Rochdale Bi Election :Thurs. 29th Feb. Winner George Galloway MP

[arista]

ByElection.


https://news.sky.com/story/sir-tony-lloyd-labour-mp-for-rochdale-dies-aged-73-13046240

[The MP for Rochdale, who served as a
politician across Greater Manchester
for over 40 years, had been receiving
treatment for blood cancer.

But in January, he said it had turned into
an aggressive and untreatable form
of leukaemia, and he was leaving the hospital
to "spend the time I have left with my family".

Despite his illness, Sir Tony ended his
message by reassuring his constituents his
office would remain open to ensure they
were still supported.]

[joeysteele]

Sad news.
Long serving MP.
R.I.P..

[arista]

[Rochdale by-election: Candidates list

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68250468

It Includes George Galloway - Workers Party of Britain]

One of them of the 11
Azhar Ali - Labour

Has Apologised for his Tweet on Israel.
which he deleted.


He claimed Israel let the attack happen on the 7th

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-candidate-wrong-to-say-israel-allowed-7-october-attack-but-will-still-stand-in-by-election-13069105

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/10/21/81108659-13069671-image-a-67_1707600957699.jpg


[Vice-Chairman Craig Tracey said:
'The fact that Sir Keir's candidate for Rochdale
is spreading these bizarre and offensive
anti-Israel conspiracy theories shows
that for all his bluster,
he's failed to change his party.

'These are the ramblings of an internet crank,
not someone who aspires to be
a Member of Parliament.'


Last night Mr Ali issued a statement
to The Mail on Sunday, saying:
'I apologise unreservedly
to the Jewish community for my comments
which were deeply offensive,
ignorant, and false.

Hamas's horrific terror attack was the
responsibility of Hamas alone,
and they are still holding hostages
who must be released.

October 7 was the greatest loss of Jewish
life in a single day since the Holocaust,
and Jews in the UK and across the
world are living in fear of rising anti-Semitism.

I will urgently apologise to Jewish leaders
for my inexcusable comments.

'The Labour Party has changed unrecognizable
under Keir Starmer's leadership – he has my
full support in delivering the change Britain needs.'

Mr Ali made his initial remarks
at a meeting of the Lancashire Labour Party
soon after the attacks,
making the astonishing claim that
the Israeli government had removed
its border security to give the
Hamas terrorists free rein.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13069671/Outrage-Labour-candidate-claims-Israel-deliberately-allowed-1-400-citizens-massacred-October-7-order-green-light-invade-Gaza.html

[bots]

that sort of candidate will lose labour the election

[arista]

that sort of candidate will lose labour the election


Yes,
Many are saying that.

[joeysteele]

My goodness
A tightened up procedure to select candidates and then they pick this dubious at best one.

What a mess.

Rochdale deserves better, Labour have taken the voters of Rochdale for granted for way too long

[arista]

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1756487311351534077

[arista]

11 Candidates

George Galloway : Workers Party
Simon Danczuk : Reform Party
Paul Ellison : Conservative Party
Ian Donaldson : LibDem Party
Azhar Ali : Labour Party
Guy Otten : Green Party


Mark Coleman Ind
David Tully Ind
Michael Howarth Ind
William Howarth Ind
Ravin Subortna Loony

[DemRed]

I won't be voting for any of them.

[bots]

this is a bi election, which would normally attract the best of the best from all political sides, to try and snatch the win ...... and look at the cast of characters on this one :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact he shared these disgusting conspiracy theories with labour members and none reported it

What does that say about Labour and anti-Semitism in 2024?

[arista]

Labour has Now Withdrawn support


for Ali

All Media


https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-rishi-sunak-general-election-keir-starmer-12593360

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/10/21/81108659-13069671-image-a-67_1707600957699.jpg


[Vice-Chairman Craig Tracey said:
'The fact that Sir Keir's candidate for Rochdale
is spreading these bizarre and offensive
anti-Israel conspiracy theories shows
that for all his bluster,
he's failed to change his party.

'These are the ramblings of an internet crank,
not someone who aspires to be
a Member of Parliament.'


Last night Mr Ali issued a statement
to The Mail on Sunday, saying:
'I apologise unreservedly
to the Jewish community for my comments
which were deeply offensive,
ignorant, and false.

Hamas's horrific terror attack was the
responsibility of Hamas alone,
and they are still holding hostages
who must be released.

October 7 was the greatest loss of Jewish
life in a single day since the Holocaust,
and Jews in the UK and across the
world are living in fear of rising anti-Semitism.

I will urgently apologise to Jewish leaders
for my inexcusable comments.

'The Labour Party has changed unrecognizable
under Keir Starmer's leadership – he has my
full support in delivering the change Britain needs.'

