Panicked Omid Scobie - Royal Book Error [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

jet

29-11-2023, 01:10 AM

Deliberate….and anything he claims he knows about the Royals only ever came from the mouths of 2 people….but they deny any participation :laugh:

As we know, they denied participation in Scobies last book; then Meghan had to admit to the court that she ‘forgot’ about her and Harry sending him briefing notes…

It must be penetrating the thick skulls of Meghan and Harry at last that the world is fed up to the back teeth listening to their endless drivel and grievances and dubious ‘truth’s, so they now have their lackey mouthpiece Scobie doing their dirty work for them. Nothing to do with them, of course. :laugh:

The book in a nutshell, according to the scathing reviews:
The Royals are all bad
Meghan and Harry are paragons of virtue who are never, ever wrong.
As per usual.
The End.

Maru

29-11-2023, 04:33 AM

The epitome of a bottom feeder.

bots

29-11-2023, 07:02 AM

The mistake was obviously intentional, hope he ends up in court over it, thats what Harry and Meghan would do

Cherie

29-11-2023, 09:05 AM

Why is he still banging this drum, Harry is on record in his interview with Tom Brady saying neither he or Meghan regarded it as a racist comment

arista

29-11-2023, 09:29 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/29/09/78364247-0-image-m-7_1701249036373.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12803773/Omid-Scobie-Endgame-Dutch-translation-royal-racists.html

arista

29-11-2023, 09:30 AM

Why is he still banging this drum, Harry is on record in his interview with Tom Brady saying neither he or Meghan regarded it as a racist comment

Yes to sell the book

Free publicity

bots

29-11-2023, 09:50 AM

the names are still not available online so there must be a very powerful injunction in place

arista

29-11-2023, 10:02 AM

I assume it is King Charles

Cherie

29-11-2023, 10:10 AM

I assume it is King Charles

or Camilla

bots

29-11-2023, 10:30 AM

it couldn't have been the late queen or prince Philip because only the living can be protected by the courts

Oliver_W

29-11-2023, 10:43 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/28/18/78278787-12800721-image-a-4_1701197063415.jpg

While I think "brainwashed" is a strong word, from the way Prince Harry has spoken of therapy and meditation, it doesn't seem to have had much of a positive impact on his wellbeing or relationships with his blood-relatives.

rusticgal

29-11-2023, 11:18 AM

FFS.....asking about Archies skin colour is NOT a Racist comment :nono:

user104658

29-11-2023, 04:22 PM

It could have been any or all of them. Does it matter?

bots

29-11-2023, 04:24 PM

It could have been any or all of them. Does it matter?

of course it matters, the papers have a story to run :nono:

Oliver_W

29-11-2023, 05:55 PM

It could have been any or all of them. Does it matter?

Especially as H&M have (i think?) said they didn't actually regard the comment/question as racist. Nor did most other people. While it's not the best thing to have attributed to oneself, it's not the most damaging.

MTVN

29-11-2023, 08:11 PM

Piers has revealed the names in the Dutch edition as King Charles and Kate

bots

29-11-2023, 08:52 PM

Interesting if true

Maru

29-11-2023, 09:45 PM

Piers has revealed the names in the Dutch edition as King Charles and Kate

Well, of course.

arista

30-11-2023, 12:02 AM

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arista

30-11-2023, 02:02 AM

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arista

30-11-2023, 10:11 AM

Omid
now live on this morning ITV1HD

Livia

30-11-2023, 10:26 AM

rusticgal

30-11-2023, 11:29 AM

Meghan made the claim but never heard the comment because it was allegedly said to Harry. Harry denied it to Tom Bradbury saying the royal family isn't racist and blamed the British press. Omid Scobie then names the royals.... and he did, I mean, if the names were never in the manuscript, how could it be mistranslated?

Omid Scobie is fukt.

I read somewhere that the names were originally in the transcript and he had them removed but they somehow (deliberately) didnt get removed from the Dutch edition :shrug:
Whilst Meghan was never part of these 'racist' conversations she put the accusations out there...Harry kept quiet until his interview with Tom Bradbury where he denied it was a racist comment...This Scobie bloke has deliberately spill names to get the book promoted and Harry and Meghan have got their revenge on Charles and Kate...because if it wasn't for them the names wouldn't be out there.

bots

30-11-2023, 12:36 PM

everyone knows it was an intentional dirty trick. If the names were never there, they wouldn't be in the book. The excuse is laughably bad

Zizu

30-11-2023, 12:57 PM

I assume it is King Charles

Yep
Charlie Boy and Kate

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Zizu

30-11-2023, 12:59 PM

Whilst Meghan was never part of these 'racist' conversations she put the accusations out there...

Harry kept quiet until his interview with Tom Bradbury where he denied it was a racist comment...This Scobie bloke has deliberately spill names to get the book promoted and Harry and Meghan have got their revenge on Charles and Kate....

Sounds like basic damage limitation from Harry ..

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Zizu

30-11-2023, 01:16 PM

FFS.....asking about Archies skin colour is NOT a Racist comment :nono:

Mmmmm

Depends on the context and the tone of voice ..

I don’t recall all the details but I thought it was asked before he was born ..

So maybe something like that..

“ what colour is this baby gonna be ? “

To me that would be hurtful and racist .

The suggestion with that example is that it’s a negative to be non white and that would be horrendous and extremely hurtful to the recipient.

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Cherie

30-11-2023, 02:12 PM

Mmmmm

Depends on the context and the tone of voice ..

I don’t recall all the details but I thought it was asked before he was born ..

