Are the producers worse than channel 5?

[Will.]

I do feel like the production has been quite bad,

We have barely any information about all the evictions this week and it’s literally 5 days till final.

It just seems messy and unorganised.

Fridays eviction they should have announced on the main show how everything is going to work this week.

Instead they announced CBB instead of focusing on this series.

Almost as if they don’t know what there going to do and everything is last minute.

[Zizu]

Agreed

They have made a catalogue of errors throughout the series


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[Liam-]

Isn’t it some of the same producers from the last C5 series?

[GlitterUK]

I can only think they are out of practice as it has been a while!

The editing and manipulating has been really obvious this year more so than others.

[Will.]

Isn’t it some of the same producers from the last C5 series?

Would make sense.

I barely watched the last channel 5 series.

I think I started to become less interested in BB in summer 2017.

I think CBB19 was the last series I got into properly.

[Raxton]

I would say they did better than C5 era, but more inexperienced than them?

[Parmy]

They tried diversity, and its failed.

[OLLIE97]

It's not worse because there's at least been a nominations format and no one has been evicted without a public vote. They could do much better though.

[Ashsleigh]

I don't think so. But I also don't think the show has quite lived up to its 'original social experiment' tagline from the trailers considering there's been quite a bit of stirring from producers. The tasks could vastly improve and six weeks is too short for this many housemates, but overall I've enjoyed the series.

[Abra]

They tried diversity, and its failed.

Your posts are so weird

[Parmy]

Your posts are so weird

Are you going to now type out a post where you say they picked the 12 or so most interestingly conversational intellects out of the thousands who auditioned.

Or just admit they picked an angry black female, a trans, to many LGBTQ and a few different colours if skin types. Oh, and some possible opinionated disabled people for their chosen hms.:shrug:

[Abra]

Are you going to now type out a post where you say they picked the 12 or so most interestingly conversational intellects out of the thousands who auditioned.

Or just admit they picked an angry black female, a trans, to many LGBTQ and a few different colours, in and and some possible opinionated disabled peoplefor their chosen hms.:shrug:

No, I'm just going to tell you that your posts are very weird and the majority of time on here you don't seem okay.

[Christmas Lights]

They tried diversity, and its failed.

I see
So diversity is bad now ? . Do you hear yourself? .
:whistle:

BB has always been very diverse , so try again .

[Parmy]

No, I'm just going to tell you that your posts are very weird and the majority of time on here you don't seem okay.

Oh, well I've been like this for over 10 years now, so dont fret on my behalf.:wavey:

Thank you though. Much appreciated

[Parmy]

I see
So diversity is bad now ? . Do you hear yourself? .
:whistle:

BB has always been very diverse , so try again .

Diversity with an aim to bring together is bad, cause there is always something that let's it down..Let's all applaud Trish this time.

[Christmas Lights]

Are you going to now type out a post where you say they picked the 12 or so most interestingly conversational intellects out of the thousands who auditioned.

Or just admit they picked an angry black female, a trans, to many LGBTQ and a few different colours if skin types. Oh, and some possible opinionated disabled people for their chosen hms.:shrug:

Are you new to BB, it's always been very diverse over the years .

Even Jordan Stephens pointed that out on L& L , and he was completely right when he said we're going backwards now ...with people complaining about the ' diversity ' . Like seriously? :bored: .

[Ammi]

…it has seemed ok to me, a few things maybe could have been more thought out …but the social media checks etc and all other checks are something quite serious to look into and improve…first offence type thing, though…the only way is up…?…from here and it’s a been all in all a great beginning to the new look BB…

[Parmy]

Are you new to BB, it's always been very diverse over the years .

Even Jordan Stephens pointed that out on L& L , and he was completely right when he said we're going back now ...with people complaining about the ' diversity ' . Like seriously? :bored: .




Diversity has taken over. Its replaced interesting people, sacrificed them for box ticking. Take Kerry for example, to tick that box they had to bring in someone used to tv shows, and the process.

In the good old days, we had proper entertainers, not people with agendas to push..

Apart from craig in BB1 and what he was on it for.

[joeysteele]

I've been more impressed than the channel 5 era.

I think they've done rather well overall.

[Christmas Lights]

Diversity has taken over. Its replaced interesting people, sacrificed them for box ticking. Take Kerry for example, to tick that box they had to bring in someone used to tv shows, and the process.

In the good old days, we had proper entertainers, not people with agendas to push..

Apart from craig in BB1 and what he was on it for.


Yeah because Kerry & Dylan are the only disabled people to ever enter BB ...sure ok :joker: .

Also if you want to moan about reality fame addicts, you might aswell mention Olivia ,Tom & Farida who have all been on other TV shows prior to BB. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul tried to do LI after this .

[Ashsleigh]

Are you going to now type out a post where you say they picked the 12 or so most interestingly conversational intellects out of the thousands who auditioned.

Or just admit they picked an angry black female, a trans, to many LGBTQ and a few different colours if skin types. Oh, and some possible opinionated disabled people for their chosen hms.:shrug:

"Too many LGBTQ" can you actually hear yourself, parmnion?