Mr Ali made his initial remarks
at a meeting of the Lancashire Labour Party
soon after the attacks,
making the astonishing claim that
the Israeli government had removed
its border security to give the
Hamas terrorists free rein.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13069671/Outrage-Labour-candidate-claims-Israel-deliberately-allowed-1-400-citizens-massacred-October-7-order-green-light-invade-Gaza.html


Update
Labour Party now no longer backs him

[bots]

they are only doing it because there was a public outcry, how many others will get in at the next election. I'm not even saying the tories will be any better, i am sure they will have a few nutters in their ranks too

[arista]

they are only doing it because there was a public outcry, how many others will get in at the next election. I'm not even saying the tories will be any better, i am sure they will have a few nutters in their ranks too


Yes, no one wants Ali
now

[bots]

Labour says it has “withdrawn support” for Rochdale by-election candidate Azhar Ali following his comments about Israel.

The BBC understands Mr Ali has been suspended from the Labour Party pending an investigation.

Labour said the decision was taken after "new information about further comments" made by Mr Ali came to light.

It is too late for Labour to replace Mr Ali as its candidate, the party said.

Mr Ali is alleged to have told a Labour party meeting that Israel had "allowed" the deadly attack by Hamas gunmen on 7 October.

Labour has faced intense pressure since the remarks surfaced, which have been condemned by both party members and political rivals.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68280098

[arista]

[It is too late for Labour to replace
Mr Ali as its candidate, the party said.]


Amazing.

[bots]

i don't know if this means he cant stand or if he still can as an independent

he stands but as an independent if elected

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-85b6bd47-3a91-4a55-8704-e0326dc942df.png


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b5999c77-0590-43c1-a440-9a5469eca41c.png

[joeysteele]

Good that he has been swiftly suspended from the Party.
Hope he still doesn't win in Rochdale, let it go Lib Dem until the general election.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-20c84c6d-1dee-4f6f-b18b-7c31e567cc89.png

[arista]

Labour are Pathetic on this Ali

Release the New Recording of him

It is Far worse, so let's bloody have it.


Also The Media should give George Gallaway an interview

Why not
he is the Workers party.


BBC spent a whole day there on Monday &
completely ignored him.
Something that is wrong

[joeysteele]

Labour are Pathetic on this Ali

Release the New Recording of him

It is Far worse, so let's bloody have it.


Also The Media should give George Gallaway an interview

Why not
he is the Workers party.


BBC spent a whole day there on Monday &
completely ignored him.
Something that is wrong



Yes they should make the full recording known

Far from being pathetic, action has been rightly taken within 2 days .
How many days and weeks did the Cons try to protect and save dubious financial issue MPs, also even sexual predators before getting rid?
Hypocritical Sunak trying to make a meal of this one.

How this Ali man was EVER selected to be Labour's candidate in Rochdale is the real disgrace.
Hopefully he loses in Rochdale.

Why hear from Galloway, have the long suffering voters not suffered enough politically from having extreme politicians pushed into their living rooms
Galloway likely holds far worse views than this Ali, as to Israel
There's many other candidates in Rochdale were not hearing from, never mind Galloway.

[bots]

They have been trying to cover up the goings on in Rochdale for decades, and obviously still are, so I wouldn't hold my breath expecting any clarity from any political party. The whole thing stinks

[arista]

"Why hear from Galloway"


He has a lot to say.


Some time ago on another election
he was on a Bus
with GBnewsHD Live


You can learn a lot from him.


The BBC should interview him
not ban him.

If it goes wrong Cut the Interview

[arista]

Live Debate on Radio 5
on this Crisis with Ali.

[arista]

Labour Lord Mann
speaking on SkyNewsHD
wants Starmer to say
the truth.

He is the one man talking sense


Starmer is to speak on this Ali fella
later today

[Livia]

Exactly the same comments made by Azhar Ali have been made on this forum.

[joeysteele]

"Why hear from Galloway"


He has a lot to say.


Some time ago on another election
he was on a Bus
with GBnewsHD Live


You can learn a lot from him.


The BBC should interview him
not ban him.

If it goes wrong Cut the Interview


Well you're not wrong there.
Galloway always has a lot to say.
Unfortunately.

[bots]

Sir Keir Starmer has insisted he took "decisive action" over comments made by Rochdale by-election candidate Azhar Ali about Israel and Jewish people.

Labour has been criticised for initially standing by Mr Ali after it emerged he claimed Israel had "allowed" the 7 October attacks by Hamas.

On Monday the party said it was withdrawing support for him after further remarks came to light.

The Labour leader said this was a "tough" but "necessary" decision.

Speaking on a visit to Wellingborough, Sir Keir said: "Further information came to light yesterday calling for decisive action, so I took decisive action.

"It is a huge thing to withdraw support for a Labour candidate during the course of a by-election."

He added: "But when I say the Labour Party has changed under my leadership I mean it."

----------------------------------------

Only after a public outcry, and they still haven't said what the candidate said to get the immediate action

[arista]

"Only after a public outcry, and they still haven't said
what the candidate said to get the immediate action"

Yes, he also was asked who do they vote for
now Ali is not a Labour man etc.

He said look at the candidates?

What does that mean?

I would Laugh if George Galloway
Won this Bi-Election.