So maybe something like that..

“ what colour is this baby gonna be ? “

To me that would be hurtful and racist .

The suggestion with that example is that it’s a negative to be non white and that would be horrendous and extremely hurtful to the recipient.

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Is it really any different to speculating if the baby will have red hair or brown eyes or whatever, it really isn't

Zizu

30-11-2023, 02:54 PM

Is it really any different to speculating if the baby will have red hair or brown eyes or whatever, it really isn't

Well nobody cares if you have blue eyes or brown hair ..

Sadly loads of people (far , far too many) do have issues with skin colour ..

I can definitely see Charley boy asking that question with a negative tone in his voice .

Imagine his horror of having a non white child in his royal photos ..

arista

30-11-2023, 02:55 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/30/01/78400947-0-image-a-44_1701309242264.jpg

Cherie

30-11-2023, 03:04 PM

Well nobody cares if you have blue eyes or brown hair ..

Sadly loads of people (far , far too many) do have issues with skin colour ..

I can definitely see Charley boy asking that question with a negative tone in his voice .

Imagine his horror of having a non white child in his royal photos ..

It has come from Harrys own mouth that the family are not racist, if that is not good enough for you not sure what is

Glenn.

30-11-2023, 03:21 PM

Well well well. KKKate aye? The reports of her being a generally awful person to Meghan don’t seem that far fetched anymore.

Zizu

30-11-2023, 03:34 PM

It has come from Harrys own mouth that the family are not racist, if that is not good enough for you not sure what is

He was probably protecting his family or maybe he was warned off / threatened financially ..

Who knows ..

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bots

30-11-2023, 03:37 PM

He was probably protecting his family or maybe he was warned off / threatened financially ..

Who knows ..

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unlikely given all the other sh!t he has come out with

Oliver_W

30-11-2023, 03:37 PM

Well nobody cares if you have blue eyes or brown hair ..

Sadly loads of people (far , far too many) do have issues with skin colour ..

I can definitely see Charley boy asking that question with a negative tone in his voice .

Imagine his horror of having a non white child in his royal photos ..

Meghan is white-passing to the point you wouldn't know she was meant to be anything else if she didn't talk about it. There's no way anyone was "worrying" about the royal photos being "ruined" by her genetic contribution.

Zizu

30-11-2023, 03:40 PM

Meghan is white-passing to the point you wouldn't know she was meant to be anything else if she didn't talk about it. There's no way anyone was "worrying" about the royal photos being "ruined" by her genetic contribution.

The photo reference wasn’t a serious point … you get the idea though

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Oliver_W

30-11-2023, 03:43 PM

The photo reference wasn’t a serious point … you get the idea though

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Yes I did get that it was an illustrative example.

Zizu

30-11-2023, 03:44 PM

Meghan is white-passing to the point you wouldn't know she was meant to be anything else if she didn't talk about it. There's no way anyone was "worrying" about the royal photos being "ruined" by her genetic contribution.

Really ?

I thought it was accepted that she looks mixed race ?

It’s a beautiful look as well , many of the most stunningly beautiful women around are mixed .

I haven’t got a clue about her parents or family genetics

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Oliver_W

30-11-2023, 03:45 PM

No-one with eyes would deny she's beautiful.

jet

30-11-2023, 04:50 PM

Well well well. KKKate aye? The reports of her being a generally awful person to Meghan don’t seem that far fetched anymore.

Not you still believing the BS that comes out of Meghan’s mouth, passed on via her cronies to her mouthpiece Scobie. Oh dear...:hehe:

Maru

30-11-2023, 08:26 PM

They really need a reaction I suppose from the palace. It's always been like a reality series that is being scripted almost exclusively through PR maneuvers and other minions. Hollywood media and reality TV have slowly been merging into a business model that exhalts alternative reality over substance almost solely through subjective means. So it's no surprise they're trying to work off of that model, but it needs drama to actually thrive. They need the counter response so that they can continue to make it out it to be something it probably really isn't in the grand scheme (ie something they can manipulate and attach suddenly new details to with purported contexts...)... if they give any kind of response, they lose. The media will get their story by whatever means. If all that's left to milk is anti-H&M drama, then that's where it will all go... none of it is an honest business and the ones "blasting" the royals probably wouldn't have liked them to begin with and will believe anything negative, so I doubt it actually changes their ability to survive? (I feel like they should know this)

rusticgal

30-11-2023, 08:36 PM

Mmmmm

Depends on the context and the tone of voice ..

I don’t recall all the details but I thought it was asked before he was born ..

So maybe something like that..

“ what colour is this baby gonna be ? “

To me that would be hurtful and racist .

The suggestion with that example is that it’s a negative to be non white and that would be horrendous and extremely hurtful to the recipient.

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It’s something Black people themselves speculate when a white person is the spouse….

jet

30-11-2023, 09:45 PM

Excellent article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12802399/Prince-harry-meghan-deny-claims-omid-scobie-book-endorse.html

SARAH VINE: Where DO Harry and Meghan stand in relation to this puppet of theirs?
…..Either the Duke and Duchess denounce this effluent and its source, Scobie, or the general public on both sides of the Atlantic will have no choice but to conclude that, in the parlance of U.S. political campaigns (and make no mistake, this is political), they fully endorse Scobie's message.
Why they would associate themselves — even tacitly — with such a person is anyone's guess. Perhaps because, having attacked the Royal Family in a full- frontal assault via their interview with Oprah Winfrey, their Netflix documentary and Harry's memoir, Spare, the world still appears somewhat sceptical of their one-sided account.
Maybe Scobie's book is one last throw of the Sussex dice, a desperate — and increasingly hysterical — attempt to reclaim the narrative in the War of the Windsors, which in recent months has made them seem increasingly surplus to requirements….etc..

