Jordan autistic traits

[Vanessa]

I've thought for a while that he could be on the spectrum.
Very uncomfortable in social situation and a bit of a loner..
Thoughts?

[GoldHeart]

Tbh I was wondering the same, wasn't Freddie BB10 also a bit autistic?.

Yeah I don't think Jordan knows how to deal with emotions and social settings , he come across cold and deadpan. We haven't seen him cry either have we ? .

[Gusto Brunt]

I've been thinking that for a long time. He's certainly the text book autistic.

[Vanessa]

Tbh I was wondering the same, wasn't Freddie BB10 also a bit autistic?.

Yeah I don't think Jordan knows how to deal with emotions and social settings , he come across cold and deadpan. We haven't seen him cry either have we ? .

That's who he reminds me of. Freddie. And I loved him as well. Greet housemate!
Yes I agree and I noticed he takes himself away when it gets too much.
I wish the others were more understand and respect his need for space.

[Babayaro.]

Definitely seems to have some traits you see in people who have aspergers

[Vanessa]

Definitely seems to have some traits you see in people who have aspergers

That's also a possiblity.

[Zizu]

I've thought for a while that he could be on the spectrum.
Very uncomfortable in social situation and a bit of a loner..
Thoughts?


I’d say Aspergers much like my good self although Aspergers is lumped in with Autism sooooo


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[Atake25]

Definitely seems to have some traits you see in people who have aspergers

Well Chanelle was blaming someone of casting Asperger’s onto people the other night

[Zizu]

Well Chanelle was blaming someone of casting Asperger’s onto people the other night


:)


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[isoveli22211]

I am autistic and have also wondered if Jordan might be. His not speaking to Henry the other day all day and then the next day not speaking to Matty could have been because he needed space from them to try and sort his head and feelings out. In the real world he would simply have switched off his phone for a day and avoided seeing them and it wouldn't have been as noticeable. I often find it very hard to manage my thoughts and feelings and avoid people when I am stressed.

[Zizu]

I am autistic and have also wondered if Jordan might be. His not speaking to Henry the other day all day and then the next day not speaking to Matty could have been because he needed space from them to try and sort his head and feelings out. In the real world he would simply have switched off his phone for a day and avoided seeing them and it wouldn't have been as noticeable. I often find it very hard to manage my thoughts and feelings and avoid people when I am stressed.


Same


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[fruit_cake]

I think Jordan experiences inside emotions that don't readily transfer to his facial expressions making him seem quite aloof.

I'm not totally convinced that it autism per se, but his lack of understanding of how his actions can make others feel would certainly be a significant question mark as to whether he is on the spectrum.

[Vanessa]

I think Jordan experiences inside emotions that don't readily transfer to his facial expressions making him seem quite aloof.

I'm not totally convinced that it autism per se, but his lack of understanding of how his actions can make others feel would certainly be a significant question mark as to whether he is on the spectrum.

Yes, something like that.

[Vanessa]

I am autistic and have also wondered if Jordan might be. His not speaking to Henry the other day all day and then the next day not speaking to Matty could have been because he needed space from them to try and sort his head and feelings out. In the real world he would simply have switched off his phone for a day and avoided seeing them and it wouldn't have been as noticeable. I often find it very hard to manage my thoughts and feelings and avoid people when I am stressed.

:hug:

[Liam-]

Are we really at this level of trying to find excuses for his bad behaviour and horrible treatment of people? :joker:

[Vanessa]

It's not an excuse, it's an observation. I've seen people talking about it on Facebook as well and it got me thinking.

[Parmy]

Tbh I was wondering the same, wasn't Freddie BB10 also a bit autistic?.

Yeah I don't think Jordan knows how to deal with emotions and social settings , he come across cold and deadpan. We haven't seen him cry either have we ? .

Explains his job I suppose.

