to be )


Then again I think it’s likely (given Matty has a partner on the outside ) that Matty is being strategic ..

I think Matty has sussed out that as ( nearly) everyone in the house either loves or likes Jordan then there’s a good chance that he will also be popular with the viewers . So he’s attaching himself to a big character


Classic Big Brother strategy


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[Ammi]

It’s ok, just don’t throw insults if someone disagrees with you and we’ll be fine. It’s okay to disagree on things/housemates.

I just can’t work out this relationship between Matty and Jordan. I feel like they’re both instigating something then reigning it in. Either way it’s already started to become the undoing of Jordan’s popularity. Hopefully it’s not too late for it to be saved as I’d hate for Jordan to be evicted soon.

…yeah it feels a bit….hmmm, just awkward…in that I’m not sure what spark of attraction there is in any romantic way..?…it feels all quite ‘considered’ as well, in that maybe they’re both considering if and how any type of romantic coupling would be viewed from the outside…so they’re considering their own experiences and goals etc in the house and very cautious about taking it off course with something that could get a bit messy and impact their time in there…

[Zizu]

Or maybe we've never seen the real Jordan before. Now we are.

Jordan was saying Matty keeps looking at him, but hours before he was tucking Matty's teddy bear into bed. :rolleyes: Jordan is always tarting with Matty.

I've never liked Jordan. He's boring beyond belief and his 'sense of humour'. I've yet to see any humour.

I hope Matty and Jordan kiss or do something like that. We'll finally see the end of the lionization of Jordan. :joker:


I think Matty has burnt his bridges with Jordan .. I think he managed to get Jordan’s attention/ interest for a few days but he pushed too hard and wanted too much of Jordan’s time and energy.

Jordan is a tad selfish / self centred ( I guess we all are to a point ) though and I think he now feels more comfortable back in the cosy relationship with Henry , Trish and Yinrun.


I think that Matty will want to remain in the gang buf will end up hanging with Yinrun as she’s an easy target and pretty naive .

I can still see Matty playing with Jordan’s emotions though as it is a pressure cooker environment in there


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[Zizu]

…yeah it feels a bit….hmmm, just awkward…in that I’m not sure what spark of attraction there is in any romantic way..?…it feels all quite ‘considered’ as well, in that maybe they’re both considering if and how any type of romantic coupling would be viewed from the outside…so they’re considering their own experiences and goals etc in the house and very cautious about taking it off course with something that could get a bit messy and impact their time in there…


This exactly ^

That’s what I was trying to say but you said it so much better

:)


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[Zizu]

It’s ok, just don’t throw insults if someone disagrees with you and we’ll be fine. It’s okay to disagree on things/housemates.

I just can’t work out this relationship between Matty and Jordan. I feel like they’re both instigating something then reigning it in. Either way it’s already started to become the undoing of Jordan’s popularity. Hopefully it’s not too late for it to be saved as I’d hate for Jordan to be evicted soon.


This ^


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[Ammi]

…also, Jordan has that already ‘complicated layer’ of his close friendship with Henry and Henry has referred to him as his husband on occasions…so he’ll be very aware that any close attachment to Matty might also be seen as a rejection of Henry …and might have a very negative impact for him…hes already seen Henry survive an eviction so would be very uncertain and questioning of Henry’s popularity with the public etc ….I’m not sure about about Matty but I don’t get the feel that Jordan is spontaneous in character …but very considered and thought filled…

[Ammi]

…just going off topic, though…Jordan changing his shirt to go to bed and ‘going to bed in his suit…’…:laugh:…

[Zizu]

…just going off topic, though…Jordan changing his shirt to go to bed and ‘going to bed in his suit…’…:laugh:…


I think I’d stay fully dressed if Matty was hovering around at bedtime

:)

Seriously though , I don’t think Matty respects personal space boundaries especially as he keeps mentioning his open relationship and he seemed very erratic / heightened at times last night





