Sam Thompson is so annoying

[Will.]

He’s unbearable to watch at times, can’t stand him personally.

[Vanessa]

He has Adhd.

[Gusto Brunt]

Big mouth people irritate me as well. Plus he seems so fake.

[Zizu]

Big mouth people irritate me as well. Plus he seems so fake.


I’ve seen him on a few shows and I am 100% sure he’s genuinely just being himself


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[Garfie]

I’ve seen him on a few shows and I am 100% sure he’s genuinely just being himself


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I’d have to agree with this. He’s a bit of an acquired taste, and someone people will either love or hate, but he is the same no matter what he appears on. He can be a bit cringeworthy at times, but he is harmless and he is what he is - a bit like an over-enthusiastic puppy dog.

[GlitterUK]

He is like an excited kid but he is harmless. Very eager and excited at the small things.

[Strictly Jake]

I couldn't stand him on the launch however in last night's episode I warmed to him a bit. Hopefully he will grow on me more but he needs to calm down a bit

[rusticgal]

In CBB he formed a friendship with another young bloke…now he is doing the same with Marvin. If he keeps all this JLS stuff going on it will get on my nerves.

[Denver]

This guy will do any show for a Mars bar

[DanielM787]

I would love to see him do a trial, maybe even a water one

[hijaxers]

I’ve seen him on a few shows and I am 100% sure he’s genuinely just being himself


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Yes i think he is , always irritating to the point you have to switch off, perfect reason for not watching. Same on every show i've been unfortunate enough to see him on.

[Strictly Jake]

I don't know I really quite like him at the moment. Made me laugh when Jamie was crying about her kids and he said yeah I get what you mean I have two cats! Haha!

[jet]

He has Adhd.

I like him so far.

He was diagnosed with a form of autism and motor tics (eg, rapid eye blinking) as well.

https://happiful.com/sam-thompson-on-receiving-an-adult-adhd-diagnosis

[jet]

I don't know I really quite like him at the moment. Made me laugh when Jamie was crying about her kids and he said yeah I get what you mean I have two cats! Haha!

Yeah, that was funny :laugh:

[GlitterUK]

The mentioning of the two cats was a classic moment! He said another comment also which was comparing himself but I cannot remember it.

[Liam-]

I found him annoying on cbb, but I’m quite enjoying him on this

[Mystic Mock]

He’s unbearable to watch at times, can’t stand him personally.

Tbf I remember him being annoying on CBB.:laugh:

[Vanessa]

The mentioning of the two cats was a classic moment! He said another comment also which was comparing himself but I cannot remember it.

Anyone who loves cats is alright I'm my book :love:

[Cherie]

The comment about the cats alone should hand him the win lol

[Vanessa]

The comment about the cats alone should hand him the win lol

I like that he's so kind. A loving guy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A grown man with cats?

:suspect:

[DanielM787]

He should be voted for a trial

[Vanessa]

I understand, I have two cats :laugh3:

[Alf]

A grown man with cats?

:suspect:He can't be happy. We're just seeing an act.

[Zizu]

He can't be happy. We're just seeing an act.


He looked glum when they said ‘it could be you’


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[Mystic Mock]

A grown man with cats?

:suspect:

What's wrong with that?

Cats have fun personalities.

[millyrose]

He will do anything to stay in the limelight but there is nothing wrong with loving cats.

[Zizu]

He will do anything to stay in the limelight but there is nothing wrong with loving cats.


I just think he’s being himself totally …

Even when he was told “it could be you” and he displayed the real look of dread and disappointment on his face .. you can’t fake that


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[GlitterUK]

I think he is definitely one of the people who goes from show to show and likes and enjoys the limelight but no harm in that.

I would like to see him in an argument just to see how he deals with confrontation.

[GoldHeart]

Did you see how excited he was about the tick .

[Zizu]

Did you see how excited he was about the tick .


ADHD

He will get excited about lots of things

Have you ever heard of YungBlud (singer) !?

Everyone assumes he’s on drugz 24/7 but he just has ADHD

[GoldHeart]

ADHD

He will get excited about lots of things

Have you ever heard of YungBlud (singer) !?

Everyone assumes he’s on drugz 24/7 but he just has ADHD

Yeah I figured Sam was ADHD

[Garfie]

He also has autism, which would explain his awkward social skills, and his lack of understanding of the appropriate way to greet people, hence the over-enthusiastic hugs that almost seemed like an invasion of camp mates’ personal boundaries and space.