[joeysteele]

Well it's always, immaterial of party only after an issue is made of things that action gets taken.
I consider within 48 hours pretty quick and decisive action.

I'm furious as a member of Labour that this candidate was ever selected.
Until anything comes to light, it's unlikely any action would be taken against anyone of any political Oart by the hierarchy of ALL political Parties .

I say again, at least many days, or even a week or weeks didn't pass like the way the Cons tried to protect and ride through, those with dubious financial dealings, bullying, breaking the ministerial code and even sexual predators.

What a mess for the MP Tony Lloyds seat after his death though .
Just ensure all candidates are now vetted and looked into before they become official candidates .

Labour had that waste of space too in Sheffield Hallam.
You have to learn from previous awful selection of a candidate.

[bots]

it's obviously not just a problem with labour. Candidates across the board are dire and there seems to be zero vetting

[arista]

Sod the Sad BBC


Ch4HDnews gave George Galloway a Brief Interview

Then they reported in the Labour Sewer of Hate.


They also spoke to Former Labour MP
now Reform Party Simon Danczuk

Election this Thursday 29 Feb

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – The reason Azhar Ali felt able to suggest at a Labour Party meeting that
Israel was complicit in the October 7 pogrom was that he knew he had a
receptive audience for these anti-Semitic slurs.

The fact that no one present appears to have challenged him is deeply
troubling. If Sir Keir Starmer is serious about confronting anti-Semitism within
Labour, he should immediately suspend all party officials who were present, and
thoroughly investigate that branch.

If anti-Semitic attitudes are found to be rife, only mass expulsions will convince
the country that Sir Keir is fit to be prime minister.

Jeremy Crick
Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire

[joeysteele]

Another problem is the accusations of anti-Semitism where it's not really anti-Semitism.
Or should be deemed as so.

It can be offensive and can be wrong to say some things and require rightful criticism and actions taken

However, I have no time or liking for PM Netanyahu of Israel.
I see him more as a danger to any kind of peaceful possibilities in the Middle East.

I think he's failing most Israeli citizens.

So I now equally cannot support his policies in this war against Hamas.
By the way he is executing it.
Way too many even children and babies have been slaughtered in this action by his orders of his government in Israel.

That view of mine is NOT in any way anti-Semitic.
No way, although there's some on here would likely fire that at me
As anti-Semitism is being used as to any criticism of.those in power in Israel too
Which is nonsense, sorry but it is.

I'm a firm believer in a Palestinian state being secured
Plus a firm believer and supporter of Israel to exist securely and in peace in the area too.

It's depressing there are terrorist organisations across the Middle East, which not only thteaten stability in the Middle East but in the wider World too.

Israel has had since it's creation, hostility from other Nations in the area.
That is shocking.
They have to be certain of their own security.
Despite having to fight many from all sides.

However it is not anti-Semitic to support the Palestinians too
They too should have the right to a secure independent Country too.

Really though, I said to my family once Netanyahu was back as PM in Israel.
I said watch now for more major conflict because I believe myself, rightly or wrongly he thrives on it.

He is now moving more and more away from the allies he has, namely the USA.
He is someone I could never trust at all.

The Israelis and Israel warrant far better than him as their leader.
However too, the Palestinians do need to help expose those of Hamas and help rid Palestine of Hamas.

I'm not anti Palestinian saying that.
I'm also not anti-Semitic criticising Netanyahu and his government's actions too.

[bots]

it's certainly not antsemitic to question and denounce the loss of innocent life. It is antisemitic to speak violently against an entirety of people. The west is very careful to only call out Hamas for their actions, they should extend the same courtesy to the jewish people

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGU6lJtXcAAVv5M?format=jpg&name=small

[joeysteele]

Why would that be considered by you for me arista ?

A phrase I consider offensive being depicted as being shouted out by a man I find to be mostly grossly offensive.

Frankly I'm not impressed one bit that you've connected my name to that awful caption.

[bots]

\it just shows how bad politics is when one guy gets disowned by the party and the alternative is probably worse

[arista]

Why would that be considered by you for me arista ?

A phrase I consider offensive being depicted as being shouted out by a man I find to be mostly grossly offensive.

Frankly I'm not impressed one bit that you've connected my name to that awful caption.


Yes a Dark Joke

Your name now removed

[joeysteele]

Yes a Dark Joke

Your name now removed

Thank you arista.
I appreciate that very much
That is really good of you
All my best to you.

[arista]

Lisa Nandy MP
was on BBC1HD Laura
she said for Labour Voters
"Not to Vote"?

No Lisa they can vote for George Galloway

You have not solved the Labour Problem.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/A105/production/_107212214_8aaaffba-5470-4459-ae99-38b125a37863.jpg.webp

[bots]

byelections are ideal for protest votes, so people can comfortably elect an idiot and then boot them out again in a few months time

[arista]

We find out this Thursday


BBC2 is not able to do an extra Politics Live 12:15PM
on Friday due to Live sports, being on.