Glenn.

30-11-2023, 10:19 PM

Not you still believing the BS that comes out of Meghan’s mouth, passed on via her cronies to her mouthpiece Scobie. Oh dear...:hehe:

Just doing what you do Jet. Piece together reports and as they seem to line up pretty well with KKKates behaviour towards Meghan then I can’t see it any other way.

Always knew the veil would fall. Tut tut.

Jordan.

30-11-2023, 10:35 PM

Not you still believing the BS that comes out of Meghan’s mouth, passed on via her cronies to her mouthpiece Scobie. Oh dear...:hehe:

Like you wouldn't be frothing if this was another book painting H&M as the villains :joker:

Great to see KKKate finally exposed!

bots

30-11-2023, 10:41 PM

we only have glimpses of what these people are like behind closed doors. The speculation generated from a statement already walked back by H&M is just such an almighty waste of time :laugh:

Cherie

30-11-2023, 10:44 PM

looks like the Palace have finally had enough....nothing is off the table including legal action..how ironic :laugh:

rusticgal

30-11-2023, 10:49 PM

Great to see KKKate finally exposed!

Only because you want to believe those words were spoken in that context…:laugh:

Glenn.

30-11-2023, 11:27 PM

It’s amazing to see them all scurrying around making excuses for the racists

rusticgal

01-12-2023, 12:02 AM

It’s amazing to see them all scurrying around making excuses for the racists

….and the racist comment was?…

jet

01-12-2023, 12:32 AM

Just doing what you do Jet. Piece together reports and as they seem to line up pretty well with KKKates behaviour towards Meghan then I can’t see it any other way.

Always knew the veil would fall. Tut tut.

If it is true that Kate wasn’t all over MeMeMeghan like the narcissist MeMeMeghan expected, it just shows she was way ahead of everyone else in sussing out what MeMeMeghan was like and distanced herself, much like the majority who now have her measure are doing. :shrug:

Maru

01-12-2023, 01:05 AM

we only have glimpses of what these people are like behind closed doors. The speculation generated from a statement already walked back by H&M is just such an almighty waste of time :laugh:

I only knew this happened because you said something here. I'm a part-time royal watcher in a sense, but mostly just listening to things in passing while running through chores... I'd thought the Harry & Meghan saga had run its course once all the book deals and other opportunities had passed. :shrug:

bots

01-12-2023, 04:27 AM

I only knew this happened because you said something here. I'm a part-time royal watcher in a sense, but mostly just listening to things in passing while running through chores... I'd thought the Harry & Meghan saga had run its course once all the book deals and other opportunities had passed. :shrug:

it has run it's course, it's just the media try and light a fire under it every month or 2 to see if they can get some traction :laugh:

Mystic Mock

01-12-2023, 04:49 AM

As we know, they denied participation in Scobies last book; then Meghan had to admit to the court that she ‘forgot’ about her and Harry sending him briefing notes…

It must be penetrating the thick skulls of Meghan and Harry at last that the world is fed up to the back teeth listening to their endless drivel and grievances and dubious ‘truth’s, so they now have their lackey mouthpiece Scobie doing their dirty work for them. Nothing to do with them, of course. :laugh:

The book in a nutshell, according to the scathing reviews:
The Royals are all bad
Meghan and Harry are paragons of virtue who are never, ever wrong.
As per usual.
The End.

Tbf this Scobie guy is writing it from Harry & Meghan's POV, so of course they're going to view themselves as in the right in all of these situations.

Mystic Mock

01-12-2023, 04:53 AM

FFS.....asking about Archies skin colour is NOT a Racist comment :nono:

I mean it kind of is.

Why would anyone ask what the baby's skin colour is going to be? Just looking at the parents 99.99% of the time should be the clue.:laugh:

Mystic Mock

01-12-2023, 04:58 AM

Is it really any different to speculating if the baby will have red hair or brown eyes or whatever, it really isn't

It's different tbf.

Because only a very tiny percentage of people would ask about hair colour or eye colour with any malice.

Mystic Mock

01-12-2023, 05:01 AM

It’s something Black people themselves speculate when a white person is the spouse….

But black people can be racist as well.

bots

01-12-2023, 05:52 AM

It's different tbf.

Because only a very tiny percentage of people would ask about hair colour or eye colour with any malice.

how do you know there was any malice in what was said? Both H & M explicitly said that the royals were not being racist

Jordan.

01-12-2023, 07:16 AM

If it is true that Kate wasn’t all over MeMeMeghan like the narcissist MeMeMeghan expected, it just shows she was way ahead of everyone else in sussing out what MeMeMeghan was like and distanced herself, much like the majority who now have her measure are doing. :shrug:

KKKate was wary of Meghan from day 1 because she saw someone naturally charismatic come into the fold that would show her up as the dull bumbling fool she is.

Cherie

01-12-2023, 07:26 AM

It's different tbf.

Because only a very tiny percentage of people would ask about hair colour or eye colour with any malice.

How do you know it was said with malice? it could have been said in a jokey way, pre MeMeMeghan Harry had a good relationship with his father and Kate? when Harry was asked about the comment point blank by Tom Bradby Harry denied they said it was racist and that it was the papers made that up....look it up for yourself

Glenn.

01-12-2023, 07:30 AM

It’s something Black people themselves speculate when a white person is the spouse….