[GlitterUK]

The kiss with Jamie would have been good to see, did his excitement lead to an over enthusiastic cheeky kiss

[Garfie]

The kiss with Jamie would have been good to see, did his excitement lead to an over enthusiastic cheeky kiss

Maybe!:laugh:

[Zizu]

The kiss with Jamie would have been good to see, did his excitement lead to an over enthusiastic cheeky kiss


I gathered it was the other way around ??!


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[millyrose]

He is really starting to annoy me

[Mystic Mock]

ADHD

He will get excited about lots of things

Have you ever heard of YungBlud (singer) !?

Everyone assumes he’s on drugz 24/7 but he just has ADHD

ADHD and in need of spelling lessons that guy needs.

[Zizu]

ADHD and in need of spelling lessons that guy needs.


He’s just yung

:)

Fabulous songs though ( and interesting , thought provoking lyrics /words )


When he was younger he saw guys purposely getting young women ( including his older sister ) tiddly then taking them off somewhere to take advantage..he’s done a great song about those guys.

He’s written a few songs about his troubles at school due to his ADHD

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[DanielM787]

I do believe some of it is put on for more tv time. Even Grace has her suspicions that Sam is faking some of it.

[Cherie]

I don't recall him acting like that in CBB at all :shrug:

I have looked at some clips now, he was a bit like this but seems to have ramped up.

[Zizu]

I don't recall him acting like that in CBB at all :shrug: am wrong?


Can’t recall

Someone said he was just like this in The only way is Essex though


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[GoldHeart]

I don't recall him acting like that in CBB at all :shrug:

I have looked at some clips now, he was a bit like this but seems to have ramped up.

His ADHD/ autism seems more advanced now .

[Zizu]

His ADHD/ autism seems more advanced now .


It’s probably the pressurised situation … hunger , sweltering humid conditions, insect bites etc


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[jones89]

He’s actually grown on me alot and his over the top/excited personality does seem genuine to me.. you just get the vibe when someone’s milking it ahem.. Nella

[Mystic Mock]

He’s just yung

:)

Fabulous songs though ( and interesting , thought provoking lyrics /words )


When he was younger he saw guys purposely getting young women ( including his older sister ) tiddly then taking them off somewhere to take advantage..he’s done a great song about those guys.

He’s written a few songs about his troubles at school due to his ADHD

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Fair enough, tbf I haven't listened to any of his songs as far as I'm aware.

And obviously a shame what happened to his Sister.

[Garfie]

I like him, and am finding him amusing as camp leader!

[jet]

I really like Sam too - at a distance :laugh:

[Dogeatdog]

https://i.ibb.co/f8d3qH6/IMG-0354.jpg

[Garfie]

I love his relationship with Marvin, who is a great guy, and I am finding Sam amusing.

[Zizu]

He’s actually grown on me alot and his over the top/excited personality does seem genuine to me.. you just get the vibe when someone’s milking it ahem.. Nella


Correct on both counts

Looks like he’s gaining popularity

Odds on to win it now — to win £10 you have to risk £11 as things stand

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[Zizu]

I love his relationship with Marvin, who is a great guy, and I am finding Sam amusing.


Yeah Marvin is a genuinely nice guy .. he’s jumped up in the odds ratings after last night as well


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[Garfie]

Yeah Marvin is a genuinely nice guy .. he’s jumped up in the odds ratings after last night as well


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I can’t believe he’s only 50/1, and so far behind so many others.

[Cherie]

Tony seems a good bet too

[rusticgal]

I liked seeing a more serious side to Sam last night...opening up. I can see him winning this.

[Zizu]

I liked seeing a more serious side to Sam last night...opening up. I can see him winning this.


Yeah that was very heart warming .. I really felt for him .. it is sooooo hard to open up like that to others especially about things you’ve bottled up for decades ..


That could have been the first time he’s ever shared those feelings of inadequacies


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[Garfie]

I liked seeing a more serious side to Sam last night...opening up. I can see him winning this.

It was good to see, and I think it gave us all the chance to understand Sam and his behaviours a lot better. When someone opens up so genuinely and honestly, revealing their insecurities and vulnerabilities like Sam did, it connects us to them so much more.