[joeysteele]

As a Labour party member, I'd encourage voters to vote LibDem on Thursday.

Leave the candidates of an extreme nature out in the cold

[arista]

As a Labour party member, I'd encourage voters to vote LibDem on Thursday.

Leave the candidates of an extreme nature out in the cold


The Last Two
BiElectrions


LibDems Failed


So they are not wanted.

[Oliver_W]

Exactly the same comments made by Azhar Ali have been made on this forum.

"I suppose it is a shame what happened on 7 Oct, BUT ........."

[Livia]

"I suppose it is a shame what happened on 7 Oct, BUT ........."freedom

Yes, I've heard that a lot. And lots More besides... But the one that sickened me most was:
"they let their lapse in security be known so Hamas would attack innocent Jews, giving them the excuse to go into Gaza". I paraphrase... But that was the gist.

[arista]

George Galloway MP

Good on GBnewsHD
staying Live.
The Election Station


SkyNewsHD
and GBnewsHD

BBC is dipping into it
but then goes back to World News Desk
which is wrong.


Full Result around 1AM or 2AM

[arista]

https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/1763330905014186070


Good on SkyNewsHD
Jon Craig
working hard all night at the Bi-Election

At this time
George Galloway is in the lead

[arista]

11 Candidates

George Galloway : Workers Party
Simon Danczuk : Reform Party
Paul Ellison : Conservative Party
Ian Donaldson : LibDem Party
Azhar Ali : Labour Party
Guy Otten : Green Party


Mark Coleman Ind
David Tully Ind
Michael Howarth Ind
William Howarth Ind
Ravin Subortna Loony



A reporter from a Newspaper
has found out, Disgraced Azhar Ali
will not be on stage.


Also the Green Party
has disowned their member Guy Otten
who dissed muslims

[arista]

39.7 Turnout.


SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Police have arrested someone
after a Reform staff is threatened
with death.


Thats Fair enough


SkyNewsHD

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHi73KOW4AAJgmK?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

LBC and Radio 5

Have it now on the Radio

Both Free Online

[arista]

Joey
This is All Labours Fault

that George Galloway has Won tonight.


I do not support him
But I Respect the Winner

[arista]

Independent David Tully

Is coming 2nd.


Beating
LibDem
Conservatives

SkyNewsHD

[arista]

It appears George Galloway
is now ready.


His Lady maybe with him on stage
he gave her a kiss

[arista]

Winner George just spoke with the runner-up tully

[arista]

12,335 went to the Winner George Galloway


He is speaking about Starmer
Attacking him.

[arista]

Police have removed a loud (Stop The Oil)
objecting woman.

[arista]

He thanked David Tully, (Indy)
who came 2nd


Who hopes to work with him.

[arista]

George Galloway
Has given SkyNewsHD the first interview.

[arista]

George Galloway (WPB) 12,335
David Tully (Indy) 6,638
Paul Ellison (Conservative) 3,731
Azhar Ali (Disgraced Labour) 2,402
Iain Donaldson (LibDem) 2,164
Simon Danczuk (Reform)1,968

[joeysteele]

What a shambles.

Labour shouldn't have ever selected Ali.

However how the voters in Rochdale with a choice of another 10 candidates has voted for the most extreme of the lot is both disappointing and worrying.

A bad day for parliament again that this creep is back as an MP again.

[Zizu]

I checked to see if it was April Fool’s Day ..

The last time I heard or saw this guy he was crawling around on the floor , licking up milk


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[bots]

What a shambles.

Labour shouldn't have ever selected Ali.

However how the voters in Rochdale with a choice of another 10 candidates has voted for the most extreme of the lot is both disappointing and worrying.

A bad day for parliament again that this creep is back as an MP again.

if labour cant select someone in rochdale, how are they going to manage the 600+ other seats at the GE :laugh: The other parties have exactly the same problem, and it's much worse these days because divisive figures have been emboldened to stand

[MTVN]

What the hell, I didn't even know he was running :joker:

I like Galloway tbf, he's a great character

[MTVN]

Isn't it all a bit pointless though really a few months out from a general election

[bots]

Isn't it all a bit pointless though really a few months out from a general election

everyone is busy saying it's disaster for this or that party. It's not. It was a perfect storm of circumstances in an area that has been controversial for years

[Oliver_W]

Well he'll be grinning like the cat who's got the cream.

[Cherie]

Well he'll be grinning like the cat who's got the cream.

:fist: I was coming in to make the cat joke

[Oliver_W]

:fist: I was coming in to make the cat joke

I'm sure you could come up with another one, if you're feline up to it.

[MTVN]

everyone is busy saying it's disaster for this or that party. It's not. It was a perfect storm of circumstances in an area that has been controversial for years

Yeah that's very true

[Cherie]

I'm sure you could come up with another one, if you're feline up to it.

That is the purrfect answer :laugh:

[joeysteele]

He's not very original

When he defeated Oona King of Labour in 2005.
His line was, Mr Blair this is for Iraq

Now here it's Mr Starmer this is for Gaza.