[Denver]

Are we really at this level of trying to find excuses for his bad behaviour and horrible treatment of people? :joker:

Yea also showing one or 2 traits doesn't make you Autistic, people can't take criticism of him so have to make up things like he is disabled

[Zizu]

Are we really at this level of trying to find excuses for his bad behaviour and horrible treatment of people? :joker:


If he IS on the spectrum then he has no choice how he reacts to situations

I haven’t attended any weddings/ parties/ christenings for decades.. it’s just not an option

I stay at home in my own little bubble


When I was very young I was identified as potentially a very good footballer ( spotted by an ex England player ) but as time went on and more is expected of you as a person I had to step away from football completely



I couldn’t socialise, join in at team meetings, couldn’t even travel to away games with my other teammates

That’s just one example


In my twenties when I’d learnt a few coping strategies - I started playing 5 a side or 7 a side

In one competition where I was having a particularly good day I was asked to play for one of the other teams and I ended up playing for 2 teams in the same day , same competition !

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[rusticgal]

I think he may have a condition as his behaviour is erratic at times. I dont think he is a nasty person at all and he doesnt in my opinion deliberately ignore people to be nasty...he just likes his own space sometimes

[Liam-]

Yea also showing one or 2 traits doesn't make you Autistic, people can't take criticism of him so have to make up things like he is disabled

Trying to force a diagnosis of something that has never even been discussed about him before just to take any accountability away from his for his very obviously nasty, spiteful behaviour is a new one for me I’ve got to be honest

[Vanessa]

I think he may have a condition as his behaviour is erratic at times. I dont think he is a nasty person at all and he doesnt in my opinion deliberately ignore people to be nasty...he just likes his own space sometimes

Yes I agree. He's not a nasty person at all.

[Atake25]

Yes I agree. He's not a nasty person at all.

He’s unempathetic and selfish though
Not nice traits to have

[Mich3LL3]

I actually thought he was more of an introvert who made his quirky traits a personality.

[Vanessa]

He’s unempathetic and selfish though
Not nice traits to have

I think he feels things, but he has trouble expressing it.
That's why I said he could be one he spectrum.

[Zizu]

I think he may have a condition as his behaviour is erratic at times. I dont think he is a nasty person at all and he doesnt in my opinion deliberately ignore people to be nasty...he just likes his own space sometimes


Autism/ Aspergers are so difficult to explain/ understand

Every autistic person is unique.. just with numerous similarities with others on the spectrum


If you grouped ten autistics in a room maybe only two of them would talk to each other .. the others may not even make eye contact

I myself am Aspergers which used to be described as ‘high functioning’ autism as I / we can mask/hide all our anxieties/ idiosyncrasies from you ‘normal’ folk :)


I only share information about myself when I know I can trust someone implicitly


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[Zizu]

I think he feels things, but he has trouble expressing it.
That's why I said he could be one he spectrum.


Yes


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[Denver]

Trying to force a diagnosis of something that has never even been discussed about him before just to take any accountability away from his for his very obviously nasty, spiteful behaviour is a new one for me I’ve got to be honest

Also has Yin deals with someone who has it daily she would have said something if she though he had the same but there is no indication she even thinks that

[Vanessa]

He's not nasty and spiteful at all. No doubt he's a complex character.
And Yinrun is very close to him. She seems to understand him very wel

[smudgie]

Trying to force a diagnosis of something that has never even been discussed about him before just to take any accountability away from his for his very obviously nasty, spiteful behaviour is a new one for me I’ve got to be honest

I totally agree.

[Liam-]

I totally agree.

I also think it’s quite offensive to people on the spectrum, to see his behaviour and the way he’s treating people like dirt for his own entertainment and to just try and link it to autism, it doesn’t sit right with me at all

[Ammi]

…that’s an interesting thought, Vanessa…I think this has been discussed before…(…not here but on another site…)…quite a while ago when they first went in and on social media as well, I think…so obviously something that people are thinking …

[GlitterUK]

I asked it in another thread as I wasn't sure but seems there is no certaincy but it would explain a few more things if true.