[Parmy]

Yeah because Kerry & Dylan are the only disabled people to ever enter BB ...sure ok :joker: .

Also if you want to moan about reality fame addicts, you might aswell mention Olivia ,Tom & Farida who have all been on other TV shows prior to BB. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul tried to do LI after this .

What was olivia and farida on?

[Parmy]

"Too many LGBTQ" can you actually hear yourself, parmnion?

No lesbians this year...just 4 homosexual men. That's not very diverse imo.

[Abra]

Diversity has taken over. Its replaced interesting people, sacrificed them for box ticking. Take Kerry for example, to tick that box they had to bring in someone used to tv shows, and the process.

In the good old days, we had proper entertainers, not people with agendas to push..

Apart from craig in BB1 and what he was on it for.
It's the fact that you see people of colour and people with a disability as just a "box to tick" that is the most revealing about your own ignorance and prejudice.

[Mike0902]

It's been manipulated from the start and seems almost scripted, especially when they set out to show Yinrun in a bad light by putting her in a cage and the fake wailing. Just to rub it in they then gave her a task to fake cry in order to win a party which sealed the deal. Not sure if she can recover from that, I still see loads of comments on social media calling her out for that very reason. If she's up for eviction before the final I would fear she would suffer the same fate as Trish, a housemate who's liked and disliked in equal numbers.

[Christmas Lights]

What was olivia and farida on?

Come dine & rate my takeaway .

[Zizu]

Come dine & rate my takeaway .


Tom was apparently in two shows .. and one of the housemates is apparently booked to do Deal or No Deal soon


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[Christmas Lights]

Tom was apparently in two shows .. and one of the housemates is apparently booked to do Deal or No Deal soon


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Yeah I saw a clip of Tom the weasel .

[Jack_]

It was a promising start but on balance, I have to say I’m not impressed

Things they got right:

Amazing house
Diverse casting (though none of these housemates have “popped” and set the world alight)
Someone finally telling Marcus to tone it down (I bet he was fuming)
Consistent(ish) format

Things they got wrong:


Censoring the live feed. They just don’t get it. House montages are supposed to be for things you GENUINELY can’t broadcast legally, same with bird noise. It’s not to cover up things for the highlights show! Expect the feed to be axed next year
Vote to evict. Public still can’t be trusted. Also appalling format from a channel running mental health campaigns
Building an (ugly) outdoor set again, and thus allowing the scum crowd back. Was time for a change to an indoor set up and a more intimate audience
Incidental music on the edit. Stop trying to make nominations sound “tense”. The commercial music is annoying too but I can appreciate that’s what people expect from reality TV these days
Far too many tasks. They’ve been ok but they’re constant
Backdoor, pre-taped evictions. This is C5 bollocks
Meddling with nomination thresholds
Non-chronological editing, and splicing different shots together to literally fake scenes. This has been proven by the live feed so again, expect it to disappear!
And finally, we’re back to civilian playing second fiddle to CBB. Do **** off


I have enjoyed it but I’m also over it and don’t care if it’s axed

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

They're definitely doing this to make sure Olivia wins . She will never have my vote.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I can only think they are out of practice as it has been a while!

The editing and manipulating has been really obvious this year more so than others.

The shortening of the time doesn't help if it gives production more incentive to overreact. If it is longer then they don't have to manipulate as much because there is more time for personalities to come forward and drama to develop.

Imo, the manipulation is closer to CBB and in that way very familiar. CBB was always heavyhanded (also short on time) with both the editing and meddling. That's just my memory of it and what I remember feeling at the time.

Are you going to now type out a post where you say they picked the 12 or so most interestingly conversational intellects out of the thousands who auditioned.

Or just admit they picked an angry black female, a trans, to many LGBTQ and a few different colours if skin types. Oh, and some possible opinionated disabled people for their chosen hms.:shrug:

It sounds like you are saying more they have been typecast. I agree with that. It's almost like they prewrote the roles they wanted to fill and chose people who would be the most stable fit for that role and will hold their own.

There has to always be diversity in casting or else it is too of a boring show. But I agree here they crafted such obvious roles for each HM they knew what exactly was expected of them upon entering the house. Whereas before it took longer to get to know an HM in the past. They had to find their niche.

Edit/An aside: On introspection I think part of the reason Jenkin may have struggled is because he saw through this. Maybe subconsciously he saw he was being typecast as the group fatty as people started arriving. Then to have Olivia reject him so publicly in front of millioms on the first night. I don't know how much encouragement or meddling they are giving towards fitting their certain character, but that could have been the tough pill. I really felt there was something more to that than Jenkin being nominated for the punishment for him to have gone in his crabshell like that. (I really felt for him in that moment.)

I think because each person fit their niche so well, not only was there as much conflict (not necessarily bad?) from different communication styles.. but everyone communicated so well based on the filters they were given, it almost made future drama much more predictable. And also reactions.

I had thought they cast really well. Now I wonder if they cast too well. And also they messed up with background screens in a serious way...