USA :This Thursday New Nitogen Gas Execution in Alabama

[arista]

[Alabama is preparing to use a new method
of execution: nitrogen gas.
Kenneth Eugene Smith, who survived
the state's previous attempt to put him
to death by lethal injection in 2022,
is scheduled to be put to death
Thursday by nitrogen hypoxia]


[Kenneth Eugene Smith stabbed
Elizabeth Sennett to death in 1998 as a hitman]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12890083/Reverand-sues-Alabama-stop-execution-nitrogen-unsafe.html


Yes its the Law in the USA

Kill the Evil Killer on Thursday

[Oliver_W]

I didn't think they still did execution by gas...

[Ammi]

…so that death penalty all saved the system lots of money, didn’t it…35yrs in prison on death row, concluding in a new method of taking his life…those new methods generally don’t come cheaply…life in the expensive lane…followed by death in the expensive lane…

[user104658]

Even if you do agree with the death sentence, it should be the hubby who ordered the killing in the gas chamber not the hitman? When someone goes on a shooting spree, you don't put the gun in jail.

Not that I'm saying the hitman shouldn't also have gone to jail but the husband is the one who had murderous intent.

[Ammi]

…I didn’t look up the crime I have to say…just the whole US concept of death sentencing…(…for those States who still implement it…)…because effectively a life in prison sentence….and then putting to death after many, many years at a huge cost to the system…it’s so badly thought out….

[bots]

I didn't think they still did execution by gas...

They are also bringing back firing squad. Nobody can ban the sale of nitrogen gas like they can with the chemicals in a lethal injection

[arista]

I didn't think they still did execution by gas...


Hence "New"
in the title

[arista]

Even if you do agree with the death sentence, it should be the hubby who ordered the killing in the gas chamber not the hitman? When someone goes on a shooting spree, you don't put the gun in jail.

Not that I'm saying the hitman shouldn't also have gone to jail but the husband is the one who had murderous intent.

It's just
American legal terms.

[Ninastar]

Super Murican Yaahaw freedom of me but I do believe in the death penalty but only for people who are like genuine sociopaths and enjoy inflicting pain and torture on people (and animals. Don’t care if the aren’t human, animals do not deserve it)

If someone gets the death sentence for killing just one person, I think that’s super extreme. I’m talking about serial killers and pedophiles.

Also it shouldn’t take decades to do the actual death penalty… why keep them alive for so long.

And yeah obvs it has to be 100% guaranteed that the person did it

[Ammi]

Super Murican Yaahaw freedom of me but I do believe in the death penalty but only for people who are like genuine sociopaths and enjoy inflicting pain and torture on people (and animals. Don’t care if the aren’t human, animals do not deserve it)

If someone gets the death sentence for killing just one person, I think that’s super extreme. I’m talking about serial killers and pedophiles.

Also it shouldn’t take decades to do the actual death penalty… why keep them alive for so long.

And yeah obvs it has to be 100% guaranteed that the person did it

…that’s the flaw with the death penalty that some states of the US still implement, though…there are all of the appeals to be exhausted first and each appeals process can take many, many years …so effectively it’s a death sentence after serving a life sentence of 25yrs so of imprisonment…it makes no sense…

[arista]

"so effectively it’s a death sentence after serving a life sentence of 25yrs so of imprisonment…it makes no sense…"

Of course, it makes sense
Lawyers earn Big Cash to halt it.

[Ninastar]

…that’s the flaw with the death penalty that some states of the US still implement, though…there are all of the appeals to be exhausted first and each appeals process can take many, many years …so effectively it’s a death sentence after serving a life sentence of 25yrs so of imprisonment…it makes no sense…

I agree. It is stupid.

[AnnieK]

It's costs tax payers more to implement the death penalty than keeping prisoners locked up for life. I don't agree with the death penalty in any circumstance. I would rather they be kept in prison knowing they had lost their freedom.

[arista]

Executions are the American Way


Do Not Kill a person

[Mystic Mock]

I didn't think they still did execution by gas...

I gas we were both wrong about that.

