The roughshodding of Kerry.

[Beso]

How many times can they influence the opinions of other hms by allowing them to hear chants from the outside!

How many times can they make it quickest to the diary room, then if by some miracle kerry makes it there first, they then go and make it a get out of bed at 4.30 without anyone hearing you reversing your buggy. Then, then crawl on your hands and knees through a ten foot tunnel that's barely wide enough to accommodate Trishs booty.

And now comes the bad mouthing panel on the afrershitshow to nail the final nail in her coffin.


What a load of fixed bollocks.

[Cherie]

Some good points there tbf Parm

[Benjamin]

How many times can they influence the opinions of other hms by allowing them to hear chants from the outside!

How many times can they make it quickest to the diary room, then if by some miracle kerry makes it there first, they then go and make it a get out of bed at 4.30 without anyone hearing you reversing your buggy

And now comes the bad mouthing panel on the afrershitshow to nail the final nail in her coffin.


What a load of fixed bollocks.

I think Olivia is in danger. A lot of people voting her over the other two as they’ll be up in the next noms anyway.

[Glenn.]

Kerry is an awful person

[GoldHeart]

I think Olivia is in danger. A lot of people voting her over the other two as they’ll be up in the next noms anyway.

I think Kerry is going , but the vote was that quick .. that maybe anyone could go ...even Dylan .

I would prefer Olivia but Kerry can go aswell . I voted Kerry as i thought Olivia would be a wasted vote.

[Benjamin]

I think Kerry is going , but the vote was that quick .. that maybe anyone could go ...even Dylan .

I would prefer Olivia but Kerry can go aswell . I voted Kerry as i thought Olivia would be a wasted vote.

Olivia had a bad edit tonight and last night which may have cost her.

[bots]

Olivia had a dreadful edit yesterday, and a bad one tonight. I think she will be gone

[GoldHeart]

Olivia had a bad edit tonight and last night which may have cost her.

I bet she's still safe, i think more people want Kerry out .

[rusticgal]

I bet she's still safe, i think more people want Kerry out .



Unless people see this as an opportunity in the knowledge that Kerry and Dylan will go very soon anyway…:shrug:

[GoldHeart]

Unless people see this as an opportunity in the knowledge that Kerry and Dylan will go very soon anyway…:shrug:

I think it would be good if Olivia went , as her behaviour has been too annoying recently. But i don't mind Kerry going either.

If Dylan goes ... the kitchen will go into more chaos , so maybe some people who vote actually want that to happen aswell. Even on L&L they were laughing about the idea of hm's not knowing how to cook... and shoving noodles on bread or something LOL.

[PoppyC]

That's a really good point, Kerry couldn't have done any of that task. I mean, saying negative things about other hms, she'd be good at that part, but she couldn't have got to the Diary Room first or crawled through the passage and getting out of bed quietly would have been a real challenge.

"Would one hm come to the Diary Room" is always a bit suspect anyway because they'll always be able to see who's nearest. Trish didn't even seem to know 1 housemate had been called to the Diary Room... I would expect all hms to be a bit curious about that, unless BB's in the habit of calling for random hms for no reason. It is difficult to know how else they could do it, though. If they're all asked to gather together, they'll know something's up.

I think Kerry has a chance of surviving, though. Dylan and Olivia have behaved badly too and there seems to be an "Oh, we'll get her next time!" feeling whenever Kerry's been up

[GoldHeart]

That's a really good point, Kerry couldn't have done any of that task. I mean, saying negative things about other hms, she'd be good at that part, but she couldn't have got to the Diary Room first or crawled through the passage and getting out of bed quietly would have been a real challenge.

"Would one hm come to the Diary Room" is always a bit suspect anyway because they'll always be able to see who's nearest. Trish didn't even seem to know 1 housemate had been called to the Diary Room... I would expect all hms to be a bit curious about that, unless BB's in the habit of calling for random hms for no reason. It is difficult to know how else they could do it, though. If they're all asked to gather together, they'll know something's up.