It wasn’t the speculation that’s the issue. It was the “concern” for the skin colour. There were concerns what colour he would be and therein lies your racism

arista

01-12-2023, 08:13 AM

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arista

01-12-2023, 08:18 AM

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arista

01-12-2023, 08:19 AM

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James

01-12-2023, 08:45 AM

Omid's going to be a Celebrity Big Brother housemate, isn't he?

Ammi

01-12-2023, 08:51 AM

…:laugh:…maybe Harry/Meghan/Charles/Kate/William will become members and post…

arista

01-12-2023, 09:06 AM

Omid's going to be a Celebrity Big Brother housemate, isn't he?

Yes a Deal with ITV
is set up.

Oliver_W

01-12-2023, 09:15 AM

It wasn’t the speculation that’s the issue. It was the “concern” for the skin colour. There were concerns what colour he would be and therein lies your racism

Where was it said they expressed concern?

Zizu

01-12-2023, 09:40 AM

Omid's going to be a Celebrity Big Brother housemate, isn't he?

Link ??

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James

01-12-2023, 12:30 PM

Link ??

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Just my semi-serious speculation.

rusticgal

01-12-2023, 12:38 PM

It wasn’t the speculation that’s the issue. It was the “concern” for the skin colour. There were concerns what colour he would be and therein lies your racism

Meghan's words...someone who told 17 untruths in that one interview and even lied in court.

Zizu

01-12-2023, 02:48 PM

Meghan's words...someone who told 17 untruths in that one interview and even lied in court.

That doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING she utters is a mistruth or a lie ..

I can definitely imagine that sentence being uttered by someone at the palace ..

I mean just look at their track record of massive gaffs over the years ..

It why very few take the royal family seriously

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rusticgal

01-12-2023, 04:15 PM

That doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING she utters is a mistruth or a lie ..

I can definitely imagine that sentence being uttered by someone at the palace ..

I mean just look at their track record of massive gaffs over the years ..

It why very few take the royal family seriously

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Well considering she implied it to Oprah and then Harry later claimed it wasn't (and he should know since he was there and she wasn't) only goes to show she lied...:shrug:

rusticgal

01-12-2023, 04:20 PM

That doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING she utters is a mistruth or a lie ..

If you can go on National TV and mislead the public with a string of lies....if you can go into a Court of Justice under oath and lie....why should anyone ever want to believe a single thing that comes out of her mouth...

Glenn.

01-12-2023, 05:51 PM

Seem like people need to take their tinted glasses off and realise KKKate isn’t as wonderful as you hopelessly think

jet

01-12-2023, 06:32 PM

KKKate was wary of Meghan from day 1 because she saw someone naturally charismatic come into the fold that would show her up as the dull bumbling fool she is.

You got that the wrong way round Jordan. :hehe:

Odd then how the ‘fool’ Kate is respected and admired by the public and all those she works with, and is described by insiders from the various palaces (The Times) as “a clever, smart, determined woman who is quite literally the power behind the throne”!! -
meanwhile the ‘charismatic’ MeMeMeghan is seen as a quitter, a laughing stock, insincere and a pathological liar - and was even described by a top Spotify exec who worked with her as a ‘useless grifter’.
Kate is easy to like long - term. MeMeMeghans initial pushy and gushy effusiveness quickly becomes grating, and she just isn’t.

But each to their own of course as to what qualities they look up to in their public figures. :shrug:

jet

01-12-2023, 06:38 PM

Seem like people need to take their tinted glasses off and realise KKKate isn’t as wonderful as you hopelessly think

You are hilarious Glenn :laugh:
When it comes to MeMeMeghan, tinted glasses aren't for you - you are totally blindfolded. :laugh:

Glenn.

01-12-2023, 06:55 PM

rusticgal

01-12-2023, 07:00 PM

Seem like people need to take their tinted glasses off and realise KKKate isn’t as wonderful as you hopelessly think

Because Meghan and scoobie said so…:laugh:

jet

01-12-2023, 07:08 PM

The delusion is real. These haters really will defend anything as long as it goes against Meghan.

I’m just glad to see the truth finally coming to light. The whole family and its ways need to be abolished. They are good for nothing

Would you like them to quit all their charity work? They could be more useful like MeMeMeghan and go to Katy Perry, Taylor Swift and Beyonce concerts and alert the paps on trips to fancy restaurants. :laugh:

bots

01-12-2023, 07:17 PM

Don't forget the award ceremonies with meaningless titles

jet

01-12-2023, 07:24 PM

Don't forget the award ceremonies with meaningless titles

:thumbs: :hee:

rusticgal

01-12-2023, 07:46 PM

Don't forget the award ceremonies with meaningless titles

Then the catastrophic car chases….oops another lie :hehe:

Beso

01-12-2023, 08:45 PM

Scobie is a Scottish name.. is he really THAT racist

arista

02-12-2023, 06:50 PM

This was Thursdays Front page

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-23b8387d-59e2-4a7b-a96f-bd080a0db429.png

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 06:56 PM

how do you know there was any malice in what was said? Both H & M explicitly said that the royals were not being racist

Because why would you ask that question when the family already knows what Meghan looks like.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what colour skin a child of H & M will have, so there's only one intention as to why that question would be asked and it begins with an R and ends with a T.

rusticgal

02-12-2023, 06:58 PM

This was Thursdays Front page

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-23b8387d-59e2-4a7b-a96f-bd080a0db429.png

Wonder where those details come from….:whistle:

rusticgal

02-12-2023, 07:01 PM

Because why would you ask that question when the family already knows what Meghan looks like.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what colour skin a child of H & M will have, so there's only one intention as to why that question would be asked and it begins with an R and ends with a T.