One of the greatest things about Sam, is the positive reactions he brings out in most of the other camp mates, and the relationships he has formed as a result are touching to watch.

Through their responses to Sam, Marvin has shown himself to be an admirable person, Nick has shown much more of his fun side, and Tony has shown his patience and consideration, even taking Sam’s hand when they were walking by the water on their way to the motel. He’s also brought out the best in Fred.

Sam, being Sam, is allowing others to show their best qualities, and this is gaining them more support as a consequence.

[GoldHeart]

It's obvious Sam will win , it's between him & Josie :sleep: .

[Mystic Mock]

It's obvious Sam will win , it's between him & Josie :sleep: .

From the comments it sounds like Sam's improved his strategy from the CBB days.:laugh:

[Zizu]

From the comments it sounds like Sam's improved his strategy from the CBB days.:laugh:


Well in Sam’s defence you do indeed improve your coping strategies as you age .


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[Garfie]

It's obvious Sam will win , it's between him & Josie :sleep: .

I can’t see the appeal of Josie, personally. She’s okay, but not a potential winner for me.

[Mike0902]

It's obvious Sam will win , it's between him & Josie :sleep: .

I don't think so, Josie is quickly falling out of favour on Facebook, I can't find anyone supporting her. Sam's support is unpredictable, many find him irritating and annoying while others are staunch supporters although they keep playing the ADHD card which isn't doing him any favours. The one to watch is Tony, I see a lot of growing support probably because of the weakness of Josie and Sam's support and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him crowned the winner next Sunday. His odds are down from 16/1 to 3/1 which says it all. Personally I hope not, I'm relying on Sam for the Xmas money but I can already see it disappearing into the distance. :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

Well in Sam’s defence you do indeed improve your coping strategies as you age .


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Fair enough.

[Cherie]

I don't think so, Josie is quickly falling out of favour on Facebook, I can't find anyone supporting her. Sam's support is unpredictable, many find him irritating and annoying while others are staunch supporters although they keep playing the ADHD card which isn't doing him any favours. The one to watch is Tony, I see a lot of growing support probably because of the weakness of Josie and Sam's support and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him crowned the winner next Sunday. His odds are down from 16/1 to 3/1 which says it all. Personally I hope not, I'm relying on Sam for the Xmas money but I can already see it disappearing into the distance. :shrug:

I put a few pounds on Tony as I think he could take the crown

[Liam-]

I do really like him and think he’s a proper sweetheart, but he is starting to become a bit much for me to handle watching every night

[Zizu]

I do really like him and think he’s a proper sweetheart, but he is starting to become a bit much for me to handle watching every night


He does appear to be getting a bit too rumbustious so he’s possibly close to meltdown and nobody ( even himself) will realise … he could experience a real low in the coming days and then he’ll re-centre if that makes sense


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[millyrose]

I still find Sam very annoying

[GoldHeart]

I still find Sam very annoying

His ADHD plays a part ,but I think he pushes boundaries to get a reaction.... especially with Tony . If Tony lashes out then he'd be considered 'The bad guy' . I think Sam knows what he's doing .

[GoldHeart]

I don't think so, Josie is quickly falling out of favour on Facebook, I can't find anyone supporting her. Sam's support is unpredictable, many find him irritating and annoying while others are staunch supporters although they keep playing the ADHD card which isn't doing him any favours. The one to watch is Tony, I see a lot of growing support probably because of the weakness of Josie and Sam's support and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him crowned the winner next Sunday. His odds are down from 16/1 to 3/1 which says it all. Personally I hope not, I'm relying on Sam for the Xmas money but I can already see it disappearing into the distance. :shrug:

I'll be pleasantly surprised if Sam doesn't win and if instead Tony wins , it would be like another Joey Essex delicious moment lol. But I still think Sam will win ...Tony will possibly make the final but that's it imo . I personally would prefer Tony ,Nick or Marv to win ,but I wish we saw more of Marv .

[jet]

I put a few pounds on Tony as I think he could take the crown

Yeah, I've done the same. :hee:

[Zizu]

His ADHD plays a part ,but I think he pushes boundaries to get a reaction.... especially with Tony . If Tony lashes out then he'd be considered 'The bad guy' . I think Sam knows what he's doing .