I think Kerry has a chance of surviving, though. Dylan and Olivia have behaved badly too and there seems to be an "Oh, we'll get her next time!" feeling whenever Kerry's been up

In the past BB use to ask hm's to the dr randomly to ask them how they're feeling and what they think of other hm's and how the day as been etc. So i guess they must be still calling hm's to the dr in general. I assume Noky just pretended BB was having casual chit chat... and managed to avoid suspicion.

[Redrose]

In tonight's episode, the way she behaved in the diary room sealed her fate. It's the most fake I've seen her. They would have done it through the diary room if Kerry was the possessed housemate. If she survives this eviction it will only prove Hallie was picked because she's trans.

[Ammi]

…yeah, there was definitely a disadvantage for Kerry…and Dylan also..?…


…mind you, I wouldn’t have gone to the DR anyway because of the whole evil BB thing and Halloween looming, Noky could have easily been scuttled out of the side door, which has happened in the past…so a very brave and bold lady…

[bots]

Has Kerry ever given the impression that she would go the extra mile for any of the house mates? No. She wouldn't even have thought to go to the diary room on a general request.

Dylan is perfectly capable of going to the diary room, and didn't

[ebandit]

...............aye! what a load of bollocks...................when kerry goes it will be through her own doing not BB's

kerry has been lucky to survive so far.................

Mark L

[Atake25]

How many times can they influence the opinions of other hms by allowing them to hear chants from the outside!

How many times can they make it quickest to the diary room, then if by some miracle kerry makes it there first, they then go and make it a get out of bed at 4.30 without anyone hearing you reversing your buggy. Then, then crawl on your hands and knees through a ten foot tunnel that's barely wide enough to accommodate Trishs booty.

And now comes the bad mouthing panel on the afrershitshow to nail the final nail in her coffin.


What a load of fixed bollocks.

I’m no fan of Kerry the tantrums just irritate the hell out of me but the reasons that she was nominated was because of the boos and chants and outside influences which the housemates are never supposed to know about
I also think she’s been a bit isolated due to the chants , we have heard talk on live feed where Jordan’s group started to become suspicious with the idea there is no smoke without fire because of the chants
So yes definitely had a more difficult time all due to an unfair public influence

[bots]

the public have always chanted, booed and cheered at every eviction going back to the first one. I don't know what show you folks have been watching all these years

[Garfie]

……they make it quickest to the diary room, then if by some miracle kerry makes it there first, they then go and make it a get out of bed at 4.30 without anyone hearing you reversing your buggy. Then, then crawl on your hands and knees through a ten foot tunnel that's barely wide enough to accommodate Trishs booty.
.

I know you were making a serious point, but you gave such a great visual description of this scenario, that it became like a cartoon strip in my mind and really amused me! :hehe:

[Ammi]

I’m no fan of Kerry the tantrums just irritate the hell out of me but the reasons that she was nominated was because of the boos and chants and outside influences which the housemates are never supposed to know about
I also think she’s been a bit isolated due to the chants , we have heard talk on live feed where Jordan’s group started to become suspicious with the idea there is no smoke without fire because of the chants
So yes definitely had a more difficult time all due to an unfair public influence

…yeah, I think it’s a bit of a ‘be careful what you wish for…’…situation and contradiction in that many of the fans are very ‘pro booing/chanting’ etc….but also would maybe hope for a less manufactured/manipulated house and free from the production interference that was seen in the channel 5 era….manipulated stuff can lead to same house/similar dramas/different housemates…type feel, which for me, will not wear well….