Well both Archie and Lilly look predominantly white… I know a mixed race couple who have had 2 sets of twins and in both cases one twin was white and the other mixed race.

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 07:10 PM

You got that the wrong way round Jordan. :hehe:

Odd then how the ‘fool’ Kate is respected and admired by the public and all those she works with, and is described by insiders from the various palaces (The Times) as “a clever, smart, determined woman who is quite literally the power behind the throne”!! -
meanwhile the ‘charismatic’ MeMeMeghan is seen as a quitter, a laughing stock, insincere and a pathological liar - and was even described by a top Spotify exec who worked with her as a ‘useless grifter’.
Kate is easy to like long - term. MeMeMeghans initial pushy and gushy effusiveness quickly becomes grating, and she just isn’t.

But each to their own of course as to what qualities they look up to in their public figures. :shrug:

Didn't the Media dislike Kate before Meghan came along?:laugh:

Plus it's funny to me how both Kate & Meghan get so much attention for William & Harry's dislike of each other.:joker:

Alf

02-12-2023, 07:15 PM

What colour was the baby?

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 07:19 PM

This was Thursdays Front page

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-23b8387d-59e2-4a7b-a96f-bd080a0db429.png

That admittedly is in poor taste.

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 07:23 PM

Well both Archie and Lilly look predominantly white… I know a mixed race couple who have had 2 sets of twins and in both cases one twin was white and the other mixed race.

I get that mixed race children can have lighter or darker shades of skin colour depending on the genetics of the parents, I do get that tbf.

I just don't get why that question would be asked, especially when knowing what Harry & Meghan both look like, the answer is going to be mixed race regardless of if the child looks a certain way.

rusticgal

02-12-2023, 07:42 PM

I get that mixed race children can have lighter or darker shades of skin colour depending on the genetics of the parents, I do get that tbf.

I just don't get why that question would be asked, especially when knowing what Harry & Meghan both look like, the answer is going to be mixed race regardless of if the child looks a certain way.

But if you look at them neither of them look mixed race…in fact Lily looks very fair skinned….but there was always a chance the children could have looked a lot darker in their skin tone…of course they are still Mixed Race but the curiosity was about their skin tone and what it would be.
It was simply curiosity that has been turned into a Racist comment….later backtracked by Harry.

jet

02-12-2023, 08:22 PM

Didn't the Media dislike Kate before Meghan came along?:laugh:

NO, where on earth did you get that from? Why would they dislike her?

jet

02-12-2023, 08:30 PM

Plus it's funny to me how both Kate & Meghan get so much attention for William & Harry's dislike of each other.:joker:

Given all that transpired since Meghan's arrival on the scene, I don't understand what you mean here...:conf:

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 08:40 PM

What colour was the baby?

It was called yellow
Your skinnnnn, oh yeah your skin & bones
Turnnnnn innnn to something beautiful

Also we need to add an EastEnders duff duff to this plot twist.

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 08:43 PM

NO, where on earth did you get that from? Why would they dislike her?

I'm sure some of the Media used to find her "boring and robotic" for William back in the day.

Granted I don't think it was as widespread amongst the Media as it has been with Meghan, but I'm pretty sure that some of the Media never used to be as kind to Kate in the past compared to how they treat her now.

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 08:45 PM

But if you look at them neither of them look mixed race…in fact Lily looks very fair skinned….but there was always a chance the children could have looked a lot darker in their skin tone…of course they are still Mixed Race but the curiosity was about their skin tone and what it would be.
It was simply curiosity that has been turned into a Racist comment….later backtracked by Harry.

Maybe it's just me, but I have never heard anyone try and guess the skin tone of a child before.

I'm used to hair colour or eye colour, but never skin tone.

Mystic Mock

02-12-2023, 08:47 PM

Given all that transpired since Meghan's arrival on the scene, I don't understand what you mean here...:conf:

My point being that Kate & Meghan are getting more attention and criticism over the fact that William & Harry have issues with each other.

Oliver_W

02-12-2023, 08:57 PM

Plus it's funny to me how both Kate & Meghan get so much attention for William & Harry's dislike of each other.:joker:

It's either infantalising, by suggesting their mummywives made all the decisions for them, or suggesting the women are bitches for causing and encouraging the rift.

smudgie

02-12-2023, 09:03 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I have never heard anyone try and guess the skin tone of a child before.

I'm used to hair colour or eye colour, but never skin tone.

I have.
We have a few generations of mixed race in our family.
My daughter’s partner is mixed race.
I don’t think it’s any different wondering how the babies will look, hair, eyes, who they resemble etc.:shrug:

jet

02-12-2023, 09:20 PM

I'm sure some of the Media used to find her "boring and robotic" for William back in the day.

Granted I don't think it was as widespread amongst the Media as it has been with Meghan, but I'm pretty sure that some of the Media never used to be as kind to Kate in the past compared to how they treat her now.

I can't say I've ever seen the media calling Kate boring and robotic - Ive seen it here from some on BB though.
The media did use to call her waity Katey because William took so long to propose to her.

Glenn.

02-12-2023, 11:59 PM

thesheriff443

03-12-2023, 12:07 AM

The thing the haters seem to be deliberately misunderstanding is what actually happened. There were no wonderings about the skin colour of the baby. There were CONCERNS.

You have to be a certain kind of stupid to not understand why that IS racist.