I'm stunned the voters of Rochdale chose him out of all the candidates.
Okay the Labour one was disowned by the Party
As was the Green candidate by their Party too.

Honestly, I'd have rather the Cons won than Galloway.
How the Lib Dems did so badly is surprising.
They held this seat for ages.

Then again a lot of ugly controversy surrounded Cyril Smith.

I guess PMQs will get worse ow if he catches Speaker Hoyle's eye to ask questions.

Really it's a general election needed now, and right now.
No matter who may win it.

[Cherie]

It is some sort of protest vote against the main parties I guess

[Crimson Dynamo]

It is some sort of protest vote against the main parties I guess

Its a vote against Jews is what is really is

[arista]

And he stated
he will Attack Starmer. (the Fox)


Not Sunak (The Wolf)


He uses Malcolm X
speech on TV news a lot.

[Oliver_W]

And he stated
he will Attack Starmer. (the Fox)


Not Sunak (The Wolf)


He uses Malcolm X
speech on TV news a lot.

Gosh, so he's not only Culturally Appropiating the stories of Uncle Remus, but he's robbing Malcolm X's grave too?

He's being very problematic :nono:

[arista]

Gosh, so he's not only Culturally Appropiating the stories of Uncle Remus, but he's robbing Malcolm X's grave too?

He's being very problematic :nono:


He Used Malcolm X
on SkyNewsHD just under an hour ago.

[arista]

Starmer is the Fox

Galloway keeps stating.

[smudgie]

.

A cat with any intelligence would never chase a fox.

[joeysteele]

.

A cat with any intelligence would never chase a fox.

:joker: good one smudgie :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That’s the new member of parliament for Rochdale embracing Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh .

Nothing going on here folks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHk9eRLWUAAIHjg?format=jpg&name=small

[Livia]

Chilling...

[bots]

i would rather people like Galloway are out in plain sight, that way he and his associates can be watched. Give him the rope to hang himself in other words

[Crimson Dynamo]

Turnout 40%.


80% of votes cast by post.....

[arista]

That’s the new member of parliament for Rochdale embracing Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh .

Nothing going on here folks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHk9eRLWUAAIHjg?format=jpg&name=small


That years ago
before Oct the 7th

Galloway with the leader of Hamas,
Ismail Haniyeh, in 2009.
Pic: Reuters


On this Sky News Page about George
https://news.sky.com/story/who-is-george-galloway-the-new-mp-for-rochdale-13083126

[Gusto Brunt]

Chilling...

Especially when he made no mention of the constituency he'd been elected in. :rolleyes:

[arista]

Especially when he made no mention of the constituency he'd been elected in. :rolleyes:


He did on SkyNewsHD
that he is going to get the Hospital open again.
And his new Cabinet
will include the runner up Tully a independent

[Gusto Brunt]

He did on SkyNewsHD
that he is going to get the Hospital open again.
And his new Cabinet
will include the runner up Tully a independent

Yeah but his first words were 'this is for Gaza'.

Unless he meant this is for Gazza. Maybe he had a bet with him.

But it's highly probable someone told him, hey, you were elected in the UK. Say something about the place here, YOUR NEW CONSTITUENCY.

[arista]

Yeah but his first words were 'this is for Gaza'.

Unless he meant this is for Gazza. Maybe he had a bet with him.

But it's highly probable someone told him, hey, you were elected in the UK. Say something about the place here, YOUR NEW CONSTITUENCY.



Yes Gaza
is his thing


And Today Loads around the UK
thanked him as their first MP for
the UK with a legit Muslim Voice.

Ref: AM Time Radio5/ LBC/ SkyNewsHD

But he also will deal with their lack
of an A&E hospital.


And
Loads elected George
to tell Labour and Conservatives to Piss OFF

[arista]

Ch5HDnews 5PM-6PM on now

claims after 5:30PM

George Galloway will speak live
to them.

[arista]

LIVE NOW

on Ch5HD

[arista]

George Galloway (WPB) 12,335
David Tully (Indy) 6,638
Paul Ellison (Conservative) 3,731
Azhar Ali (Disgraced Labour) 2,402
Iain Donaldson (LibDem) 2,164
Simon Danczuk (Reform)1,968



He is saying some Independents can also beat Labour

[arista]

George Now Live on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

He does not like Sunak

LIVE


David Davis will take him to his seat
in Parliament on Monday morning.
He told the skynews reporter


What a Great interview Live

[Cherie]

I had no idea he was backed by Nick Griffin :umm2:

[arista]

I had no idea he was backed by Nick Griffin :umm2:


George Galloway Hates Nick.


He knows none of this,



That's Just little Sunak trying to hit back at George.

[Oliver_W]

George Galloway Hates Nick.


He knows none of this,



That's Just little Sunak trying to hit back at George.

Game of cat and mouse?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nick Griffin posted on X

If you follow me in #Rochdale, get out and vote for George Galloway today. He's not perfect, but it's the best way by far to stick two fingers up to the rotten political elite and their fake news media cronies.

