The Traitors 2 (UK)

[Benjamin]

I can’t wait for this to be back. Current speculation is it’s going to be aired in Dec again. :love:

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[rusticgal]

Great….I can’t wait.

[smudgie]

Brilliant show. Can’t wait.

[Benjamin]

Brilliant show. Can’t wait.

Have you watched the Australian one? Equally as good as ours. Avoid the USA/NZ ones.

[Garfie]

I watched a USA version, I think, but found it less appealing as the tasks were too similar. I’m looking forward to the new series though.

[LaLaLand]

I worry about this honestly.

Part of the "charm" for me of Series 1 was that the participants had absolutely no idea what they were signing up for,, quite literally, and were thrown in at the deep end upon immediate arrival to the castle. How are they going to achieve the same results with players who now know the game and maybe have pre-empted plans/tactics/motives?

Looking forward to it nonetheless but yeah I hope it still keeps that element of genuine spontaneity.

[Mystic Mock]

Imo The Traitors and Squid Game: The Challenge are probably my two favourite Reality Shows of the newer ones.

[Garfie]

I worry about this honestly.

Part of the "charm" for me of Series 1 was that the participants had absolutely no idea what they were signing up for,, quite literally, and were thrown in at the deep end upon immediate arrival to the castle. How are they going to achieve the same results with players who now know the game and maybe have pre-empted plans/tactics/motives?

Looking forward to it nonetheless but yeah I hope it still keeps that element of genuine spontaneity.

I think, maybe, contestants will need to find new strategies that work in order to be successful. The truth is, though, they still need to identify who is genuine and who is not, as well as who the traitors are. Without knowing other contestants beforehand that will still be a challenge, even though they understand the concept of the game.

[Garfie]

Imo The Traitors and Squid Game: The Challenge are probably my two favourite Reality Shows of the newer ones.

I miss The Circle, as I thoroughly enjoyed that. I hope they’ll be future series at some point, and that it hasn’t been dropped completely. Time for more!

[Mystic Mock]

I miss The Circle, as I thoroughly enjoyed that. I hope they’ll be future series at some point, and that it hasn’t been dropped completely. Time for more!

I've never watched The Circle tbf, but I have heard good things about it.

Hopefully future series will be made though, I like to see the fans win in these types of situations.

[jones89]

Yeah we love The Traitors, BBC are taking their time adding season 2 of the AUS one, so i aint seen that yet..

I was thinking the other night if the show would be more effective if we also didn’t know who the traitors were.. would add more mystery obviously and when someone’s banished we’d be waiting for them to reveal if they were a traitor or not.. i dunno, just a thought lol

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah we love The Traitors, BBC are taking their time adding season 2 of the AUS one, so i aint seen that yet..

I was thinking the other night if the show would be more effective if we also didn’t know who the traitors were.. would add more mystery obviously and when someone’s banished we’d be waiting for them to reveal if they were a traitor or not.. i dunno, just a thought lol

I think it should be an idea that's explored at some point within the franchise.

[Strictly Jake]

I miss The Circle, as I thoroughly enjoyed that. I hope they’ll be future series at some point, and that it hasn’t been dropped completely. Time for more!

Try the USA one of netflix. It's pretty good!

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah we love The Traitors, BBC are taking their time adding season 2 of the AUS one, so i aint seen that yet..

I was thinking the other night if the show would be more effective if we also didn’t know who the traitors were.. would add more mystery obviously and when someone’s banished we’d be waiting for them to reveal if they were a traitor or not.. i dunno, just a thought lol

Can't wait for the Traitors season 2 and yeah I think at some point they should keep it a secret to us who the traitors are. I think that is what is so good with the mole

[Vanessa]

Can't wait for this. Love this show
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[Nicky91]

need to keep an eye out regarding when it starts, so i can program it to record it, deffo me and my dad going to be watching this again

[GoldHeart]

We have to wait till the new year, I was hoping it would start in December again...but oh well.

[Vanessa]

Can't wait for this. Love this show
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[Strictly Jake]

need to keep an eye out regarding when it starts, so i can program it to record it, deffo me and my dad going to be watching this again

3rd January

[Garfie]

Try the USA one of netflix. It's pretty good!

Thanks for the suggestion, Jake, but I’ve already watched the 3 series of the USA version as well! All were good, too. I really like the concept of the show, and I think it creates a lot of humour as well as twists and turns.

[jones89]

Thanks for the suggestion, Jake, but I’ve already watched the 3 series of the USA version as well! All were good, too. I really like the concept of the show, and I think it creates a lot of humour as well as twists and turns.

There’s 3 seasons of the US one already? Are they on Netflix in the UK? I only caught the first season on iplayer

[Ammi]

…I’m really looking forward to devoting my January evenings to this and to seeing what the new twists are for this series…

[Beastie]

Can't wait until tomorrow night!

[GoldHeart]

Just checked the cast , looks like there's more of a mix of different types this year.

[LaLaLand]

I'm so excited. Absolutely loved the first series!! Cast looks great once again - lovely mix!

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

….I’m not sure if I need to post spoilers or if we need a general discussion thread…but….


….ooooooo, I like the idea that the traitors have to choose the final traitor themselves….also, three good traitors chosen by Claudia….

[Vanessa]

I'm loving the new series!

[Ammi]

…it’s a terrific cast, Vanessa…some really competitive players and great blends of characters…

[Strictly Jake]

Love the fact we didn't get to find out who the final traitor was. Meant we all got to do a bit of guessing ourselves and read people. My vote is on Diane

[Vanessa]

Tempted to watch the second episode on the iPlayer :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Tempted to watch the second episode on the iPlayer :laugh:

I watched all 3 episodes



I rolled my eyes at Diane & Ross taking part together secretly as mother & son, talk about a unfair advantage. Last year we already had 2 players who already knew eachother... and they shot themselves in the foot and if I'm honest they were more likable than Diane & her son . I knew it seemed odd the way Diane was telling Ross what to do re: the first round table :suspect:, and her dislike for Anthony is based on something that happened before the traitors were even picked, so her coldness towards him is bizarre. He hasn't done anything suspicious.

Harry & Paul stabbing Ash in the back and betraying her is textbook traitor style,and predictable AF . The moment she was chosen as traitor,I knew the boys would stick together. Will be funny to see if they throw eachother under the bus when they get closer to
the prize money. I'm not a fan of Paul or Harry both are cocky and arrogant.

Zak is annoying ,but it's interesting he figured out there's a mother & son duo ,he just got the wrong son . I hope Diane & her son get exposed.

Brian & Anthony will run their mouths too much and get themselves banished. I actually
like Anthony at the moment, but he has to be careful.


I'm gutted Kyra got murdered , she had such potential. clearly too clever for them.

Sonja was trying to be too sneaky , so i didn't mind her getting banished . I wasn't too fussed about Aubrey either.

Brian has lost the plot completely with his random nervous outburst , it would be his own fault if it's got him banished. I really hope Anthony has voted for him . But I have a bad feeling it's curtains for Ash ,she caused too much suspicion. Even though I didn't think she played the
game that badly, maybe just a bit eager in conversations.


Charlotte comes across a bit of a cold stirrer aswell,both her and Diane have similar energy. I'm not warming to either of them , both seem stuck up . Tracy seems a bit delusional and condescending aswell.

Was nice to see Miles not vote Ash , I hope he keeps having his own mind and doesn't become a sheep.



The other players are either in the background or seem ok for now .

[Ammi]

…I’m going to try not to look under that spoiler, GH….I watched it on real time so hadn’t realised that more episodes were already available…it was an e cell ent start, though…such a great cast and Claudia is such a fabulous host…

[GoldHeart]

…I’m going to try not to look under that spoiler, GH….I watched it on real time so hadn’t realised that more episodes were already available…it was an e cell ent start, though…such a great cast and Claudia is such a fabulous host…

I didn't watch it in real time,I caught up on iPlayer ...hence me binging all 3 episodes when I realised they had been released at once lol . It's got me invested like last year ,but I still hate the cliffhangers ...I know it's done to keep suspense and to have us wanting more ..but urgh :rolleyes: .

Anyway ...I hope you enjoy ,when you catch up with the other episodes :wavey: .

[_Tom_]

Love the fact we didn't get to find out who the final traitor was. Meant we all got to do a bit of guessing ourselves and read people. My vote is on Diane

I liked that too! It's something a lot of people were asking for during S1 - so I'm glad we could be guessing for a bit.

I feel it has to be Miles chosen - he's very calm and collected whereas Sonja is a loose cannon and Diane is too intense.

[smudgie]

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Loving it already.
Needless to say I had to watch all 3 episodes.
Leaves me free to watch Madame Blanc tonight.

[Ammi]

…I’ve still only watched that first episode, GH…I don’t know if I can keep this iron Will but for the moment…I don’t know if those who have watched the 3 episodes now know the fourth traitor….but I was thinking….is it Harry…? …didn’t he say that he felt that Diane already suspected him…so the smart thing would be to enlist her and have her on side ….hmmmm, she isn’t necessarily who I think would make the best traitor…she actually said herself that she wouldn’t want to be a traitor….but it would be a smart tactical move…?…

[GoldHeart]

…I’ve still only watched that first episode, GH…I don’t know if I can keep this iron Will but for the moment…I don’t know if those who have watched the 3 episodes now know the fourth traitor….but I was thinking….is it Harry…? …didn’t he say that he felt that Diane already suspected him…so the smart thing would be to enlist her and have her on side ….hmmmm, she isn’t necessarily who I think would make the best traitor…she actually said herself that she wouldn’t want to be a traitor….but it would be a smart tactical move…?…

I can't really spoil it for you then , until you watch it .

I'm not a Diane or Harry fan .

[Mystic Mock]

Episode 3 spoiler the way that Brian was slowly drawing more and more attention to himself was wild lol.

[Strictly Jake]

Fully caught up now. It's just such a good programme

[Ammi]

…I think the Traitors chose well with their recruit and also with their murder victim…when …Aubrey… though, said that they would regret their decision or something similar…?..I wondered if there is something we don’t know and whether some murder victims might be coming back at a later time, hmmmmmmmm….

…I’m so here for Diane and Anthony and their dislike of each other…will they vote each other every time at the round table…

[GoldHeart]

…I think the Traitors chose well with their recruit and also with their murder victim…when …Aubrey… though, said that they would regret their decision or something similar…?..I wondered if there is something we don’t know and whether some murder victims might be coming back at a later time, hmmmmmmmm….

…I’m so here for Diane and Anthony and their dislike of each other…will they vote each other every time at the round table…

I'm gutted the whole series isn't released at once . Cliffhangers annoy me lol :fist:.

Weird thing is Anthony never took a dislike to Karen ...oh I mean Diane :whistle: , she's solely judged him on the first task ...of queueing in a line , before they even entered the castle,amd before the Traitors wad even chosen by Claudia. And she's basing that on him being a ' Traitor ' which is dumb as hell and makes no sense.

Charlotte is treating Anthony the same way,and accusing him of " changing" since she met him on the platform. But I don't know if you want to replay that opening episode. But I remember when she met him she was all smiles,then whether it's just editing or their nerves...but her face changed like she was judging him from the get go . So yeah both Diane & Charlotte come across as bitchy to me .

[rusticgal]

…I think the Traitors chose well with their recruit and also with their murder victim…when …Aubrey… though, said that they would regret their decision or something similar…?..I wondered if there is something we don’t know and whether some murder victims might be coming back at a later time, hmmmmmmmm….

…I’m so here for Diane and Anthony and their dislike of each other…will they vote each other every time at the round table…


I dont think Diane will last long in this game....she thinks she's smart and she wants everyone to know she is smart and that will only trigger alarm bells.

[rusticgal]

I'm gutted the whole series isn't released at once . Cliffhangers annoy me lol :fist:.

Weird thing is Anthony never took a dislike to Karen ...oh I mean Diane :whistle: , she's solely judged him on the first task ...of queueing in a line , before they even entered the castle,amd before the Traitors wad even chosen by Claudia. And she's basing that on him being a ' Traitor ' which is dumb as hell and makes no sense.

Charlotte is treating Anthony the same way,and accusing him of " changing" since she met him on the platform. But I don't know if you want to replay that opening episode. But I remember when she met him she was all smiles,then whether it's just editing or their nerves...but her face changed like she was judging him from the get go . So yeah both Diane & Charlotte come across as bitchy to me .


Yes Diane's reason was pathetic....how would stopping her queueing in a line make you think he is a traitor when at that point no one knew who was going to be one :shrug:

[Ammi]

…oh I will watch back at that first interaction with Anthony and Diane, GH and Rusti…it’s maybe going to be the big ‘feud’ of the season and I somehow missed it completely…:laugh:…I was probably overwhelmed with excitement at it finally being back…

…a little bit of pointless/irrelevant information about Diane, if you weren’t already aware…is that she has a celebrity/actor son… Kerr Logan, apparently he was in Game of Thrones…anyway, she had kept it a secret from him that she was going to be part of the show and when it was revealed…(…he allegedly said…)…oh Lord, she’s bonkers/or something similar…:laugh:…

[rusticgal]

...she does look like a bit of a nutcase :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Yes Diane's reason was pathetic....how would stopping her queueing in a line make you think he is a traitor when at that point no one knew who was going to be one :shrug:

I cannot warm to her or Charlotte at all , I will be glad if Diane gets murdered or banished in the game . She's very unlikable. And I have a feeling she will manipulate half the players into voting he way. She's already got Charlotte & another player on her side, I forgot her name...but it's a more easily led player.


…oh I will watch back at that first interaction with Anthony and Diane, GH and Rusti…it’s maybe going to be the big ‘feud’ of the season and I somehow missed it completely…:laugh:…I was probably overwhelmed with excitement at it finally being back…

…a little bit of pointless/irrelevant information about Diane, if you weren’t already aware…is that she has a celebrity/actor son… Kerr Logan, apparently he was in Game of Thrones…
anyway, she had kept it a secret from him that she was going to be part of the show and when it was revealed…(…he allegedly said…)…oh Lord, she’s bonkers/or something
similar…:laugh:…

Wow I didn't know that she had a famous son , and she definitely comes across weird,vans she thinks she's the smartest one there . I hope she lets slip about her other son in the
game . She goes around trying to intimidate .

As for the first interaction , Anthony didn't do anything ....all the players were trying to get in the middle as they were scared Claudia would eliminate or give some type of penalty to anyone at the top of bottom,so everyone wanted to be ' safe' in the middle. But Diane has took it upon herself to get salty over it, as she thinks she was entitled to a certain place in the queue,Which is ridiculous ....as the queue was for a laugh anyway, and nobody got
affected anyway this year by it :rolleyes: .

The platform interaction with Charlotte & Anthony was odd , he was friendly and she was all smiles....then it was like something clicked in her head and she started giving him a suspicious look ...out of nowhere. And she's then took that with her to twist it around like he's the one being peculiar . I know the show is edited ...but I'm not seeing this " change" in Anthony .

Brian was the one who freaked out and changed ,he actually made himself look guilty when he isn't guilty lmao .

[Vanessa]

Omg they're mother and aon. I think they're on to them!

[Strictly Jake]

Omg they're mother and aon. I think they're on to them!

Yep and her other song was Ser Davos son in game of thrones

[Bronzo]

I cannot warm to her or Charlotte at all , I will be glad if Diane gets murdered or banished in the game . She's very unlikable. And I have a feeling she will manipulate half the players into voting he way. She's already got Charlotte & another player on her side, I forgot her name...but it's a more easily led player.




Wow I didn't know that she had a famous son , and she definitely comes across weird,vans she thinks she's the smartest one there . I hope she lets slip about her other son in the
game . She goes around trying to intimidate .

As for the first interaction , Anthony didn't do anything ....all the players were trying to get in the middle as they were scared Claudia would eliminate or give some type of penalty to anyone at the top of bottom,so everyone wanted to be ' safe' in the middle. But Diane has took it upon herself to get salty over it, as she thinks she was entitled to a certain place in the queue,Which is ridiculous ....as the queue was for a laugh anyway, and nobody got
affected anyway this year by it :rolleyes: .