I reckon Matty’s attention has seriously spooked Jordan


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[Vanessa]

…just going off topic, though…Jordan changing his shirt to go to bed and ‘going to bed in his suit…’…:laugh:…

And this is why I love him. He makes me smile :joker:

[Vanessa]

…yeah it feels a bit….hmmm, just awkward…in that I’m not sure what spark of attraction there is in any romantic way..?…it feels all quite ‘considered’ as well, in that maybe they’re both considering if and how any type of romantic coupling would be viewed from the outside…so they’re considering their own experiences and goals etc in the house and very cautious about taking it off course with something that could get a bit messy and impact their time in there…

It's very on and off. I think they're both aware that it could get messy.

[Zizu]

Just found these comments online


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Jordan knows Matty has a BF, has an open relationship but other connections he makes are for casual sex only. He's been seen and heard telling himself to steer clear but keeps gravitating towards Matty. Recipe for disaster.

I think Jordan has become quite emotionally attached to Matty, and I don't think he can help it. He seems to be trying not to, but it's happening anyway.
I do feel sorry for Henry though; if Jordan does know how Henry sees him (in that environment), he's being a bit insensitive. He went from awkwardly flirting with Matty to hugging Henry in bed.

I think Henry brings a lot more to the table than is immediately apparent. How he uses that to his advantage, if at all, remains to be seen.

Jordan looked like a loner in there at the start, Henry befriended him and that became 'a connection' with low key admittance of attraction on Henry's part. That welcoming conviviality and conversation that the duo created attracted the other outsiders like Trish and eventually Matty despite their political differences which I think is a testament to how comfortable/safe other housemates feel in their company. I think Jordan is too aloof to have created this group of misfits on his own. Yinrun told us her boyfriend was concerned she would feel lonely in the house and Henry made sure she didn't - which is why Yinrun was so upset when he was nominated. Henry is the glue and steadying force of the Mezzanine Misfits and more of a key player now for several housemates. That power has increased further now he's survived an eviction.

I don't think Jordan moved swiftly on to Matty, I think that was trickery of the edit. I think Jordan sees him as no more than a future hook up whereas he has affection for Henry but not attraction. That bundling hug he gave Henry after he survived his eviction was quite telling and quite unlike Jordan. But Jordan has to manage these feelings amidst a gameshow based on scrutiny, loyalty and judgement. It will be interesting to see how he handles this with weeks to go.


I feel like Matty is playing a game a little. All that glaring at a photo in the bath stuff was purely for camera.


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[Liam-]

Absolutely, it seems like he’s starting to crack, being actually, quite unpleasant about Noky getting emotional while a little bit earlier getting arsey about people trying to police his emotions and the entire thing with Matty is just cringey, I don’t buy it for a single second from either sides

[GoldHeart]

Absolutely, it seems like he’s starting to crack, being actually, quite unpleasant about Noky getting emotional while a little bit earlier getting arsey about people trying to police his emotions and the entire thing with Matty is just cringey, I don’t buy it for a single second from either sides

Yeah I don't know why he has it in for Noky....when it was obvious she was close to Zak.

Jordan is stringing both Matty & Henry along , definitely not genuine.

[Zizu]

Yeah I don't know why he has it in for Noky....when it was obvious she was close to Zak.

Jordan is stringing both Matty & Henry along , definitely not genuine.


Maybe it’s like Zac said last night ..

The edit hasn’t shown how close he was to Noky so maybe Jordan and his crew have also missed them bonding as the gang were keeping to themselves and weren’t mingling as much as they have the last day or so


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[rusticgal]

Maybe it’s like Zac said last night ..

The edit hasn’t shown how close he was to Noky so maybe Jordan and his crew have also missed them bonding as the gang were keeping to themselves and weren’t mingling as much as they have the last day or so


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Yes he did say that nobody really saw them…

[Vanessa]

Noky wont go even if she's up anyway. There's zero chance of that.