[bots]

George Galloway Hates Nick.


He knows none of this,



That's Just little Sunak trying to hit back at George.

good to see you siding with a complete idiot

[UserSince2005]

I knew he was bi! Congrats on coming out georgie boy

[arista]

good to see you siding with a complete idiot

Not Siding


Just reporting what was stated
from SkyNewsHD
who gave him a Live interview
just after Ch5HDnews


On Monday Parliament
may hiss him.

[arista]

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Reaction is a bit ott imo. Galloway has always had a demographic of support hence he's been elected as an MP so many times. He's been consistent his whole career and people might find him objectionable but he never shies away from a debate and is happy to engage with anyone.

Even still though, this never would have happened if Labour had fielded a proper candidate so that's on them.

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[joeysteele]

Actually it's our electoral system here too which is at fault.
I think postal votes go out too early.

However too, the system is if a candidate steps down, or has to, or even dies.
The Party cannot replace that candidate with another once ballot papers are ready with names on.

I think the ballot paper only needs the Party names on it then a change of Candidate could be done.
On polling day have in the booths the names of candidates and Party's displayed.

Plus I think since selection of candidates often comes down to last 2 in the constituencies.
Have the candidate with a second .
Who if a candidate has to drop out, the second becomes the candidate.

Of course for me, change to PR our electoral system.
This one is outdated and becoming not fit for purpose or fully representative government anymore too.

Azhar Ali was respected, by Jewish and Muslim communities alike.
He hadn't seeming put a foot wrong
Even Louise Ellman, a great lady who returned to Labour after Starmer made the changes on anti-Semitism.
She thought Ali the ideal candidate too.

Then he spouted his rubbish
Had to be dropped..
However then Labour nor the Greens who had the same problem with their candidate.
Could not at that time field a new candidate.

Imagine what Con hard-line supporters would be screaming if Labour had continued to leave Ali as the official Labour candidate.
They'd be screaming hysterically from the rooftops as to what a disgrace that was.
They'd be right too.

[bots]

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but that's just silly. The tories would be the least likely to be elected in Rochdale under any circumstances and labour told everyone not to vote for their representative because they had dropped them. So how could it be a crushing defeat for either party when labour basically didn't even field a candidate :laugh:

[joeysteele]

but that's just silly. The tories would be the least likely to be elected in Rochdale under any circumstances and labour told everyone not to vote for their representative because they had dropped them. So how could it be a crushing defeat for either party when labour basically didn't even field a candidate :laugh:

Totally agree with that bots.

[arista]

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Watched it Live Uncut


That reporter at the end
should have said Loudly
Thank you George for giving me your time

[arista]

Conservative came 3rd


Better than sad LibDems
below the Disgraced Labour fella Ali


George Galloway (WPB) 12,335
David Tully (Indy) 6,638
Paul Ellison (Conservative) 3,731
Azhar Ali (Disgraced Labour) 2,402
Iain Donaldson (LibDem) 2,164
Simon Danczuk (Reform)1,968

[MTVN]

but that's just silly. The tories would be the least likely to be elected in Rochdale under any circumstances and labour told everyone not to vote for their representative because they had dropped them. So how could it be a crushing defeat for either party when labour basically didn't even field a candidate :laugh:

That may be but still 12,000 people came out and voted for Galloway. There were 11 candidates there and he got nearly 40% of the vote on a fairly standard turnout for a by election. That's for a candidate who makes a big point of sticking two fingers up to the main parties so it's not a result to be ignored.

I for one welcome Mr Galloways return to Westminster. A one off politician and you don't get many like him these days. You look at most politicians today and most of them are almost clones of each other. There'll be numerous other Rishi Sunaks or Keir Starmers in British politics over the next 50 years but there won't be any more George Galloways. Arista appreciates this I feel.

[bots]

That may be but still 12,000 people came out and voted for Galloway. There were 11 candidates there and he got nearly 40% of the vote on a fairly standard turnout for a by election. That's for a candidate who makes a big point of sticking two fingers up to the main parties so it's not a result to be ignored.

I for one welcome Mr Galloways return to Westminster. A one off politician and you don't get many like him these days. You look at most politicians today and most of them are almost clones of each other. There'll be numerous other Rishi Sunaks or Keir Starmers in British politics over the next 50 years but there won't be any more George Galloways. Arista appreciates this I feel.

he is an abominable man. I have known him the entirety of his political career. Maybe you and Arista would like someone similar to Hitler as an mp too? after all he wouldn't be a clone of Sunak or Starmer :laugh:

[Livia]

That may be but still 12,000 people came out and voted for Galloway. There were 11 candidates there and he got nearly 40% of the vote on a fairly standard turnout for a by election. That's for a candidate who makes a big point of sticking two fingers up to the main parties so it's not a result to be ignored.

I for one welcome Mr Galloways return to Westminster. A one off politician and you don't get many like him these days. You look at most politicians today and most of them are almost clones of each other. There'll be numerous other Rishi Sunaks or Keir Starmers in British politics over the next 50 years but there won't be any more George Galloways. Arista appreciates this I feel.