The platform interaction with Charlotte & Anthony was odd , he was friendly and she was all smiles....then it was like something clicked in her head and she started giving him a suspicious look ...out of nowhere. And she's then took that with her to twist it around like he's the one being peculiar . I know the show is edited ...but I'm not seeing this " change" in Anthony .

Brian was the one who freaked out and changed ,he actually made himself look guilty when he isn't guilty lmao .

I mean if the players listen to her they have a shot of winning, she’s been the only one to actively go after a traitor; going full steam on Ash and putting herself in jepodary by being vocal. Putting yourself out there in this game and getting votes is risky but it may have paid off.. ia tied vote never less this early is impressive play. Shes one of the smarter faithfuls in terms of picking up ques and not falling into herd mentality.. herd mentality is what loses the game as the traitors only need to convince one person each and that’s 8 votes.. even though her Anthony vote is way off id still stand behind someone on their own convictions than a weaker person going with the group (as that’s a guarantee to vote out a faithful).

I think her cold exterior and resting bitch face doesn’t help but she’s at least playing the game and isn’t another Hannah/Meryl waiting for the traitors to just manipulate them and vote for whoever the traitor tells them to.

She also sussed Harry when he got selected and is on to Paul so she has suspicions of 3/4 traitors with an incorrect guess of Anthony? But she’s easily the faithful with the best reads so far - I’m hoping she stays in longer to keep it interesting, rather than the dullards with no voice who will just get manipulated stay in

[rusticgal]

God…Brian was a fumbling mess tonight…he didn’t do himself any favours.

[Mystic Mock]

God…Brian was a fumbling mess tonight…he didn’t do himself any favours.

At least he took attention away from Zack and Anthony.:dance:

[GoldHeart]

At least he took attention away from Zack and Anthony.:dance:

I'm dying at this comment :joker:, Brian isn't cut out for The Traitors i don't think . He's a bag of nerves .

[Ammi]

…poor Brian, he really struggled from being voted the most ‘sheep’, didn’t he…it’s so evil the way they left us not knowing….will Ash be there for the murder or not…a bit awkward if she’s stayed and her fellow traitors voted her to go….ooooops….

[GoldHeart]

…poor Brian, he really struggled from being voted the most ‘sheep’, didn’t he…it’s so evil the way they left us not knowing….will Ash be there for the murder or not…a bit awkward if she’s stayed and her fellow traitors voted her to go….ooooops….

Would be brilliant if Ash stays ,then she can confront Paul & Harry after they stabbed her in the back, and I bet you anything they'll be trying to worm their way back into her good books.

The best outcome is Ash staying & Brian going instead. Brian is too panicky and nervous. He's in the wrong game.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm dying at this comment :joker:, Brian isn't cut out for The Traitors i don't think . He's a bag of nerves .

I would agree with you on that.

I think from his perspective, playing the Meryl role from last year might've suited him better.

[Babayaro.]

Just finished catching up and what a start :clap1:

I must say though, I felt really bad for Brian during that massive bout of anxiety he had at the round table. It was not a good look at all for the people laughing at him and pulling faces, even if you think he’s a traitor, he’s a person who is clearly showing a great deal of anxiety in a tense situation

[GoldHeart]

I would agree with you on that.

I think from his perspective, playing the Meryl role from last year might've suited him better.

Yeah Meryl was such a sheep , even after the show they admitted Hannah could tell her what to do ,and she'd just go along with it . I think Brian took it too personally when he got labelled a follower/ sheep ....and instead of staying calm ,he had a spectacular meltdown , can you imagine if he actually got picked as a traitor, he'd probably be crying and shaking like Wilf from last year.

[Ammi]

…yeah, Babsy…poor Brian…he was really struggling after getting the most ‘sheep’ votes …I mean, that pack mentality is part of the game, though…and one that isn’t that pleasant but it’s an essential for the round table process to target players…otherwise the votes would be too fragmented each time…and it’s obviously essential for the traitors to try to manipulate suspicions to keep themselves safe and remove threats etc….it must be hard though so early in the game when they still don’t know each other well …to be voted things like most ‘sheep like’ because that’s more something that it would take time to see in someone’s personality and we’re only a few episodes in…I mean, I hadn’t noticed it in Brian particularly….its a strange one really because is it the thought of being voted out or is it more the method and being that person who feels ‘targeted’ at the round table…?…because it isn’t subtle, it’s harsh and cruel ….that ‘pack’ is right there facing you….anyway, just musing, it’s not good to see anyone struggle like that….


….ive just realised…/…dumb me…that it’s only on 3 days a week every week and i5 wasn’t just last week because the start date was a Wednesday…oh my Lord, we can’t survive these cliffhangers every week…we’ll need a therapy group…

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

…poor Ash….it wasnt just being one of focuses at the round table but being targeted by two of the Traitors as well that caused her emotions, I think…it’ll be interesting to see which of the dungeon dwellers are saved by the group…

[Ammi]

…oh, so what will happen if Meg……is voted out at the round table…only 2 Traitors will be left then and neither can be murdered by other traitors…

[Vanessa]

I think Ash is a goner

[Ammi]

…you were right, Vanessa….but aghhhhhhh……why did they not show Ash tell the round table tonight…and we could have had the murder as well because we know it’s Meg…. …that isn’t a well thought out cliffhanger is it….

[Vanessa]

Is she going to say that she's a faithful? :joker:

[Ammi]

…:laugh:…that would be so funny…Ash and Claudia doing a back and forth thing of ‘yes you are a Traitor’…’no, I’m not silly, I’m faithful’….

[GoldHeart]

…you were right, Vanessa….but aghhhhhhh……why did they not show Ash tell the round table tonight…and we could have had the murder as well because we know it’s Meg…. …that isn’t a well thought out cliffhanger is it….

That cliffhanger was dumb as hell and makes no sense , why they cut it there .... when we already know the answer :conf: , unless there's another twist or something serious happened.

Is Ash going to throw Paul & Harry under the bus before she leaves :fc:, i'm here for it... she should do what Kieran did last year lol . She has really badly screwed up her game plan, i knew it would backfire putting herself in the dungeon . Even in the voting , why did she waste her vote on Evie :facepalm: :crazy: .

She can see how backstabbing and dirty both Paul & Harry are , they're snakes and they have zero loyalties towards her, so why didn't she vote for Paul and shift the blame back onto him to save her own skin.... if traitors are going to betray eachother , then she should have put her thinking cap on .

She made the mistake of still trying to stick by them... like a foolish gullible act . And it's cost her big time. Miles was in the middle and has just gone along with voting for her, as he's scared.


No surprises with Brian being a goner either. He shot himself in the foot and was too weak a player ... despite being a faithful.

I really can't stand how cocky and sure of himself Paul is , i find him really unlikable. If he wins then it will honestly leave a bad taste on this series . I know it's a game and all . But he's just awful, and so is his little side kick Harry. If Miles gets nervous ... watch them both throw him to the wolves next. Paul & Harry think they're going to get to the end and win , i would love their smirks to be wiped off their faces.

Paul needs to learn to be more humble, he takes too much pleasure and joy out of being a manipulative sleaze bag . And his little crocodile tears around the table was so forced . I can't believe they're falling for his act.

Jaz & Zak seem to be the only ones who are smart enough to go against the herd mentality, they're onto Paul . But i guess they will have to be careful not to put suspicion onto themselves. Otherwise we will get another Maddy moment like last year

[rusticgal]

Perhaps she says more than she should….and stitches another traitor up with a subtle dig…

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah Meryl was such a sheep , even after the show they admitted Hannah could tell her what to do ,and she'd just go along with it . I think Brian took it too personally when he got labelled a follower/ sheep ....and instead of staying calm ,he had a spectacular meltdown , can you imagine if he actually got picked as a traitor, he'd probably be crying and shaking like Wilf from last year.

Wil was a smarter player at the game than Brian imo.

He knew how to throw suspicion away from himself with most of the contestants, Brian is admittedly what you've described though, he would've folded almost immediately would be my guess.

After last night's episode, I'm going to guess that Zack will be the next contestant to be banished, and Jaz is definitely putting himself in the firing line for a possible murder, as I think Paul will be impulsive enough to pull the trigger.

[Ammi]

That cliffhanger was dumb as hell and makes no sense , why they cut it there .... when we already know the answer :conf: , unless there's another twist or something serious happened.

Is Ash going to throw Paul & Harry under the bus before she leaves :fc:, i'm here for it... she should do what Kieran did last year lol . She has really badly screwed up her game plan, i knew it would backfire putting herself in the dungeon . Even in the voting , why did she waste her vote on Evie :facepalm: :crazy: .

She can see how backstabbing and dirty both Paul & Harry are , they're snakes and they have zero loyalties towards her, so why didn't she vote for Paul and shift the blame back onto him to save her own skin.... if traitors are going to betray eachother , then she should have put her thinking cap on .

She made the mistake of still trying to stick by them... like a foolish gullible act . And it's cost her big time. Miles was in the middle and has just gone along with voting for her, as he's scared.


No surprises with Brian being a goner either. He shot himself in the foot and was too weak a player ... despite being a faithful.

I really can't stand how cocky and sure of himself Paul is , i find him really unlikable. If he wins then it will honestly leave a bad taste on this series . I know it's a game and all . But he's just awful, and so is his little side kick Harry. If Miles gets nervous ... watch them both throw him to the wolves next. Paul & Harry think they're going to get to the end and win , i would love their smirks to be wiped off their faces.

Paul needs to learn to be more humble, he takes too much pleasure and joy out of being a manipulative sleaze bag . And his little crocodile tears around the table was so forced . I can't believe they're falling for his act.

Jaz & Zak seem to be the only ones who are smart enough to go against the herd mentality, they're onto Paul . But i guess they will have to be careful not to put suspicion onto themselves. Otherwise we will get another Maddy moment like last year

…I couldn’t understand why Ash wasn’t implicating either of them and throwing suspicions in their direction because that’s all she could do for them targeting her and turning in her etc…when the others know that she was indeed a traitor, they are going to assume that she’d nod to her fellow traitors so she’s now ensured that Evie will become a victim of the round table…that’s very harsh and I just can’t fathom why she would do that to Evie…it’s all getting very ruthless very quickly, isn’t it…Paul I think is going to be safe for a while now …on a side note, I assume another Traitor will be chosen to replace Ash …I wonder who the other 3 will choose…?…I do hope it’ll be another female for balance….

[GoldHeart]

…I couldn’t understand why Ash wasn’t implicating either of them and throwing suspicions in their direction because that’s all she could do for them targeting her and turning in her etc…when the others know that she was indeed a traitor, they are going to assume that she’d nod to her fellow traitors so she’s now ensured that Evie will become a victim of the round table…that’s very harsh and I just can’t fathom why she would do that to Evie…it’s all getting very ruthless very quickly, isn’t it…Paul I think is going to be safe for a while now …on a side note, I assume another Traitor will be chosen to replace Ash …I wonder who the other 3 will choose…?…I do hope it’ll be another female for balance….

Imagine if Evie became a traitor now , unlikely but would be funny.

I'm so disappointed in how Ash has played the game, she talked about fighting back .....but she basically rolled over and became defeated :bored: . If I was stabbed in the back by 2 fellow Traitors.... I'd be throwing every suspicion onto them ,and go out with a bang ....I would throw little hints out there aswell , and like you say when she gets banished then it will make the other players question them.

Ash has basically helped Paul & Harry go further in the game,which they DON'T deserve . I didn't like how sure of himself Paul was. I really don't want him or Harry to win .

[GoldHeart]

Wil was a smarter player at the game than Brian imo.

He knew how to throw suspicion away from himself with most of the contestants, Brian is admittedly what you've described though, he would've folded almost immediately would be my guess.

After last night's episode, I'm going to guess that Zack will be the next contestant to be banished, and Jaz is definitely putting himself in the firing line for a possible murder, as I think Paul will be impulsive enough to pull the trigger.

I went from finding Zack annoying to actually wanting him to stay now , and Jaz is more outspoken now and he needs to stay aswell.

Paul would be pretty thick if he murders Jaz now , Jaz made it clear he had his suspicions about Paul . That would be Paul over playing his hand imo...and it's already bad enough he succeeded in his dungeon double bluff :fist:.

[Ammi]

Imagine if Evie became a traitor now , unlikely but would be funny.

I'm so disappointed in how Ash has played the game, she talked about fighting back .....but she basically rolled over and became defeated :bored: . If I was stabbed in the back by 2 fellow Traitors.... I'd be throwing every suspicion onto them ,and go out with a bang ....I would throw little hints out there aswell , and like you say when she gets banished then it will make the other players question them.

Ash has basically helped Paul & Harry go further in the game,which they DON'T deserve . I didn't like how sure of himself Paul was. I really don't want him or Harry to win .

…yeah, I was almost screaming at the TV for Ash to also play that same game that they were playing….I mean, that’s what we hope from a traitor, isn’t it…it wasn’t going to save her but it was then about helping the faithfuls in their search for the traitors…

[rusticgal]

Imagine if Evie became a traitor now , unlikely but would be funny.

I'm so disappointed in how Ash has played the game, she talked about fighting back .....but she basically rolled over and became defeated :bored: . If I was stabbed in the back by 2 fellow Traitors.... I'd be throwing every suspicion onto them ,and go out with a bang ....I would throw little hints out there aswell , and like you say when she gets banished then it will make the other players question them.

Ash has basically helped Paul & Harry go further in the game,which they DON'T deserve . I didn't like how sure of himself Paul was. I really don't want him or Harry to win .


Ash was just plain stupid getting talked in to going in the Dungeon....she trusted 2 people who tried to throw her under the bus then allowed them to do it again..

[GoldHeart]

…yeah, I was almost screaming at the TV for Ash to also play that same game that they were playing….I mean, that’s what we hope from a traitor, isn’t it…it wasn’t going to save her but it was then about helping the faithfuls in their search for the traitors…

I watched the uncloacked podcast with Ed Gamble interviewing her ,and Ash was still treating it like she was rooting for Paul & Harry as a team, I don't think she realised it was every man for themselves . The host was reminding her that the show is called ' The Traitors' , so basically she should never have seen Paul & Harry as her friends.

Her thinking was she thought if she kept Paul closer to her that it would keep her safe, which was ridiculous imo, as she was screwed . And it was clear as day she couldn't trust Paul or Harry ,they betrayed her twice :bored: :rolleyes: . She wanted to have a chance to bite Paul back, but she never did . She wasted the round table big time.

Tonight when she's revealed as a traitor, I'm guessing she still covered for Paul & Harry. And just says " yes I am a traitor" .

[GoldHeart]

Ash was just plain stupid getting talked in to going in the Dungeon....she trusted 2 people who tried to throw her under the bus then allowed them to do it again..

Exactly
Imagine being dumb enough to put yourself in the dungeon when the other players already suspect you of being a traitor , I mean I could see what she was trying to do....with the whole ' double bluff' angle, but you would want to stay under the radar and shift attention away as anything standing out is a bad look. But unfortunately Ash didn't realise Paul & Harry were setting her up :bored: .


Miles should have gone in the dungeon in her place,as nobody suspected him as a traitor. And he's quiet and just sits back . He was pushed into a corner and had to vote her out to protect himself.

I'm annoyed Paul's plan worked in his favour,but it was nice seeing Andrew get saved instead of him lmao ...as
Paul is way too cocky and he thinks he runs the castle
with his level of popularity. He's playing them all like a fiddle.

I really hope he slips up , his little facade around the round table was so transparent. I can't believe he's hoodwinked everyone. Well everyone except Zack & Jaz who I really hope stay :fc: . They're the 2 smartest and they don't follow the crowd.

[Ammi]

…(..I think…)…it’s been a bit of a shake down for Paul anyway because he really expected to be the one who the group saved, as opposed to Andrew….he’d put so much faith himself in being voted ‘most popular’ and has fairly much felt in control because of that…but he’s been shaken out of that ‘comfort’ now and the idea has been planted for the group to watch him more carefully…Harry is the one that no one seems to have suspected yet, I don’t think anyone has seriously looked in his direction ….I think Miles might have had some round table attention in the past but I might be incorrect about that….