[Atake25]

…yeah, I think it’s a bit of a ‘be careful what you wish for…’…situation and contradiction in that many of the fans are very ‘pro booing/chanting’ etc….but also would maybe hope for a less manufactured/manipulated house and free from the production interference that was seen in the channel 5 era….manipulated stuff can lead to same house/similar dramas/different housemates…type feel, which for me, will not wear well….
Exactly all the housemates know the public love Yinrun in the same manner. This may have had a impact on how people treat her in the house , Olivia for example was very quick to apologise after shouting at her over the washing up , it might be genuine or she might have had an “oh crap” moment I just shouted at the most popular housemate . Harry might have been more brave defending her for the same reason

[Ammi]

the public have always chanted, booed and cheered at every eviction going back to the first one. I don't know what show you folks have been watching all these years

…hmmm, they have but there have also been housemates who have had to be protected from those boos…and back at the beginning of time as it were…there wasn’t social media and the overwhelming negativity that can add for housemate…so I do think that has to be considered as well …is there any other reality show similar who has an audience of fans/no fans booing as contestants leave, I’m not sure there is…I can’t think anyway…

[bots]

Farida was evicted over Kerry, so all the boos and chanting meant nothing. Olivia has probably gone over Kerry today. People read way to much into a few people chanting in the crowd. Bear in mind, there is probably a maximum of 200 people in the crowd and they received over 1 million votes

[Atake25]

...............aye! what a load of bollocks...................when kerry goes it will be through her own doing not BB's

kerry has been lucky to survive so far.................

Mark L
I disagree I don’t think she would have been nominated if it wasn’t for the chants the girls said as much

[Garfie]

the public have always chanted, booed and cheered at every eviction

Yes, I remember this from the past.

The truth is you must know, and take into account, when you make the decision to go on BB (or any similar show) that there is a chance that people might not like you, and you could be booed. That’s just logic.

I also think that producers must discuss this with housemates beforehand, to prepare them for every eventuality, including being unpopular.

If, despite knowing the pitfalls, housemates still choose to be on BB, part of me feels they have to accept the possible consequences.

[Ammi]

Exactly all the housemates know the public love Yinrun in the same manner. This may have had a impact on how people treat her in the house , Olivia for example was very quick to apologise after shouting at her over the washing up , it might be genuine or she might have had an “oh crap” moment I just shouted at the most popular housemate . Harry might have been more brave defending her for the same reason

…yeah, it’s also something I’ve been thinking about as well in terms of how the highlights sometimes seem to be manipulated from what live feed viewers are watching…

…the concept of the show from Wiki…

‘ the show follows the format of other national editions, in which a group of contestants, known as "housemates", live together in a specially constructed house that is isolated from the outside world.’

….housemates being able to hear boos and gage popularity and less popularity etc is not ‘isolated from the outside world’…it can completely manipulate and change dynamics as a direct influence…

[Ammi]

Farida was evicted over Kerry, so all the boos and chanting meant nothing. Olivia has probably gone over Kerry today. People read way to much into a few people chanting in the crowd. Bear in mind, there is probably a maximum of 200 people in the crowd and they received over 1 million votes

…but it doesn’t matter what the ratio of boos there would be in that it’s something that the housemates are registering in there thoughts…big boos/little boos/no boos/cheers etc and the chants as well…good chants/bad chants…it’s all gaging outside opinions…

[Garfie]

‘ the show follows the format of other national editions, in which a group of contestants, known as "housemates", live together in a specially constructed house that is isolated from the outside world.’

….housemates being able to hear boos and gage popularity and less popularity etc is not ‘isolated from the outside world’…it can completely manipulate and change dynamics as a direct influence…

The thing is though, Ammi, those words are ambiguous enough to enable producers to manipulate them as they wish. For instance, they could say that ‘isolated from the outside world’ actually means that housemates can have no contact with family, friends, their work and their normal, everyday lives. They could claim it means physically isolated. They could say that it’s like a prison which isolates inmates from the outside world, yet they still have some awareness of what is going on.

[Ammi]

The thing is though, Ammi, those words are ambiguous enough to enable producers to manipulate them as they wish. For instance, they could say that ‘isolated from the outside world’ actually means that housemates can have no contact with family, friends, their work and their normal, everyday lives. They could claim it means physically isolated. They could say that it’s like a prison which isolates inmates from the outside world, yet they still have some awareness of what is going on.