You have to be stupid if you can’t understand that the father of the child in question was asked are the people that asked the question, ie, his family racist?
And his reply was no they are not.

So if harry says his family are not racists it couldn’t have be a racist comment

jet

03-12-2023, 12:10 AM

It's either infantalising, by suggesting their mummywives made all the decisions for them, or suggesting the women are bitches for causing and encouraging the rift.

Meghan obviously played a part in causing and encouraging thr rift but remember that Kate tried to bring the brothers together at Prince Philips funeral.

arista

03-12-2023, 12:11 AM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-95ae615c-44e9-4522-aa1e-9a04e9b20d1e.jpeg

Oliver_W

03-12-2023, 12:12 AM

arista

03-12-2023, 12:13 AM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a88591ab-d05f-46d2-ab79-90404a2ef8c9.jpeg

arista

03-12-2023, 12:15 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/12/02/20/78509009-0-image-a-23_1701549923210.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12818383/Harry-Meghan-excluded-high-society-wedding-childhood-friend-Hugh-Grosvenor-William-Kate-invited-latest-sign-Royal-rift-two-brothers-revealed-groom-Archies-godfather.html

arista

03-12-2023, 12:16 AM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-41e81ea5-19e6-42af-9a78-e2edbf32da88.jpeg

Mystic Mock

03-12-2023, 04:45 AM

It's either infantalising, by suggesting their mummywives made all the decisions for them, or suggesting the women are bitches for causing and encouraging the rift.

They are the common accusations flung at them.

And look maybe they are to blame for Harry & William's falling out, but if we're going to go with Harry's words, then he at the very least has had issues with William for awhile.

Mystic Mock

03-12-2023, 04:48 AM

I have.
We have a few generations of mixed race in our family.
My daughter’s partner is mixed race.
I don’t think it’s any different wondering how the babies will look, hair, eyes, who they resemble etc.:shrug:

Fair enough.

I suppose it depends on how it's being said I suppose.

It's just I've personally never heard of this kind of conversation before, so to me it is a bit odd.

Mystic Mock

03-12-2023, 04:52 AM

The thing the haters seem to be deliberately misunderstanding is what actually happened. There were no wonderings about the skin colour of the baby. There were CONCERNS.

You have to be a certain kind of stupid to not understand why that IS racist.

Well we know that the Royal Family in this country traditionally don't have many mixed race children in it's lineage, so it is probably a culture shock to some of them.

Not that having concerns about the skin colour would make it okay in any walk of life tbf, but I'm guessing that's where the two individuals in question might've stumbled onto such a minefield.

bots

03-12-2023, 05:46 AM

The only people that are making anything of this is the media, trying to make a story

Zizu

03-12-2023, 07:27 AM

The only people that are making anything of this is the media, trying to make a story

If the comments WERE made and it is entirely feasible then it IS a story .. a massive one as well

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rusticgal

03-12-2023, 09:27 AM

If the comments WERE made and it is entirely feasible then it IS a story .. a massive one as well

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You will never know what happened...Meghan quoted words that made it sound Racist in the interview with Oprah...the Royals claimed 'recollections may vary'. Harry denied it was a Racist comment.

Believe the Royals and Harry...or believe Meghan who is known for her untruths.

Zizu

03-12-2023, 10:13 AM

You will never know what happened...Meghan quoted words that made it sound Racist in the interview with Oprah...the Royals claimed 'recollections may vary'. Harry denied it was a Racist comment.

Believe the Royals and Harry...or believe Meghan who is known for her untruths.

Harry said he felt that it wasn’t said in a racially way that . In effect, confirming it was said .. and it’s understandable to protect the family’s name

The meaning behind the comment is open to translation as we have shown in this very thread

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rusticgal

03-12-2023, 10:17 AM

Harry said he felt that it wasn’t said in a racially way that . In effect, confirming it was said .. and it’s understandable to protect the family’s name

The meaning behind the comment is open to translation as we have shown in this very thread

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Well Harry was part of the conversation...he has said it was not said in a Racial way...end of story.

Zizu

03-12-2023, 10:35 AM

Well Harry was part of the conversation...he has said it was not said in a Racial way...end of story.

Why ?

That’s his take and it’s probably biased for so many possible reasons ..

If we were all sat round talking in a similar situation.. and someone said that .. I guarantee that there would be some very questioning looks from the others .

Remember that wasn’t a normal situation and they are far from normal people . Meghan was completely outnumbered .

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jet

03-12-2023, 02:28 PM

Well we know that the Royal Family in this country traditionally don't have many mixed race children in it's lineage,

They do actually. King George 3rd's wife Charlotte was mixed race, directly descended from a Black branch of the Portuguese royal house. They had 15 children.

Zizu

03-12-2023, 02:31 PM

They do actually. King George 3rd's wife Charlotte was mixed race, directly descended from a Black branch of the Portuguese royal house. They had 15 children.

Interesting

What col…. Oh wait .

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jet

03-12-2023, 02:50 PM

Fair enough.

I suppose it depends on how it's being said I suppose.

It's just I've personally never heard of this kind of conversation before, so to me it is a bit odd.

I know quite a few different race couples and they all wondered what skin tone their babies would have. There is nothing odd about it, it's perfectly normal and no different from wondering what colour eyes or hair etc, as others have already said.

Livia

03-12-2023, 03:13 PM

They do actually. King George 3rd's wife Charlotte was mixed race, directly descended from a Black branch of the Portuguese royal house. They had 15 children.