[rusticgal]

Exactly
Imagine being dumb enough to put yourself in the dungeon when the other players already suspect you of being a traitor , I mean I could see what she was trying to do....with the whole ' double bluff' angle, but you would want to stay under the radar and shift attention away as anything standing out is a bad look. But unfortunately Ash didn't realise Paul & Harry were setting her up :bored: .


Miles should have gone in the dungeon in her place,as nobody suspected him as a traitor. And he's quiet and just sits back . He was pushed into a corner and had to vote her out to protect himself.

I'm annoyed Paul's plan worked in his favour,but it was nice seeing Andrew get saved instead of him lmao ...as
Paul is way too cocky and he thinks he runs the castle
with his level of popularity. He's playing them all like a fiddle.

I really hope he slips up , his little facade around the round table was so transparent. I can't believe he's hoodwinked everyone. Well everyone except Zack & Jaz who I really hope stay :fc: . They're the 2 smartest and they don't follow the crowd.


He is extremely cocky….I’m dying to see them turn on him.

[Vanessa]

Finally they got one. I wonder who will be next?

[GoldHeart]

Surely Paul not getting murdered is a big give away he's a traitor, the other player's are too clueless & hopeless . It seems Zak & Jaz are the only ones who are onto Paul's game .

[Mystic Mock]

I went from finding Zack annoying to actually wanting him to stay now , and Jaz is more outspoken now and he needs to stay aswell.

Paul would be pretty thick if he murders Jaz now , Jaz made it clear he had his suspicions about Paul . That would be Paul over playing his hand imo...and it's already bad enough he succeeded in his dungeon double bluff :fist:.

I hope that both Zack and Jaz stay.

And hopefully Anthony can keep grinding through as well.:fc:

And I agree with you that it wouldn't be smart for Paul to murder Jaz, but he does strike me as an impulsive player rather than a great tactician, I could see him murdering Jaz due to panicking that Jaz is saying his name to other people.

I've got to say btw that if I was in the game I would be highly suspicious of Ross and Charlotte, they keep ringleading Faithfuls to be eliminated, I would see that as massive Traitor like behaviour, I know that it would be wrong guesses, but they would be on my radar.

I think if I was one of the Faithfuls, these would be my prime suspects.

1. Paul - He is the only one who has any evidence to suggest that he is a Traitor, plus he does say stuff that I feel gives him away when talking to people imo, I honestly don't think that he'd be that hard to guess tbh.

2. Ross - Ross would be my second choice because of the Sonja elimination, he was the ringleader of her elimination, and I would not think that Sonja was a Traitor. And then add that he was one of the ringleaders of Johnny's elimination last night, that again would make me think that he is deliberately planting seeds to eliminate Faithfuls because he is a Traitor. I do wonder if some of the Faithfuls will unfortunately for them see it the same way as I would if I were a contestant.

3. Harry - I personally would note his general demeanor and the fact that he tried to target Zack to be banished, would make me suspicious of Harry because I wouldn't think that Zack is a Traitor for the most part (only his defense of Ash would make me slightly suspect him) but nothing like I would suspect with Harry, I just think it's easy to see what his strategy is imo.

4. Charlotte - I would be suspicious of Charlotte if I was in the game due to how shifty she can be, plus again she votes wrong 100% of the time, and tries to lead people down the wrong path in the banishment ceremonies, that would make me think suspect that she's doing that because she's a Traitor.

5. Dianne - There's two reasons why I would suspect Dianne.

1. Her outburst towards Anthony in episode 2 I think it was, at the banishment ceremony. It would make me highly suspicious that she's trying to set a Faithful up to be banished because she might be a Traitor.

And 2. Her cheering when Sonja revealed that she was a Faithful, it's clearly suspicious behaviour for obvious reasons.

Miles and Jaz I would have mild suspicion towards, but like with Zack it wouldn't be anything major like the other five.

Yet there are contestants throwing guesses at Johnny & Anthony.:joker:

What on Earth kind of clues make these people think of them two as being suspicious?:joker:

A very entertaining and dysfunctional year though.

[Mystic Mock]

Surely Paul not getting murdered is a big give away he's a traitor, the other player's are too clueless & hopeless . It seems Zak & Jaz are the only ones who are onto Paul's game .

Tbf Anthony & Evie are suspicious of Paul to some extent as well.

[GoldHeart]

Tbf Anthony & Evie are suspicious of Paul to some extent as well.

Yeah but Evie will basically be a sheep in the end.

I think Anthony,Zak & Jaz know they have to tread carefully , as they don't want to draw attention to themselves.

I like how Jaz told some of them " Hey guys if I get murdered just remember I told you it's Paul " :joker: , just for that alone i want Jaz to stay ...as he's so clever.

And to respond to your other comments about Diane,Ross & Charlotte I 100% agree ,if I was in The game I would be suspicious of those 3 from the beginning especially Diane .

I can't believe people haven't twigged at her connection with Ross yet :facepalm:, they're not even discreet anymore about their little secret chats . One of the
players caught them leaving a room looking shifty ,but it
went over their head still .

Diane & Ross are orchestrating so much in there , if the traitors know what's good for them then they'd murder Diane or Charlotte, but I think Diane would be the best outcome ...as it will split up the alliance she has with Ross, they both have alot of influence . But I won't miss Charlotte either ,if they murder Tracy then it will be pointless .

I don't know where they're getting some clues from either , Johnny didn't even seem that guilty . He just was a competitive guy and he wanted to do well in the challenges. I hope this backfires on Harry ,I'm fed up of people seeing him as the innocent baby of the group :rolleyes:.

[Ammi]

Surely Paul not getting murdered is a big give away he's a traitor, the other player's are too clueless & hopeless . It seems Zak & Jaz are the only ones who are onto Paul's game .

…Paul has become such an obvious direction for the faithfuls to look toward in the round table but there still seems a lot of reluctance, doesn’t there…?…its strange because some are suspected because of the most simple thing…an expression they had or a single small action that didn't really indicate anything…or maybe how they said something or the timing of saying something etc…you know…it can be the smallest and simplest of things that cause someone to be suspected as a traitor…but was the real reason just because someone or a group didn’t warm to them/to their personality…because with Paul, he’s obviously very popular as a ‘likeable’ person so because of that, what is absolutely glaring and obvious …is just being completely side stepped…it really is great at showing the psychology of ‘group behaviour’….

…I did think in general though that last night’s episode wasn’t so riveting because the cliffhangers left the day before were just really badly thought out…we obviously knew Meg was going to be killed and Ash didn’t leave any clues or help point toward the others, which was disappointing…I wonder, are they going to replace Ash with another traitor….

[GoldHeart]

…Paul has become such an obvious direction for the faithfuls to look toward in the round table but there still seems a lot of reluctance, doesn’t there…?…its strange because some are suspected because of the most simple thing…an expression they had or a single small action that didn't really indicate anything…or maybe how they said something or the timing of saying something etc…you know…it can be the smallest and simplest of things that cause someone to be suspected as a traitor…but was the real reason just because someone or a group didn’t warm to them/to their personality…because with Paul, he’s obviously very popular as a ‘likeable’ person so because of that, what is absolutely glaring and obvious …is just being completely side stepped…it really is great at showing the psychology of ‘group behaviour’….

…I did think in general though that last night’s episode wasn’t so riveting because the cliffhangers left the day before were just really badly thought out…we obviously knew Meg was going to be killed and Ash didn’t leave any clues or help point toward the others, which was disappointing…I wonder, are they going to replace Ash with another traitor….

I had to rewatch it this morning as I missed crucial bits as I was so tired & sleepy . Anthony & Zak have basically put targets on their backs now with their tone deaf squabbling :facepalm: . Players are turning on eachother rather than working together which is really frustrating and annoying to see.

Anthony spoke truths at the table about why Paul should be on their radar, but some people are still throwing accusations back at Anthony. They're not very bright.

Jaz is one of the best players , he's just calmly pointing out obvious facts about Paul whilst covering his back in a smart way with " if I get murdered remember what I say" :joker: . The only mistake was Jaz also confiding in Harry.

I know they get paranoid and they suspect the slightest of things , but the hold Paul has over the group is ridiculous.... it's looking them straight in the face but they won't accept it . The reason for going for Johnny didn't make sense either , he's been the same and hasn't acted strange at all .

I actually felt sorry for him. And the players acting all devastated that they've failed to vote another traitor out just makes me think what a bunch of dummies lol.

And Harry literally pulled a Wilf and left the table crying dramatically after he voted Johnny , which you would think would raise eyebrows with the faithfuls around the table that Harry could be up to something. They have fallen hook line and sinker for his little baby act :rolleyes: .

I want Charlotte or Diane to get murdered ,but now thinking about it ....I'm worried it might put suspicion back onto Anthony :facepalm: .

[rusticgal]

Surely Paul not getting murdered is a big give away he's a traitor, the other player's are too clueless & hopeless . It seems Zak & Jaz are the only ones who are onto Paul's game .


I know they are all thick....the Traitors get rid of the strongest.

[GoldHeart]

I know they are all thick....the Traitors get rid of the strongest.

Paul & Harry could both bend over and break wind in everyone's faces , and most of the players would still be convinced they're 'genuine faithfuls', and how there's no possible way they're lying :bored: . There's so much sucking up to Paul & mollycoddling of Harry .

I think Zak & Anthony are highly at risk now of being banished. They both need their heads knocking together, they're turning on eachother instead of working as a team.

[Vanessa]

I think they're on to Harry. He gave the game away at the round table. I was screaming at him to shut up :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

I legit don't care anymore if the traitors win



The faithfuls bar Jaz are too thick as cement. It was obvious Anthony wasn't a traitor, but they've been targeting him just because he's confident and has a serious personality.

They did the same thing with Johnny , another player who was also 100% genuine and both Johnny & Anthony put everything into the challenges aswell. both were strong assets to the team, and people felt threatened. Yet once they get rid of Anthony they all act gutted with "aww he was good at challenges aswell" , no sh1t sherlock .

Anthony had the best comeback "just let that sink in 8 -1 down ! " :joker:, which Claudia kindly confirmed. If i was Anthony i'd laugh at how wrong they've got it, as i hold my head high and give them a cheerful wave goodbye.

He tried to warn them, and they wouldn't listen . And Paul is staring them smack bang in the face, yet nobody wants to vote him and they refuse to believe he's a traitor except for Jaz who seems to be the only one with any brains in the game. But because he's on his own ... he has to strategically put Paul on the back burner now . Otherwise it would put Jaz himself in hot water.

The whole Poisonous chalice situation was laughable aswell , atleast 3 faithfuls walked past the library where Miles , Harry & Paul were whispering .. and nobody suspected or noticed a thing . Even when they sneaked off outside, again nobody twigged or put 2 & 2 together .


It looks like Diane is getting murdered, but with that cliffhanger .... i wonder if there's a twist and maybe she'll let someone else sip the chalice first. But we have to wait another 5 days to find out .

So yeah i have no concerns anymore ... if the faithfuls lose all the prize fund now lmao , they've handed it to Paul, Harry & Miles on a silver platter. They've made it so easy for the traitors, and the traitors are laughing in their faces . So they've only themselves to blame when they keep ripping eachother to bits, banishing faithful after faithful as they all get murdered and picked off 1 by 1 :whistle:. They are the worst at clues and game playing.

I'm only rooting for Jaz now , most of the other players are too blind,dopey, hopeless , argumentative or dysfunctional to see what's in front of them.

If Paul , Harry & Miles actually get to the final and pull this off and WIN , it will be a picture to see ... as the remaining faithfuls sit there looking goofy and silly and feeling foolish with themselves LOL . And if Jaz makes it to the end fingers crossed, then he can say "i told you so guys" :smug: .

[Mystic Mock]

The Faithfuls were really ****ing dumb suspecting Anthony.

From their perspective they should be looking at Paul, Ross and Charlotte, they're the most suspicious players now that Diane might be getting murdered, from a Faithful's perspective anyway.

[LaLaLand]

The Faithful are completely oblivious apart from Jaz really.

Paul infuriates me but ngl I'm rooting for him, he'd deserve to rob the money with such a terrible Faithful.

REALLY hope Diane survives The Poisoned Chalice SOMEHOW! They made such a deal of her and Ross being Mum/Son it'd be a waste for them to not utilise that dynamic and implement it into the game - recruit Diane as a Traitor and don't tell Ross I say. Add another level of treachery! :fc:

[Ammi]

…oh LaLa, that would be a treacherous twist, wouldn’t it…I hadn’t thought of that…I assumed that Diane would be going but they could create that choice of her staying as a Traitor…and that would work out well as they’re short one Traitor anyway from the four they had…

…Harry really is playing a great game I have to say and Paul is like the golden child and just generally seems above suspicion from most…it was so funny last night at how many people passed the library, saw the door open and saw the 3 traitors in there but just completely passed it all without comment…:laugh:…and way to go traitors, Diane is so strong in the tasks and helped add so much to the money pot with that last task so hmmmmmmm, what to do about that…oh yeah, well give her the chalice and send her home…:laugh:…such a crazy group of faithfuls…

[Ammi]

…on a side note, I WANT Claudia’s red fingerless gloves, I love them….shes such a style-easta….:lovedup:…

[Ammi]

…oh, on another side note…Jaz’ story about his father having another family and wanting to win the money to help rebuild his family…so devastatingly heartbreaking….

[GoldHeart]

The Faithfuls were really ****ing dumb suspecting Anthony.

From their perspective they should be looking at Paul, Ross and Charlotte, they're the most suspicious players now that Diane might be getting murdered, from a Faithful's perspective anyway.

Did you read my spoiler message Mock ?.

And yeah Dumb and predictable,I knew they'd target Anthony. His name kept getting brought up. That roundtable was infuriating, they're just voting people they
dislike instead of actual suspicious people .

All they had on Anthony was how his behaviour supposedly changed since the platform,which is exactly the tired ridiculous narrative they pushed with Johnny aswell :notimpressed:. Yet other players can dominate/ sway votes and influence votes ,and it goes over their heads. Thick as 2 short planks lmao .

I don't even like the 3 traitors , but good luck to them . As the faithfuls are so awful....they deserve the money pinched from under their eyes.

This year has the worst faithfuls , except for Jaz . He is on his own when it comes to logic....the poor guy. He's the only faithful I like.

[GoldHeart]

…oh, on another side note…Jaz’ story about his father having another family and wanting to win the money to help rebuild his family…so devastatingly heartbreaking….

Ikr
He's also the smartest there aswell, it's ashame he can't win the whole show on his own. The other faithfuls are dragging him down .

[Ammi]

…the voting on the round table is often very fragmented and spread out with so many names getting one vote or one or two votes because there doesn’t seem to be any behaviour studying…I mean, some of Paul’s recent behaviour has screamed TRAITOR but the group feeling is that he’s a nice guy so let’s keep him…:laugh:…he’s effortlessly killing them off one by one…mind you, Harry is playing the game so well because he’s barely come under any suspicion at all…as he said, he’s playing as if he’s a faithful….

[UserSince2005]

Paul is an absolute sociopath.
Cannot stand the man.
Luckily he ain’t that smart and keeps making silly game moves
Hopefully he is gone next.
Harry is a little psycho sociopath too but seems to be playing the game better.

Wish they would get traitors that played the game smart like Amanda last season.

[GoldHeart]

Paul is an absolute sociopath.
Cannot stand the man.
Luckily he ain’t that smart and keeps making silly game moves
Hopefully he is gone next.
Harry is a little psycho sociopath too but seems to be playing the game better.

Wish they would get traitors that played the game smart like Amanda last season.

Amanda wasn't that smart,she let Wilf throw her under the bus and accepted defeat. She told him she'd strike him like a dragon ,but when it came to the crunch ....she just left.

[UserSince2005]

Amanda wasn't that smart,she let Wilf throw her under the bus and accepted defeat. She told him she'd strike him like a dragon ,but when it came to the crunch ....she just left.