[arista]

Tomorrow

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/24/17/80416943-0-image-m-4_1706115647711.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12997689/nitrogen-execution-method-alabama-hitman-death.html


The Killer Dies

Justice.

[rusticgal]

Grim….

[joeysteele]

This sounds horrific.

What a Nation the USA is.

[Mystic Mock]

Tomorrow

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/24/17/80416943-0-image-m-4_1706115647711.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12997689/nitrogen-execution-method-alabama-hitman-death.html


The Killer Dies

Justice.

Lovely.

[bots]

he will be unconscious within a couple of seconds, so everything that happens to him after that is irrelevant. I am totally against the death penalty, but all this crap about what happens to his body is just propaganda

[joeysteele]

You can still feel pain when unconscious.
Science has stated that.
So it's not seconds of suffering.

It's why unconscious patients in hospital are still given pain relief medication.

I think this is horrible as an execution process.
Plus as with the electric chair, and lethal injection, there have been errors which prolonged suffering.

Things like this are why I will probably always be against the death penalty.
The USA has some really worrying things about it indeed.
For being a so called world leading civilised nation.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/25/07/80446835-0-image-m-1_1706167061565.jpg

[arista]

You can still feel pain when unconscious.
Science has stated that.
So it's not seconds of suffering.

It's why unconscious patients in hospital are still given pain relief medication.

I think this is horrible as an execution process.
Plus as with the electric chair, and lethal injection, there have been errors which prolonged suffering.

Things like this are why I will probably always be against the death penalty.
The USA has some really worrying things about it indeed.
For being a so called world leading civilised nation.


He should not have committed Murder
it is his fault.

This is America keeping their old ways

[joeysteele]

He should not have committed Murder
it is his fault.

This is America keeping their old ways

Well of course he shouldn't.
Life as to whole life in prison would still for me be the option.
Not that.

I think it's awful, as rusti said grim.

Not what I could support, sorry.

[Mystic Mock]

You can still feel pain when unconscious.
Science has stated that.
So it's not seconds of suffering.

It's why unconscious patients in hospital are still given pain relief medication.

I think this is horrible as an execution process.
Plus as with the electric chair, and lethal injection, there have been errors which prolonged suffering.

Things like this are why I will probably always be against the death penalty.
The USA has some really worrying things about it indeed.
For being a so called world leading civilised nation.

The USA have always liked to talk a big game Joey, but they're really not miles off being like Russia imo.

I mean this is a very barbaric way of killing someone.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/26/01/80487627-0-image-m-12_1706231494600.jpg

[arista]

If he vomits into his mask once the gas has
been released, they will not intervene.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13007595/SCOTUS-denies-Kenneth-Eugene-Smith-execution-nitrogen-gas.html


Good

He is Now DEAD

[Mystic Mock]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/26/01/80487627-0-image-m-12_1706231494600.jpg

Being strapped to the bed makes it feel like a BDSM club.

[arista]

Being strapped to the bed makes it feel like a BDSM club.


Maybe
but it has just ended that Killer
Life.

[joeysteele]

The USA have always liked to talk a big game Joey, but they're really not miles off being like Russia imo.

I mean this is a very barbaric way of killing someone.

Barbaric is the word.

At his trial even the jury advised a life sentence.
The judge overruled that.

No way should he ever have been set free
This sounded really gruesome.

[arista]

His final meal was
Waffle House steak and eggs.

He was an Evil Killer.

The Gas Killing Worked well.

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe
but it has just ended that Killer
Life.

The kiss of death.

[Mystic Mock]

Barbaric is the word.

At his trial even the jury advised a life sentence.
The judge overruled that.

No way should he ever have been set free
This sounded really gruesome.

The judge clearly had a lust for blood.

[user104658]

I'm against the death sentence in general but if it must exist - my question is WHY is it so elaborate? Why do there need to be all these new and "inventive" ways to do it? It feels like perversion really. I mean I know it would be messy but honestly - high powered shotgun to the head = no head. Cost is one shotgun shell and a bucket of soap and water. Certainty of death is 100%, and time taken is INSTANT. Bang, no head. Done.