I’m not sure … he was playing with fire last night by prodding and jabbing a narky Bellew


I just don’t think he can help himself


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[GoldHeart]

I’m not sure … he was playing with fire last night by prodding and jabbing a narky Bellew


I just don’t think he can help himself


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He slapped his face the other day claiming a "mosquito " was there, I doubt it was a mosquito. Sam has wind up merchant vibes all over him despite his ADHD. And he's testing Tony's patience more than any other campmate.

[OnTheRight]

I’m not sure … he was playing with fire last night by prodding and jabbing a narky Bellew


I just don’t think he can help himself


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Would love Bellew to KO the little brat.

[millyrose]

His ADHD plays a part ,but I think he pushes boundaries to get a reaction.... especially with Tony . If Tony lashes out then he'd be considered 'The bad guy' . I think Sam knows what he's doing .

I agree i also think he knows what he's doing. He overreacts on everything.

[Alf]

His ADHD/ autism seems more advanced now .It didn't use to exist
It used to be called "annoying attention seeking" then it was called "hyperactive"

It's just basically lack of discipline as a child. Got away with being a brat as a child and grew up that way.

A smacked arse was the only remedy needed.

[jet]

His ADHD plays a part ,but I think he pushes boundaries to get a reaction.... especially with Tony . If Tony lashes out then he'd be considered 'The bad guy' . I think Sam knows what he's doing .

Whether he does or he doesn't (and I'm not sure he could keep up an act for all this time), I find him really likeable. He and Tony are my favourites - either of them for the win!

[Garfie]

He slapped his face the other day claiming a "mosquito " was there, I doubt it was a mosquito. Sam has wind up merchant vibes all over him despite his ADHD. And he's testing Tony's patience more than any other campmate.

Sam’s ADHD is out of control, but I do find it quite amusing. To their credit, a lot of the men in the camp have accepted Sam exactly as he is, and have shown great sensitivity and understanding - in particular, Marvin, Nick and Tony. Tony has shown such tolerance and patience with Sam, as well as love and affection. The way Tony hugged Sam after reading his letter was full of fondness, and you can’t fake that. And I don’t think Tony is the type of guy who would fake it.

I think Sam is bringing out the best qualities in many others, and in these three in particular, and that only increases their chances of winning.

[Zizu]

He slapped his face the other day claiming a "mosquito " was there, I doubt it was a mosquito. Sam has wind up merchant vibes all over him despite his ADHD. And he's testing Tony's patience more than any other campmate.


There was actually a little blood on his temple where the mosquito was squished


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[Vanessa]

I love him. He's probably my favorite :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

There was actually a little blood on his temple where the mosquito was squished


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That was not a mosquito.

[Zizu]

That was not a mosquito.


Maybe another bug though .. why take a chance

:)


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[Mike0902]

Sam had the best edit last night and has gone to 4/7 in the betting but I still don't think he's got it in the bag. Tony is mega popular on Facebook especially with the older ones who are more likely to vote.

Personally I don't think it's fair that he came in nearly a week late and hasn't gone through the earlier trials and jumping out of helicopters to get to camp. He was probably chauffered in and then a short walk into camp with Frankie. If Sam wasn't there to play him up he wouldn't have got the airtime and be nearly as popular as he seems to be. It might be controversial but without Sam he seems a bit of a dullard.

[Garfie]

Sam had the best edit last night and has gone to 4/7 in the betting but I still don't think he's got it in the bag. Tony is mega popular on Facebook especially with the older ones who are more likely to vote.

Personally I don't think it's fair that he came in nearly a week late and hasn't gone through the earlier trials and jumping out of helicopters to get to camp. He was probably chauffered in and then a short walk into camp with Frankie. If Sam wasn't there to play him up he wouldn't have got the airtime and be nearly as popular as he seems to be. It might be controversial but without Sam he seems a bit of a dullard.

I like Tony, but I think you have a point here. I think Sam has actually brought out the best side of many of those in camp, in particular Tony, Marvin and Nick. Even Nigel is showing tolerance with him. In some way, we’ve seen qualities of camp mates characters that perhaps we wouldn’t have without Sam’s presence, which is a good thing as it all makes up the person they are, and makes them all more interesting to watch.

[jet]

I like Tony, but I think you have a point here. I think Sam has actually brought out the best side of many of those in camp, in particular Tony, Marvin and Nick. Even Nigel is showing tolerance with him. In some way, we’ve seen qualities of camp mates characters that perhaps we wouldn’t have without Sam’s presence, which is a good thing as it all makes up the person they are, and makes them all more interesting to watch.