Because she realised Wilf was a monster willing to swear on his kids to try and win. You can’t compete against plain dumb sociopaths

[Cal.]

These faithfuls are very dumb. I am enjoying this series but I think last year's cast was far better. I am only really rooting for Diane, Ross and Jaz this time around.

[jet]

These faithfuls are very dumb. I am enjoying this series but I think last year's cast was far better. I am only really rooting for Diane, Ross and Jaz this time around.

Same here - and I also like the girl Charley.
Can't wait for tonights episode, but its over too quickly - it needs another half hour! :hee:

[LaLaLand]

Counting down the hours until 9pm here. :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Did you read my spoiler message Mock ?.

And yeah Dumb and predictable,I knew they'd target Anthony. His name kept getting brought up. That roundtable was infuriating, they're just voting people they
dislike instead of actual suspicious people .

All they had on Anthony was how his behaviour supposedly changed since the platform,which is exactly the tired ridiculous narrative they pushed with Johnny aswell :notimpressed:. Yet other players can dominate/ sway votes and influence votes ,and it goes over their heads. Thick as 2 short planks lmao .

I don't even like the 3 traitors , but good luck to them . As the faithfuls are so awful....they deserve the money pinched from under their eyes.

This year has the worst faithfuls , except for Jaz . He is on his own when it comes to logic....the poor guy. He's the only faithful I like.

I did, and tbh I can't really disagree with much of what you've said in that post.

And I agree with you that the Faithfuls are playing personal, the only reason they have Ash is because Paul and Harry didn't like her, otherwise the Faithfuls probably wouldn't have got her either.

The Faithfuls are too busy treating the game like it's a social popularity contest like Big Brother, but really from their perspective they should be playing it more like Golden Balls, or a Sherlock Holmes Mystery Novel.

I mean tbf though if all of the contestants did the right strategies then we wouldn't have much to discuss, so I like the ****ed up strategies in that sense.:joker:

[GoldHeart]

I did, and tbh I can't really disagree with much of what you've said in that post.

And I agree with you that the Faithfuls are playing personal, the only reason they have Ash is because Paul and Harry didn't like her, otherwise the Faithfuls probably wouldn't have got her either.

The Faithfuls are too busy treating the game like it's a social popularity contest like Big Brother, but really from their perspective they should be playing it more like Golden Balls, or a Sherlock Holmes Mystery Novel.

I mean tbf though if all of the contestants did the right strategies then we wouldn't have much to discuss, so I like the ****ed up strategies in that sense.:joker:

I actually want the faithfuls to lose now to teach them a lesson of how thick and clueless they've been, they've
annoyed me too much . I only like Jaz lol . I hope he still gets to the final.

Exactly it's not a popularity contest , they're the worst for strategy. I'll just laugh when Zak gets himself banished...can tell it's going to happen. Their mindset including Zak is " well you're a bad faithful so you need to go " , they're so stupid :joker: :bored: .

[Ammi]

…I’m still thinking that there will be some kind of twist/producer intervention…:laugh:…and that Diane won’t be killed by the chalice tonight…maybe she didn’t drink from it before the clock struck midnight, hmmmmmmmm…..

[Ammi]

…also…why did they not replace Ash as a Traitor…(…and I don’t think that Miles will be very long in following her as being outed at the round table..)…maybe Diane will be offered a choice to become a Traitor…


…I’m just looking for ways for her to stay, I guess…as I don’t want her to go…

[BBQuest]

…also…why did they not replace Ash as a Traitor…(…and I don’t think that Miles will be very long in following her as being outed at the round table..)…maybe Diane will be offered a choice to become a Traitor…


…I’m just looking for ways for her to stay, I guess…as I don’t want her to go…

Going by the Radio Times listing for Friday's ep, it could be said that there's going to be a recruitment in Thursday's ep. Not sure it'll be Diane though, really depends on whether she drinks the poison chalice or not.

[Ammi]

Going by the Radio Times listing for Friday's ep, it could be said that there's going to be a recruitment in Thursday's ep. Not sure it'll be Diane though, really depends on whether she drinks the poison chalice or not.

….it was so close to the deadline, the clock was chiming in the background…so I’m thinking…(…hoping…)…that she didn’t drink before midnight struck….and ooooooo, a new recruit, exciting….I hope another male isn’t chosen and that we can have some balance of male/female…

[Ammi]

…the funeral procession is so creepy and morbid and epic…

[Ammi]

…such a weird thing for Ross to go through also…I know it’s a game and not real but it would still feel quite horrific, I think…

[Ammi]

….I think Paul has secured the trust of most again as a perceived faithful and Harry I don’t think has even been suspected barely yet…

[rusticgal]

They will recruit Zach I think…


But didn’t Zach say he was coming for Paul if miles went…??

[Vanessa]

I'm catching up now.

[Vanessa]

Harry and Paul are playing a great game
I think they'll definitely make the final.
Miles was unlucky. The glass gave it away.

[Vanessa]

I wonder who they recruited. Maybe Andrew?

[Mystic Mock]

I actually want the faithfuls to lose now to teach them a lesson of how thick and clueless they've been, they've
annoyed me too much . I only like Jaz lol . I hope he still gets to the final.

Exactly it's not a popularity contest , they're the worst for strategy. I'll just laugh when Zak gets himself banished...can tell it's going to happen. Their mindset including Zak is " well you're a bad faithful so you need to go " , they're so stupid :joker: :bored: .

I like Jaz and Zack personally.

Tbh the Traitors themselves are the duller side for me this season, the Show has to do twists just to make them appear interesting.

I'm wanting a Faithful to win, even if their strategy is awful.:joker:

[jet]

Harry and Paul are playing a great game
I think they'll definitely make the final.
Miles was unlucky. The glass gave it away.

He put up an impressive fight at the round table though.
It's a shame it wasnt enough because most of the others are too weak to vote for Paul.
It was an intense show tonight, very gripping!

[UserSince2005]

Dirty rats that Harry and Paul are, jumping on Miles at the first chance, fueling the drink theory. After he did the dirty work for them. Deserve nothing but to lose. Traitors shouldnt be allowed to out other traitors, im sure that actually a rule of the game when they take their oath at the start.

[LaLaLand]

Tonight's episode was absolutely fantastic.

[Strictly Jake]

Best episode yet. I'm in mourning for Dianne though :bawling:

[Ammi]

Dirty rats that Harry and Paul are, jumping on Miles at the first chance, fueling the drink theory. After he did the dirty work for them. Deserve nothing but to lose. Traitors shouldnt be allowed to out other traitors, im sure that actually a rule of the game when they take their oath at the start.

…I feel in that situation they didn’t really have any choice but to ‘offer’ a Traitor up for sacrifice because they’d all more or less narrowed it down to being a drink that was poisoned…and as much as I like Miles as a person, he never seemed quite comfortable being a traitor…I thought last night though when they were choosing another, they were choosing a ‘patsy’ as they described it, rather than an ally..?…so maybe that was their intention with Miles from the beginning and the time had come for him to be slotted into that purpose…?…they played a great game…Paul’s emotional ‘performances’ helped him to secure his place of trust for now…but hmmmmmm, I feel that we’re not too far away from Harry and Paul looking at each other to expose …and that’s going to be so interesting because they’re both playing the game brilliantly….

….last night was so dark and so tense, it was like watching a drama…the series has definitely not lost any of its season one brilliance…:love:…

[GoldHeart]

I'm behind now , didn't see last night's episode.

But I'm not surprised at the outcome, Miles is silly....
didn't he realise he'd be suspected with the poisonous
chalice. Paul is the puppet master setting them all up to fail ,first Ash now Miles ,be interesting to see if greed gets the better of him and if he throws Harry under the bus,so far those 2 seem thick as thieves.

I would not want to be a traitor along those 2, as they're close knit,and clearly they will stab anyone in the back. But I'd sure as hell try my best to take down atleast one of them with me. I haven't watched Miles round table yet ,but Ash was ridiculous :bored: .

Paul & Harry really are as sneaky as snakes ,they slip in and out of situations. And the faithfuls are too gormless and blind to notice anything. All the blame has gone on
Miles , despite the fact there had to be other traitors involved ...do they think he planned it all on his own
:joker: :crazy: .

Paul is loving it as he can get other people to be in the firing line , while he protects his own skin. Why didn't he give Diane the poisonous chalice :whistle:

[UserSince2005]

Im fed up with all these silly boys playing Wilfs game.
Wilf was rubbish, his game was rubbish, hence why he didnt win and could never have won.
Would have love to see a group of traitors just support each other and actually play a good game.
It should be banned for traitors to outwardly suggest other traitors to the group.
If one of these traitors does win it will only be because they started off as a group of 4 and not a group of 3 and so the faithfuls miscalculate how many traitors there are at the end.

[Ammi]

….whoa, Harry…:laugh:…and still no one suspects him to be a Traitor…

[UserSince2005]

Paul thinking he is a good traitor.
He so full of himself.
Feck off.
making his legs shake in the coffin to try and show he was really scared was the pinnacle. what a joke.

And what the **** was that bow at the end as though he had done a good job. PATHETIC.

[Ammi]

Paul thinking he is a good traitor.
He so full of himself.
Feck off.
making his legs shake in the coffin to try and show he was really scared was the pinnacle. what a joke.

And what the **** was that bow at the end as though he had done a good job. PATHETIC.

…he still took the credit when he didn’t survive the table…’Harry learnt brilliantly from me…’….ooop….

[UserSince2005]

…he still took the credit when he didn’t survive the table…’Harry learnt brilliantly from me…’….ooop….

what a bizarre person.

[Vanessa]

I want Harry to win.

[rusticgal]

So all of a sudden Harry turns on Paul who he has never mentioned before for obvious reasons….and now becomes a hero. It’s obvious to them all now that Paul turned on one of his own last night with Miles….and with a mere mention of Harry’s name Harry led the charge out of the blue on Paul…
I hope someone with an ounce of sense will see that Harry has acted in self defence…

[UserSince2005]

So all of a sudden Harry turns on Paul who he has never mentioned before for obvious reasons….and now becomes a hero. It’s obvious to them all now that Paul turned on one of his own last night with Miles….and with a mere mention of Harry’s name Harry led the charge out of the blue on Paul…
I hope someone with an ounce of sense will see that Harry has acted in self defence…

And Harrys full detailed speech of Paul's whole game and then "thats why I think your a traitor".
How can any of the believe he just recalled it all there and then in a light bulb moment?
Harry can't have long left surely.
What a strange season this will be.

[Mystic Mock]

Dirty rats that Harry and Paul are, jumping on Miles at the first chance, fueling the drink theory. After he did the dirty work for them. Deserve nothing but to lose. Traitors shouldnt be allowed to out other traitors, im sure that actually a rule of the game when they take their oath at the start.

Technically they didn't out Miles, they "guessed" him under the guise of being Faithfuls.

On last night's episode, I thought that Paul took his elimination well tbf to him.

I do expect Andrew to be a bitter player if Harry betrays him in one of the upcoming Banishment Ceremonies.

[GoldHeart]

So all of a sudden Harry turns on Paul who he has never mentioned before for obvious reasons….and now becomes a hero. It’s obvious to them all now that Paul turned on one of his own last night with Miles….and with a mere mention of Harry’s name Harry led the charge out of the blue on Paul…
I hope someone with an ounce of sense will see that Harry has acted in self defence…

Paul did too much and got himself banished , as he was too cocky and behaved unbalanced, he sabotaged himself . I actually had a feeling 1 of them would turn on eachother after Miles left. I'm glad Miles defended himself and put the attention back onto Paul lmao.

Paul has created a monster in Harry, he's so full of himself now ... he's basically the new Paul , and the whole group thinks the sun shines out of Harry's backside which is cringy to see. Even Jaz who started to suspect Harry has started believing Harry is genuine just because he helped banish Paul:facepalm:, when logically they should be thinking it's a traitor just getting rid of another traitor so he can get further in the game and win it for himself. They saw exactly what happened with Ash & Miles , yet they still think Harry is a faithful ... oh dear completely clueless.

Them all calling Harry the 'Hero' is just making his head bigger, and he will continue to control the narrative, they all seem to be forgetting Jaz was the one who originally suspected Paul .... all of a sudden Harry is the one they're thanking :rolleyes:, they're going to look so silly with egg on their faces when Harry not only gets to the final but actually steals the prize money from
under their noses .

Andrew has to just go along with it as he knows how dirty and sneaky Harry can be and he's scared he'll throw him under the bus. It seems to be textbook for traitors to try and get too greedy an too clever and over play their hand, which is exactly what Paul did.

I'm not liking how this is playing out , it's obvious Jaz is the next one to be banished which will honestly make me lose interest, as he was one of my favourite players. I would rather a boring annoying faithful goes like Charlotte or Zak or someone. Zak & Ross are dreadful players... one minute Zak is agreeing about Paul then he's ganging up on Jaz, the very same person he was confiding in . Then he has a bust up with Charlotte, but seem too scared to mention her at the round table .


Jaz speaking out has basically put a target on his back which is ridiculous , when other people like Charlotte , Ross ,Zak and Jasmine act weird and shifty themselves.

And Jaz was right about Evie etc, they say things outside but when it comes to the round table discussions, they stay quite. They're basically weak and scared.

Infact Charlie , Evie & the other blond woman (i forgot her name) seem to just merge into 1 person. They never contribute much to roundtables and they just hide in the background. I actually kept forgetting their names and mixing them up . So if one of them gets murdered it won't be a great big loss :idc: .

[GoldHeart]

Technically they didn't out Miles, they "guessed" him under the guise of being Faithfuls.

On last night's episode, I thought that Paul took his elimination well tbf to him.

I do expect Andrew to be a bitter player if Harry betrays him in one of the upcoming Banishment Ceremonies.

I hate how Jaz has a target on his back now , so once Harry & Andrew get Jaz banished, Harry will do whatever he can to win... and he will 100% throw Andrew under the bus and he'll enjoy it aswell . Look how happy he was when he banished Paul, Harry is a ruthless back stabbing snake. He sees everyone in the game as pawns , and he will only keep Andrew if nobody suspects Andrew.. otherwise he'll dispose of him like gabage.

Andrew will probably just stitch himself up further and get bitter and angry, if he gets any heat from Harry. It really looks like Harry is getting to the final , unless he really makes a clumsy error now and slips up . He's laughing to the bank with the prize money. And egg will be all over the faces of the remaining faithfuls.


Again the faithfuls are just clueless to the obvious facts and suspicious behaviour , if they suspected Paul from the whole dungeon situation... then why not vote him out from then. most of them continued kissing up to him, treating him like the golden boy. It feels like they're only catching traitors now after being hit over the head with very sharp evidence ie the poisonous chalice which would always come back to Miles after Diane's death and Paul over playing his hand and being too popular.

Jaz was always right about Paul , and he was onto Harry then he's backtracked now which is frustrating to see.


I don't think we'll ever get traitors being completely loyal with eachother, they always seem to get too greedy & selfish. I know it's a game... but the oath they take as a traitor, like they're working together as a team is hilarious.... when we all know it's a brutal game with every man for themselves. If i was a traitor i would never trust the other traitors , and i would take them down with me if they tried throwing me to the wolves LOL.

Kieran was probably the best traitor last year.... He played the game as best he could , but he was betrayed and the odds were stacked against him, so he dragged Wilf down with him in a spectacular way , which will always be ICONIC :joker: :clap1: .

[LaLaLand]

The only ones left I actually wouldn't mind winning are Harry, Jaz and Zack. Would have included Ross too but he's just clueless sadly. He was utterly convinced Paul was a Faithful. Oops-

Sadly, if Harry's in the final that obviously means he's taking all the money but he'd have very much earnt it if he does, so c'est la vie. His takedown of Paul tonight was incredible. I was almost jumping up and down in my seat! :joker:

I don't think Andrew's gonna last very long now he's been recruited - he's too on edge.

The three blonde girls aren't really bringing anything, neither is Catherine except being quite snipey with people (especially Zack who she clearly has not liked for whatever reason since the beginning).