[Jessica.]

His mum already made a post on facebook saying that Jordan does not have autism.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Just when I was calling Jordan a dickhead a thread about possible autism pops up

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I am autistic and have also wondered if Jordan might be. His not speaking to Henry the other day all day and then the next day not speaking to Matty could have been because he needed space from them to try and sort his head and feelings out. In the real world he would simply have switched off his phone for a day and avoided seeing them and it wouldn't have been as noticeable. I often find it very hard to manage my thoughts and feelings and avoid people when I am stressed.

Or could he just be a dickhead though?

[Vanessa]

I asked it in another thread as I wasn't sure but seems there is no certaincy but it would explain a few more things if true.

It would explain a lot.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Would somebody with Austim be so self aware as to say that it "is true that I am heartless to some extent"?

[Dogeatdog]

He reminds me of Sheldon from “The Big Bang Theory”. He’s just hella awkward.

[GoldHeart]

He reminds me of Sheldon from “The Big Bang Theory”. He’s just hella awkward.

I thought of Sheldon aswell.

[Lostie!]

Am I the only one who finds publicly speculating on whether somebody is autistic to be really bad taste?

[GoldHeart]

Am I the only one who finds publicly speculating on whether somebody is autistic to be really bad taste?

There's just similarities with people with autism, I don't see it in bad taste .

[Vanessa]

There's just similarities with people with autism, I don't see it in bad taste .

Yes. I think there's people why may have it, but don't know.
To be honest I also have some of those traits. But who knows?

[Liam-]

His mum already made a post on facebook saying that Jordan does not have autism.

So now people can stop assigning his asshole personality to autism for no reason whatsoever

[Liam-]

Am I the only one who finds publicly speculating on whether somebody is autistic to be really bad taste?

Nope it’s disgusting and it’s only being done to find an excuse for his bad behaviour, the attempted linking of cruelty to autism is wildly inappropriate

[smudgie]

Nope it’s disgusting and it’s only being done to find an excuse for his bad behaviour, the attempted linking of cruelty to autism is wildly inappropriate

Very much so.:fist:

[Denver]

So now people can stop assigning his asshole personality to autism for no reason whatsoever

What for the his mom doesn't know better, I'm a medical expert because I watched ER threads

[GoldHeart]

Nope it’s disgusting and it’s only being done to find an excuse for his bad behaviour, the attempted linking of cruelty to autism is wildly inappropriate

No it's not making excuses for his bad behaviour. Well not on my part anyway.....I just noticed he is very cold and socially awkward at times , the guy talked about his dad or was it stepdad?... Overdosing and his face showed zero emotion, it was like he was making a dark joke about it in his usual deadpan style.

And Jordan has done things that has annoyed me , he's also hard to read.

[Vanessa]

No it's not making excuses for his bad behaviour. Well not on my part anyway.....I just noticed he is very cold and socially awkward at times , the guy talked about his dad or was it stepdad?... Overdosing and his face showed zero emotion, it was like he was making a dark joke about it in his usual deadpan style.

And Jordan has done things that has annoyed me , he's also hard to read.

:clap1:

[Zizu]

His mum already made a post on facebook saying that Jordan does not have autism.


Some parents , rather more than you’d expect, are in complete denial and will never admit their child is autistic ..

It’s very common sadly to the detriment of their child


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[Zizu]

Would somebody with Austim be so self aware as to say that it "is true that I am heartless to some extent"?


Yes if he’s Aspergers


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[Zizu]

Yes. I think there's people why may have it, but don't know.
To be honest I also have some of those traits. But who knows?


Well EVERYONE has similar traits to varying degrees


It’s commonly said that everyone is on the spectrum just at massively varying levels .


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[Vanessa]

Well EVERYONE has similar traits to varying degrees


It’s commonly said that everyone is on the spectrum just at massively varying levels .