…yeah for sure, I understand that, Garfie….and we all have our own interpretations of these things that it doesn’t necessarily indicate an ‘all or nothing’ type thing…I guess though for me, it’s …(…and always has been…)…a house dynamics of total strangers who may have nothing in common and never intertwine in the outside world and how connections build…(…and conflicts as well….)…and then the tasks all adding to those things, like coping with crying babies for instance…it’s not about messing with their heads in terms of fear factor adding …with social media platforms especially, they’ll face that soon enough…but manipulating it into the house also is just not great I personally don’t think….and in the past has possibly contributed and factored into ‘walkers’ being more a thing in some seasons…

[Garfie]

…is there any other reality show similar who has an audience of fans/no fans booing as contestants leave, I’m not sure there is…I can’t think anyway…

Maybe not another reality show, but footballers have to tolerate 90 mins a week of boos and the most horrendous and foul of chants imaginable, which make the response of the BB crowd seem pretty mild.

I have to come back to the fact that housemates know when they put themselves in the BB house, that there is every possibility that they could be unpopular and be on the receiving end of boos and negative comments. They know today’s world, so make an informed choice. If they’re not prepared to accept that possibility, they should not sign up for BB. If they choose to go ahead, then part of me feels that they have to tolerate and accept these things.

[Garfie]

…yeah for sure, I understand that, Garfie….and we all have our own interpretations of these things that it doesn’t necessarily indicate an ‘all or nothing’ type thing…I guess though for me, it’s …(…and always has been…)…a house dynamics of total strangers who may have nothing in common and never intertwine in the outside world and how connections build…(…and conflicts as well….)…and then the tasks all adding to those things, like coping with crying babies for instance…it’s not about messing with their heads in terms of fear factor adding …with social media platforms especially, they’ll face that soon enough…but manipulating it into the house also is just not great I personally don’t think….and in the past has possibly contributed and factored into ‘walkers’ being more a thing in some seasons…

Yes, you’ve interpreted the words in their purest form, but producers will interpret or manipulate them to generate the most entertainment and viewing figures.

[Ammi]

Maybe not another reality show, but footballers have to tolerate 90 mins a week of boos and the most horrendous and foul of chants imaginable, which make the response of the BB crowd seem pretty mild.

I have to come back to the fact that housemates know when they put themselves in the BB house, that there is every possibility that they could be unpopular and be on the receiving end of boos and negative comments. They know today’s world, so make an informed choice. If they’re not prepared to accept that possibility, they should not sign up for BB. If they choose to go ahead, then part of me feels that they have to tolerate and accept these things.

…well, it’s been devised so that they have to hear and experience the boos while their stay in the house is ongoing as well …BB did look at it, I think ….in that there was talk of a ‘no boo/chant’ crowd but I could never see how that could be possible…anyway, it is what it is and isn’t going to change…so…

[MTVN]

Well that is true tbf that Kerry couldn't have done that secret task, not sure Jenkin would fit through the hatch either

I did think they should have decided the possessed housemate through a task which everyone had the same chance of winning but it worked out for me so I don't care so much :hee:

[Ammi]

…and Dylan as well would be disadvantaged just because of the speed thing in being able to get to the DR quickly/first…

[bots]

Kerry is an absolutely obnoxious house mate. You live and die by the sword

[Ammi]

…well, Halloween isn’t over yet and evil BB could be lurking in the shadows and not yet finished with their wickedness….if they reveal to the house how the choices were made etc…Trish and/or Noky might yet also ‘die’ in the Friday eviction…

[Crimson Dynamo]

BB:"Hi Trish and Noky - who are you most jealous of in the house?"