[Ammi]

…it’s all just so messy…:laugh:…it’s such a compelling watch but a lot of that is for the wrong reasons of having faithfuls who just don’t seem to be using their thinking and reliant on their emotions of who they trust in the group…

[Ammi]

…the Traitors…(…as in Harry and Paul…)…have really created a situation of ‘mistrust’ within the Traitors, that surely creates a weakness as we’re seeing now because Andrew has been recruited but didn’t have the trust from the beginning…but now there will be even less…I might be wrong but I can’t see Harry winning this as a lone wolf player…if he does then well done him…but I think that he must have surely drawn suspicion to himself when all have the faithfuls have time to absorb the events and how it’s all unfolding…the only time that a Traitor seems to be very involved in the finger pointing and takes the lead etc…is when they’re pointing that finger at another Traitor…and the others most surely begin to see that…it’s also showing the faithfuls that the traitors are not acting as a team, they’re acting alone and will quite easily throw another one to the table to save themselves…but Harry was too eager, I feel…that wasn’t a clever move at this time because now it’s left only two Traitors and one of those is a brand new recruit who is unpredictable to him atm…how can that be smart and shrewd etc…?…the Traitors corner is just becoming a no trust area and it needed t9 be the opposite until much later in the game…having said that, the faithfuls are a bit clueless also, so it might work out, hmmmmmmm….its such a messy season…:laugh:…

[Mystic Mock]

I hate how Jaz has a target on his back now , so once Harry & Andrew get Jaz banished, Harry will do whatever he can to win... and he will 100% throw Andrew under the bus and he'll enjoy it aswell . Look how happy he was when he banished Paul, Harry is a ruthless back stabbing snake. He sees everyone in the game as pawns , and he will only keep Andrew if nobody suspects Andrew.. otherwise he'll dispose of him like gabage.

Andrew will probably just stitch himself up further and get bitter and angry, if he gets any heat from Harry. It really looks like Harry is getting to the final , unless he really makes a clumsy error now and slips up . He's laughing to the bank with the prize money. And egg will be all over the faces of the remaining faithfuls.


Again the faithfuls are just clueless to the obvious facts and suspicious behaviour , if they suspected Paul from the whole dungeon situation... then why not vote him out from then. most of them continued kissing up to him, treating him like the golden boy. It feels like they're only catching traitors now after being hit over the head with very sharp evidence ie the poisonous chalice which would always come back to Miles after Diane's death and Paul over playing his hand and being too popular.

Jaz was always right about Paul , and he was onto Harry then he's backtracked now which is frustrating to see.


I don't think we'll ever get traitors being completely loyal with eachother, they always seem to get too greedy & selfish. I know it's a game... but the oath they take as a traitor, like they're working together as a team is hilarious.... when we all know it's a brutal game with every man for themselves. If i was a traitor i would never trust the other traitors , and i would take them down with me if they tried throwing me to the wolves LOL.

Kieran was probably the best traitor last year.... He played the game as best he could , but he was betrayed and the odds were stacked against him, so he dragged Wilf down with him in a spectacular way , which will always be ICONIC :joker: :clap1: .

Looking at it I think that the next four out will be Charlie, Zack, Jaz & Andrew, unless Harry slips up somehow.

I'm going to guess that Jaz or Zack are getting banished, as I think that Charlie will be murdered by the Traitors in the next episode.

[GoldHeart]

The only ones left I actually wouldn't mind winning are Harry, Jaz and Zack. Would have included Ross too but he's just clueless sadly. He was utterly convinced Paul was a Faithful. Oops-

Sadly, if Harry's in the final that obviously means he's taking all the money but he'd have very much earnt it if he does, so c'est la vie. His takedown of Paul tonight was incredible. I was almost jumping up and down in my seat! :joker:

I don't think Andrew's gonna last very long now he's been recruited - he's too on edge.

The three blonde girls aren't really bringing anything, neither is Catherine except being quite snipey with people (especially Zack who she clearly has not liked for whatever reason since the beginning).

Charlotte is so defensive and snappy, I actually wish they'd banish her, but weirdly they're keeping her in :conf:,which makes no sense when she acts way more suspicious than Jaz . She is so negative and it rubs off on Jasmine aswell who I originally liked until she voted Anthony out and got a bad attitude .

Zak is just as bad as Ross , Zak kept talking privately with Jaz like he's on his side ,then he goes and points the finger at Jaz :bored: . Both Ross& Zak have turned everyone on Jaz which is mad. Ross was never a good player but he's gotten worse after his mum's departure.

Like I said I mixed the 3 blondes up ,they merge into one . They are coasting through by being boring and quiet and not stepping up , and I won't miss any of them much . Yeah I think Charlie will be murdered as well,but if they murder Zak then it will sadly go back back to Jaz as the guilty one ...so the traitors might have done that to be sneaky again.

…it’s all just so messy…:laugh:…it’s such a compelling watch but a lot of that is for the wrong reasons of having faithfuls who just don’t seem to be using their thinking and reliant on their
emotions of who they trust in the group…

It really is messy, the Traitors have caused alot of distrust among everyone. They keep voting eachother out yet nobody had clocked onto Harry betraying a fellow traitor,which has literally been the reoccurring pattern lmao :facepalm: , I'm still hoping he slips up ..as he's getting way too cocky. And he's loving having Andrew in his pocket ready to dispose of or when he
feels like it . Andrew will follow Harry's every lead to save
himself,but he's so nervous who knows.



Looking at it I think that the next four out will be Charlie, Zack, Jaz & Andrew, unless Harry slips up somehow.

I'm going to guess that Jaz or Zack are getting banished, as I think that Charlie will be murdered by the Traitors in the next episode.

Jaz is a goner next , I'm so annoyed as I wanted him in the final...he actually makes it interesting and seems a nice guy . And it's funny that he voted Andrew twice as now Andrew has been recruited,but he just doesn't know that . And understandably he suspects Ross...as Ross was awful throwing accusations his way whilst defending Paul to the highest ,he really is delusional that Ross .

And isn't it weird that Jaz and Zak can have private discussions and people jump on the bandwagon of " oh they must be Traitors plotting", yet Zak & Harry also have been whispering a bit ,and non of them have noticed the difference in Harry ,or the way he's been planting seeds.

Suddenly he was gunning for Paul and had this fire in his stomach to get him out . You would think they'd see through Harry ,but like I said he's become the new Paul ,and they all think he's perfect and good as gold ....wow i'm just waiting to see if he over plays his hand with greed and loses it all like what Paul did ,when he got too theatrical and arrogant.

Harry thinks and knows he controls the game , it's gone to his head . Let's see how long he keeps Andrew by his side . He will drop him off it will help him win.

[rusticgal]

And Harrys full detailed speech of Paul's whole game and then "thats why I think your a traitor".
How can any of the believe he just recalled it all there and then in a light bulb moment?
Harry can't have long left surely.
What a strange season this will be.


Exactly...he never expressed any of his suspicions of Paul over the Dungeon thing or at any other time for obvious reasons...rattled by him starting to betray him and then suddenly this massive turn on him the night after Paul had betrayed another Traitor...

...why is no one seeing this :shrug: now he is a hero...Jaz and Zach were the heroes but no one has listened to them.

[GoldHeart]

Exactly...he never expressed any of his suspicions of Paul over the Dungeon thing or at any other time for obvious reasons...rattled by him starting to betray him and then suddenly this massive turn on him the night after Paul had betrayed another Traitor...

...why is no one seeing this :shrug: now he is a hero...Jaz and Zach were the heroes but no one has listened to them.

After they banish Jaz tonight( His time is sadly up),the faithfuls don't deserve to win . If I was in the game ...I would immediately suspect Harry after he turned on Paul ,as it's the reoccurring theme for traitor to betray traitor.

They all think Harry is the hero which is laughable, they really are the blind leading the blind . They've ignored the fact Jaz,Zak etc had their suspicions about Paul in the first place. But suddenly it's Harry who's saved the day.

[Ammi]

…they were on a high last night with the elation of having found not only a Traitor but a very manipulative one who had fooled many of them…but when it all sinks in as the saying goes and they think about it, I’m hoping they’ll realise that Harry has only been at his most vocal and detailed when he’s also being going ‘Traitor versus Traitor’….exactly the same as a few had begun to suspect with Paul…so using that same theory, I’m hoping they’ll look at Harry…I’d love to see it all spice up with new Traitors and none of the originals as a different vibe completely…I know atm, many are hailing Harry as the hero but hmmmmmm….why did they see a different (…relentless…)…Harry that they hadn’t seen before who just happened to KNOW that Traitor….come on faithfuls, it doesn’t take too much figuring out….

[Mystic Mock]

I think that Goldheart will be happy with tonight's result.

[rusticgal]

Let’s see if Ross has the balls to expose Harry….:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Let’s see if Ross has the balls to expose Harry….:laugh:

He looked like he was ready to go for him.

I'm all for it.:devil:

[Vanessa]

Yes Ross. Hope he goes for it :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

I think that Goldheart will be happy with tonight's result.

lol

Yeah i wasn't a Charlotte fan and the whole "i've always voted out traitors" , erm didn't she vote Anthony out? :conf: :facepalm: ... delusional much, she was acting as if she was miss marple lmao, when she was getting it wrong all the time , like the rest of the faithfuls . She made herself look guilty with the overly defensive attitude aswell

[LaLaLand]

I think power's going to Harry's head and it'll eventually be his downfall (thanks to Ross).

The look Ross gave Harry in the Traitor's Turret when he said "we put her [Diane] in her place"... if looks could kill eh!? :omgno:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/20/01/80246887-12985599-One_penned_TheTraitors_is_the_greatest_television_ Ross_becoming_-a-62_1705715604879.jpg

Ross avenging his Mother's death like some Shakespearian/Arthurian legend will be incredible if it all goes accordingly. :joker:

[GoldHeart]

Yes Ross. Hope he goes for it :laugh:

Be interesting to see if he gets his revenge or bottles it lol .

The next few episodes and the final , is going to be on the seat eating popcorn stuff.

I think Harry is trying too hard now.... he's being too clever to the point where he's showing off and taunting the faithfuls, he's very close to Mollie who will never get murdered so surely that could also be his downfall ie making him the obvious traitor .... if anyone works it out, he confides in her.... which could easily come back to bite him on his bum. Especially now that Ross is thrown into the mix.

I just shake my head and roll my eyes when Andrew & Harry have a Traitors meeting , Harry is the driver and Andrew is the passenger with minimum input. Harry knows he can pull Andrew in any direction he wants, like a puppet master. And Andrew will just stand there still processing it and being agreeable by just going "yeah " over and over again.

Harry's plan about the shield is him trying to outsmart the game , but realistically suspicion would still be on him. But seen as we're dealing with a bunch of clueless faithfuls ... they might actually fall under Harry's spell.

Jaz is literally the only faithful who's logically working things out and even sticking his neck out .... he pointed out that traitors can have shields and he's given proof that Harry is one to watch , and it's funny how he suspected Andrew & Ross ... the very 2 new recruits. So Jaz should get a job at sleuthing. I don't know why they dismiss him when he talks alot of common sense . They're going to look very silly when Harry is revealed as a traitor :joker:.

[UserSince2005]

Did anyone else hear the editing on Jaz's confessional when he talks about Ross being a suspicion of his and then they edited on the end "as is harry" in a robot voice.
Ew I hate producer manipulation.
But I guess this means Jaz is coming for Harry next episode if that is the storyline they are so desperate to push.

[UserSince2005]

I do love the upcoming storyline of Ross avenging his Mum's death though. This will be so sweet to see.

[Ammi]

…I want a round table where Ross writes Harry’s name and stands up and says …’she was my mother…!!!!!!!!…’….and then one by one they all reveal his name also and stand up and say…’she was my mother too….’….:love:….the Queen must be avenged….


…I’ve been quite rooting for Harry from the beginning because he’s so slipped under the radar of suspicion with his tactic of thinking himself as a faithful…walk like a faithful, talk like a faithful etc…but last night wasn’t such a good look…I know that he’s not aware that Diane is Ross’s mom but he is totally aware of how close they were and he has felt that closeness with others in the group himself …so saying that ‘she had to be taken down…’ and laughing was just thoughtless….even if it wasn’t his mom, how did he think that would get Ross on board with the Traitors…

…anyway, the always recruiting of another male has become tedious also…I’m glad that Claudia actually commented on it and said…’oh, just like the old days…’…because other than Ash, that she chose…there hasn’t been a female chosen, has there…it’s like a constant ‘alpha male battle’ going on with beating of chests…

…I would love to see either Ross or Jaz win and take the prize fund…I really like Jaz a lot and a Ross win would be sweet revenge…:lovedup:…

[Ammi]

I do love the upcoming storyline of Ross avenging his Mum's death though. This will be so sweet to see.

….haha, snap…:love:…the stuff of a great storyline, a fitting revenge…I hope we see it…

[Vanessa]

Be interesting to see if he gets his revenge or bottles it lol .

The next few episodes and the final , is going to be on the seat eating popcorn stuff.

I think Harry is trying too hard now.... he's being too clever to the point where he's showing off and taunting the faithfuls, he's very close to Mollie who will never get murdered so surely that could also be his downfall ie making him the obvious traitor .... if anyone works it out, he confides in her.... which could easily come back to bite him on his bum. Especially now that Ross is thrown into the mix.

I just shake my head and roll my eyes when Andrew & Harry have a Traitors meeting , Harry is the driver and Andrew is the passenger with minimum input. Harry knows he can pull Andrew in any direction he wants, like a puppet master. And Andrew will just stand there still processing it and being agreeable by just going "yeah " over and over again.

Harry's plan about the shield is him trying to outsmart the game , but realistically suspicion would still be on him. But seen as we're dealing with a bunch of clueless faithfuls ... they might actually fall under Harry's spell.

Jaz is literally the only faithful who's logically working things out and even sticking his neck out .... he pointed out that traitors can have shields and he's given proof that Harry is one to watch , and it's funny how he suspected Andrew & Ross ... the very 2 new recruits. So Jaz should get a job at sleuthing. I don't know why they dismiss him when he talks alot of common sense . They're going to look very silly when Harry is revealed as a traitor :joker:.
The Traitors need to get rid of Jaz. He's on to Harry. If they don't Harry will be eliminated next.

[UserSince2005]

Harry is playing way too hard with the shield also.
So the first time someone doesn’t reveal they have a shield the traitors just happen to target that person. We don’t live in a perfect world Harry. As if he thinks people won’t question.
And if the faithful had any sense the traitors have clearly recruited, upping the supposed number of traitors the faithfuls need to eliminate before the final which complicates the traitors passing to the final.

[Ammi]

Harry is playing way too hard with the shield also.
So the first time someone doesn’t reveal they have a shield the traitors just happen to target that person. We don’t live in a perfect world Harry. As if he thinks people won’t question.
And if the faithful had any sense the traitors have clearly recruited, upping the supposed number of traitors the faithfuls need to eliminate before the final which complicates the traitors passing to the final.

…thing is, I’m not sure that people/the faithfuls will question it because there doesn’t seem to be very much critical/logical thinking and that’s been their issue as a group…but I really hope that it clicks with them that strangely/ironically and coincidentally Harry keeps it to himself that he got the shield in fear of his life because he just felt in his bones that the Traitors were going to come for him and he was going to let them so that they ‘wasted their kill in trying to kill him’ because he had a shield….wow, what happened…?…apparently the Traitors came for him and wasted their kill because Harry was saved by the shield…:laugh:…I mean, what are the odds ….

…also, when Charlotte was banished by the round table and she was a faithful, Harry muttered something along the lines of ‘lots of reasons’ why she was suspected or many reasons of something….something very vague for a faithful…it’s only when it’s a Traitor that he’s more vocal and detailed and specific about ‘many reasons’….then he makes sure that it’s very detailed in his quest to banish a fellow Traitor….

[GoldHeart]

Harry thinks he can banish 3 more faithfuls, and he wants it to be 3 Traitors Vs 3 faithfuls, but even that plan is a lie ...as he'll backstab Ross or Andrew or even both if he can have the win for himself.