Why does it need to involve some mad scientist set-up? It's serial killer nonsense.

[bots]

America came up with the electric chair which was pretty inventive. Put a wet sponge on the persons head and then fry them to a crisp :laugh:

Apparently many states have re-introduced firing squad as an option because that is cheap and guaranteed. So if they cant get the drugs, they always have a fall back

[Gusto Brunt]

His final meal was
Waffle House steak and eggs.

He was an Evil Killer.

The Gas Killing Worked well.

I've heard all these do-gooders coming out saying it was a 'disgrace this man suffered.'

Well tell that to the family of the murdered woman.

I only wished he had suffered for much longer.

If only all killers could be got away like that.

[Zizu]

I've heard all these do-gooders coming out saying it was a 'disgrace this man suffered.'

Well tell that to the family of the murdered woman.

I only wished he had suffered for much longer.

If only all killers could be got away like that.


Agreed

It’s all gone pear shaped


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[Livia]

I don't know why they keep coming up with complicated ways of offing these people. Vets can put down a dog quite peacefully, send these people off the same way. Although I think a rope and a long drop would be the cheapest and most effective. Bullets are expensive.

[user104658]

I've heard all these do-gooders coming out saying it was a 'disgrace this man suffered.'

Well tell that to the family of the murdered woman.

I only wished he had suffered for much longer.

If only all killers could be got away like that.

The family of the murdered woman like her hubby who was the one who paid this guy to kill her in the first place?

Like I said early in the thread... I think he deserved a harsher punishment than the hitman. To reiterate: you don't blame the gun, you blame the person who pulled the trigger.

Of course, being a killer-for-hire should also be illegal, but the real pre-meditated murderer is the person hiring the killer IMO.

[Ninastar]

I'm against the death sentence in general but if it must exist - my question is WHY is it so elaborate? Why do there need to be all these new and "inventive" ways to do it? It feels like perversion really. I mean I know it would be messy but honestly - high powered shotgun to the head = no head. Cost is one shotgun shell and a bucket of soap and water. Certainty of death is 100%, and time taken is INSTANT. Bang, no head. Done.

Why does it need to involve some mad scientist set-up? It's serial killer nonsense.

I thought I was ****ed up for wondering the same thing

[bots]

I'm against the death sentence in general but if it must exist - my question is WHY is it so elaborate? Why do there need to be all these new and "inventive" ways to do it? It feels like perversion really. I mean I know it would be messy but honestly - high powered shotgun to the head = no head. Cost is one shotgun shell and a bucket of soap and water. Certainty of death is 100%, and time taken is INSTANT. Bang, no head. Done.

Why does it need to involve some mad scientist set-up? It's serial killer nonsense.

i think they need the killing to be a ritual rather than simply an ending of a life. They invite people in to witness it that all have to behave in a certain way, they invite the person to speak, they wire them up etc etc. Its all ritual. A swift bullet to the back of the head just wouldn't do it

[arista]

He was sick in his mask
but was left to Die.

He Beat and Stabbed that lady he killed
for much longer than his death.

[arista]

"A swift bullet to the back of the head just wouldn't do it"

Yes its far cheaper

[Maru]

Apparently he requested this method...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nitrogen-gas-execution-alabama-kenneth-eugene-smith-attorney-general/

The execution of convicted murderer Kenneth Eugene Smith using nitrogen hypoxia was "textbook," Alabama's attorney general Steve Marshall said in a news conference on Friday.

*
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Smith had requested the method of death after surviving a botched lethal injection in 2022, but his attorneys argued that he was being used as a "test subject," and human rights activists criticized the untried new method.

I'm actually OK with them requesting their own method, and I think this should be allowed (respected even), where possible.

[Ammi]

…all for money as well…the victim’s husband paid each of the three $1000 dollars so that he could collect an insurance policy sum …imagine telling your sons that you arranged to have their mother killed…and then killing yourself …such a sad story and a such a low value placed in every life involved…