Any ancestor of Queen Charlotte who may have been black would have lived at least 15 generations - or about 300 years - before she was born. And there is much conjecture among historians whether or not the claims she had a black ancestor are true.

jet

03-12-2023, 03:52 PM

Any ancestor of Queen Charlotte who may have been black would have lived at least 15 generations - or about 300 years - before she was born. And there is much conjecture among historians whether or not the claims she had a black ancestor are true.

An interesting article about this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/12/race-monarchy
Was this Britain's first black queen?

Zizu

03-12-2023, 04:02 PM

I know quite a few different race couples and they all wondered what skin tone their babies would have. There is nothing odd about it, it's perfectly normal and no different from wondering what colour eyes or hair etc, as others have already said.

Your scenario/s are entirely different to the toxic one we’re discussing though

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Glenn.

03-12-2023, 05:41 PM

Your scenario/s are entirely different to the toxic one we’re discussing though

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It’s like he’s deliberately missing out the bit where they were concerned.

rusticgal

03-12-2023, 05:50 PM

It’s like he’s deliberately missing out the bit where they were concerned.

Well the conversation was with Harry…if anyone had said they were “concerned about the colour of Archie’s skin”…Harry would have addressed it…he has never claimed the conversation was Racial in fact he has denied it….it was only Meghan that implied it was racial and she wasn’t even there…pick the bones out of that.

Zizu

03-12-2023, 06:07 PM

Well the conversation was with Harry…if anyone had said they were “concerned about the colour of Archie’s skin”…Harry would have addressed it…he has never claimed the conversation was Racial in fact he has denied it….it was only Meghan that implied it was racial and she wasn’t even there…pick the bones out of that.

Harry would naturally defend his family when he realised the size of storm brewing.

He could have even been pressurised in some way or other

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rusticgal

03-12-2023, 06:19 PM

Harry would naturally defend his family when he realised the size of storm brewing.

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He has done nothing but slag them off since he left the fold :smug:

Oliver_W

03-12-2023, 06:46 PM

Your scenario/s are entirely different to the toxic one we’re discussing though

It’s like he’s deliberately missing out the bit where they were concerned.

Where was it said that concern was expressed?

jet

03-12-2023, 08:09 PM

Harry would naturally defend his family when he realised the size of storm brewing.

He could have even been pressurised in some way or other

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He didn't defend them when the storm was brewing, he let it all happen and it was a whole 2 years later when doing his interviews for 'Spare' that he said they weren't racist.
He would naturally defend his family? Jeez, as Rusti said, he was slagging them off continuously during those 2 years. :notimpressed:

bots

03-12-2023, 08:33 PM

The onus is on Harry to clear it all up, but he won't because he seems to want his dad to squirm. Which is ****ed up from whatever angle you view it

jet

03-12-2023, 08:33 PM

That doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING she utters is a mistruth or a lie ..

I can definitely imagine that sentence being uttered by someone at the palace

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I don’t believe for a moment that any senior members of the Royal family made any racist remarks (when in all their years they have been under relentless scrutiny and have never displayed even a hint of racism - quite the contrary!) - and the late Queen Elizabeth stated that ‘recollections may vary’ - a diplomatic and kindly way of saying, amidst all the resulting furore, that Charles’s daughter - in - law was making a mountain out of a molehill.
Yet you prefer to believe Meghan’s version when she told 17 lies in the Oprah interview (and an additional 15 exaggerations) in her proven toxic quest to damage the Monarchy.
Which scenario is the most likely?

But yeah, I don’t know why I bother.
If Meghan herself now admitted she lied, you would say she was pressured into it by the Royal family, much like you said about Harry when he stated that, being part of that family, he knows they aren’t racist.

Zizu

03-12-2023, 08:46 PM

I don’t believe for a moment that any senior members of the Royal family made any racist remarks (when in all their years they have been under relentless scrutiny and have never displayed even a hint of racism - quite the contrary!) - and the late Queen Elizabeth stated that ‘recollections may vary’ - a diplomatic and kindly way of saying, amidst all the resulting furore, that Charles’s daughter - in - law was making a mountain out of a molehill.
Yet you prefer to believe Meghan’s version when she told 17 lies in the Oprah interview (and an additional 15 exaggerations) in her proven toxic quest to damage the Monarchy.
Which scenario is the most likely?

But yeah, I don’t know why I bother.
If Meghan herself now admitted she lied, you would say she was pressured into it by the Royal family, much like you said about Harry when he stated that, being part of that family, he knows they aren’t racist.

You are making out the Royals are an upstanding family of angels when history shows they are far from it .. there are gaffs going back decades in the public domain just imagine what they’re like behind closed doors

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jet

03-12-2023, 08:59 PM

You are making out the Royals are an upstanding family of angels when history shows they are far from it .. there are gaffs going back decades in the public domain just imagine what they’re like behind closed doors

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I'm making out no such thing. They are fallible human beings like the rest of us - if we were under such continuous scrutiny few of us would fare any better.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Monarchy is racist - but you seem to really want them to be proved as such. Why?

Zizu

03-12-2023, 09:35 PM

I'm making out no such thing. They are fallible human beings like the rest of us - if we were under such continuous scrutiny few of us would fare any better.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Monarchy is racist - but you seem to really want them to be proved as such. Why?