If the faithfuls had any brains or common sense they'd see through Harry ( only Jaz is on the right tracks ), as they know how loud and bold he's been getting lately....so surely it's suspicious he hasn't been murdered like another Paul situation.

I guess we'll see what happens with Shield - gate , I think Harry will over play it and stumble at the final hurdle. And his friendship with Mollie will also hinder him ,as she's never been murdered and he's never pointed the finger at her .

I'm here for Ross taking revenge though, that should be fun to watch ...if he actually sticks to his word .

[Ammi]

…the only thing with Ross is that he’s already gained suspicion as being a possible recruit so if the faithfuls continue following that thought…he may be doomed before he can turn his sights to Harry…but even if he goes, he might be able to turn that suspicion toward Harry as revenge…

[GoldHeart]

…the only thing with Ross is that he’s already gained suspicion as being a possible recruit so if the faithfuls continue following that thought…he may be doomed before he can turn his sights to Harry…but even if he goes, he might be able to turn that suspicion toward Harry as revenge…

Yeah possibly,but the faithfuls seem to like Ross. But if I was him I'd definitely take Harry down with me .

I think the next banishment is going to be between Jaz & Jasmine as that's what the Traitors are pushing for, unless something else happens.

Mollie & Evie have coasted all the way through as set furniture :notimpressed:, they're only starting to get a bit vocal now as it's nearer the final and they're still gullible.

[Ammi]

…ahhhhhh, I’ve just read that next Friday is the final so only 3 more episodes to go…

[rusticgal]

The Traitors need to get rid of Jaz. He's on to Harry. If they don't Harry will be eliminated next.


Good....Harry is getting far too cocky. Jaz is playing an equally clever game and has more insight than all of them put together...

[rusticgal]

Harry thinks he can banish 3 more faithfuls, and he wants it to be 3 Traitors Vs 3 faithfuls, but even that plan is a lie ...as he'll backstab Ross or Andrew or even both if he can have the win for himself.

If the faithfuls had any brains or common sense they'd see through Harry ( only Jaz is on the right tracks ), as they know how loud and bold he's been getting lately....so surely it's suspicious he hasn't been murdered like another Paul situation.

I guess we'll see what happens with Shield - gate , I think Harry will over play it and stumble at the final hurdle. And his friendship with Mollie will also hinder him ,as she's never been murdered and he's never pointed the finger at her .

I'm here for Ross taking revenge though, that should be fun to watch ...if he actually sticks to his word .



Without a doubt Harry will turn on both Andrew and Ross...he wants the money for himself...but Andrew and Ross know that and will be sure to make him a target...
I really want this to backfire on Harry bigtime.

[GoldHeart]

Without a doubt Harry will turn on both Andrew and Ross...he wants the money for himself...but Andrew and Ross know that and will be sure to make him a target...
I really want this to backfire on Harry bigtime.

Same tbh ,but I have a bad feeling Jaz is getting banished next :bored: . Jaz is the only faithful I like, it's annoying nobody listens to him. I wanted him in the final.

Harry was playing Zak like a fiddle with his little remarks about " oh do you think it's 2 traitors going at it ". And how can they not see how full detailed his little speech about Paul ,Ash & the dungeon was lol, I would find that really bizarre hearing him reveal all that about Paul , it sounded fully like they were in cahoots. The faithfuls except for Jaz really are gullible to what's in front of them.

Traitors are catching Traitors , yet Harry slips under their radar. And they treat him like the traitor slayer or something hahaha. I really hope he drops himself in it at breakfast with his shield .

He's trying to be too clever and get ahead of himself with the whole " haha the Traitors tried and failed to murder me", hopefully they'll suspect that doesn't make sense. If Andrew & Ross had any sense they'd conspire to kick Harry out before he turns on them.

But I have a feeling Ross will try to go for whoever he sees as weakest out of Harry & Andrew.

[Ammi]

…if Ross had turned it down and said that he wouldn’t be recruited…?…at breakfast he would have been able to say that the Traitors had failed in trying to recruit him…so, Harry wouldn’t have been able to say that the Traitors had tried and failed to murder him because he had a shield, because it was an either or or recruit or kill, not both….that would have been an interesting scenario….

[GoldHeart]

…if Ross had turned it down and said that he wouldn’t be recruited…?…at breakfast he would have been able to say that the Traitors had failed in trying to recruit him…so, Harry wouldn’t have been able to say that the Traitors had tried and failed to murder him because he had a shield, because it was an either or or recruit or kill, not both….that would have been an interesting scenario….

I don't think Ross was thinking that far ahead , he was more worried about getting murdered which was also Andrew's thinking ...hence why they both accepted. They both think there's more chance at surviving if they just be traitors, I think one of them even said " if you can't beat them then join them ".

I still think this outcome will bite Harry in the bum. As keeping it having a shield secret which is suspicious in itself, and he will probably put Mollie in the limelight light as she's the only faithful he told about it .

And like I said he's never murdered her , and he's very close to her ...which screams traitor if the other players put 2 & 2 together.

[Ammi]

I don't think Ross was thinking that far ahead , he was more worried about getting murdered which was also Andrew's thinking ...hence why they both accepted. They both think there's more chance at surviving if they just be traitors, I think one of them even said " if you can't beat them then join them ".

I still think this outcome will bite Harry in the bum. As keeping it having a shield secret which is suspicious in itself, and he will probably put Mollie in the limelight light as she's the only faithful he told about it .

And like I said he's never murdered her , and he's very close to her ...which screams traitor if the other players put 2 & 2 together.

…yeah absolutely, it was all so much to take in being recruited and discovering the identity of the Traitors….that none of them would think of immediate strategies or gameplay etc …but how great would that have been to have completely thrown Harry’s intentions so he would have had to rethink very quickly…?….also, obviously one action and event leads to another etc….and Ross had to accept the recruitment in order to hear Harry say that Diane ‘had to be put in her place…’…that was the moment right there that we saw revenge in his eyes…:laugh:…

[Ammi]

…I’ll miss it after next week…

[GoldHeart]

…yeah absolutely, it was all so much to take in being recruited and discovering the identity of the Traitors….that none of them would think of immediate strategies or gameplay etc …but how great would that have been to have completely thrown Harry’s intentions so he would have had to rethink very quickly…?….also, obviously one action and event leads to another etc….and Ross had to accept the recruitment in order to hear Harry say that Diane ‘had to be put in her place…’…that was the moment right there that we saw revenge in his eyes…:laugh:…

:joker:
Yeah exactly, Ross has done well to keep that secret about his mum. They've obviously learnt from the dreadful mistake Tom & Alex made last year.

It would be like a soap opera if Ross reveals Harry's name on the blackboard, and then goes " And Diane was in fact my mother" lmao . But I don't think he'll reveal it until the game actually ends in the final as that would still jeapodise him.

I honestly think the only faithful who would think strategically to refuse the Traitors offer & turn up at breakfast, would be Jaz as he's always been 1 step ahead. And I think he'd be honest enough to tell everyone " by the way they tried recruiting me but I refused" etc lol .

Problem is you just never know if that will backfire or work in their favour. It could result in a banishment :shrug: . As murdering would just confirm it's the truth ,if that makes sense ...which the traitors would avoid doing.

But it would have been interesting to have seen Harry's reaction ,I think he would have tried planting seeds about Ross.

I still think Paul created a monster in Harry .

[rusticgal]

Same tbh ,but I have a bad feeling Jaz is getting banished next :bored: . Jaz is the only faithful I like, it's annoying nobody listens to him. I wanted him in the final.

Harry was playing Zak like a fiddle with his little remarks about " oh do you think it's 2 traitors going at it ". And how can they not see how full detailed his little speech about Paul ,Ash & the dungeon was lol, I would find that really bizarre hearing him reveal all that about Paul , it sounded fully like they were in cahoots. The faithfuls except for Jaz really are gullible to what's in front of them.

Traitors are catching Traitors , yet Harry slips under their radar. And they treat him like the traitor slayer or something hahaha. I really hope he drops himself in it at breakfast with his shield .

He's trying to be too clever and get ahead of himself with the whole " haha the Traitors tried and failed to murder me", hopefully they'll suspect that doesn't make sense. If Andrew & Ross had any sense they'd conspire to kick Harry out before he turns on them.

But I have a feeling Ross will try to go for whoever he sees as weakest out of Harry & Andrew.


Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

[rusticgal]

…I’ll miss it after next week…


Usually the U.S version follows shortly afterwards. There is also an Australian version...:laugh:

The American versions use celebrities.

[Ammi]

:joker:
Yeah exactly, Ross has done well to keep that secret about his mum. They've obviously learnt from the dreadful mistake Tom & Alex made last year.

It would be like a soap opera if Ross reveals Harry's name on the blackboard, and then goes " And Diane was in fact my mother" lmao . But I don't think he'll reveal it until the game actually ends in the final as that would still jeapodise him.

I honestly think the only faithful who would think strategically to refuse the Traitors offer & turn up at breakfast, would be Jaz as he's always been 1 step ahead. And I think he'd be honest enough to tell everyone " by the way they tried recruiting me but I refused" etc lol .

Problem is you just never know if that will backfire or work in their favour. It could result in a banishment :shrug: . As murdering would just confirm it's the truth ,if that makes sense ...which the traitors would avoid doing.

But it would have been interesting to have seen Harry's reaction ,I think he would have tried planting seeds about Ross.

I still think Paul created a monster in Harry .

…yeah, you might be right with that thought of Paul creating a monster in Harry…and once Harry had turned on his creator and banished him, he became soulless….:laugh:…it’s like a script plot, isn’t it…

…what I’d like to see is……Ross avenging Diane and having Harry banished and then Diane …(…fully clothed, though…)….dancing through the mansion to Sophie Ellis’ Murder on the Dancefloor….that would be perfection…

[Ammi]

Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

…no …it was Miles because he gave her the poison chalice…

[Ammi]

Usually the U.S version follows shortly afterwards. There is also an Australian version...:laugh:

The American one is a celebrity one this time...boo

…I did look up the US one because I think it’s already screening…the BBC have apparently bought it but there’s no release date for it to begin over here atm…I’m not sure with the Australian one but they’re all excellent, I like all of the presenters…

[rusticgal]

…I did look up the US one because I think it’s already screening…the BBC have apparently bought it but there’s no release date for it to begin over here atm…I’m not sure with the Australian one but they’re all excellent, I like all of the presenters…

The first series from last year is available to watch. This year the 2nd series aired on January 12th and shows on BBC iplayer on 13th....then one every Friday.
The Aussie 2nd series was aired in August but apparently takes 9 months before we can watch here...

Thats what I have read anyway....:wavey:

[Ammi]

The first series from last year is available to watch. This year the 2nd series aired on January 12th and shows on BBC iplayer on 13th....then one every Friday.
The Aussie 2nd series was aired in August but apparently takes 9 months before we can watch here...

Thats what I have read anyway....:wavey:

…yeah Rusti, I loved the first US season…season 2 did start mid January as you say, it’s streaming on a platform called Peacock, which apparently can be accessed in the UK via an Express VPN but I don’t have that…it will be aired on iplayer but there sadly isn’t a date for that, sob….on the positive, with the Australian season 2 also…we have those to look forward to later this year hopefully…

[Ammi]

…I’m just watching the Red Nose special on iplayer atm with Dawn French playing Claudia…:laugh:…

[GoldHeart]

Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

No it was after .
If you remember.....it was Miles ,Paul & Harry who plotted who they'd give the poisonous chalice to . Then after Miles' banishment they recruited Andrew as a traitor.

[GoldHeart]

…yeah, you might be right with that thought of Paul creating a monster in Harry…and once Harry had turned in his creator and banished him, he became soulless….:laugh:…it’s like a script plot, isn’t it…

…what I’d like to see is……Ross avenging Diane and having Harry banished and then Diane …(…fully clothed, though…)….dancing through the mansion to Sophie Ellis’ Murder in the Dancefloor….that would be perfection…

Did you see Sophie Ellis Bexter on the uncloaked podcast :laugh: .

And yeah it's definitely like a dramatic plot ,which I'm here for . I think these next few episodes will be gripping to watch lol .

[rusticgal]

No it was after .
If you remember.....it was Miles ,Paul & Harry who plotted who they'd give the poisonous chalice to . Then after Miles' banishment they recruited Andrew as a traitor.


Oh yes….so Ross will be targeting Harry before Andrew then….hopefully.

[GoldHeart]

Oh yes….so Ross will be targeting Harry before Andrew then….hopefully.

Yep :fc:

Especially after Harry got smug and told Ross " she had to go " . He's so dumb :joker: , I know he doesn't realise she was Ross' mum ...but nobody likes a jumped up cocky person.

[Cherie]

I wouldn't mind Andrew taking the lot, but I think they have made a mistake bringing Ross on board. he could win this now especially as there is already eyes on Harry

[Strictly Jake]

I want any of the three traitors left to win now. Any one of them deserve it

[Mystic Mock]

Yep :fc:

Especially after Harry got smug and told Ross " she had to go " . He's so dumb :joker: , I know he doesn't realise she was Ross' mum ...but nobody likes a jumped up cocky person.

I mean Ross even asked "why did you murder Diane?" And Harry didn't cotton on that Ross was clearly bothered about her elimination.:joker:

Harry unintentionally delivered a great moment though.

[Ammi]

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…

[UserSince2005]

Ready to see Harry comeuppance tonight. Despite being on the other side of the world. International consensus that he has to go.

[Mystic Mock]

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…

I can't wait either.:dance:

[rusticgal]

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…


Me too...its been a long week :laugh:

[rusticgal]

Ready to see Harry comeuppance tonight. Despite being on the other side of the world. International consensus that he has to go.

Oh I hope so....

[GoldHeart]

Oh I hope so....

Watch them banish Jaz instead tonight :bored: .

[rusticgal]

Jaz will be murdered tonight….

However Harry’s possible big mistake of using his shield and the traitors came for him…why would they not target him tonight???

[Mystic Mock]

Ross had a unique strategy as a Traitor.:joker:

Sad to see him go though.

If people put two and two together the Faithfuls can actually figure out that there's more than one Traitor left.

1. When the Dungeon twist happened, the only Faithful that the Traitors sent down there was Meg? If they think it through they will realise that Andrew is a recruited Traitor and that they need to be on the hunt for at least one more Traitor.

2. Why would Ross and Andrew be discussing Harry? They now know that Ross is a Traitor, so they have got to start studying his behaviour over his last couple of days in the game.

3. If people engage their minds, they'll see how convenient it was for Harry to have a shield on the night the Traitors "tried to murder him" imo it's very obviously BS, I feel like I would see through that.

4. Whilst I admittedly would be wrong to think like this, the Faithfuls should be finding Mollie's staunch defense of Harry extremely suspicious, she even told Andrew off for merely suggesting Harry's name, and if I was on the Show that would make me wonder why she is getting so defensive of Harry? I would either be thinking that they're both Traitors or that they know each other on the outside world, because Mollie's behaviour in particular around Harry would weird me out.

And as a Zack fan, even I've got to say that Harry needs to get him murdered, otherwise Zack will find both Harry and Andrew, as after all he is the Traitor Hunter.:joker:

[Ammi]

…whoever the Traitors have killed, it’ll be interesting to see what Harry says in terms of why it wasn’t him and he’s still alive as he didn’t have the shield this time…the Traitors attempted to kill him but they were foiled because he secretly had the shield…then Claudia tells them that no one won a shield and they don’t complete their killing…?…there is just no thought at all…:laugh:…

…it didn’t occur to anyone either and so close to the end etc…that Ross or anyone might have been a new recruit and that no one tried to kill Harry the day before…the obvious would be that someone was recruited, rather than a killing …and yet that isn’t being explored at all…I think it was Zak who said…’I knew all along…’…well no you didn’t because Ross was only a Traitor for a day so you were wrong all along…

[GoldHeart]

I haven't watched Wednesday's show yet , I googled the spoiler anyway. FFS at Ross getting banished :facepalm: .

How is Harry getting away with this ?? . The faithfuls really are dense and gullible.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think the whole Molly friendship should raise suspicion, if I was in there...I would think Harry & Molly were either
A .old school friends or
B. Boyfriend and Girlfriend.