Good points, I totally agree.

[GoldHeart]

When he wins he might aswell laugh in everyone's faces and scream "ha ha i fooled you all" .

[Mike0902]

When he wins he might aswell laugh in everyone's faces and scream "ha ha i fooled you all" .
I don't think so Sam doesn't seem to have a nasty bone in his body, he might come across as a bit OTT but there's nowhere else left that deserves to win and I certainly can't see anyone in there that can stop him now. Tony Bellend is starting to show a nasty side and while Nigel Farage is coming up fast on the rails I certainly can't see him beating Sam.

[millyrose]

Of course Sam is going to win it's so predictable.

[AnnieK]

When he wins he might aswell laugh in everyone's faces and scream "ha ha i fooled you all" .

Fooled you all about what?

[GoldHeart]

Fooled you all about what?

Everything
I guess he didn't win CBB because of his formal warning ,so now he's trying his luck at IAC ...and he knows he's going to win .

[Zizu]

Everything
I guess he didn't win CBB because of his formal warning ,so now he's trying his luck at IAC ...and he knows he's going to win .


Formal warning ?

For what ?


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[GoldHeart]

Formal warning ?

For what ?


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I thought everyone was a big Sam fan and followed his journey through TV lmao .

[Zizu]

I thought everyone was a big Sam fan and followed his journey through TV lmao .


I only knew him from the love island chat show


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[GoldHeart]

I only knew him from the love island chat show


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He slapped someone's breast/ nipple, they were wearing a see through top or something. And he thought it was funny. And the person gasped that it hurt . But I think she said she was ok about it after BB asked her. Probably because she was friends with him.

[Zizu]

He slapped someone's breast/ nipple, they were wearing a see through top or something. And he thought it was funny. And the person gasped that it hurt . But I think she said she was ok about it after BB asked her. Probably because she was friends with him.


That’s faulty processing … akin to throwing little stones onto Tony’s face .. one hit him in his eye .. luckily it was closed at the time


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[GoldHeart]

That’s faulty processing … akin to throwing little stones onto Tony’s face .. one hit him in his eye .. luckily it was closed at the time


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So basically Sam can do what he wants and we have to excuse it as his 'ADHD' . He's a grown ass 30 year old man . Even if a child is misbehaving with additional needs ,you still address that what they're doing is wrong . You don't just say " oh well they can't help it ", obviously you try to have a better understanding ...but you don't just let off their bad behaviour.

Sam is Peter Griffin


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[Zizu]

So basically Sam can do what he wants and we have to excuse it as his 'ADHD' . He's a grown ass 30 year old man . Even if a child is misbehaving with additional needs ,you still address that what they're doing is wrong . You don't just say " oh well they can't help it ", obviously you try to have a better understanding ...but you don't just let off their bad behaviour.

Sam is Peter Griffin


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I wouldn’t say it’s an excuse… as neither examples are acceptable.. simply a reason.


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[GoldHeart]

I wouldn’t say it’s an excuse… as neither examples are acceptable.. simply a reason.


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Well it is an excuse , as back in BB I don't think he was diagnosed with ADHD . But now anything he does is seen as 'endearing ' & 'funny', because bless him he has ADHD. Anne Hegerty was in the jungle a few years ago ,and she has autism :shrug: .

[Zizu]

Well it is an excuse , as back in BB I don't think he was diagnosed with ADHD . But now anything he does is seen as 'endearing ' & 'funny', because bless him he has ADHD. Anne Hegerty was in the jungle a few years ago ,and she has autism :shrug: .


Every single person on the spectrum are unique though , just like fingerprints


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[Garfie]

So basically Sam can do what he wants and we have to excuse it as his 'ADHD' . He's a grown ass 30 year old man . Even if a child is misbehaving with additional needs ,you still address that what they're doing is wrong . You don't just say " oh well they can't help it ", obviously you try to have a better understanding ...but you don't just let off their bad behaviour.

Sam is Peter Griffin


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The thing is, the camp mates don’t seem to have the issue you do with Sam, who is obviously very popular amongst them. They are all grown adults, old enough and strong enough to speak up for themselves, if they feel the need. They just don’t.

Sam is harmless, he really hasn’t done anything terrible, and is more mischievous than anything else. Some viewers may find him irritating, but many don’t. It’s all down to personal preferences and tolerances, but is he really so bad in the great scheme of things that he is deserving of constant criticism?