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Socially awkward, prefer to be on my own. Yep that's me.

[Vanessa]

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

[smudgie]

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

Well apparently his mother said he isn’t.
She should know best.

[Zizu]

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.


His friend would be more accepting and not on denial like mum ( may be )


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[Zizu]

Well apparently his mother said he isn’t.
She should know best.


See my previous explanation


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[smudgie]

See my previous explanation


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Nah. Why would his mother be in denial?
It’s nothing to be ashamed of.

[Liam-]

His mother wouldn’t know but some randos on the internet know his brain inside and out, it’s unreal

[Zizu]

Nah. Why would his mother be in denial?
It’s nothing to be ashamed of.


I’ve worked with Autistic teenagers and parents for nearly 30 years

It isn’t uncommon for some parents to deny that their child is on the spectrum

Sometimes just one of the parents sometime both

It is what it is ..




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[Zizu]

His mother wouldn’t know but some randos on the internet know his brain inside and out, it’s unreal


See my previous explanation


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[Redway]

Maybe but I disagree with the premise you’ve used to land on that conclusion. Being socially introverted and particularly uncomfortable in groups to boot is no more a sign of autism than not being able to keep still and non-bored in the absence of social stimuli or commit to one meaningful social interaction at a time represents ADHD or a histrionic personality. Let’s just be clear on that and not be tempted to over-pathologise a perfectly normal personality dimension that has its pros and cons just like social extroversion does.

[Redway]

Socially awkward, prefer to be on my own. Yep that's me.

Preferring to be alone is not a sign of a mental illness or being on the spectrum. I agree that something’s up with Jordan but the way you’re making that point is reinforcing the erroneous modern Western idea that social introversion is a bad thing, a negative trait to be overcome and more inherently abnormal. That’s not the case.

I’m more on the lookout for pathological gossips and narcissistic types myself (people who do the most harm) than random dudes who just happen to be a little socially awkward. Stop this over-pathologisation of introversion. It is not inherently a disease.

Jordan sure is a dick but that’s not because he has autism or Asperger’s (assuming he’s even on the spectrum any more-so than the average male). As far as we know that’s just him. Maybe his mum’s in denial or isn’t but has respect for his dignity and right to medical confidentiality (which we all have), maybe she just knows him a lot better than we do (she did give birth to him after all) and knows that he actually doesn’t particularly belong to any neurodivergent fold. Maybe he’s just a dry, toxic weirdo. Maybe he’s actually more positively normal than we give him credit for but this is just the persona he’s adopted for Big Brother. It’s hard to say, because none of us actually know him well enough. But when you do know someone, it’s more a matter of what you know than think or assume about them, because you actually know and don’t need to guess so much about their personality or neurotype. You know because you know, not because such-and-such is just what you think or what someone else who similarly doesn’t know the person thinks. If the people closest to him think he’s normal, then what they say is going to be worth more than the opinions of complete strangers looking at him through a very narrow lens on reality TV. They’re the ones who know him. We don’t, not really.

I know we’re obsessed with labelling everyone and pathologising every natural quirk under the sun these days but let’s not. I like and respect you, V., but this thread really isn’t it.

[Northern Monkey]

Could just be his personality? We all have different ones, it doesn’t mean there’s necessarily some undiagnosed condition going on.

[GlitterUK]

Jordan is unique.

[Kazanne]

His mother wouldn’t know but some randos on the internet know his brain inside and out, it’s unreal

Seems you think you know him too he maybe many things but cruel is not one of them.

[Liam-]

His behaviour was cruel, idc if you don’t want to see it, but it was

[Maru]

This man keeps coming to mind. It's an impulse I must share.

https://i.imgur.com/np32wdv.jpg (https://www.newsweek.com/expert-witness-david-spiegel-diagnose-johnny-depp-pirates-caribbean-1709550)