How can she possibly vouch for him :rolleyes: ,when she's only known him for a few weeks. Yes friendships & bonds firm ,but you still can't 100% trust anyone. And how has nobody twigged that Molly will never get murdered ,as Harry is close to her ie making him a traitor and in control on the game

You telling me Harry actually pulled off the breakfast shield plan?? , that's insane. He's such a cocky jumped up little squirt...and he's going to win.

Part of me actually wants him to win , just to see the baffled shocked looks on the remaining faithfuls. They've played the game so badly yikes.

[Mystic Mock]

…whoever the Traitors have killed, it’ll be interesting to see what Harry says in terms of why it wasn’t him and he’s still alive as he didn’t have the shield this time…the Traitors attempted to kill him but they were foiled because he secretly had the shield…then Claudia tells them that no one won a shield and they don’t complete their killing…?…there is just no thought at all…:laugh:…

…it didn’t occur to anyone either and so close to the end etc…that Ross or anyone might have been a new recruit and that no one tried to kill Harry the day before…the obvious would be that someone was recruited, rather than a killing …and yet that isn’t being explored at all…I think it was Zak who said…’I knew all along…’…well no you didn’t because Ross was only a Traitor for a day so you were wrong all along…

Tbf to Zack, I do think that Ross was always a sound guess due to some of his strategy in the game.

[Mystic Mock]

I haven't watched Wednesday's show yet , I googled the spoiler anyway. FFS at Ross getting banished :facepalm: .

How is Harry getting away with this ?? . The faithfuls really are dense and gullible.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think the whole Molly friendship should raise suspicion, if I was in there...I would think Harry & Molly were either
A .old school friends or
B. Boyfriend and Girlfriend.

How can she possibly vouch for him :rolleyes: ,when she's only known him for a few weeks. Yes friendships & bonds firm ,but you still can't 100% trust anyone. And how has nobody twigged that Molly will never get murdered ,as Harry is close to her ie making him a traitor and in control on the game

You telling me Harry actually pulled off the breakfast shield plan?? , that's insane. He's such a cocky jumped up little squirt...and he's going to win.

Part of me actually wants him to win , just to see the baffled shocked looks on the remaining faithfuls. They've played the game so badly yikes.

Well if I was in there I would definitely try to at least test the theory on Harry & Mollie, because like you've said it would be weird that an obvious pair in the game hasn't been murdered up to this point.

[rusticgal]

Australian version Series 2 will be streaming after the UK version finishes...:cheer2:

[rusticgal]

We need Zach to question why Harry wasnt murdered last night when he claims they had tried to murder him but he had the Shield...

[UserSince2005]

Ross was such a let down.
The producers surely told him not to out their golden boy Harry.
All he had to do was say that he was recruited last night in his exit speech and then we could have seen the faithfuls work out the truth. Although with this group I still have doubt they could be smart enough.
But the producers must have banned him from saying that he was a late recruit

[UserSince2005]

Why Ross went for Andrew and not Harry is beyond me. The producers are desperate to push Harry down are throats like they did Wilf last year.

[UserSince2005]

Harry is the luckiest person ever

Also Zach is just the worst. He thinks he’s so smart yet made the most stupidest mistake with the money bag. What a fool.

[UserSince2005]

Also Jaz was just the cutest how he ran through the forest.
The only one who deserves to win.
Sad to say that if Jaz doesn’t win then Harry is second most deserving.

[Cherie]

Harry has been a great traitor, that said I would like Andrew to win it, dont really want the faithfuls to win Molly and Evie are too trusting

[GoldHeart]

Also Jaz was just the cutest how he ran through the forest.
The only one who deserves to win.
Sad to say that if Jaz doesn’t win then Harry is second most deserving.

I need to catch up on the episode . But if Jaz is murdered then I swear :facepalm::bored: argh. Once Jaz goes then I will be wanting the Traitors to win , as the faithfuls are the worst this year . it's embarrassing how many clues and obvious hints they've missed.

It's annoying when they get a traitor now ,as it's always a traitor that I don't want them to get . And they get so sure of themselves , despite being useless at strategy and game playing.

[UserSince2005]

Miles said he was a late recruit in his exit speech. Why was Ross banned from doing so too!!!!!! BBC I want answers. Wouldn’t be surprised if Harry is connected to someone at the BBC and they are just giving away licence fee payers money to their own.

[Vanessa]

Harry to win for me. He's been brilliant.

[rusticgal]

Harry has been a great traitor, that said I would like Andrew to win it, dont really want the faithfuls to win Molly and Evie are too trusting


Yes….he has hated being a Traitor. You can see the role just doesn’t sit well with him….I hope he betrays Harry and wins all the money.

But I have liked Jas….

[Vanessa]

Yes….he has hated being a Traitor. You can see the role just doesn’t sit well with him….I hope he betrays Harry and wins all the money.

But I have liked Jas….

Would be happy with Andrew winning.

[GoldHeart]

Miles said he was a late recruit in his exit speech. Why was Ross banned from doing so too!!!!!! BBC I want answers. Wouldn’t be surprised if Harry is connected to someone at the BBC and they are just giving away licence fee payers money to their own.

Nepotism or he's sleeping with someone probably.

Surely Ross could say anything he wanted, Kieran pretty much pointed the finger right back at Wilf last year which was iconic af :laugh:.

If producers gagged me and if I was in Ross' position, the moment I stood up to declare I'm a ' traitor ' , I would
eye ball Harry like crazy which would be a major giveaway. Harry is so slippery,and people are basically handling him like butter fingers when they leave , like they have weird loyalty to him or like they don't want to rock the boat :rolleyes: .

I think they edited Ash's speech when she left , I heard she said something cryptic ... along the lines of " you're not looking in the right places " or something. I don't remember hearing her say that. Producers are weird and sneaky.

[LaLaLand]

I NEED Jaz to fully come for Harry with all of his evidence and out him as a Traitor tomorrow.

[rusticgal]

Miles said he was a late recruit in his exit speech. Why was Ross banned from doing so too!!!!!! BBC I want answers. Wouldn’t be surprised if Harry is connected to someone at the BBC and they are just giving away licence fee payers money to their own.



That’s what I was hoping Ross would say…instead he told them Diane was his mother…:fist:but he was clearly told he could not reveal that…
I’m hoping jas will call out Harry at the final bonfire….leaving Andrew to take it all.
Those two silly women besotted with Harry don’t deserve a penny..just gutted Jas might leave with nothing…

[rusticgal]

I NEED Jaz to fully come for Harry with all of his evidence and out him as a Traitor tomorrow.


I think he will….

[Mystic Mock]

I NEED Jaz to fully come for Harry with all of his evidence and out him as a Traitor tomorrow.

Sadly Jaz and Andrew are playing scared.

That's why Harry did the right thing murdering Zack because he was the only left out of the Faithfuls with gumption.

[GoldHeart]

I NEED Jaz to fully come for Harry with all of his evidence and out him as a Traitor tomorrow.

wow what a crazy few episodes, i've just caught up with wednesday & Thursday. Ross basically became a traitor to then get thrown under the bus which he knew would happen :rolleyes:. He played it all wrong when he tried playing Andrew & Harry off against eachother, i can see what he was trying to do . But he knows he can't trust either of them . So that plan was always going to fail. And Andrew wasn't going to help him out .

Harry is so cocky and sure of himself, and he was mocking Andrew & Ross like his pets with the whole "my baby traitors", he knew he had full control of every or most narratives in the game. Andrew is basically melting under pressure ... but he will stick with Harry like glue now for the final.

Ironically Ross was alot better manipulating things in his favour with his mum Diane, before he was recruited. Once he became a traitor it all went downhill for him.

Even in the roundtable i don't think he knew who to vote for which again just confused the situation further, he argued with Zak and called out Andrew so he voted for Andrew because Andrew lied, yet he said he was going to go for Harry for his mum's revenge but he never stuck to his word.

It's literally the final , so in theory you would think Jaz would throw everything on it and go for Harry. But it's obvious he's too scared and worried that it will put him in the firing line, and with it being soo close now to the finish line, Jaz will just do the herd mentality like what he did when he voted Ross &Jasmine.

Jaz says he's going to do all he can to find a traitor/s , i think he will choose between Evie or Andrew. Jaz knows he has to be careful so i think he's thinking about saving his skin essentially... so it's tactical and herd mentality like i said .

I actually want Harry to win now , just so i can see Mollie's face , she's so ditzy and gullible how she trusts him 100%.

Even the whole shield plan had holes in it , yet they all fell hook line and sinker for it . Even Jasmine touched on the point that a traitor can still get a shield , so you would think all the faithfuls brains would get a light bulb moment and they'd realise Harry could be bluffing like one hell of a poker move.

Zak was full of it aswell , he actually thinks Ross was a traitor from the Paul days :joker: :facepalm: . None of them seem to realise a few more recruitments have happened since then. I knew Zak's murder would also throw more suspicion on Jasmine, like didn't they think it would be pretty dumb for Jasmine to murder Zak if she was really a traitor... especially when Zak kept coming for her so persistently , isn't it a bit obvious to murder the person you're arguing with, and she herself said it was a clear set up ... which the faithfuls ignored yet again lol . She smiled because she knew they would all look very silly getting rid of her lol .

Ross also dropped Jasmine well and truly in it and put the heat onto her, and everyone talked about their ' close friendship', but i find it really bizarre that non of them find it a little bit odd or suspicious how close Mollie & Harry are , especially after Ross revealing he was Diane's son.

If i was in the game i would get paranoid and my eyes would be on Mollie & Harry having some connection outside the castle and would make be less trusting of them both . They always back eachother and she's never been murdered like HELLO how is nobody picking up on that ???! i know she's a faithful, but logically you would think it would lead back to Harry , Mollie herself is away with the fairies and completely clueless her exacty words were "i don't know why i'm still here", not realising her best mate in the game is keeping her in so he can continue to hoodwink her and influence her thoughts and voting.

These faithfuls are the worst this year, very tone deaf and short sighted.

Mollie defends Harry so much , she must fancy him . it's weird how much she thinks she can trust him, so logically you would think people would be voting for them .... if they're going down the whole 'close friendship' route like what they did with Jasmine & Ross .

But it will be hilarious to see her face if/when he actually wins the money and she will have egg on her face along with the other remaining faithfuls and it will be very entertaining to see :laugh:.

Harry will Throw Andrew under the bus last minute, i guarantee it , all this rubbish about "i don't want to backstab you" is false . We all know he wants the 100k for himself ... and he doesn't want to split it .

Andrew thinks his relationship with Harry is like father & son, but i see more like puppet master and puppet. Andrew follows Harry and looks to him for reassurance and instructions on what to do next . Harry has got himself in a very very strong position and he knows this , he's basically the cat that got the cream.

And i honestly think Harry has/will WIN and has this in the bag . I can't see this going any other way unless he cracks which is very unlikely. And he has his bestie Mollie who will always hang on his every word and fight his corner like she's his loyal ride or die . And anyone who dares mentions Harry she'll bite back like a chihuahua lol . This really will be too delicious when it's all revealed how wrong she was .

Final banishments will be between Evie & Andrew , and Jaz's name might get mentioned aswell briefly.

Faithfuls go down rabbit holes and they go so far off the scent . I think Harry could carve traitor in the roundtable and they'd all still be baffled where to turn next lmao .

[Mystic Mock]

The Faithfuls should've flushed Mollie out of the game, she's basically an unofficial Traitor going into the final.

It's virtually impossible for Jaz & Evie to win, there is one avenue that they can take, but I ultimately don't see them taking it.

[GoldHeart]

The Faithfuls should've flushed Mollie out of the game, she's basically an unofficial Traitor going into the final.

It's virtually impossible for Jaz & Evie to win, there is one avenue that they can take, but I ultimately don't see them taking it.

Yeah completely that .... but it's fine anyway as Mollie will just look silly in the final when it all comes out in the wash LOL and it will be delicious to see.

If i was a faithful and especially Molly, i would feel like a total Idiot. Molly has been making goo goo eyes at Harry from the beginning, like she has a big crush on him. Like i said he could tell her face to face that he's a traitor and she would still swear blind he's faithful , and she'd do mental gymnastics to prove he's innocent and that it must be some type of mistake lol :rolleyes: .

Harry is seen as the sweet honest baby face they want to protect, he has such a hold over them. Only Jaz suspects him ... and Jaz knows he can't go down that path or rather if he did he'd have to tread very carefully , as it puts a massive target on his own back.

I honestly think Harry has won the whole thing . And i came across this article which already makes him sound like he's rolling in it as he has celebrity girlfriend apparently , so i guess we take that with a pinch of salt. But i can't see anything blocking Harry's way, are Jaz & Andrew really brave enough to go after Harry at the final stage ??? .... without it backfiring on themselves.

Harry is laughing to the bank , and i still think he will win it all by himself and ditch Andrew last minute. Harry wants that 100k for his greedy self.

But like i said it will be a picture to see the looks on the faithfuls faces, when they realise how spectacularly wrong they got it :joker: .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/usshowbiz/article-13005905/Private-jets-TV-presenter-girlfriend-Traitors-favourite-Harry.html

[Mystic Mock]

If Harry has a girlfriend that works at the BBC company, then I could see the Show giving him an extra help in hand to win.

I mean there has been a fair amount of help from production towards Harry this season, and it now makes sense as to why.

[Ammi]

….ahhhhh, there you are, GH…:love:…I’ve missed your episode summaries…I thought maybe you had gone up there to the Traitor mansion to give all of those faithfuls a good shake…:laugh:…


…with regards to Ross when he was recruited…?..yeah, he could have really mixed it all up and maybe created that faithful turn needed because his headset wasn’t yet of a Traitor, was it…I think for me, the problem with so may of the faithfuls this season I’d that they’ve ‘reasoned’ with their hearts and not with their heads and power of working things through with logic…and Ross at the round table that last time just displayed that perfectly…Harry was his target and if he had succeeded in banishing Harry or at least planting those seeds that were needed and have others doubting Harry…then he could then turn to Andrew ….but Andrew’s dishonesty really got into his blood…I mean, what does he think bring a Traitor is…?…it’s a dishonest occupation is the whole thing…but that seemed to be filling him more than any revenge for Diane and the dismissive way Harry had shrugged off Diane’s killing…I feel that the downfall of the faithfuls this season has been that they’ve voted with their hearts and friendships …

…I don’t think there is any way that Harry isn’t going to take the prize as a Traitor this season…I think it’s just whether he tries to take it alone and casts doubt and suspicion over Andrew or whether they share it…Jaz is the only one who has ever had any doubts with Harry but I don’t think those doubts will be enough for Harry not to walk away as the winner or one of them…

[UserSince2005]

Harry not taking the £7k is so stupid. Like Id understand if there was an actually effect on the prize fund, like £14k came off or something but how does not taking it prove he’s not a traitor? No one would have held it against him either. The boy is just stupid, but the people around him make him look like a genius lol

[UserSince2005]

That’s what I was hoping Ross would say…instead he told them Diane was his mother…:fist:but he was clearly told he could not reveal that…
I’m hoping jas will call out Harry at the final bonfire….leaving Andrew to take it all.
Those two silly women besotted with Harry don’t deserve a penny..just gutted Jas might leave with nothing…

Definitely told he could not gun for Harry. This show is such a set up.

[UserSince2005]

So happy they didn’t get the chance to murder Jaz.
Come on faithfuls you have to figure out there was not a murder because there is two traitors left and so the numbers wouldn’t work if there was another murder!!!
I really can’t see Jaz letting the game end with Harry still in.
The only way Harry can win now is if he targets Jaz at the final banishment and gets him out. And saves Andrew to be eliminated at the fire pit.
Luckily I think he is too stupid and he will go for Andrew at the banishment thinking that’s the smart game move, and then Jaz will come through at the fire pit and not let the game end.

[UserSince2005]

If Harry realises that Jaz needs to go then I will hold my hands up and say he’s an amazing traitor. Otherwise if he somehow still wins then I’m calling a fix.

