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Niamh.
07-03-2024, 09:47 PM
In America? To be blacklisted/labelled racist?

Benjamin
07-03-2024, 09:51 PM
Wasn’t it something to do with Megan and defending piers Morgan?

Niamh.
07-03-2024, 09:53 PM
Wasn’t it something to do with Megan and defending piers Morgan?

No idea.

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Benjamin
07-03-2024, 09:54 PM
No idea.

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Zizu
07-03-2024, 10:09 PM
Wasn’t it something to do with Megan and defending piers Morgan?


That sounds feasible


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UserSince2005
07-03-2024, 10:33 PM
Yeah she was defending piers Morgan about meghan and then made a black cohost cry and then wasn’t sympathetic and so everyone said she was racist for making her cry.

Ray.
07-03-2024, 10:49 PM
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arista
07-03-2024, 10:52 PM
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Thanks for adding
that video C.O.M.

arista
07-03-2024, 10:55 PM
Wasn’t it something to do with Megan and defending piers Morgan?


Yes some time back.

Abra
07-03-2024, 10:57 PM
I think Sharon was within her rights to defend Piers if that was her opinion but the way she handled the situation on the show was terrible. She likes to act like she was fired from the show for voicing her opinion, but it was more likely something to do with the fact that she started shouting and swearing at her co-hosts on a live daytime show.

jones89
07-03-2024, 11:32 PM
She’s friends with Piers, she defended Piers, so OBVIOUSLY she’s racist, i mean it’s 2024 guys

Ammi
08-03-2024, 06:56 AM
I think Sharon was within her rights to defend Piers if that was her opinion but the way she handled the situation on the show was terrible. She likes to act like she was fired from the show for voicing her opinion, but it was more likely something to do with the fact that she started shouting and swearing at her co-hosts on a live daytime show.

…yeah, it wasn’t the defence of Piers as it sparked a discussion…it was that she lost control quite a bit in the discussion so not quite accurate in the way she’s explaining it…even with that, though…I don’t think she should in any way be black listed and the reaction to it and her was very OTT…I mean, when we think how emotional and heated and passionate our Loose Women can get when they feel really personally about topics …they also get very passionate and can ‘lose themselves’ a bit…and that should be allowed for, so long as it’s not their way in every topic and their all time style, etc…obviously in that position a stance of ‘hostility’ or over emotion isn’t acceptable but hmmmmmm, she lost it a bit…it was a one time thing so far as I know and I think it’s all a bit harsh and unforgiving and rejecting of her ….and that’s very sad…we don’t want ‘clone and drone’ panels of current affair presenters, we want real people with real emotions …because those actually reflect the current talking points and society today…

Oliver_W
08-03-2024, 07:53 AM
She basically said or did nothing wrong, but because the other panelist shed Black Woman Tears, Sharon had been erroneously branded racist.

Ammi
08-03-2024, 07:59 AM
She basically said or did nothing wrong, but because the other panelist shed Black Woman Tears, Sharon had been erroneously branded racist.

…that’s not quite accurate to say ‘she basically said…’…I mean it is accurate, but she became very ‘unprofessional’ in that whole context…in a professional context..and there were other layers and it’s important to be accurate because this has had a huge impact on her life, obviously…it was all very emotional and she was very dismissive and quite horrid to the other presenter who got upset and told her to stop crying or some such words, that Sharon should be the one crying…she showed no empathy or understanding for the emotion of others while trying to put forward her own emotions…

Ammi
08-03-2024, 08:02 AM
…I don’t agree with her blacklisting or losing her job etc…but it was all much more layered than ‘she just…’….she did lose control and was very vocally dismissive of any view or emotion etc, other than her own…and that’s all not something that should have been aired on live TV for an audience…well, that’s obviously what the TV company feel, anyway…

Oliver_W
08-03-2024, 08:04 AM
…I don’t agree with her blacklisting or losing her job etc…but it was all much more layered than ‘she just…’….she did lose control and was very vocally dismissive of any view or emotion etc, other than her own…and that’s all not something that should have been aired on live TV for an audience…well, that’s obviously what the TV company feel, anyway…

Oh I do agree it wasn't the most decorous of performances.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2024, 08:05 AM
She’s friends with Piers, she defended Piers, so OBVIOUSLY she’s racist, i mean it’s 2024 guys

:joker:

Ammi
08-03-2024, 08:08 AM
Oh I do agree it wasn't the most decorous of performances.

…for me, I just think that’s quite an issue and contributory to divisiveness of today with things like social media with inaccuracy and misinformation of ‘they just said…’…type things, because it doesn’t create a true and accurate scenario or incident…sorry, I just like accuracy with these things because otherwise it just creates divides and ‘sides’ which I think is really unhelpful at best and dangerous at worst…

bots
08-03-2024, 08:15 AM
i think she said some stuff that came out a bit wrong after the Piers thing. It was more the aftermath rather than the Piers defence.