Trish and Noky: "Olivia"

BB: "Give me 2 other names that you think if you nominate you will get the least blowback"

Trish and Noky: "Kerry and Dylan for obvious reason"

BB: "Ta"

[Garfie]

Well that is true tbf that Kerry couldn't have done that secret task, not sure Jenkin would fit through the hatch either

I did think they should have decided the possessed housemate through a task which everyone had the same chance of winning but it worked out for me so I don't care so much :hee:

Yes, I agree, but I do think they would have probably used an alternative entrance to the diary room had it been a housemate who would have had difficulty with the tunnel entrance.

[GoldHeart]

Yes, I agree, but I do think they would have probably used an alternative entrance to the diary room had it been a housemate who would have had difficulty with the tunnel entrance.

Yeah they would have still found a way for Kerry to be possessed if she went to the Dr first .

[Abra]

How many times can they influence the opinions of other hms by allowing them to hear chants from the outside!

How many times can they make it quickest to the diary room, then if by some miracle kerry makes it there first, they then go and make it a get out of bed at 4.30 without anyone hearing you reversing your buggy. Then, then crawl on your hands and knees through a ten foot tunnel that's barely wide enough to accommodate Trishs booty.

And now comes the bad mouthing panel on the afrershitshow to nail the final nail in her coffin.


What a load of fixed bollocks.
The crowd chants have been part of Big Brother for many years, that's not going to change.

And in regards to if Kerry had gone to the diary room, I'm sure they would have already made a separate plan for a secret task for Kerry to accommodate her needs in that eventuality.

Not everything requires a tin-foil hat.

[Beso]

The crowd chants have been part of Big Brother for many years, that's not going to change.

And in regards to if Kerry had gone to the diary room, I'm sure they would have already made a separate plan for a secret task for Kerry to accommodate her needs in that eventuality.

Not everything requires a tin-foil hat.



Yes you are probably correct. If Kerry had got to the diary room 1st.

It would probably have been a straight eviction there and then.

[GoldHeart]

Yes you are probably correct. If Kerry had got to the diary room 1st.

It would probably have been a straight eviction there and then.

No it wouldn't have .

[Niamh.]

BB:"Hi Trish and Noky - who are you most jealous of in the house?"

Trish and Noky: "Olivia"

BB: "Give me 2 other names that you think if you nominate you will get the least blowback"

Trish and Noky: "Kerry and Dylan for obvious reason"

BB: "Ta"

Noky didn't pick Olivia though, she suggested they each chose one and then the last one together. She couldn't really go back on that just because Trish picked Olivia

[bots]

Noky didn't pick Olivia though, she suggested they each chose one and then the last one together. She couldn't really go back on that just because Trish picked Olivia

she didnt try very hard to change Trish's mind

[Ray.]

Well why would she? The agreement was that they each do a personal nomination, and then the final person would be one they both agreed on.

[Niamh.]

she didnt try very hard to change Trish's mindIf she'd tried to change her mind then she'd be disagreeing with her own suggestion of how to vote

[bots]

If she'd tried to change her mind then she'd be disagreeing with her own suggestion of how to vote

Noky's acting was first rate though when they announced the noms :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Why didn't BB let Kerry leave in her scooter? .

[Garfie]

Yes you are probably correct. If Kerry had got to the diary room 1st.

It would probably have been a straight eviction there and then.

:laugh:

[Garfie]

Why didn't BB let Kerry leave in her scooter? .

Because it was more fun seeing her squished in a coffin!? :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Because it was more fun seeing her squished in a coffin!? :laugh:

I actually felt a bit sorry for her ,but seeing her in the interview...reminds me of how annoying she is.... lol .

But she definitely took the eviction the best out of Olivia & Dylan.

[Garfie]

I actually felt a bit sorry for her ,but seeing her in the interview...reminds me of how annoying she is.... lol .

But she definitely took the eviction the best out of Olivia & Dylan.

Whoops! I have to admit I did find it funny! She would only have been in there very momentarily, and it was padded for comfort!

[Beso]

And.....


Trish and Noky should have at least been made to give valid nomination reasons for picking Kerry.(Admittedly it wasnt nominations, but still)

We've constantly heard the boos, is outside influence, and is not a valid reason.