[UserSince2005]

If Harry realises that Jaz needs to go then I will hold my hands up and say he’s an amazing traitor. Otherwise if he somehow still wins then I’m calling a fix.

[rusticgal]

If Harry has a girlfriend that works at the BBC company, then I could see the Show giving him an extra help in hand to win.

I mean there has been a fair amount of help from production towards Harry this season, and it now makes sense as to why.


yeah...like being the last to pick the sword last night.

[rusticgal]

Harry will want Andrew banished surely....and he will try to convince the others all the Traitors are gone...and then Jaz can call out Harry at the firepit.

[jones89]

I kinda want Harry to win, be a change from last year having a traitor win and he’s played a good game.. but then i want Mollie to win also, she’s so lovely and sweet, i cry

[Livia]

I didn't watch the first series but I've been hooked on this one and I'm excited for the final. I'd like to see Andrew win. Harry's good, but a bit too cocky, the girls are a pair of sheep. Jaz is okay... but Andrew ftw for me.

Hope Claudia continues with this, she's excellent.

[rusticgal]

I didn't watch the first series but I've been hooked on this one and I'm excited for the final. I'd like to see Andrew win. Harry's good, but a bit too cocky, the girls are a pair of sheep. Jaz is okay... but Andrew ftw for me.

Hope Claudia continues with this, she's excellent.


Totally agree..Would be more than happy to see Andrew win.

[Vanessa]

I think Harry will win. Unless Andrew exposes him.

[rusticgal]

I think Harry will win. Unless Andrew exposes him.


Either Jas or Andrew will expose him...I hope. Harry has played a good game but I really don't want him to win.

[Vanessa]

Either Jas or Andrew will expose him...I hope. Harry has played a good game but I really don't want him to win.

I love Harry. He's been so brilliant so far.

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah Andrew is my winner

[Cherie]

a Harry win is too predictable...Andrew all the way

Harry will do well after this anyway he will make a ton of dosh, Andrew will go back to his normal life

[GoldHeart]

If Harry has a girlfriend that works at the BBC company, then I could see the Show giving him an extra help in hand to win.

I mean there has been a fair amount of help from production towards Harry this season, and it now makes sense as to why.

I didn't want to think it but even when Ross got banished, all he did was reveal he's Diane's son. His revenge plan never happened. And even when he told everyone he's " a traitor", why didn't he do something to incriminate Harry . I know he can't out out Harry at that point, but he could have done something surely :shrug:, so that was disappointing and fell flat .

Yeah it just all seems a bit sus and convenient:suspect:, I hate when shows are rigged...I kept hoping I was wrong. But isn't is interesting out of 8 players and Harry of all people get's the sword :bored:. I'm just glad the only power he had was to take 7 grand and not instantly banish someone there and then , as twists and turns are plenty in this game.

Everyone thinks Harry put money back into the pot ,as he's a 'team player ', and how it would be wrong to take the money...wow he's well and truly pulled the wool over their eyes. The more I think about that moment the more I think ...if you know you're going to win or if you think you're going to lose surely that would impact your decision to take the 7 grand .


If it was me I would like to be a team player,but if I also thought I was going to get banished ,then I'd probably take the 7k as it's not like I'm taking 100k . And atleast if I lose I could say well I won 7k which isn't bad :laugh:.

Harry is so sure of himself , he knows or thinks he will win the entire prize fund . Jaz definitely was on to him when he did his little speech about them all winning as faithfuls. But everyone else is oblivious as usual.




….ahhhhh, there you are, GH…:love:…I’ve missed your episode summaries…I thought maybe you had gone up there to the Traitor mansion to give all of those faithfuls a good shake…:laugh:…


…with regards to Ross when he was recruited…?..yeah, he could have really mixed it all up and maybe created that faithful turn needed because his headset wasn’t yet of a Traitor, was it…I think for me, the problem with so may of the faithfuls this season I’d that they’ve ‘reasoned’ with their hearts and not with their heads and power of working things through with logic…and Ross at the round table that last time just displayed that perfectly…Harry was his target and if he had succeeded in banishing Harry or at least planting those seeds that were needed and have others doubting Harry…then he could then turn to Andrew ….but Andrew’s dishonesty really got into his blood…I mean, what does he think bring a Traitor is…?…it’s a dishonest occupation is the whole thing…but that seemed to be filling him more than any revenge for Diane and the dismissive way Harry had shrugged off Diane’s killing…I feel that the downfall of the faithfuls this season has been that they’ve voted with their hearts and friendships …

…I don’t think there is any way that Harry isn’t going to take the prize as a Traitor this season…I think it’s just whether he tries to take it alone and casts doubt and suspicion over Andrew or whether they share it…Jaz is the only one who has ever had any doubts with Harry but I don’t think those doubts will be enough for Harry not to walk away as the winner or one of them…

:joker:
I was behind Wednesday and Thursday so I had to watch both last night . Wow can't believe it's the final tonight.

And I agree about the faithfuls strategy or rather lack of ... especially Mollie who will really face palm when it's all over .

She's like Hannah with Wilf last year, the whole point of the Traitors is to suspect everyone and open your eyes. But they seem to think these people are their BFFS, like I said Harry not murdering Mollie is so sus .And nobody clocked onto that, instead they went on a wild goose chase theory about Harry's shield :facepalm:, but they didn't cover all bases .And Jasmine paid the price. Which makes me think Evie is definitely next .

Harry knew he could manipulate Mollie , and she hasn't twigged and never will until she watches it all back. I think even when it's revealed that Harry is a traitor at the fire pit , Mollie will probably still refuse to believe it lmao .

I'm not even a Harry fan ,and now hearing about him possibly being in the BBC's pocket has annoyed me . But I only wanted him to win to see the reaction of the faithfuls ,and so Jaz can go " I told you so " .

I don't think Jaz will push too hard to get rid of Harry ,I honestly think it's too late now anyway .

[UserSince2005]

Miles said he was a late recruit in his exit speech. Why was Ross banned from doing so too!!!!!! BBC I want answers. Wouldn’t be surprised if Harry is connected to someone at the BBC and they are just giving away licence fee payers money to their own.

What the actual **** his girlfriend works for the BBC. I cannot believe it. I wrote the above as a completely out there statement and turns out it’s true!!!

[GoldHeart]

What the actual **** his girlfriend works for the BBC. I cannot believe it. I wrote the above as a completely out there statement and turns out it’s true!!!

Did you see the link I posted , looks like Harry is producers favourite.

[Vanessa]

Did you see the link I posted , looks like Harry is producers favourite.

But he might not win. Andrew could win it as well.

[Cherie]

I didn't want to think it but even when Ross got banished, all he did was reveal he's Diane's son. His revenge plan never happened. And even when he told everyone he's " a traitor", why didn't he do something to incriminate Harry . I know he can't out out Harry at that point, but he could have done something surely :shrug:, so that was disappointing and fell flat .

Yeah it just all seems a bit sus and convenient:suspect:, I hate when shows are rigged...I kept hoping I was wrong. But isn't is interesting out of 8 players and Harry of all people get's the sword :bored:. I'm just glad the only power he had was to take 7 grand and not instantly banish someone there and then , as twists and turns are plenty in this game.

Everyone thinks Harry put money back into the pot ,as he's a 'team player ', and how it would be wrong to take the money...wow he's well and truly pulled the wool over their eyes. The more I think about that moment the more I think ...if you know you're going to win or if you think you're going to lose surely that would impact your decision to take the 7 grand .


If it was me I would like to be a team player,but if I also thought I was going to get banished ,then I'd probably take the 7k as it's not like I'm taking 100k . And atleast if I lose I could say well I won 7k which isn't bad :laugh:.

Harry is so sure of himself , he knows or thinks he will win the entire prize fund . Jaz definitely was on to him when he did his little speech about them all winning as faithfuls. But everyone else is oblivious as usual.






:joker:
I was behind Wednesday and Thursday so I had to watch both last night . Wow can't believe it's the final tonight.

And I agree about the faithfuls strategy or rather lack of ... especially Mollie who will really face palm when it's all over .

She's like Hannah with Wilf last year, the whole point of the Traitors is to suspect everyone and open your eyes. But they seem to think these people are their BFFS, like I said Harry not murdering Mollie is so sus .And nobody clocked onto that, instead they went on a wild goose chase theory about Harry's shield :facepalm:, but they didn't cover all bases .And Jasmine paid the price. Which makes me think Evie is definitely next .

Harry knew he could manipulate Mollie , and she hasn't twigged and never will until she watches it all back. I think even when it's revealed that Harry is a traitor at the fire pit , Mollie will probably still refuse to believe it lmao .

I'm not even a Harry fan ,and now hearing about him possibly being in the BBC's pocket has annoyed me . But I only wanted him to win to see the reaction of the faithfuls ,and so Jaz can go " I told you so " .

I don't think Jaz will push too hard to get rid of Harry ,I honestly think it's too late now anyway .

With regard to Ross he didnt expect to be out the day after he was recruited so he didn't really have time to plan against Harry also he couldn't incriminate him as they take the traitors oath not to reveal the identity of the others

[Cherie]

If Andrew is clever he will use the knowing about the shield to save himself, if he tells Harry if he is revealed as a traitor the faithfuls will know Harry wasnt targeted at all...as Andrew knew about the shield and they should suss that someone was recruited

My son says Molly has set women back 50 years with her fate in Harry :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

With regard to Ross he didnt expect to be out the day after he was recruited so he didn't really have time to plan against Harry also he couldn't incriminate him as they take the traitors oath not to reveal the identity of the others

Do you watch uncloacked podcast, Ross was being interviewed ...and he himself said he knew it was basically curtains for him , especially when Zack came at him at the breakfast table,and the whole shield thing.

His strategy of trying to turn Andrew & Harry against eachother was weak . And he should have just stuck to the original plan of taking Harry down.

They take the oath ,but plenty of Traitors still throw eachother under the bus ...which is what Ross tried doing with Andrew which was a waste of time.

So my point is Ross could have still tried throwing suspicion Harry's way at the roundtable,he already mentioned his name outside to other players. There's plenty of ways he could draw attention to Harry without revealing the identity etc :shrug: .

Last year Kieran gave big hints not to trust Wilf....he even kept eye balling Wilf as a warning,and he took Wilf down
with him lol. which is exactly what Ross could have done with Harry ...but he chickened out .

I think Ross was still finding his feet ,as granted it was barely 1 day of him being a traitor. So his mind was probably still scrambled.

[GoldHeart]

Before the firepit , at the final round table I think it will backfire if Jaz tries going for Harry , unless he manages to really get the other faithfuls on his side which I have my doubts.

Mollie will probably cry and start throwing the blame back onto Jaz like he offended her family or something,for going for her precious Harry . And Evie will probably turn on Jaz aswell. Both those 2 are like sheep .

I know I keep saying this , but how has Mollie defending Harry to the highest gone under the radar. I know they're similar age group. But if I was in the game... I'd think she was related to him or his old school pal , weird how their friendship is never questioned.

Jaz already tried confiding in Zack & Evie about his suspicions with the whole Paul & Harry dynamic,and they both look puzzled at him and laughed it off. Nobody listens to poor Jaz . So he might aswell just vote tactically at the round table unless of course Andrew tag teams in helping get rid of Harry ,but I just don't know with Andrew....I think he's too worried for his own skin.

The best outcome would be Andrew winning on his own instead of Harry ,but either way I'm looking forward to their faces when it's revealed that jumped up little squirt Harry has pulled the wool over their eyes .

[Swan]

Binged watched this. Glad Harry won tbh, he played it so well. However, i don't buy that this show is fully genuine at all.

[Ammi]

…poor lovely Mollie…:sad:…but sadly, she was ruled by her friendship in a game that was all about deception….they were a nice cast …:love:…but their mistakes were just to many to recover from and get on track because there was very little reasoning this season…well done, Harry…he absorbed it all from the beginning and played it at the right time…he played like a faithful, as he said and his tactic made him a winner…:love:…

[rusticgal]

Gutted….he played a good game but when you have Mollies in this world who get suckered in with a good looking guy it can help your game immensely. She deserved to lose.

[Cherie]

anti climax ending....great show needed to end on a twist...

[Swan]

anti climax ending....great show needed to end on a twist...

They seemed to drag out the last part, but after Harry was crowned winner it ended very abruptly. Not sure why they didn't give the final 90 mins?!

[GoldHeart]

Gutted….he played a good game but when you have Mollies in this world who get suckered in with a good looking guy it can help your game immensely. She deserved to lose.

I laughed my head off as it was so predictable , tiring and funny all at the same time :rolleyes: :joker: , I knew Mollie would fck it all up and lose, i knew she'd become an emotional wreck . Jaz tried to help her and he brought up evidence and facts and she refused to listen... he even complimented her in good nature by saying he trusted her by his side , but she was a gullible fool who had a big crush on Harry and fell for his silly puppy dog eyes.

Only person i feel sorry for is Jaz, he played a really good game. Really clever and decent guy who i wish all the best for, and imo he deserved to win the most . Just think both him and Mollie could have shared the money and been celebrating with a glass of bubbly but she ruined it by shaking like a leaf and acting like a blubbering mess, i wonder why Claudia let her change her mind... i thought once the votes were 'locked in' that that was that. I guess Claudia wanted them all to be 100% sure .

Mollie must feel really dumb and slow after writing Harry down and then changing it, i knew she'd mess it all up. She'd lay down her life for jumped up squirt Harry.. and he sold her down the river and was using her the whole time, maybe when she watches it back she'll click and put 2 & 2 together as to why she was never murdered :facepalm: LOL .

But it was an entertaining final just as i suspected , all the way through Mollie is saying she'll never talk to Harry if he's a traitor etc etc . She treated Harry like he was her soul mate . It's weird she put that much faith and trust in a complete stranger she's only known a few weeks. And even when she had a smidge of doubt ... she got scared and changed her mind and let herself get manipulated once again. The players have really made it easy for Harry this year , and Mollie handed him the win in the palm of his hands.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf I think that Harry deserved to win based off of the finale.

Evie tbf got harmed by the Shield twist, so there wasn't really much that she could do.

I like Jaz, but he ultimately was a coward at the game, and left it too late to start playing.

Andrew similarly was also a bit too cowardly imo, and left it too long to start attempting to flip the numbers on Harry.

And Mollie is the player that I feel was the most annoying contestant by the end, she sees how the final is playing out, yet she still voted Jaz out which makes no logical sense considering he was the only one that wanted to carry on banishing at that point.

Plus I didn't like her attitude towards Harry in the episode, he was assigned a role to be one of the Traitors, she was being really unfair to him imo.

Overall a very good Season, it definitely had some questionable production interference, but overall I had a lot of fun watching it.

[Mystic Mock]

yeah...like being the last to pick the sword last night.

Exactly.

[jet]

Tbf I think that Harry deserved to win based off of the finale.

Evie tbf got harmed by the Shield twist, so there wasn't really much that she could do.

I like Jaz, but he ultimately was a coward at the game, and left it too late to start playing.

Andrew similarly was also a bit too cowardly imo, and left it too long to start attempting to flip the numbers on Harry.

And Mollie is the player that I feel was the most annoying contestant by the end, she sees how the final is playing out, yet she still voted Jaz out which makes no logical sense considering he was the only one that wanted to carry on banishing at that point.

Plus I didn't like her attitude towards Harry in the episode, he was assigned a role to be one of the Traitors, she was being really unfair to him imo.

Overall a very good Season, it definitely had some questionable production interference, but overall I had a lot of fun watching it.

Agree with all this. Jaz turned out to be such a coward and Mollie was so gullible. When Jaz went for 'red' at the final 3, she STILL thought Harry wasn't a traitor.
I wanted Andrew to win, but fair play, Harry deserved it, he was brilliant.
Claudia was wonderful....loved it all. Now on to the Australian one...:cheer2:

[UserSince2005]

Fuming. Complete set up. Why was Harry allowed to speak in Jaz’s chance to explain his vote? Why was Molly encouraged to change her vote by Claudia extending the time to vote?
Let me guess, Harry’s girlfriend’s dad is a BBC exec. The nepetism of that corporation is sick.