Then there's all the postal votes that came from, for instance, one bedroom flats with 8 people registered to vote there. And the incidents of intimidation to other candidates, their staff and families and at polling stations. And to think we oversee elections in other countries. It's a sad indictment of the Electoral Commission and of the terrible apathy of the electorate in general. The only saving grace for me is that there will be general election this year. Let's hope we wake up before then.

[arista]

he is an abominable man. I have known him the entirety of his political career. Maybe you and Arista would like someone similar to Hitler as an mp too? after all he wouldn't be a clone of Sunak or Starmer :laugh:



Keep Hitler
out of this, please.


It will make a change
in Parliament and Starmer is his Target.

This is all Starmer's fault

He was on UK TV backing his Ali fella

[MTVN]

he is an abominable man. I have known him the entirety of his political career. Maybe you and Arista would like someone similar to Hitler as an mp too? after all he wouldn't be a clone of Sunak or Starmer :laugh:

Yes he has been around a long time and held onto his convictions throughout yet he's also friendly with people across the political spectrum. Not to mention he is a unionist who gives the SNP just as hard a time as the Tories and Labour. All things to respect.

Then there's all the postal votes that came from, for instance, one bedroom flats with 8 people registered to vote there. And the incidents of intimidation to other candidates, their staff and families and at polling stations. And to think we oversee elections in other countries. It's a sad indictment of the Electoral Commission and of the terrible apathy of the electorate in general. The only saving grace for me is that there will be general election this year. Let's hope we wake up before then.

Whilst some of that may be true I don't think it can explain the scale of his victory

[Livia]

It terrifies me to think this will be replicated in other places. I don't think it's over-dramatic to say that if this is repeated and more like Galloway are elected this will be just another country where Jews aren't safe.

[joeysteele]

I have never liked Galloway.
I think elections have fallen to an even greater low now with his election win.

Parliament is now the much worse off with him and his views in it
(I couldn't bring myself to call him a member of it).

I agree with Livia as to him and agree totally with bots that Galloway is an abominable individual.

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https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1763968491252793493

C'mon he is pretty funny!

[arista]

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1763968491252793493

C'mon he is pretty funny!




Yes good one

[bots]

i don't find the terrorist supporter funny in the least

[DemRed]

Conservative came 3rd


Better than sad LibDems
below the Disgraced Labour fella Ali


George Galloway (WPB) 12,335
David Tully (Indy) 6,638
Paul Ellison (Conservative) 3,731
Azhar Ali (Disgraced Labour) 2,402
Iain Donaldson (LibDem) 2,164
Simon Danczuk (Reform)1,968

Interesting that they had the opportunity to vote Reform but didn't.

[MTVN]

Interesting that they had the opportunity to vote Reform but didn't.

Could their performance be anything to do with the fact he's an ex Labour MP who was disgraced for sexting a 17 year old? Baffling candidacy tbh

[Oliver_W]

Could their performance be anything to do with the fact he's an ex Labour MP who was disgraced for sexting a 17 year old? Baffling candidacy tbh

Jeez, so that's three candidates who've disgraced themselves? Labour+Green and Reform?

Rochdale politicians are effed up...

[arista]

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[arista]

Conservative Sir Peter Bottomley & Corbyn
will escort George Galloway
to his Parliament seat today

David Davis MP
has pulled out.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13153831/George-Galloway-sworn-Rochdale-MP-today-flanked-old-ally-Jeremy-Corbyn-amid-fears-pro-Palestinian-agitator-fuel-simmering-Gaza-tensions-return-Commons.html

[Oliver_W]

I've been thinking about certain politicians' response to this result, and I think it borders on contemptuous for the Rochdale electorate.

It's all very well wondering what it might mean for their party, if it might be extrapolatable to the upcoming general election. It's also understandable to talk about how to might reflect on feelings of antisemitism.

But to outright call it alarming, and to suggest Galloway shouldn't even be an MP? He won by quite a margin, so that's potentially a lot of people they're pissing off.

Even if it was a vote to "keep the others out", it's still people's democratic voices they're shouting over.

[arista]

Yes around 2:30PM

TV news will show him taking his seat.

It is all Legit

[user104658]

I've been thinking about certain politicians' response to this result, and I think it borders on contemptuous for the Rochdale electorate.

It's all very well wondering what it might mean for their party, if it might be extrapolatable to the upcoming general election. It's also understandable to talk about how to might reflect on feelings of antisemitism.

But to outright call it alarming, and to suggest Galloway shouldn't even be an MP? He won by quite a margin, so that's potentially a lot of people they're pissing off.

Even if it was a vote to "keep the others out", it's still people's democratic voices they're shouting over.