The most notorious of the Prince’s comments was made in 1986 during his first and only state visit to China. Philip met with British university students who were studying Mandarin in Xi’an, telling one of them: “By the time you go back home you’ll have slitty eyes.”
The student, 21-year-old Simon Kirby, explained that the UK students didn’t live with their Chinese counterparts. Philip continued: “So [the Chinese] don’t want to mix with the barbarians.” A comment made in Australia in 2002 to an Indigenous Australian entrepreneur came a close scandalous second. Philip asked: “Do you still throw spears at each other?”

Philip once asked Lord Taylor of Warwick: ‘And what exotic part of the world do you come from?’ That’s because Lord Taylor is black.

When he once visited an electronics factory in Scotland and came across a “messy fuse box”, he exclaimed it looked ‘as though it was put in by an Indian’.”

The late Queen Liz had, for a good period of time, a household ban on hiring staff of colour, making herself exempt from racial equality laws. Due to applied pressures she conceded to employ some as menial servants.

The Queen's chief financial manager told civil servants that "it was not, in fact, the practice to appoint coloured immigrants or foreigners" to clerical roles, but they were allowed to be hired as domestic servants.

Even superficial changes, such as renaming the empire honours awards to make them less offensive, she refused to do.

The perception of the Queen as a harmless, benevolent older woman, hid the insidious racism of the monarchy, both past and present.

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Zizu

03-12-2023, 09:53 PM

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thesheriff443

03-12-2023, 10:20 PM

Oliver_W

03-12-2023, 10:26 PM

when she told 17 lies in the Oprah interview (and an additional 15 exaggerations)

Are they random numbers? Or they verified fact-checks?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231203/41788af98cb90dc4793ace4d03b35f1c.jpg
What's that picture meant to prove?

Zizu

03-12-2023, 11:12 PM

Unfortunately jet you can’t reason with zizu he has shown in other threads, once he gets something in his head it takes over

We all know by now that harry and Meghan not only twisted the truth but blatantly told lies to fit their own agendas

They have made themselves a laughing stock around the world

It’s true I am impulsive/compulsive

Apologies

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jet

04-12-2023, 12:50 AM

The most notorious of the Prince’s comments was made in 1986 during his first and only state visit to China. Philip met with British university students who were studying Mandarin in Xi’an, telling one of them: “By the time you go back home you’ll have slitty eyes.”
The student, 21-year-old Simon Kirby, explained that the UK students didn’t live with their Chinese counterparts. Philip continued: “So [the Chinese] don’t want to mix with the barbarians.” A comment made in Australia in 2002 to an Indigenous Australian entrepreneur came a close scandalous second. Philip asked: “Do you still throw spears at each other?”

Philip once asked Lord Taylor of Warwick: ‘And what exotic part of the world do you come from?’ That’s because Lord Taylor is black.

When he once visited an electronics factory in Scotland and came across a “messy fuse box”, he exclaimed it looked ‘as though it was put in by an Indian’.”

The late Queen Liz had, for a good period of time, a household ban on hiring staff of colour, making herself exempt from racial equality laws. Due to applied pressures she conceded to employ some as menial servants.

The Queen's chief financial manager told civil servants that "it was not, in fact, the practice to appoint coloured immigrants or foreigners" to clerical roles, but they were allowed to be hired as domestic servants.

Even superficial changes, such as renaming the empire honours awards to make them less offensive, she refused to do.

The perception of the Queen as a harmless, benevolent older woman, hid the insidious racism of the monarchy, both past and present.

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You are harking back to a completely different time and generation when people thought nothing of enjoying programmes like ‘the black and white minstrel show’, and comedies like ‘Till death us to part’ and ‘love thy neighbour’ which were full of iffy jokes. It didn’t mean they were necessarily racist.

Harry and Meghan issued a statement soon after the Oprah interview saying that neither Prince Philip nor the Queen had anything to do with the comments they were complaining about.

Have a look at these 2 sites:
https://www.royal.uk/queen-elizabeth-ii-and-the-commonwealth#:~:text=As%20Head%20of%20the%20Common wealth,geographical%20regions%2C%20religions%20and %20cultures.

https://www.princestrustglobal.org/ (Charles’s lifelong passion)

When Charles was the Prince of Wales he got flack for saying that when he became KIng, he didn’t want to be the ‘defender of the faith’ (Christian) but a defender of all faiths.

Royals must be totally crap at being racists. :hee:

Taking heed of what sheriff said about there is no reasoning with you, this is my last attempt to put my points across to you on this subject.
We do agree on other things, so see you around! :wavey:

Zizu

04-12-2023, 12:59 AM

You are harking back to a completely different time and generation when people thought nothing of enjoying programmes like ‘the black and white minstrel show’, and comedies like ‘Till death us to part’ and ‘love thy neighbour’ which were full of iffy jokes. It didn’t mean they were necessarily racist.

Harry and Meghan issued a statement soon after the Oprah interview saying that neither Prince Philip nor the Queen had anything to do with the comments they were complaining about.

Have a look at these 2 sites:
https://www.royal.uk/queen-elizabeth-ii-and-the-commonwealth#:~:text=As%20Head%20of%20the%20Common wealth,geographical%20regions%2C%20religions%20and %20cultures.

https://www.princestrustglobal.org/ (Charles’s lifelong passion)

When Charles was the Prince of Wales he got flack for saying that when he became KIng, he didn’t want to be the ‘defender of the faith’ (Christian) but a defender of all faiths.

Royals must be totally crap at being racists. :hee:

Taking heed of what sheriff said about there is no reasoning with you, this is my last attempt to put my points across to you on this subject.
We do agree on other things, so see you around! :wavey:

It’s all good .. we all have our differing views on a variety of issues.

Other than Di and Harry I’ve no time for the royals and never will have

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