[AnnieK]

The thing is, the camp mates don’t seem to have the issue you do with Sam, who is obviously very popular amongst them. They are all grown adults, old enough and strong enough to speak up for themselves, if they feel the need. They just don’t.

Sam is harmless, he really hasn’t done anything terrible, and is more mischievous than anything else. Some viewers may find him irritating, but many don’t. It’s all down to personal preferences and tolerances, but is he really so bad in the great scheme of things that he is deserving of constant criticism?

Great post :clap1:

He isn't everyone's cup of tea but very strange some of the vitriol he is getting. It's like people think he has some weird power over production and his camp mates.

He would drive me mad if I were in there but I like him a lot

[Garfie]

Well it is an excuse , as back in BB I don't think he was diagnosed with ADHD . But now anything he does is seen as 'endearing ' & 'funny', because bless him he has ADHD. Anne Hegerty was in the jungle a few years ago ,and she has autism :shrug: .

He was only diagnosed recently, which is not unusual. Many adults, who have spent their whole lives either being or feeling not quite able to fit into society’s norms, are diagnosed as either autistic, ADHD or both in adulthood. This is because understanding and testing were not very widely available when they were younger, especially as these conditions tend to be part of a spectrum, so vary widely in terms of symptoms and severity.

People who were, in the past, seen as ‘odd’ might well have had either of these issues. It’s similar to dyslexia which was often seen as lack of ability or intelligence back in the day, but is now understood and identified more easily.

As humans, we make advances in our understanding of how the brain functions all the time, and this is surely a good thing. If it helps us to be less dismissive and judgemental of others, surely this is positive progress.

There is a certain amount we can address and control in our personalities, behaviours and in our thinking, but if the brain functions differently, it really isn’t a simple case of mind over matter. It’s similar to dementia - you cannot just think yourself better, as it is beyond your control.

[Garfie]

Great post :clap1:

He isn't everyone's cup of tea but very strange some of the vitriol he is getting. It's like people think he has some weird power over production and his camp mates.

He would drive me mad if I were in there but I like him a lot

Yes, that’s exactly it! Oh, to have Sam’s superpower! :laugh:

And, if he truly does have this ability, maybe he deserves to win!?

Move over, Darren Brown! Here comes Sam Thompson! :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Yes, that’s exactly it! Oh, to have Sam’s superpower! :laugh:

And, if he truly does have this ability, maybe he deserves to win!?

Move over, Darren Brown! Here comes Sam Thompson! :laugh:

:notimpressed: .

[GoldHeart]

He was only diagnosed recently, which is not unusual. Many adults, who have spent their whole lives either being or feeling not quite able to fit into society’s norms, are diagnosed as either autistic, ADHD or both in adulthood. This is because understanding and testing were not very widely available when they were younger, especially as these conditions tend to be part of a spectrum, so vary widely in terms of symptoms and severity.

People who were, in the past, seen as ‘odd’ might well have had either of these issues. It’s similar to dyslexia which was often seen as lack of ability or intelligence back in the day, but is now understood and identified more easily.

As humans, we make advances in our understanding of how the brain functions all the time, and this is surely a good thing. If it helps us to be less dismissive and judgemental of others, surely this is positive progress.

There is a certain amount we can address and control in our personalities, behaviours and in our thinking, but if the brain functions differently, it really isn’t a simple case of mind over matter. It’s similar to dementia - you cannot just think yourself better, as it is beyond your control.

I'm well aware of people getting diagnosed later in life as being on the spectrum.

But it's like with tourettes, I watched a documentary where some people were accused of faking/ exaggerating their tourettes to get away with offensive language/ behaviour.

Because once you say someone is autistic or ADHD or has tourettes ,then they get a pass automatically.

And no I'm not downplaying people's difficulties with these conditions :shrug: .

[Garfie]

I'm well aware of people getting diagnosed later in life as being on the spectrum.

But it's like with tourettes, I watched a documentary where some people were accused of faking/ exaggerating their tourettes to get away with offensive language/ behaviour.

Because once you say someone is autistic or ADHD or has tourettes ,then they get a pass automatically.

And no I'm not downplaying people's difficulties with these conditions :shrug: .

Does any one really need an excuse to get away with bad language, when plenty of people use swear words as part of their vocabulary even when they don’t have Tourette’s?