People forget with all the face lifts, but she is in her 70's and says things without thinking through what they mean

Ammi
08-03-2024, 08:23 AM
i think she said some stuff that came out a bit wrong after the Piers thing. It was more the aftermath rather than the Piers defence.

People forget with all the face lifts, but she is in her 70's and says things without thinking through what they mean

…you should watch the vid on YouTube…I don’t feel that she should have lost her job but she was very cruel and dismissive with the other presenter who was upset and crying…I don’t know if she’s spoken about her part in it all and her actions and words with her colleague that were really quite grim…

Gusto Brunt
08-03-2024, 08:49 AM
Well in the UK, you don't have to be racist to be called a racist.

Especilaly by idiots like LBC's James O'Brien who'll call you a racist just because you don't agree with him on any other issues.

I suspect it's the same in the USA.

bots
08-03-2024, 08:51 AM
…you should watch the vid on YouTube…I don’t feel that she should have lost her job but she was very cruel and dismissive with the other presenter who was upset and crying…I don’t know if she’s spoken about her part in it all and her actions and words with her colleague that were really quite grim…

ive seen the youtube above, and those presenters started going down the path of unconscious bias, which is always the path they choose when they have nothing to back up their assertions

Ammi
08-03-2024, 08:59 AM
ive seen the youtube above, and those presenters started going down the path of unconscious bias, which is always the path they choose when they have nothing to back up their assertions

…that’s not really the thing about how she spoke to her colleague though when she became upset…almost ‘attacking’ her for becoming upset …as I say, that’s a very layered incident and far too inaccurate and misleading to think…’I’m blacklisted because I’m accused of racism…’…

bots
08-03-2024, 09:02 AM
…that’s not really the thing about how she spoke to her colleague though when she became upset…almost ‘attacking’ her for becoming upset …as I say, that’s a very layered incident and far too inaccurate and misleading to think…’I’m blacklisted because I’m accused of racism…’…

Well, most people have empathy and cool it when the person they are talking to gets upset. Sharon aways came across as fake when she showed empathy on the x factor, so i don't think she honestly has any

Ammi
08-03-2024, 09:08 AM
Well, most people have empathy and cool it when the person they are talking to gets upset. Sharon aways came across as fake when she showed empathy on the x factor, so i don't think she honestly has any

…she actively criticised it though and sharply told the other female presenter to stop crying, that she had no right to cry or similar wording…I like Sharon a lot and always have but I won’t make any excuses for that particular thing, she was pretty awful to the female presenter so to say that it was because of her defence of Piers as a good friend…?…is inaccurate….

Niamh.
08-03-2024, 09:16 AM
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wow, poor Sharon, that was bad. It takes guts to make a stand like that though and not bow to the party line to keep yourself in the media

Niamh.
08-03-2024, 09:18 AM
…yeah, it wasn’t the defence of Piers as it sparked a discussion…it was that she lost control quite a bit in the discussion so not quite accurate in the way she’s explaining it…even with that, though…I don’t think she should in any way be black listed and the reaction to it and her was very OTT…I mean, when we think how emotional and heated and passionate our Loose Women can get when they feel really personally about topics …they also get very passionate and can ‘lose themselves’ a bit…and that should be allowed for, so long as it’s not their way in every topic and their all time style, etc…obviously in that position a stance of ‘hostility’ or over emotion isn’t acceptable but hmmmmmm, she lost it a bit…it was a one time thing so far as I know and I think it’s all a bit harsh and unforgiving and rejecting of her ….and that’s very sad…we don’t want ‘clone and drone’ panels of current affair presenters, we want real people with real emotions …because those actually reflect the current talking points and society today…

Absolutely agree!

jet
08-03-2024, 02:04 PM
It seems to be the norm with many nowadays that if you dislike or disbelieve a black person, or a mixed race person, you are automatically a racist. Or if not an out and out racist, then you are displaying unconscious bias. Nothing whatsoever to do with the person’s personality, or actions, or character.
Poor Sharon, having to sit there and listen to her ‘friends’ telling her onscreen in front of America that they know better than her what is really in her mind and heart; that she doesn’t know it, but she has this unconscious bias. What a way to heal divisiveness and bring unity.
No wonder she lost her temper, being bombarded with that guff without any of them being able to produce a shred of evidence of any racism, unconscious or otherwise from her, or Piers either, for that matter. Disgraceful.

Abra
08-03-2024, 03:50 PM
…yeah, it wasn’t the defence of Piers as it sparked a discussion…it was that she lost control quite a bit in the discussion so not quite accurate in the way she’s explaining it…even with that, though…I don’t think she should in any way be black listed and the reaction to it and her was very OTT…I mean, when we think how emotional and heated and passionate our Loose Women can get when they feel really personally about topics …they also get very passionate and can ‘lose themselves’ a bit…and that should be allowed for, so long as it’s not their way in every topic and their all time style, etc…obviously in that position a stance of ‘hostility’ or over emotion isn’t acceptable but hmmmmmm, she lost it a bit…it was a one time thing so far as I know and I think it’s all a bit harsh and unforgiving and rejecting of her ….and that’s very sad…we don’t want ‘clone and drone’ panels of current affair presenters, we want real people with real emotions …because those actually reflect the current talking points and society today…

I totally agree that she has a right to her opinion and blacklisting her is harsh, but I also think that if any of the Loose Women had behaved the way she did (shouting and literally swearing at her co-hosts on live daytime television) I don't think they would have their job there anymore either. There's passionate debate and there's... that. I do understand that she probably felt ambushed and defensive, but if she had handled the situation better there probably would have been a very different outcome.