I'm inclined to agree, full democracy either works or it doesn't. I'm happy for people to explore the idea that it simply doesn't and maybe there are actually better options - for example, I'm low key an advocate for semi-meritocracy where there are criteria that need to be met in order to run at all (so long as that criteria allows for a diverse range of candidates) - however when we have the system we have, coming along and saying "Yes we say you can vote but listen... you did the voting WRONG!!" is a complete farce.

[arista]

George has now been Sworn in.

He has no hat on, for a change.


Not Corbyn
it was an Alba Party member with him.

[arista]

Now was Live Outside Parliament.


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

A long talk to all the press


But TV news left him.

[Gusto Brunt]

He always said he wore a hat to cover up huge scars on his head. :rolleyes:

Unless he had make up on his head (no hat allowed today), I didn't see any scars. :rolleyes:

[Ammi]

I'm inclined to agree, full democracy either works or it doesn't. I'm happy for people to explore the idea that it simply doesn't and maybe there are actually better options - for example, I'm low key an advocate for semi-meritocracy where there are criteria that need to be met in order to run at all (so long as that criteria allows for a diverse range of candidates) - however when we have the system we have, coming along and saying "Yes we say you can vote but listen... you did the voting WRONG!!" is a complete farce.

…but also, surely it’s a mess/UK politics in general when ‘full democracy’ is being questioned as under threat etc…by a PM who wasn’t democratically elected…

[arista]

In the General Election
George may take Angela Raynor's seat
with one of his team.

That will be so funny

[Gusto Brunt]

In the General Election
George may take Angela Raynor's seat
with one of his team.

That will be so funny

:hehe:

[joeysteele]

The election when it comes was going to be bad enough with Labour and the Cons stirring divisions in constituencies.
Plus lies at each other.

Now with this vile Galloway whipping up hatred and division.
This election is probably going to be a very dangerous and frightening one for MPs of all Parties and their campaign teams .
Galloway is the most despicable of the low.
A living nightmare to politics.

[arista]

The election when it comes was going to be bad enough with Labour and the Cons stirring divisions in constituencies.
Plus lies at each other.

Now with this vile Galloway whipping up hatred and division.
This election is probably going to be a very dangerous and frightening one for MPs of all Parties and their campaign teams .
Galloway is the most despicable of the low.
A living nightmare to politics.


Sure Joey

But On Weds PMQ's George gets a Question


And Attacking Labour seats with other members of his team
Is Legit.

[bots]

The real issue with the byelection was that the major parties were in an awful state with their local candidates being unelectable. To then say that democracy had failed is a bit of a stretch to say the least

The moral of the story is that they all need to put forward better candidates

[arista]

The real issue with the byelection was that the major parties were in an awful state with their local candidates being unelectable. To then say that democracy had failed is a bit of a stretch to say the least

The moral of the story is that they all need to put forward better candidates


Yes Starmers Crew Failed

[Oliver_W]

The real issue with the byelection was that the major parties were in an awful state with their local candidates being unelectable. To then say that democracy had failed is a bit of a stretch to say the least

The moral of the story is that they all need to put forward better candidates

To be fair, I doubt that a lot of the people who voted for Galloway would have been deterred by what Azhar Ali said. His words were the usual guff you could hear on recent Saturdays in London, or on Twitter.

They were probably more put off by his "apology" than anything else.

[arista]

He was Live on Parliament Channel

Not many in there

He is Having good Go at the Councils



He stated he would use his boots
to give them (Labour and Conservative) a big kicking

[arista]

The Full 8mins speech
ignore the short BBC

Click the below that link


https://twitter.com/iliad1orig/status/1767587553471791140

[UserSince2005]

So he didnt even make 6 months?

[joeysteele]

Good riddance to Galloway.

[Mystic Mock]

Kinnock said everything that I feel about Galloway.

[joeysteele]

Kinnock said everything that I feel about Galloway.

Yes he did
He was spot on

[The Slim Reaper]

Kinnock said everything that I feel about Galloway.

Kinnock is no hero to those in the labour movement. Galloway isn't a good man, but neither is Kinnock.

[Mystic Mock]

Kinnock is no hero to those in the labour movement. Galloway isn't a good man, but neither is Kinnock.

Tbh that wouldn't surprise me.

To have been Labour leader in the first place makes me wonder what Kinnock did to get that gig.

The same goes for the Tory leaders.

[The Slim Reaper]

Tbh that wouldn't surprise me.

To have been Labour leader in the first place makes me wonder what Kinnock did to get that gig.

The same goes for the Tory leaders.

That's not really the issue. He betrayed the miners.

Anyone can luck into pretty much any job by being in the right place at the right time. I've seen it too many times to understand how things work.

Kinnock also campaigned against Corbyn, because Jeremy wasn't interested in betraying the miners with him, over 40 years ago.

[Mystic Mock]

That's not really the issue. He betrayed the miners.

Anyone can luck into pretty much any job by being in the right place at the right time. I've seen it too many times to understand how things work.

Kinnock also campaigned against Corbyn, because Jeremy wasn't interested in betraying the miners with him, over 40 years ago.

Well I definitely am on Corbyn's side in the Miners debate.