Either way, those on the Autistic Spectrum don’t know or understand how to play up their condition, as it seems totally normal to them. There is a childlike innocence to those with Autism, and they don’t tend to lie as they lack the ability to have much of a filter, so don’t recognise that their impulsive comments or actions can seem socially unacceptable. Add ADHD to that, and the impulsivity, excitability and boisterousness is intensified greatly.

Nigel summed up Sam perfectly this evening by recognising that, he can be irritating at times, but there is a childlike joy in him that just needs to be directed or redirected appropriately.

I understand thinking negatively about people if they lead their lives in a cruel, violent or abusive manner, but unending cynicism of those who intend and cause no real harm, can make us unjustifiably judgemental of others.

[GoldHeart]

Does any one really need an excuse to get away with bad language, when plenty of people use swear words as part of their vocabulary even when they don’t have Tourette’s?

Either way, those on the Autistic Spectrum don’t know or understand how to play up their condition, as it seems totally normal to them. There is a childlike innocence to those with Autism, and they don’t tend to lie as they lack the ability to have much of a filter, so don’t recognise that their impulsive comments or actions can seem socially unacceptable. Add ADHD to that, and the impulsivity, excitability and boisterousness is intensified greatly.

Nigel summed up Sam perfectly this evening by recognising that, he can be irritating at times, but there is a childlike joy in him that just needs to be directed or redirected appropriately.

I understand thinking negatively about people if they lead their lives in a cruel, violent or abusive manner, but unending cynicism of those who intend and cause no real harm, can make us unjustifiably judgemental of others.


Oh give me a break . I'm not denying his issues and ADHD , but trying to get into bed with Tony ,when Tony was trying to sleep .....was clearly Sam pushing his buttons. Marvin knows he's a wind up aswell.

[Garfie]

Oh give me a break . I'm not denying his issues and ADHD , but trying to get into bed with Tony ,when Tony was trying to sleep .....was clearly Sam pushing his buttons. Marvin knows he's a wind up aswell.

Yes, in his childlike way, he was partly pushing buttons for a laugh, as he fails to understand social norms or cues. That doesn’t mean he is playing up his condition. There is a difference.

[Liam-]

Imagine having such a problem with someone on behalf of someone who very clearly adores Sam and plays along with him because he enjoys him and his antics

[Garfie]

Imagine having such a problem with someone on behalf of someone who very clearly adores Sam and plays along with him because he enjoys him and his antics

You’re right here. Liam. If Tony truly had any issue with Sam, I honestly think he has what it takes to tell him straight. He is a strong man mentally, as well as physically, and I can’t see him holding back.

I understand that some viewers might find Sam’s personality a bit much, and why sometimes the camp: mates might need some time out from his high energy. However, Tony can handle himself, and I’m sure he wouldn’t engage with Sam if he didn’t want to.

To his credit, Tony has shown great kindness, patience and understanding with Sam, but that’s because he feels such fondness for him. I find the relationship between them very positive and sincere.

[AnnieK]

Tony has really impressed me in there. I thought he was a know when he first went in but he has really shown a genuinely nice side of him. He would tell Sam in a heartbeat if he was pushing him too far. There is a level of vitriol aimed at Sam in this thread that is alarming. Accusing him of playing up to his ADHD is quite cruel. He is loving his time in there and just having fun and obviously expressing that.....God forbid someone isn't all doom and gloom and moaning about being starving all the time.

[millyrose]

Tony has been fantastic and i would love him to win but we all know that won't happen,
Sam is going to win.

[Garfie]

Tony has really impressed me in there. I thought he was a know when he first went in but he has really shown a genuinely nice side of him. He would tell Sam in a heartbeat if he was pushing him too far. There is a level of vitriol aimed at Sam in this thread that is alarming. Accusing him of playing up to his ADHD is quite cruel. He is loving his time in there and just having fun and obviously expressing that.....God forbid someone isn't all doom and gloom and moaning about being starving all the time.

I couldn’t agree with you more on all points, Annie. The relationship between Sam and Tony was beautiful to see tonight, and it seems like Tony didn’t need anyone speaking out to protect him from Sam after all!

[millyrose]

Well done to Sam for winning but for me it was the most predictable win that has ever been on this show. It was to much the Sam show i would just liked to see a bit more of the others.