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:00 PM
I totally agree that she has a right to her opinion and blacklisting her is harsh, but I also think that if any of the Loose Women had behaved the way she did (shouting and literally swearing at her co-hosts on live daytime television) I don't think they would have their job there anymore either. There's passionate debate and there's... that. I do understand that she probably felt ambushed and defensive, but if she had handled the situation better there probably would have been a very different outcome.

….I still don’t know all of the details etc in terms of Sharon leaving the show …I read that she apologised to the other presenter afterwards at some point and has also said that she reflects on it differently now in how she addressed it all…?…and I also read that she made the decision to leave the show, so I’m not sure what the ‘black listing’ thing is….

bots
08-03-2024, 04:04 PM
….I still don’t know all of the details etc in terms of Sharon leaving the show …I read that she apologised to the other presenter afterwards at some point and has also said that she reflects on it differently now in how she addressed it all…?…and I also read that she made the decision to leave the show, so I’m not sure what the ‘black listing’ thing is….

She is not employable in that role in the USA anymore

Cherie
08-03-2024, 04:07 PM
Maybe that is why they are coming back to the UK, I am sure she will be employed here on some channel, and I would back her as she spoke alot of sense, dont think she is a racist and crying on a debating show is hardly professional, it is the equivalent of a toddler tantrum

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:09 PM
She is not employable in that role in the USA anymore

…does she want to be, though…I guess because Sharon isn’t really relaying it all how it happened in terms of accuracy, I’m just going to hold back on all of that …:laugh:…because she’s also said that she’s only doing her little bit in the house because she doesn’t want to spend time away from Ozzie with his Parkinson’s condition …so maybe, she’s not seeking that role or any role atm, she’s focusing on other things…Sharon also does like to say things for controversy/…throw stuff out there… so I don’t know…I’m not going to think that’s accurate unless I feel it is and I’m honestly not sure…I don’t think any of us can say that to be truth tbh…

bots
08-03-2024, 04:09 PM
Sharon is not a nice person, she never has been. I have never liked her

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:12 PM
…anyway, she’s not an Adele fan as a person, either …or James Cordon…

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:18 PM
…I’ve just read that the reason for the return to the UK is also related to Ozzie’s health and condition and the treatments and availability etc here…the UK is just the best place for him to be right now, so not work related…that’s why I’m thinking that’s also the reason why she decided the time was right for her to leave that show and why she isn’t working now…

bots
08-03-2024, 04:18 PM
I think you will find that Adele and Cordon have said or done something to snub her at some point and she didn't like it

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:21 PM
…I guess that Ozzie’s health concerns are a constant for her as well and have been for some time so that creates a more negative demeanor as well, doesn’t it…

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:22 PM
…I like her, I have to say…

bots
08-03-2024, 04:24 PM
…I guess that Ozzie’s health concerns are a constant for her as well and have been for some time so that creates a more negative demeanor as well, doesn’t it…

oh for sure, we are all hostage to what we are going through, but, going back years, the reason Black Sabbath were successful was because she was tough and ruthless back in the day, there were all sorts of stories about her at the time

Ammi
08-03-2024, 04:47 PM
oh for sure, we are all hostage to what we are going through, but, going back years, the reason Black Sabbath were successful was because she was tough and ruthless back in the day, there were all sorts of stories about her at the time

…ahhh, I don’t really know much about back in the day and her Manager days…I only really became aware of her and them as a family from the Osborne series that followed them…and she’s always seemed a hugely protective presence with Ozzie… it I know obviously that she was his manager and as a female in that world at that time, it would I imagine been very difficult also…so I imagine that she had to cultivate a certain ‘ruthlessness’ as well for self preservation and survival etc…?…and obviously she would keep that as part of who she is, also …she seems very much to me as a ‘fighter/scrapper’ to me and as I say, I wonder if that’s a throwback characteristic to being so much in a ‘man’s world’ and her survival and success in it…I don’t know and could be completely wrong but I’m just feeling that ‘they won’t employ me…’…is the fighter in her, when the reality might be that she doesn’t want that employ…she’s in another and different part of her life and her focus being Ozzie…

rusticgal
08-03-2024, 06:15 PM
Well in the UK, you don't have to be racist to be called a racist.

Especilaly by idiots like LBC's James O'Brien who'll call you a racist just because you don't agree with him on any other issues.

I suspect it's the same in the USA.



James O’Brien is such a knob…

Benjamin
08-03-2024, 07:31 PM
…anyway, she’s not an Adele fan as a person, either …or James Cordon…

Good, both are ****ing awful.